*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

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  1. DJ-

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    All these versions are news to me also, I only got into the pt630 and 280's this year, and have not looked back. In my quest for them i found loads of info about the different ones, thanks to some veterans such as Vs and Dr325..

    here's an older thread with s.e.3

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/ti-radical-question.353002/
     
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  2. vsbabolat

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    There's the PT57A1, PT57A2, and PT57A3. Then you go to PT57B which is the Radical Tour TwinTube 630
     
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  3. Crisp

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    I have the pt57a in Se 3 to radical paint. Plays unbelievably soft
     
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  4. treblings

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    thanks for the link:) i missed that in my own search
     
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    what´s the weight of the racquet and balance point?
     
  6. asifallasleep

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    I just bought 2 PT630's Made In Austria frames. Can't wait to get them. What do people love about these frames? I've got a bunch of St Vincent PS85's so I had to add some more history to my collection.
     
  7. Southern maine beachtenis

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    Rook,can I join the group? I have two pt 280s. A third on the way...have played since I was a teenager..4.5 nationals in 92,,, 15 years of New England age division tournies til the 4 knee surgeries started...I have to two PTs ,2 microgel prestiges mids ...a 25 anniversary prestige midplus and an st graphene in the racket bag...can I join?the PTs are strung with full poly at 48 lbs...nothing I can tweak feels like these things
     
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    Just got mine today and they are in insanely good condition:

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  9. langdon0555

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    Where'd you score those bad boys?

     
  10. asifallasleep

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    i got them on that auction site.
     
  11. langdon0555

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    Nice...

    How did they have them listed on there, or I guess I should say what search query did you use

    I might be interested in picking one up, depending.

     
  12. edelp

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    Super frame... Enjoy
     
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  13. asifallasleep

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    they are very very rare and incredibly hard to find. I think there's one in New Zealand for sale and maybe just 1 PT280 for sale domestically. Just a standard type in the name of the frame search.
     
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    Where would one acquire a PT630 CAP? Haven't had much luck on stringfrm
     
  15. vsbabolat

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    Just use Microgel/YT Prestige MP grommets.
     
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    Hi guys!

    Been reading this thread for a long time, but never manage to create my own account and participate.

    I'm a proud owner of one PT630 and a couple of PT280, both barcoded, one beeing the heavier (and as i read here sort of rare) one.

    I just bumped into a PT that is the same PJ Style but Green. the guys says it is 345g strung, so it cant be the 630 lite version. Its written on the base of the throat "Made In Austria".

    Is it worth to add it to the team? does it have the twaron on it?? could it be a PT630 with just a diferent PJ?

    Thx for the attention!

    cheers!
     
  17. Moonarse

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    Just discovered that it it the Pro Tour Xlong and the guy customized it by cutting the extra inch. Still worth it? hahahahahahahah
     
  18. mavtop

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    Hi all,

    i'm acquiring an Head Tour 280,

    i searched the web but i only find the Head Tour Pro 280, nothing about a Head Tour 280 only.

    On the image of the racquet there are three labels: On the borders below: Tour series (left) and Contact Beam (right) and on top in the middle: 630, it seems like on the Head pro tour 280.

    It is full cap and the color seems gray.

    First question is:

    I keep it full cap or only grommet and which one ?

    Second question is:

    Someone know something about it, or can tell me a way to verify if it is a Head Pro Tour 280 ? If it is a chinese one or maden in Austria ? Is there a lot of difference from chinese maden ? Which one ?

    I'm a novice, i play 2 or 3 times for week (about 3h each time in double, 1h to warm-up, then games) i can serve, can use forehand and backhand (one hand) but i'm a novice (after 25 year i started again tennis now i'm 45).

    I like slices and topspins (also if i'm beginning with forehand topspin now), i don't mind much about speed, i like and would like to have precision, actually i'm playing with a friend's racquet Head Competition 660 and i love it because i know where the ball will go after i touched it.

    So reading about the 630/280 that would be the same, i choose to buy a 280.

    So now the Third question:

    for my playstyle which of these strings would i use on main and cross ? and which tension on them ?

    If possible they would last for some months or more, i can choose only from this list:

    Head Rip Control multifilament 1,20mm 18g
    Babolat Magic Force (maybe multifilament, it say double filament) 1,35mm 15L (22kg-48lbs/30kg-66lbs)
    Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm 17g (22kg-48lbs/28kg-62lbs)
    Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour + Excel hybrid, side Pro Hurrican Tour 1,25mm 17g (max tension 28kb-62lbs) or 1,30mm 16g (max tension 30kg-66lbs) side Excel 1,30mm 16g (max tension 30kg-66lbs)
    Babolat RPM Blast monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm 17g (22kg-48lbs/28kg-62lbs)
    Tecnifibre ATP HDX Tour (suppose multifilament) 1,35mm 15L (no tension indicated)
    Tecnifibre Black Code monofilament (polyester flex) 1,24mm 17g (no tension indicated)
    Tecnifibre Duramix multifilament 1,35mm 15L (no tension indicated)
    Tecnifibre TGV multifilament 1,25mm 17g (no tension indicated)
    Tecnifibre XR3 multifilament 1,30mm 16g (no tension indicated)
    Tecnifibre X-One Biphase multifilament 1,24mm 17g (no tension indicated)
    Wilson Luxilon Adrenaline monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm (no grams no tension indicated)
    Wilson Luxilon Allu Power (color gray) monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm (no grams no tension indicated)
    Wilson Sensation multifilament 1,30mm 15L (no tension indicated)

    All the strings are 12meters in total, i'm asking how many meters are needed for a raquet usually.

    I don't mind if use one string for main and cross or use two different strings, import is confort, precision, slices and topspins.

    Thanks for any advice
    mavtop
     
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  19. DJ-

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    Posting pics will help identify your racquet easier. Natural gut with a smooth poly works well in these frames. I also feel heavier old school frames work well with synthetic gut. You aren't going to get the same topspin that you will in some modern frames, unless your technique allows you to :)
    Cap grommets are classy, but they also add about 10grams of weight taking your pt280 to 350gr mark or more.
    Chinese pt280's play stiffer,some like them some don't, personal preference. You can't go wrong with Austria!

    The China pt280 should have a made in China printed in throat or even butcap if I recall. Does your racquet have "designed in Austria" written on the side ?
    And also "head barcode label inside" written on frame?
     
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    I will see the racquet on saturday, so only then i will know if it is maden in Austria or a chinese one, for now i have only an image, where i only see the racquet flat, so i can read only head below the grip, costant beam, tour series and 630 all written on the frame.

    I will ask for more photos, then i will post them, i hope to receive them before Saturday

    Do you have any hints on the strings ? Which to use, repeat for now i'm novice, but i love slices, topspins and control the ball (i can do it easily with an Head Competition 660 i tried)

    How i upload images here ? It tell me uploads are not permitted ...

    Maybe i discovered how to do

    this is the image i have

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    Can someone confirm or not that it is an Head Tour Pro 280 ?

    Thanks in advance
    mavtop
     
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  21. DJ-

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    Hard to tell from that picture / lighting, looks like the head pro lite tour XL which is made in Austria.... same mold i believe as pro tour 630 / 280. These are great racquets / molds. Slices, no problems! If you have the money put natural gut in the mains and a smooth poly in crosses. Try Klip legend, VS touch or team, or Wilson natural gut in mains, and kirschbaum max power or alu power in the crosses. The spin with gut/poly is surprisingly great in these racquets...
     
  22. mavtop

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    it has full caps from the image, i read here that a lot don't want them, but just normal grommet on the top of the racquet, is there a why ?

    Balance is 32cm on this racquet right ?

    is there a GUT string in the list below ? if yes which one ? which tension would be using ?

    For the Alu power in crosses you mean Wilson Luxilon Allu Power (color gray) monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm which tension ?
     
  23. DJ-

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    If it's the 630 head size, you can fit a few different grommets which will make it lighter in the head. Head microgel radical mp grommets (really cheap price) fit easy, Ti radical mp, i.radical, plenty that will fit as long as it is 630 size head.
    I do not know the unstrung balance of that racquet, once you get more pics and identify it it will be easier to search... but it sounds close.

    Natural gut try Babolat VS touch 1.30/16g in the mains
    Smooth poly (co-polyster) in the crosses try LUXILON ALU POWER 16/1.25

    these two strings are available just about everywhere, if it's too pricey experiment with just poly, it's about what you like.

    I usually string mains at 51 or 53, and crosses 1-2 pounds lower so 51/49 or 53/51
     
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    It's is 630 size for sure, the seller confirmed it, and it is barely visible on the inside middle top of the racquet, i suspect that is "630 mid" or something like that.

    I have found the Babolat Vs touch 1,30mm 16g, but it is too pricey for now, more than the racquet price.

    So if i would like to stay with just poly, if i use Alu Power on crosses, which would i use on the main ? Always for tops, slices and control in mind.

    All the strings are 12m (39 feet or 4,44 inches), if i use them for just main or crosses only i will be able to use more time the same string ?

    I suppose 12m is for main and crosses together, right ?

    thanks for your patience with me (i'm really newbie in the world tennis)

    mavtop
     
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    Ok i got more photos of the racquet,

    here they are:

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    now you can tell me if it's a Tour Pro 280 or not ?

    I suppose is it a Chinese one ? right ?

    Do you think is a right price for 20$ ?

    Thanks in advance
    mavtop
     
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  26. vsbabolat

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    I have never seen one of those before!!!! Tour 280!!! That's NOT China because of the HEAD Barcode Label Inside is written on the racquet. It was manufactured in Austria and finished in the Czech Republic.
     
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    Ok if it is not chinese, a bad racquet would not being.

    But i would like to know if it has similar specs of the 280.

    I will wait for others' answers about it
     
  28. DJ-

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    I think you may have a special limited edition release there. It is an Austrian for sure as VS said, which Is why I asked does it have head bar code label.
    Can you measure the weight? swing weight and flex?
    40ft (12metres) will be enough for a whole racquet with the same string. If you use it in a hybrid mixture you will still have a half to use.
    Polyester only lasts 8-12hours, gut/poly can last up to 30hours in my opinion. Some poly can last 20hrs. It's up to you start which something cheap and find out what you like. Have a read here on poly hybrids.
     
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    Ok i have the racquet here with me.

    So it seems an Austrian one, also if on the frame is written "HEAD designed in Austria" but not on the side ? While on the side there is "HEAD BAR CODE LABEL INSIDE", then inside there are infos only about tension of the strings, no code i can see.

    This is the racquet
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    This is one side
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    This is the other side
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    This is the Designed in Austria
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    This is the inside label, but no code
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    This is the 630 cm
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    This is the butt cap ? It seems molded, possible ?
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    Grip size i suppose
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    Full cap, but i can't see grommets on the top, but the same plastic coverage, please confirm this
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    I read about the strings that lasts 8-12 hours or up to 30hrs, so each 1-2-3 weeks i need to change the strings ? I play usually 3 days per week 3h each day, so 9hrs about for week, then i will have to change the strings again ? Usually we use 45-60 minutes to warm-up and to try the shots, then we make some matches (almost all in doubles). Repeat i'm a novice so maybe i can use them for more hours, but just to understand how they works.

    For others specs, like swingweight, flex, and the rest, let me know how to measure it.

    If you need more photos let me know.

    Now the questions:

    1) is a real Austrian made ? i suppose yes, the seller has also a Prestige Tour 600 that want to sell me, 40$ for it, it has the label on side HEAD MADE IN AUSTRIA, but i don't know if it is similar to this like specs and frame, let me know and i can buy also it so i will have two of them.

    2) i will need a grip and overgrip ? a grip for sure it is naked.

    3) full cap or not i will decide after i will weigh it, i hope in 1 hour about, but i will like grommet so it will be repaired on the top from accidental shots, hardly i shots on the ground sidely

    4) which strings if i need to change them often ? something cheap ? for now synthetic gut, polyester, or natural gut is the same for me, import is cheap if i need to change them so often

    for now is all, later i will put the infos i can get from it (weight, lenght from top to bottom)

    thanks for now
    mavtop
     
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    mavtop, this is %100 made in Austria.
    You need a grip, keep in mind it is grip #4 so a thick grip might make it bigger. You can use babolat skinfeel grip, it is thinnner.
    The butcap is just old, easily replaced and cheap
    Try gosen o.g micro sheep syngut.
    Your stringer should have a machines to measure flex , swingweight balance...
    Good luck.
     
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    Ok i have some more infos:

    1) Lenght is 69 cm (2 ft and 3,1654 inches) from border bottom to the border top full cap

    2) Balance is 32 cm (1 ft and 0,5984 inches) from bottom or 37 cm (1 ft and 2,5669 inches) from top

    3) Weight in this condition is 322 -323 grams

    4) butt cap i removed the silver part, and under there is a black butt cap but nothing written on (i thought to find an HEAD written)

    Ok i read for strings tensions range 23kg-50lbs and 27kg-60lbs where it say on 27kg-60lbs more control while on 23kg-50lbs more power and almost all of you is using

    a) with natural gut (babolat vs touch 1,30mm 16g)/ polyester (luxilon allu power 1,25mm 16g) around 21,7-24kg or 48-50lbs on mains and 21k-23,5kg or 46-52lbs on crosses. It would be more power and less control, but you all talk about a lot of spin and more precision and i suppose control. Would it is the opposite ?

    b) full poly 17g or 18g at 19kg or 42lbs on mains and 18kg or 40lbs on crosses, also here this would give more power and not more control, like indicated on the infos on the racquet, maybe i'm doing something wrong ?

    5) i need something to reduce vibrations ?

    6) the actual grip size (i know there is no grip) is thinner than i need, so which grip i need to choose to get the right measure ? how can i measure it ?

    7) after i used the strings for 9hours (poly) or 30hours (gut+poly), do i need to change them ? just to understand, if someone can explain it better the string duration and what after that

    8) I have found gosen og micro sheep 2 from 1,28mm 16L or 1,35mm but not indicated the G and gose og sheep spin 1,30mm 16G, i suppose for the spin i would use the 2nd, but can i mix, one on the main and one on the cross ? or the synthetic gut is used the same on main and crosses ?

    9) on tenniswarehouse-europe i found the Head Microgel Radical MP grommet, i know it is cheap, any other better model from this list http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/catpage-HEADGROM-IT.html ? all costs the same, so if there is a better model i prefer

    thanks
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    ok for now i will go with a

    Head Hydrosorb 1,8 mm 23 gr but i don't know if it will be enough, anyway if needed i will add the Head Overgrip, but i will see when i will get the racquet back.

    For the string i put Babolat Xcel Limited 1,30 mm 26kg - 57 lbs on mains 25 kg - 55 lbs on crosses

    I will get the racquet back on Tuesday (if lucky on Monday), so i will test on Wednesday and Friday and i will let you know how i feel the racquet (first time i will use it).

    I will weigh the racquet when back to know the new weight, with grip-overgrip and new strings.

    I will use for 1-2 monthes and then i will decide which new strings put on, maybe some of your hint or mix.

    For now i wanted to stay simple and understand the racquet and my needs, repeat i'm a novice, i will have to learn the tecnic better, i will improve my skill and i will have to learn the racquet and my styleplay.

    Anyway i will let you know how i will evolve, if you are interested :)
     
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    double post i don't know why, sorry
     
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    Mavtop, that grip is fine if you like synthetic grips, it is popular and feels nice. If you need any information on grips here is the right page where you can look at all grips including overgrips for sizing and other information.

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...pecs-weight-thickness-into-one-thread.465717/

    For information on natural gut / poly this thread is good

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/the-gut-poly-thread.521459/

    You play a lot, so yeah you will change poly regularly, maybe 10hours or so. It all depends how much it affects your game.
    You don't need much for vibrations, these racquets are solid frames, if you want you could use a rubber band like Agassi.

    For me personally it is cheaper to have natural gut / poly which I can get 30+ hours ! I actually save money in the long run.

    Best
     
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    Yes for now i play a lot but repeat i'm a novice, so i don't know if i can stress the strings like you, advanced users, for now most of my shots are flat, some slices (that i love) and some topspin (i'm learning it), but i play 3-3,5h each time, when possible 3 days/week if i can find an opponent or a team of opponents (for doubles) else 2 days/week for sure if weather permit.
    Usually 1h of training (no teacher) just sending the ball on the other side, trying serves, topspins and slices, then up to we can run (usually i walk lately) with matches (usually 2-2,5h) in doubles.
    We are 8 coworkers, and we started again after 20-25 years of no tennis, so you can imagine the level, at the beginning was just hard to send the ball on the other side.
    But now we can play a lot better, serving (mainly flat and some sliced, but not so hard or fast), slicing (for me my best shot), some tops (i need to learn and improve), smashes (i need to improve), volleys (my best 2nd shot, but need to improve).
    Obviously the ball lot of time is high (an advanced player could get the point each time), but i'm learning to keep it low especially using the topspin or the slice.
    The level of players is almost the same, who more who less, but we get a lot of fun, teasing each team.
    We recorded each match with a chinese GO-PRO and some training too, we keep track of each match, points and almost all.
    I never known about strings in general, when i was young and played tennis i had a wood racquet and never changed strings, i always thought they have to change only when broken, i played for 2-3 years with the same racquet with the same strings, but also at that time i was a novice, also if i played a church's tournament and got 2nd, but i was really young, i remember a great forehand, while now i prefer to put the ball where i want also slowly but perfectly.
    Then i played sometimes later, but then i changed sport, a lot of sports and then stopped to play everything, so my weight grow.
    Now i'm back, i wanted to lose some weight and we decided to play tennis again.
    I really like tennis specially in doubles, i found a coworker that is ok for me, he runs and i keep close to the net :) i'm joking but actually is so.
    After 2 days of playing i stretched a calf very hard, i barely can walking for first days, so i was stopped for 10 days (luckily the weather didn't permit to play others :) ), but i suppose i needed more time, so i played again after 10 days and again a little stretch at the same calf. So after that i played walking only in the court.
    Now i hope/think to have my calf back at the normal stage, it seems right now, today i will play again, but i will not run still, just walking fast or very fast i don't want to stay stopped, so i will begin slowly (it's hard in tennis i know, specially in matches, but i learnt to leave the ball if i can't reach in my situation).
    I will use again an Head Competition Tour 660 of a friend, that i feel really good for my playstyle, i don't know if my racquet will be ready today, still no sms from strunger :) else i could test it.
    I suppose i will have to wait wednesday to try it.
    I will follow the treads you linked, i found a website that send a lot of the strings you use here.
    Thanks all for your help
    mavtop
     
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    sorry again double post
     
  37. DJ-

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    The game has changed a lot, polyester strings are behind one of those reasons. Back in the day we had gut, nylon, kevlar. Now it is so much easier with polyester strings and bigger, lighter, stiffer racquets. We have all been guilty of trying the 'new stuff'. These head racquets are classics, and still used by pro's on tour !
    Play with what you like, and enjoy your tennis. There is plenty of great thread information on here, but as a wise man once said, the more you spend time reading on talk tennis the worse your game gets hahah
    We are all amateurs here, maybe the odd semi-pro here and there :)
    Let us know how your rare tour 280 plays!
     
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    Time is passed and all change, cars, computer, mobile phone, so also tennis, racquet, strings and also we changed :)
    I will let you know how my rare tour 280 will play, i hope to try it today, i'm not in the skin anymore to try it, playing with a friend's racquet is not the max, i want my racquet, i want to feel it, i want to know how i feel, how to control, i hope to have choosen the right tensions for me, else i will have to push hard to send the ball to the other side :) but with my friend racquet when i push the ball go over the fence or too long, this is because he kept the tension lower.
    All my coworkers have strunged around 23 kg i suppose, they left decide to the strungman :) that known they are beginner player and he used a lower tension to make the ball go to the other side easily, the side effect is when they push a little more the ball, it goes over the fence or too long, i prefered choose a couple of tensions so i will know if they are good for me or not and how much i need to push.
    I made a list with date of strung, string type (caliber, gauge, name of the string and cost), tensions of the strings (mains and crosses) and i will write how i feel new, when it will break or when i will feel it lose power,spin or other.
    Then i will need your help for sure to choose other strings, mainly cheap strings if i need to change often.
    I will have one month and half to play tennis, then some holiday, then back to tennis (i'm lucky we have an outdoor field of tennis where i work, so we stop to work and go to play tennis).
    If weather will assist like in the last 2 years we will be able to play tennis outdoor up to the end of october.
    The field is used to play soccer and it is in synthetic grass with sands on, not the max to play tennis but it is free of charge so good enough.
    Else we could play tennis in another place with red ground that is close to our work place, but we need to pay each hour, but has an indoor field that is really beautiful (seem the field of rolland garros, joking but really beautiful), but repeat for now we like to play outdoor, then this winter we will have to choose if play indoor or not.
    I'm reading the thread about gut/poly and there are a lot of combo, caliber, tensions, like you recommend the only way is to try.

    thank for your time
    mavtop
     
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    why i got always double posts ?

    is there a way to delete a double post ?

    thanks in advance
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    So I used the PT280 back in college some 15 years ago and just now back into the swing of things over the last year. Picked up a few on the bay and put new grommets/pallets on them. Great flex and I like the weight to them.

    I searched this forum but couldn't find recommendations for strings for the PT280 other than just going for a 17 gauge string (which I will try)

    Anyone have any input on using a hybrid string set up on these?? I tried Yonex Poly Pro Tour hybrid with Wilson NXT 15 and liked it.
    Or any soft poly string that works well? (healthy now but coming off some elbow problems ... dang Graphene Radical)

    Side note, all of the ones I've picked up are "designed in Austria" - I know that means made in China but one of my racquets is a lighter blue than the other ones. Wondering if it is different in any way or it's just a fluke? I attached some pics - the one in the middle is the lighter blue one.
     
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    Do any of your racquets say "HEAD Barcode Label Inside" on the side of the frame?
     
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    None do actually
     
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    Hi guys,

    i found a Head Pro Tour Lite 630, it is maden in Austria and green color, has it the same frame characteristics of the pro tour 630/280 ? If yes i will buy it like 2nd racquet, so i can experiment with strings.

    The next post i will let you know my experience with the 280 racquet used yesterday.

    mavtop
     
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    Hi guys, like promised yesterday i tested the Pro Tour 280 in the field.

    The strings are Babolat Xcel Limited 1,30mm 16g and the tension was 26 kg - 57 lbs on mains 25 kg - 55 lbs on crosses.

    These are the first impressions after 3h of use: 20 mins to warm-up, 2 matches 2h-20min and then 20 mins of vole, demi-vole' and serves.

    I missed some balls, i was used to the 660 frame of the previous racquet, Head Competition 660.

    20 mins of warm-up wasn't enough to understand the characteristics of the racquet and the first match in double my team won 6-1 6-2, we were technically superior of the other team, we didn't push too much.

    The second match was harder for me, it was a single match, my teammate versus me, we are technically at the same level, but he is fast and thin, while i'm fat and slow but i can see the field better (if you understand what i mean).

    Anyway i lose in 2 sets 2-6 5-7 but i could test the racquet and finally feel the racquet.

    Like with the Head Competition 660, i found the feel very very good, also if at the end i had some elbow pain, but very little, today i have no more, i don't know if it is a sign or it is normal after 3 hours, i remember i had the same feeling with the Head Competition 660, maybe the weight of the racquet ... i don't know, but for now it is ok, then we'll see in the future.

    Pros:

    Control, control, control: my shots in air, vole', demi-vole' are controlled at the perfection, like also slices and touch under the net.

    Serves: i need to push a little more (but i need to verify, i was very tired yesterday in the 4th set) but sliced serves are perfect, i can make a short ball (in slice) more easily.

    I can use forehand easily and it keeps the ball in the field if i'm in the sweet-spot or around it.

    I still need to fix my backhand but i used it not so much and a lot of time in recovery, but today i count to play 2 hours again.

    Cons:

    Forehand too on the sides when i try to cross the ball or to push something more, but maybe this is a technique problem, i will have to investigate from the videos, to understand if i'm wrong position or the movement is not correct.

    The 660 frame is bigger and permit more recovery in hard situation, with the 630 i had some problem to recover on sides shots, i will have to run before or faster :)

    3 hours are not enough to give the final feeling, i will have to test it more, hope today to play other 2 hours and tomorrow too, in the while i found another racquet Head Pro Tour Lite 630, if it has the same frame and the same characteristic of the PT280/630 i will buy like second racquet, from that i read, it would be lighter, that could be good, i can add weight if i need, but i read also it is head heavier, i will need to add some weight on the butt cap ? If so how much ? I would like to have 2 identical racquet with 2 lightly different setups, just to try different strings.

    A good news for me, my calf seems fixed properly, also if yesterday i left some balls because i didn't want to stretch it again.

    Let me know what you think.

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    Ok i see this tread is not so alive :)

    Yesterday 2 hours of play: 10 mins warm-up then 1h e 50 mins of mixed sets (we were only in 3) 1 vs 2 (single field vs double field), i won my 1 vs 2 match for 6-3 but lose my 2 vs 1 for 2-6

    Finally i feel the racquet how i want.

    Serves are fast enough, yesterday i forced some 1st serve and got a very fast ball, my opponents didn't send it back, maybe i found the right ball high in the serve, i will have to test it again.

    for an attacker like me, slices, vole' and demi-vole' are perfect, the control is fantastic, the ball goes where i want, short or long all depends on me, now i need to lose some weight on my body to run faster :)

    This racquet is perfect for my playstyle, but still i need to manage a better backhand, usually if i can i prefer the forehand, so when i need to use the backhand sometimes i do some errors.

    Yesterday i recovered more balls and played better than last time, maybe i know the racquet better, or i'm improving my technique, but i'm very happy.

    I don't feel now that the 660 frame is better than this, maybe i could recover very far balls, but yesterday i did the same with this 630 frame.

    Someone can confirm that the Head Pro Tour Lite 630 has the same frame, tawron, and all the rest like the Pro Tour 630 ? I know it is head heavier and maybe i need to add weight on the butt cap, someone can confirm this ?

    Thanks again
    mavtop
     
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    It is a great control frame, great for volleys and all round game. If you add more weight you might have too much static weight. depends what you are comfortable with. The lite tour 630 green one is the same mold, and only 300grams strung with 8points head light, there is also an XL version.

    https://www.prostocktennis.com/products/head-lite-tour-630-made-in-austria
     
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    Yes i got the green one.

    So is it only lighter ? Other differences ? Do i need to put some weight on ?

    I would like to have 2 similar racquets with same strings but different tensions

    I read the lite is head heavier and someone recommend to put some weight in the butt cap.

    How i know if do i need some weight ? How do i recognize it while playing tennis ?

    I could use a leather grip for this, so i can add some weight, right ?
     
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    It is up to you if you want to put weight on, you can do it by lead, bluetac in handle, silicone, or leather grip with lead at 12 o'clock e.t.c
    Get a racquet you love, get the specs like balance from a stringer, work out what you like playing with. For me more weight = more control / stability.
    Get a heavy leather grip and maybe some more weight in the handle, i'm not an expert on the mathematics, but look at the lead tape customization thread and grip thread I posted. Some leather grips have added 12-16 grams for me.

    Here is the balance chart

    For a 27” frame

    Even balance = 34.30
    1pt head light = 33.98
    2 pts head light = 33.66
    3 pts head light = 33.35
    4 pts head light = 33.03
    5 pts head light = 32.71
    6 pts head light = 32.39
    7 pts head light = 32.08
    8 pts head light = 31.76
    9 pts head light = 31.44
    10 pts head light = 31.12
    11 pts head light = 30.81
    12 pts head light = 30.49
     
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    Ok but it is 8 point head heavier, so how to revert it ? i think it is impossible to bring it to a Head Lighter setup or not ?
     
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    Get a real heavy grip leather or synthetic, look in the grip thread to see what is heavy and you can get in your area or on the net. Then measure the balance. This will then tell you how much you will need to add. A stringer or racquet shop should be able to do this without problems. If you can get it to at least 33cm balance you might be happy with that..
     
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