*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

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  1. Kam2010

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    Thanks vsb, appreciate it.

    Can you or anyone else correct me if i'm wrong but I read a post can't remeber now which thread it was but the ones made in Austria were same mold or play similar to the pt57a? and the one made in the other place plays like an pt57e??


    Can someone reassure me this racket is worth keeping and I won't miss it.
     
  2. Dave M

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    To the first bit, the "pt57A" is it seems what they now make for their pros who want a pro tour frame. (with some differences)
    the second question about missing it, i think you can answer it best below!
     
  3. Kam2010

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    Good point lol
    I played with it a long time ago and to be honest I think I've improved as a player and this racket may not be as ****e as I once thought it was..
     
  4. pshulam

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    That's an excellent price. Were they purchased from a garage/flea market/thrift/charity sale?

    It's possible to shave or sand it down to size. However, it's not recommended as it will compromise the integrity of the racquet because of changes in angle and width of bevels.
     
  5. pshulam

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    Keep it if you plan to play with it or keep it as a collection.
     
  6. Dave M

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    That may be the case, hey you already own it so give it a whirl, if not drop me an email!

    I have been wondering weather i should look for more of these or just head back towards the vantage bc20, anybody have much time on both?
     
  7. Dave M

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    why not replace the pallet?
     
  8. vsbabolat

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    PT57A=Pro Tour 630. The PT57E=i.Prestige Midplus.
     
  9. Nikae

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    That's what I did, shaved it 1.5 size down, and placed 2 over grips on the bare handle. Now its a little bit lighter, which is good for me since its a bit heavy already.
    Bevels do feel different, but nothing I cant get used to.

    I gotta say one more time, this racket has such a solid feel on contact its unbelievable good!!

    @Pshulam
    He bought it from some guy that buys ~100 rackets for 1-2 euro each, not sure where he gets them from, I think its from Austria.

    @Dave M
    That's not possible with this racket :(
     
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  10. Dave M

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    I'm curious enough to ask, what's the handle made of on yours then?
     
  11. jaydubbs15

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    full grommets?

    I just picked up a Head 630, which feels heavier than my 280. The hoop is really clean on this racquet and I'd like to protect it. I've seen some 280/630's with "full grommets," which provides greater coverage. Does anyone know which grommets with fit the 630 and provide greater protection?

    Thanks!

    Jay
     
  12. Dave M

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    ^^ I believe the prestige MP grommets are the ones you seek.
     
  13. waginen

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    Exactly..every prestige mp grommets will fit.
    But will be 10g heavier and racquet will be more head heavy and swingweight will be increased.
     
  14. Dave M

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    Hi Waginen,
    Is it 10g? I just swapped one of mine for i presume they are radical grommets.be interesting to see a side by side on what difference it has to feel as well as sw.
     
  15. jaydubbs15

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    Thank you Dave M. and Waginen. I certainly don't want to disturb the weight of the racquet that much. Perhaps I'll just use some tape to protect the head. Any other suggestions?
     
  16. waginen

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    Hi Dave,

    Youtek radical grommets - 19g
    Youtek/microgel prestige mp grommets(tk238) - 29g
    Original PT630(tk57) grommets - 33g

    Therefore balance will move towards head heavy for about 1 cm(2-3 points) and swingweight will be increased by about 15 points.

    Ales
     
  17. waginen

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    Where youtek radical grommets weight will match original short pt630 grommets weight(not caps)
     
  18. jaydubbs15

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    Oh, so if I replace the original 630 grommets with the MG Prestige MP grommets then the racquet will be a bit lighter and a bit more head light. This is my first 630 and although I haven't played with it yet, it feels a bit heavier than my 280. So the weight savings will be welcome, albeit just somewhat lighter.
     
  19. waginen

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    Yes, it will be around 4 grams lighter and fraction less head heavy. It is not much, but to me it was quite noticable. I needed to reduced swingweight by about 10 points to what I am used to and this has just done it. I have bought couple of new PT630's with SW around 345. I am used to SW around 330-335 with PT630. Grommet exchange got it to 335. I hope this helps
     
  20. jaydubbs15

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    Yes, thank you!
     
  21. mad dog1

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    hi Ales, do you know the weight for the CAP mp grommets. i need to add weight to my MG Rad MP and thought this might be the way to go instead of adding lead. thanks!
     
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  22. waginen

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    Except radical those are the weights of the cap mp grommets(all prestige are cap grommets). So caps will add 10g to your frame. But I would also counterweight it in the handle to make it more headlight. You can use silicon, lead or install leather grip. MG radical has quite low swingweight and is very light so it can be very well customized.
     
  23. mad dog1

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    ^^ thanks! i prefer leather over the synthetic grips but was also going to add some lead under the leather grip too.
     
  24. sixone90

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    Is the PT630 closer to a Radical or Prestige?
     
  25. waginen

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    Nowhere near Radical. You could say it is close to Prestige(almost identical mold). But still very unique feel. People believe it is because of Twaron used in PT630
     
  26. vsbabolat

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    The Original Radical Tour (Trisys 260) MP, Radical Tour TwinTube 630, and Pro Tour 630/280 all use the exact same mold. Starting with the Ti.Radical MP The Radical from there forward use a different molds. Today's Prestige MP is closer to the Pro Tour 630/280 in mold.
     
  27. JT_2eighty

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    There is another way to make it smaller. The 'pallets' can be replaced. That is the thing that you shaved down, it can actually be removed and if you are able to find replacement pallets in your grip size (2, 3 etc), then the new size fits right in.

    There's a thread somewhere here showing how to do it yourself. Tricky part is finding the "TK 76" pallet in your size. I do believe the newer "TK 82" also fit the racquet as well. The only difference is what they are made out of, so probably weights will vary, etc. Once you find that all you need is a hairdryer and some patience. :)
     
  28. ae695

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    There is even a Yuotube video howto. Anyway I prefer sinking the handle in very hot water rather than the hairdryer. Works better and faster for me. Good luck!!
     
  29. chinese_tennis_guy

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    PT caps/grommets 101

    Hi All,
    Really enjoy this thread. i've got a trek PT630 austria full guard and a chinese 280 partial guard.

    I need help with the caps/grommet thing on the PTs. i think i'd like to get a full guard for my 280.... can't seem to find all the info together for the novice.
    first off does "CAP'd" or "full CAPs" refer to a guard around the whole head?

    so what guards are available to buy, and where can you buy them? i can't seem to find this "iprestige mp xl" guard anywhere... and is that one the most similar to the OEM full guard, which is now unavailable? what are the other options, and what are their weights?

    i'm leaning to get the full guard, as i like how my 630 plays... but i might experiment a bit longer playing with them the way they are a while....
    post reply if appropriate or email james dot ys dot yang @ gmail
    THANKS!!!
    James
     
  30. chinese_tennis_guy

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    PS I'd also like to find out what you experienced PT players like for a setup after your experimentation regarding the bumper guards, strings, and grips. I'm looking for the fast track to a good setup. As far as playing style I am a baseliner with lots of topspin...
    THANKS!
     
  31. stronzzi70

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    VS...
    Still has my HEAD RADICAL TWIN TUBE MP ....good racquet,,,but not sure about good string for it?
     
  32. mad dog1

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    yes

    TW sells them. it's listed as Head Intelligence i.Prestige XL Mid+ Grommet
     
  33. MarrratSafin

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    Hey mate, CAPS=full guard yes. CAPS stands for computer assisted protection system iirc. The LM Prestige MP grommets from TW is CAPS and will fit the PT280/630 perfect. For normal/partial guard, get the LM Radical MP grommets from TW. I recommend LM over Youtek because the material of the older ones are of better quality. CAPS are around 30g, partial 10g less iirc. Definitely put on a leather grip, and the frame seems to work best with a thin poly setup.
     
  34. mad dog1

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    depends...

    i've got the following grommet sets and here are their weights.

    Head MicroGel Radical MP grommet set - 22g
    Head YouTek Radical MP grommet set - 24g
    Head i.Prestige XL MP grommet set - 29g
    Head MicroGel Prestige MP grommet set (CAP) - 34g
     
  35. vsbabolat

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    I'm a natural gut fan......
     
  36. pt630_belgium

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    Hi from Belgium

    Hi guys,


    Here someone from belgium who plays with the PT630 since 15 years:oops:
    I didnt know there where other people than me that like the head PT630 so much:oops:

    I have 2 rackets pt630 "designed in austria" and 1 "made in austria".
    Already played with other midplus rackets from head (prestige, radical,...)
    but it never felt as good as my old pt630:twisted:

    Since years i play with monofilament kirschbaum super smash 1.20 or 1.25, 55-56lbs. Also played with other strings, but this one gives the right feeling.

    Greetzzz
     
  37. freshhh

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    I've the Pyramid Tour 630 (Made in Austria), this is a beast, very stable, spin machine but not easily manoeuvrable if you get pushed around...

    Did you try Kirschbaum Spiky Shark (spin friendly) as well at low tension? I'm curious to know how it compares with Super Smash with this racket...
     
  38. freshhh

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    I should add this is a really low powered racket so you become tired quite quickly. That said this is really a racket like none other with a special feel...

    Btw, I'm also located in Belgium ;-)
     
  39. eman resu

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    Do you think the Pro tour trisys 280 would be a good racquet to extend to 28"? (they have pallets, right?)
     
  40. Matt H.

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    do i count as a partial member?

    i have a pair of youtek pj PT57A's.
     
  41. Long Face

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    Just bought a Pro Tour 280 Designed in Austria. Condition: 8.5/10. Spent $60.

    Used it on court last week. Very good feel. But I really don't want to scratch it any more.
     
  42. Mateo

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    I need info...
    What plays (feels) similar to head PT 630 trek font,
    Head prestige liquidmetal mp or Head prestige Microgel mp
    Thanks
     
  43. waginen

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    none of them....i am sorry
     
  44. Mateo

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    I thought so:-?, that none of them would match up....I have two of PT 630 but they are pretty old now..
    So the best way to get PT 630 (that is somewhat younger than 15y old frame) is to buy PT57A?
     
  45. waginen

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    I think best way is to buy PT630 again...if you like it's retail specs. It is still not a big problem to get them in reasonable condition and much cheaper than PT57A. I have bought around 10 PT630´s last year. Couple of them like new. Check stringforum. Hope this help.
     
  46. waginen

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    Also...the paintjob is so cool:)
     
  47. johnthom

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    Best Way

    What is the best way to hit the forehand with the PT630/280, hit it flat or topspin? eastern or semi-western? Your opinion will be appreciated. :confused:
     
  48. treblings

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    the best way would be to hit it exactly like you normally hit a fh:)
     
  49. johnthom

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    How do you NORMALLY hit your forehand? Why? Does it give you BETTER result?
     
  50. treblings

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    rather old-fashioned with an eastern grip:) learned it in the 70´s
    am able to get a lot of topspin out of it though if the situation asks for it
    i was a bit confused by your former post and probably didn´t understand it correctly. where you suggesting, that one should alter forehand technique depending on the racket one uses?
     

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