*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

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  1. DJ-

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    Yes you can install them, I have the exact ones. Recently installed capped, non capped, i.prestige xl, microgel radical, e.t.c on both my 630 and 280. The I.prestige ones fit, but are not 100% plush with the hoop, barely noticable! You will remove 10grams in weight with the non capped ones. My capped one is heavy also. Head were pretty consistent with their grommet fit, as long as the 630cm head size is in question, no problem.
     
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  2. mrravioli

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    Thanks, DJ. Really helpful info. My 630 is over 360g with cap, removing 10 would bring it into my spec.
     
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    No problem matey. You can also look at different lighter grips, that will however alter your balance. You sound like you know your ideal specs. Part of the fun is experimenting. I recently bought the 280 and 630, so I had the luxury of doing swaps, testing both with different grommets. The head microgel radical mp are the lightest non cap grommets, but also the worst quality. For a few dollars though, no problem.
    They alll seem to fit well, minor non-effect differences with some grommet holes (diameter), and as I said minor plush issues with some grommets. There is plenty of info here, and good people who will help. Dr325i is well informed.
     
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  4. prestigeww

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    Does anyone know the lightest cap grommets that will fit? I use the MG Prestige MP caps on my pt280's and its fine, but if I could shave a couple grams from the hoop I think I could get it to be just a bit more maneuverable. Mine are both over 370g but have 2 overgrips.
     
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    I think it's been covered here the i.Prestige MP caps are 25 grams, LM prestige MP caps 30 grams
     
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    Finally some pics, Pro tour 630, 359gr strung with tk57 cap grommets and fairway leather, flex 57, 336sw, and 32cm balance.
    Great stick for singles matches, and against heavy hitters, awesome hit.


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  7. PSC85

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    what seems to be the average strung weight for retail PT630? I've been getting into this PT630 craze, and purchased a couple PT57A with newer pj, however the customization done and weight felt somewhat lighter overall for these pro stocks, and as a matter of fact the retail MIA PT630s I use actually feels more solid than the PT57As. Has any of you had similar experience?
     
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    Pro tour 280, 337gr, sw 300, balance 31.5, flex 55, vs team 49lbs, alu power 47lbs.. Loving this stick for doubles, even though the sw is low, still getting plenty of pop and power, volleys are great, serves too. Very buttery smooth feel. When you hit with these sticks you feel as if tennis should be played this way ! My first exp. with gamma grips, loving it.

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  9. BlueB

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    I've never heard if a PT 280 with 300 SW strung... How is that even possible?
     
  10. DJ-

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    Those stats came with my racquet after I got it back from the stringers, they are very good and reliable I doubt it is a misprint, who knows though, I will get it checked again though. Everything feels light, grommets are weak and cheap, and the grip is very light.
     
  11. pt630_belgium

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    Are there different euro pro tours "designed in austria"?

    the lay out is different?
    Someone knows?

    Thanks.


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  12. vsbabolat

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    All Pro Tour 630 with Designed in Austria were manufactured in Austria. Same Layup.
     
  13. pt630_belgium

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    Ok thanks vsbabolat.
    I didnt know there where some small differents between the austrian ones.
     
  14. PSC85

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    I've read somewhere that Pro Tour 630 was designed with help mainly from Muster, but I've also read else where that Muster's own personal frames, while with the same mold, is quite a bit stiffer. Does this mean that he knew already the game gear is supposed to be going to a stiffer racquet trend? Perhaps RA60~61 is the lower limit?
     
  15. vsbabolat

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    The marketing material had Emilio Sanchez and Thomas Muster helping to develop the Pro Tour 630/280. Muster personal frames were stiffer. The original Radical Tour 260/630 was stiffer as well than the Pro Tour 280/630. Both coming from the same exact mould.
     
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    do you know about S.E.1 and S.E.2 frames
    VS, you talk about Musters personal frame being stiffer. i´ve recently come across a pt630 with s.e.1 printed on it. there also seems to be an s.e.2 version.
    do you know more about that?
    thanks
     
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    They are all pt57 molds, I think the s.e.2 is a pt57c, a rare one, I think it is also stiffer, like 66ra... There is even a s.e.3... all same molds different layups...
     
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    Finally got my 280 all ready. All set and done it sits at 374g w/ caps, og, dampener, and a fairway
     
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    What string setup did you use for this heavy beast ?
     
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    Tier1 fw 18g/ PL2 18g @ 50/47 lbs
     
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  21. treblings

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    s.e.3 is real news to me. the s.e.1 seems to play like a normal pt630, only at 13,2 oz strung it´s certainly heavier than normal
     
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    All these versions are news to me also, I only got into the pt630 and 280's this year, and have not looked back. In my quest for them i found loads of info about the different ones, thanks to some veterans such as Vs and Dr325..

    here's an older thread with s.e.3

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/ti-radical-question.353002/
     
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  23. vsbabolat

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    There's the PT57A1, PT57A2, and PT57A3. Then you go to PT57B which is the Radical Tour TwinTube 630
     
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    I have the pt57a in Se 3 to radical paint. Plays unbelievably soft
     
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    thanks for the link:) i missed that in my own search
     
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    what´s the weight of the racquet and balance point?
     
  27. asifallasleep

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    I just bought 2 PT630's Made In Austria frames. Can't wait to get them. What do people love about these frames? I've got a bunch of St Vincent PS85's so I had to add some more history to my collection.
     
  28. Southern maine beachtenis

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    Rook,can I join the group? I have two pt 280s. A third on the way...have played since I was a teenager..4.5 nationals in 92,,, 15 years of New England age division tournies til the 4 knee surgeries started...I have to two PTs ,2 microgel prestiges mids ...a 25 anniversary prestige midplus and an st graphene in the racket bag...can I join?the PTs are strung with full poly at 48 lbs...nothing I can tweak feels like these things
     
  29. asifallasleep

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    Just got mine today and they are in insanely good condition:

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  30. langdon0555

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    Where'd you score those bad boys?

     
  31. asifallasleep

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    i got them on that auction site.
     
  32. langdon0555

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    Nice...

    How did they have them listed on there, or I guess I should say what search query did you use

    I might be interested in picking one up, depending.

     
  33. edelp

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    Super frame... Enjoy
     
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  34. asifallasleep

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    they are very very rare and incredibly hard to find. I think there's one in New Zealand for sale and maybe just 1 PT280 for sale domestically. Just a standard type in the name of the frame search.
     
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    Where would one acquire a PT630 CAP? Haven't had much luck on stringfrm
     
  36. vsbabolat

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    Just use Microgel/YT Prestige MP grommets.
     
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  37. Moonarse

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    Hi guys!

    Been reading this thread for a long time, but never manage to create my own account and participate.

    I'm a proud owner of one PT630 and a couple of PT280, both barcoded, one beeing the heavier (and as i read here sort of rare) one.

    I just bumped into a PT that is the same PJ Style but Green. the guys says it is 345g strung, so it cant be the 630 lite version. Its written on the base of the throat "Made In Austria".

    Is it worth to add it to the team? does it have the twaron on it?? could it be a PT630 with just a diferent PJ?

    Thx for the attention!

    cheers!
     
  38. Moonarse

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    Just discovered that it it the Pro Tour Xlong and the guy customized it by cutting the extra inch. Still worth it? hahahahahahahah
     
  39. mavtop

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    Hi all,

    i'm acquiring an Head Tour 280,

    i searched the web but i only find the Head Tour Pro 280, nothing about a Head Tour 280 only.

    On the image of the racquet there are three labels: On the borders below: Tour series (left) and Contact Beam (right) and on top in the middle: 630, it seems like on the Head pro tour 280.

    It is full cap and the color seems gray.

    First question is:

    I keep it full cap or only grommet and which one ?

    Second question is:

    Someone know something about it, or can tell me a way to verify if it is a Head Pro Tour 280 ? If it is a chinese one or maden in Austria ? Is there a lot of difference from chinese maden ? Which one ?

    I'm a novice, i play 2 or 3 times for week (about 3h each time in double, 1h to warm-up, then games) i can serve, can use forehand and backhand (one hand) but i'm a novice (after 25 year i started again tennis now i'm 45).

    I like slices and topspins (also if i'm beginning with forehand topspin now), i don't mind much about speed, i like and would like to have precision, actually i'm playing with a friend's racquet Head Competition 660 and i love it because i know where the ball will go after i touched it.

    So reading about the 630/280 that would be the same, i choose to buy a 280.

    So now the Third question:

    for my playstyle which of these strings would i use on main and cross ? and which tension on them ?

    If possible they would last for some months or more, i can choose only from this list:

    Head Rip Control multifilament 1,20mm 18g
    Babolat Magic Force (maybe multifilament, it say double filament) 1,35mm 15L (22kg-48lbs/30kg-66lbs)
    Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm 17g (22kg-48lbs/28kg-62lbs)
    Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour + Excel hybrid, side Pro Hurrican Tour 1,25mm 17g (max tension 28kb-62lbs) or 1,30mm 16g (max tension 30kg-66lbs) side Excel 1,30mm 16g (max tension 30kg-66lbs)
    Babolat RPM Blast monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm 17g (22kg-48lbs/28kg-62lbs)
    Tecnifibre ATP HDX Tour (suppose multifilament) 1,35mm 15L (no tension indicated)
    Tecnifibre Black Code monofilament (polyester flex) 1,24mm 17g (no tension indicated)
    Tecnifibre Duramix multifilament 1,35mm 15L (no tension indicated)
    Tecnifibre TGV multifilament 1,25mm 17g (no tension indicated)
    Tecnifibre XR3 multifilament 1,30mm 16g (no tension indicated)
    Tecnifibre X-One Biphase multifilament 1,24mm 17g (no tension indicated)
    Wilson Luxilon Adrenaline monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm (no grams no tension indicated)
    Wilson Luxilon Allu Power (color gray) monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm (no grams no tension indicated)
    Wilson Sensation multifilament 1,30mm 15L (no tension indicated)

    All the strings are 12meters in total, i'm asking how many meters are needed for a raquet usually.

    I don't mind if use one string for main and cross or use two different strings, import is confort, precision, slices and topspins.

    Thanks for any advice
    mavtop
     
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  40. DJ-

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    Posting pics will help identify your racquet easier. Natural gut with a smooth poly works well in these frames. I also feel heavier old school frames work well with synthetic gut. You aren't going to get the same topspin that you will in some modern frames, unless your technique allows you to :)
    Cap grommets are classy, but they also add about 10grams of weight taking your pt280 to 350gr mark or more.
    Chinese pt280's play stiffer,some like them some don't, personal preference. You can't go wrong with Austria!

    The China pt280 should have a made in China printed in throat or even butcap if I recall. Does your racquet have "designed in Austria" written on the side ?
    And also "head barcode label inside" written on frame?
     
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    I will see the racquet on saturday, so only then i will know if it is maden in Austria or a chinese one, for now i have only an image, where i only see the racquet flat, so i can read only head below the grip, costant beam, tour series and 630 all written on the frame.

    I will ask for more photos, then i will post them, i hope to receive them before Saturday

    Do you have any hints on the strings ? Which to use, repeat for now i'm novice, but i love slices, topspins and control the ball (i can do it easily with an Head Competition 660 i tried)

    How i upload images here ? It tell me uploads are not permitted ...

    Maybe i discovered how to do

    this is the image i have

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    Can someone confirm or not that it is an Head Tour Pro 280 ?

    Thanks in advance
    mavtop
     
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    Hard to tell from that picture / lighting, looks like the head pro lite tour XL which is made in Austria.... same mold i believe as pro tour 630 / 280. These are great racquets / molds. Slices, no problems! If you have the money put natural gut in the mains and a smooth poly in crosses. Try Klip legend, VS touch or team, or Wilson natural gut in mains, and kirschbaum max power or alu power in the crosses. The spin with gut/poly is surprisingly great in these racquets...
     
  43. mavtop

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    it has full caps from the image, i read here that a lot don't want them, but just normal grommet on the top of the racquet, is there a why ?

    Balance is 32cm on this racquet right ?

    is there a GUT string in the list below ? if yes which one ? which tension would be using ?

    For the Alu power in crosses you mean Wilson Luxilon Allu Power (color gray) monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm which tension ?
     
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    If it's the 630 head size, you can fit a few different grommets which will make it lighter in the head. Head microgel radical mp grommets (really cheap price) fit easy, Ti radical mp, i.radical, plenty that will fit as long as it is 630 size head.
    I do not know the unstrung balance of that racquet, once you get more pics and identify it it will be easier to search... but it sounds close.

    Natural gut try Babolat VS touch 1.30/16g in the mains
    Smooth poly (co-polyster) in the crosses try LUXILON ALU POWER 16/1.25

    these two strings are available just about everywhere, if it's too pricey experiment with just poly, it's about what you like.

    I usually string mains at 51 or 53, and crosses 1-2 pounds lower so 51/49 or 53/51
     
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    It's is 630 size for sure, the seller confirmed it, and it is barely visible on the inside middle top of the racquet, i suspect that is "630 mid" or something like that.

    I have found the Babolat Vs touch 1,30mm 16g, but it is too pricey for now, more than the racquet price.

    So if i would like to stay with just poly, if i use Alu Power on crosses, which would i use on the main ? Always for tops, slices and control in mind.

    All the strings are 12m (39 feet or 4,44 inches), if i use them for just main or crosses only i will be able to use more time the same string ?

    I suppose 12m is for main and crosses together, right ?

    thanks for your patience with me (i'm really newbie in the world tennis)

    mavtop
     
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    Ok i got more photos of the racquet,

    here they are:

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    now you can tell me if it's a Tour Pro 280 or not ?

    I suppose is it a Chinese one ? right ?

    Do you think is a right price for 20$ ?

    Thanks in advance
    mavtop
     
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    I have never seen one of those before!!!! Tour 280!!! That's NOT China because of the HEAD Barcode Label Inside is written on the racquet. It was manufactured in Austria and finished in the Czech Republic.
     
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    Ok if it is not chinese, a bad racquet would not being.

    But i would like to know if it has similar specs of the 280.

    I will wait for others' answers about it
     
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    I think you may have a special limited edition release there. It is an Austrian for sure as VS said, which Is why I asked does it have head bar code label.
    Can you measure the weight? swing weight and flex?
    40ft (12metres) will be enough for a whole racquet with the same string. If you use it in a hybrid mixture you will still have a half to use.
    Polyester only lasts 8-12hours, gut/poly can last up to 30hours in my opinion. Some poly can last 20hrs. It's up to you start which something cheap and find out what you like. Have a read here on poly hybrids.
     
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    Ok i have the racquet here with me.

    So it seems an Austrian one, also if on the frame is written "HEAD designed in Austria" but not on the side ? While on the side there is "HEAD BAR CODE LABEL INSIDE", then inside there are infos only about tension of the strings, no code i can see.

    This is the racquet
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    This is one side
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    This is the other side
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    This is the Designed in Austria
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    This is the inside label, but no code
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    This is the 630 cm
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    This is the butt cap ? It seems molded, possible ?
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    Grip size i suppose
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    Full cap, but i can't see grommets on the top, but the same plastic coverage, please confirm this
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    I read about the strings that lasts 8-12 hours or up to 30hrs, so each 1-2-3 weeks i need to change the strings ? I play usually 3 days per week 3h each day, so 9hrs about for week, then i will have to change the strings again ? Usually we use 45-60 minutes to warm-up and to try the shots, then we make some matches (almost all in doubles). Repeat i'm a novice so maybe i can use them for more hours, but just to understand how they works.

    For others specs, like swingweight, flex, and the rest, let me know how to measure it.

    If you need more photos let me know.

    Now the questions:

    1) is a real Austrian made ? i suppose yes, the seller has also a Prestige Tour 600 that want to sell me, 40$ for it, it has the label on side HEAD MADE IN AUSTRIA, but i don't know if it is similar to this like specs and frame, let me know and i can buy also it so i will have two of them.

    2) i will need a grip and overgrip ? a grip for sure it is naked.

    3) full cap or not i will decide after i will weigh it, i hope in 1 hour about, but i will like grommet so it will be repaired on the top from accidental shots, hardly i shots on the ground sidely

    4) which strings if i need to change them often ? something cheap ? for now synthetic gut, polyester, or natural gut is the same for me, import is cheap if i need to change them so often

    for now is all, later i will put the infos i can get from it (weight, lenght from top to bottom)

    thanks for now
    mavtop
     

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