*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

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  1. JT_2eighty

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    Very much agreed!

    Personally, I like it either the same tension for mains/crosses, or sometimes I actually up the crosses by 1 pound, so 39/40, or 38/39 worked great. Doing this seemed to help longevity just a bit. When I'd do 39/36, the strings would seem to lose control a lot quicker. I had also read somewhere that tighter crosses elongate the sweetspot more towards the tip, and I tend to hit up there between 10 & 2, rather than right in the middle between 3 & 9. However you prefer should be fine. Tour bite is a stiffer poly, so the tensions below 40 work nicely. I went as low as 31 lbs but control bailed at that point. 37-42 is my sweetspot for full poly tensions.

    Yes, my #2 setup is gut/poly, but I tend to string it between 56/53 and 61/60, depending on what poly and gut I'd use. My favorite setup if cost & time to string were irrelevant would be gut/poly but the cost and time to string pushed me to find a full poly setup. This way with poly I can string without the care required to prevent kinks (not that I'm a careless stringer, but gut does take some extra time and care, while getting more expensive lately). I also find tourbite to provide the 'all-out' control and confidence under pressure that gut/poly slightly lacks. TB 19 is also quite awesome, but longevity of a 1.10 string is short - need to string that one a few pounds higher, and is great for an 'important match' freshly strung.

    The lowest I went with gut/poly was 52/49, but the gut mains made it too powerful and springy. Yet with full poly those tensions can be a lot stiffer in the PT280/630.

    Short version:

    #1) full poly: 37-42 lbs mains, with crosses +1 to -3 lbs based on your preference for feel/sweetspot.

    #2) gut/poly: 56 to 61 lbs mains, with crosses same or down to -3 lbs based on prefs. You can try it lower but I did not like the gut below 56.

    Feel & power obviously are better with gut/poly; Spin is a close race; but pure control is where tourbite shines.
     
  2. rorschack

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    Is the Setup # with gut/poly kind of on the tight side? I don't think I can get the ball across the net with string it that tight for a dense pattern racket.

    When I do gut/poly, it's around 50lb gut / 46lb poly.
     
  3. boinz

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    ^ yeah mine's slightly lower 48/45
     
  4. JT_2eighty

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    I guess it depends on which gut, but especially which poly you use.

    Since I don't like really stiff stringbeds either, I would always choose a soft, thin poly cross. That helps keep it lively enough for me.

    Wilson 17 or VS 17 offered ample power at the tensions I used. Tough Gut 17 & 16L were my overall favorite for price/durability.

    Most polys at or below 1.20mm kept it lively as well. My preferred tension for most gut/poly was 56/53, and a few i tried at 61/60 and with a full swing, had ample power. Another reasoning for my tensions was that since strings take a while to break in the PT630, that stringing higher allowed them to settle in nicely over time, so that even if I went weeks or even months with gut/poly sitting as a backup, it would still play great for a long time after stringing.

    Full poly on the other hand, is one of those 'use it right off the stringer' kind of setups. Gut/poly i guess I prefer to let it settle and break-in a bit first. If you are happy with the 50/46 or 48/45, then by all means stick with it. That's the beauty of this feel-oriented control frame!
     
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    Hey JT_2eighty, can you PM or send me an email via the forum? I got a question. I tried sending you email via the forum but got bounce back.
     
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    So is it blue and black or white and gold? :)
    On Saturday a girl told me it was a cool looking racquet then said that. I'm a lot behind when it comes to what's trending on social media and had no idea what she was talking about. A white and gold PT280 pj? I think not!
     
  7. Mr. Protour280

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    Pro Tour 280 China Vs Austria???

    Hello Pro Tour fans,

    I just recently tracked down and purchased 5 pro tours 280's. Two are made in Austria and three of them say designed in Austria. Is it true that some are made in china? Some of them say barcode label inside and some don't say anything. Now one of them weighs a lot more than the other 4 and that one was made in Austria. Its like the weights are all over the place with them. Does anyone know if their was inconsistency with the pro tours? I have to say that any Head prestiges made today have nothing on these beasts of the past. In my honest opinion youtek and graphene prestige mid pluses are just complete garbage, nothing personal to those of you that love them.
     
  8. derek08844

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    You're joking right?!?! :confused::neutral::???:
    Can't tell if serious or joking! Lol
     
  9. WINZOWAR

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    Joking :) But when she said that white and gold part, I had no idea what she was talking about. My doubles partner had to explain "the dress" to me.
     
  10. derek08844

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    Hahahaha good
     
  11. rorschack

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    I see you have experienced that feeling.

    Now, try the setup below and let us know how you feel.

    String the PT280 full poly (brand of strings don't matter much), 17g or thinner, at 40lbs (main and cross) or something as low as that and report back

    Be amazed with every solid hit. Very addictive feeling.
     
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    Hi. I have a Pro Tour 630 with 5 (4 5/8) grip size. Can I somehow make it 3/8 or 1/2? Here are some pics. This grip consists of 2 grey parts, and I think that they can be removed with that black thing (sorry, dont know how to call it) where a Head logo ang grip size is written. And if they can be removed, is it possible to find similar but thinner with size 3 or 4? And also that black thing is also need to be another? Maybe somebody have some experience in performing such tricks?=) Or maybe there are some photos/videos/ links? Anyway, thank's a lot
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    You will need to buy some head grip pallets in the size (and shape if you want to go with the speed shape) you desire. Then:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=346201
     
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    Send me an email at dradic011 at hotmail.com and I will guide you through the process...
     
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    Are there different playing characteristics between the shadow font version and the treck font version?
     
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    No there is not.
     
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    Hey all! May be a noob question but I have 2 PT280s and was wondering how do you know if they're MIC or MIA? Both say designed in Austria. One says it inside of the throat, the other says it on the outside of the throat.

    Also, browsing through the thread I notice that many of you are stringing with low tensions. I currently play with a full poly hybrid with 17g Poly Tour Spin mains and 17g generic Big Banger ALU Power. I've tried stringing at 42lbs and it felt nice and soft but it's power and precision were not there as many of the threads are attesting.

    I actually string regularly at 55lbs for the poly and find it a lot more manageable. Am I missing something? lol

    Thanks for your input!
     
  19. vsbabolat

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    The one with Designed in Austria in the inside throat is made in China. The one with Designed in Austria on the outside, is there written on the racquet "HEAD Barcode Label Inside"? Post a few photos of the racquets...
     
  20. HRC-E.B.

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    I realized that I still had my old Pro Tour 280, made in Austria, that I purchased in the late 90s and played with for many years. I tried hitting with it last night and, even with old (10+ years) hybrid stringing in it, it still felt fantastic! What a nicely balanced and smooth racket to hit with! I'm going to put fresh strings in it, but I fear that if I start playing with it, I might not want to use anything else anymore. Problem is, the stick is fairly old, and I don't know how much more life I can expect from it? I also don't know how to get a second (or, even better, second and third) similar rackets to start confidently using this as my main stick...?

    A few questions:

    1. For the sake of clarity, this is an Austria-made "Pro Tour 280", with non-cap grommets, the North American model. Is that the same frame as the holy-grail PT57A, despite the lack of cap grommets?

    2. Any idea how much I would have to spend to get a good-to-excellent condition Austrian PT280, in grip size 5 (or 4) to back-up the one I already own?

    3. Lastly, if I understand correctly, if want to put new grommets on my PT280, either the Youtek Radical MP grommets or the iPrestige MP grommets would fit, correct?
     
  21. dr325i

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    1. For the sake of clarity, this is an Austria-made "Pro Tour 280", with non-cap grommets, the North American model. Is that the same frame as the holy-grail PT57A, despite the lack of cap grommets?
    The PT57A is the engineering code for it. H22057Ax. The pro stock version, under many PJs comes lighter and can feel different depending on customization.

    2. Any idea how much I would have to spend to get a good-to-excellent condition Austrian PT280, in grip size 5 (or 4) to back-up the one I already own?
    For some reason the PT280 MIA goes cheaper than the PT630. I'd say a 9/10 can be obtained for $150 or lower.

    3. Lastly, if I understand correctly, if want to put new grommets on my PT280, either the Youtek Radical MP grommets or the iPrestige MP grommets would fit, correct?
    CAPS: MG Prestige MP or iPrestige MP (not a true CAP). Non-cap: MG Radical MP, Ti Radical MP...
     
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    I picked up a Pro Tour 280 Designed in Austria off of the fleabay for $38 plus shipping.

    Can I be a part of the club? :p
     
  23. prestigeww

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    anyone looking to unload some preferably capped 4 1/2 for a reasonable price can send me message :)
     
  24. od_sf

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    Currently own four 630s and three MIC 280s. Absolutely love them, although I do prefer the 630s which are a softer, with more accuracy, control, and a touch less power. The MIC 280s do definitely play stiffer and feel different from the MIA 630s, but they're great sticks too. I've tried many other racquets (including the newer prestige models), and for my game, nothing compares to 630s/280s. They demand good fitness and footwork along with proper stroke mechanics, but if you give them that, they're the best. The feedback from these sticks is ridiculous, you just know instantly after contact with the ball where its going to land. Pinpoint accuracy.

    I use Babolat VS Touch @ 50 lbs in mains, Luxilon ALU Power Soft @ 46 lbs in crosses.
     
  25. sbaniak

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    I love my MIA 630, it seems to be an oddball though. It's 366 grams with caps, but it's around 12 points headlight somehow. I assume it would have to have been quite a bit under spec for that to be the case since (by my idiot calculations) the static weight isn't high enough for it to be simply a lead in the handle deal.
     
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    Question to all pt280 owners regarding grip.. Do the grip sizes feel true to their size? some speculation that for example the 4/12 feels more like 4 /38
    Also if you were to change the grip size by adding a different interchangeable pallet like a tk82, can you retain the existing butt cap?
     
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    Will probably need new butt cap if you go bigger - likely to split if you try and force it on.
     
  28. DJ-

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    Cheers, I would be going down a size, so I guess it would wiggle then if that is the case... didn't want to change butt cap if it is a nice looking one like the hologram type, but if it must be then so be it...
     
  29. dr325i

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    If you're going down the size, I suggest to wrap some tape (electrical or similar) in the buttcap area to "pad" the gap. Otherwise it may be loose and may be making annoying sounds and move around
     
  30. DJ-

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    Thank you Dr, I will keep that in mind. I'm sure there is plenty of good tape without being too heavy and having an anchor effect.

    Pozdrav
     
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    I'm keeping this thread alive.. :)

    Can someone recommend based on personal experience, the best quality / looking non-capped grommets for this masterpiece ?

    Also has anyone exprienced a dead frame, wet noodle yet? or has the graphite opened up become even more flexy :)
     
  32. Tanas

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    In searching I found micro gel radical mp non caps are supposed to fit. Just ordered 2 so I'll let u know how it goes
     
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    Awesome let me know how they fit / look.. I have bought one capped version and one non capped, the non capped one is for the 280, it's the ti.radical mp ones with black head logo on top, i think it's tk113 or something.. the other ones (capped) are of the i .prestige mp xl, tk55 I think is written on them. They had none of the MG radical in stock, I will order some as back up though if they fit and look the part :) I also understand they are the lightest of the grommets... I will see how they turn out after my stringer finishes them.
     
  34. Tanas

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    For the full cap I used liquidmetal prestige mp grommets. With leather makes it a bit heavy
     
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    MG radical fits better IMO. The TiRadical ones are a tad wider and do not flush nicely with the hoop
     
  36. DJ-

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    I did look for those ones after your advice, none in stock and longer wait time, I wanted to get the 280 and 630 sorted soon :) When I put the bumper on the frame to see te fit it appeared to run flush. I will get the mg ones also and observe the difference.
     
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    What are you weighing in ? I am expecting to roughly hit the 350 mark on my capped 630, as I am putting on a tan fairway.
     
  38. Tanas

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    I have 2 630 MIA. One is 351g strung, the other is 372g strung. Both with full caps and Head replacement leather. 351g is a great strung weight for me and I enjoy that frame, and while I look forward to hitting with the other frame for feedback and feel, it is a bit much on the elbow after the 1.5 hour mark.
    I'm going back to non cap and synthetic grip on the 372g frame to see if I can get close to a matched pair.
    I've only tried the Head replacement leather, and I'm thinking there might be lighter and thinner leather options. I ordered a couple Tourna leather grips to check those out.
     
  39. DJ-

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    350grams I feel is perfect, heavier racquets were so the norm back in the day. Modern day tennis seems to emphasize lighter racquets. The heaviest I have used is 355gr mark. You should definitely shed of 16-18grams by changing grips and grommets.

    check this thread out, might give you some ideas.

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...pecs-weight-thickness-into-one-thread.465717/
     
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    Good thread thanks!
     
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    No problem. You got lead on your 372g pt630 ? seems a lot...
     
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    No lead or silicone. I replaced the full caps with mg radical grommets, and they fit nicely. Replaced the leather with Tourna thin perforated grip. I'll weigh it up when I get it back from stringing.
     
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    sounds good! I just recently played with my pt630, 359gr strung with tk57 cap grommets and fairway leather, ra62, flex 57, 336sw, and 32cm balance. I am enjoying the hit I get, slightly heavier than I'm used to, but i I will trial it, great control on shots though with plenty of pop. I will string my pt280 with mg radical grommets and a synthetic grip and check the specs on that.
     
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    With microgel radical mp grommets and thin Tourna synthetic grip and Tourna over grip.....341g, 32 cm balance. Strung with head gravity at 52 main/50 cross. Plays like a dream. The couple changes make a huge difference. I really like this set up.
     
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    How did you find the microgel radical mp grommets, to me they look of a very weak quality, for the price though it's not an issue. Even the stringer was surprised how flimsy they are. One grommet hole was bigger (around the 4 or 5 oclock position) but otherwise fit ok. Should get the 280 soon. The 630 with the caps and leather is a tad heavy, especially for doubles. I do love the fairway leather though, best leather grip handsdown, quality !
     
  47. daniel2015

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    Is it worth to buy a chinese PT280 for u$s150?
    I want to try the PT280 because everyone says its a great frame but I d like "the original feel"... and I dont know if the chinese is a lower quality copy with less twaron or something like that.
    Opinions?
    TY from South America
     
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    IMO for that price you can find 8.5 /10 even 9 / 10 made in Austria versions on the ee bay site. There are plenty of 280's and 630's there. I personally would get them. Nothing beats the construction and feel of the Austrian ones. From what people say on here the Chinese version is way stiffer and different feel.
     
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    Yeah i guess they are kinda flimsy, but I haven't noticed extra plastic loss, just a normal amount. They were tough to finish around 12 o'clock.
     
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    A question for PT630 users. I planed to buy a replacement grommet set for my I.Prestige MP (standard length), but wrongly ordered one for the XL version which is non-cap. I enjoy the weight and balance for my I.Prestige but find my capped PT630 to be a bit heavy. So, can I install the non-cap on my PT630 then? Thx.
     
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