*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

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  1. PT630Wannabe

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    I just had a great hit with a bunch of classic HEAD racquets. Elite Pro, Elektra Pro, Prestige Classic 600, PT57e, and a couple PT630s that my hitting partner brought. I had never hit with a retail Pro Tour 630 before. All I can say is wow. The hype is justified. What a magnificent racquet.
     
  2. vsbabolat

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    I have just realized this thread is almost 10 years old now with over 500,00 views and over 2,200 posts. There is little to no interest in this racquet :rolleyes:
     
  3. kingadam1985

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  4. vsbabolat

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    There was someone else that found a Trisys Tour in blue. That wasn't sold in the USA. It seems to be a Europe only release. Not much info on it.
     
  5. BDAZ

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    I wish, if nothing else, Head would use the PT57 mold for the Prestige MP. I just like the look, feel, dimensions of that mold.
     
  6. vsbabolat

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    We all do......
     
  7. Nicholas Kakatsis

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    After using 16x19 patterns exclusively decided to pick up a PT630 and give it a shot. Main reason the stellar comments on feel (I have used a TGK 231.3 and 231.5) and that despite the dense patter, it still generates impressive spin. Been a guy who likes to tune his rackets I started the process. My ball park specs are 340-350 grams SW 340, 5-6 HL balance. I was targeting the SW....well the racket (been a MIA one) came is with a SW of 310 strung and already at 343grams... Had to drive it all the way to 372gram with a 6.5HL balance and 342 SW. I really look forward to hitting with it and see if and how I will handle the additional 20-30 grams of what I am normally accustomed to...

    I have played with slightly heavier than 350gr frames before but never with such a sledge hammer... :)
     
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  8. bkfinch

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    You can do it.

    Playing around with your grommets- whether they are CAP or Radical and your base grip (leather = heavier, some synthetics can be much lighter) you can reduce or increase your starting spec to what you want/need. The grommet situation makes the PT a unique platform.
     
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  9. Backhanded Compliment

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    for a company called Head, they certainly make their customers scratch theirs a lot
     
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  10. BlueB

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    Wait your PT630 measures 310 SW, strung?!? They are supposed to be north of 330.

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
     
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  11. Classic-TXP-IG MID

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    Awaiting the arrival of my PT630... Can't wait to have a hit...

    @vsbabolat (and anyone else), how does it compare in feel to the Pyramid Tour 630...?

    Thanks :)
     
  12. Nicholas Kakatsis

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    Sth I forgot to mention is that the racquet is shortened to 67.5cm and the head has been squashed from the extreme tension differential between mains/crosses. Therefore i guess this us the reason for the low SW strung.

    I will take that into consideration next time i string it.

    EDIT: that said, it is i think obvious the different approach from manufacturers re racquets now (more polarized, higher SW and stiffness ar lower static weight) vs old racquets with low stiffness, really high static weight and lower SWs.
     
  13. Nicholas Kakatsis

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    It is surprising and totally unexpected. Actually it made me have a look over the web and check from old posts/threads/ads the specs. There is a range between 315-320 for strung rackets. Compound that with the shortened length which lowers SW and there you have it.

    I played for the first time and I really enjoyed the feeling. I now got the hype behind it. Owning a racket from another era and comparing it with today's frames one can see first hand how things changed.

    My PT630 is now customized to a SW of 340....but to get there I upped the static weight to 360gr. My more modern frames, can reach the same SW but with a significantly lower static weight (340-350) - obviously assuming the balance I like etc. So a key question would be how come a rackets with lower Head Weight can have the same SW with one that carries a significantly -by some 12grams - lower Head weight? This creates the following issue:

    The PT630 has a really low recoil weight (162) vs the more modern rackets (175) (higher mass for a given SW lowers recoil weight). On the other hand, the PT630, under those specs seem to move its RH a lot faster for a given swing speed than the other rackets. Fact which compensates for the higher static weight....You may move the racket slower but the head moves faster.

    In all, it is as if we are talking about two worlds and one now needs to decide where he should live..
     
  14. zalive

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    It surely was successful in raising price for those racquets...
     
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  15. PT630Wannabe

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    Yes. Prices are currently out of control. And we are all to blame in this thread.
     
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  16. 1010

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    EU ones where blue. I have no experience with asian market.
    The color scheme is a clear reference to VAMP tour.
    [​IMG]

    The poster said she carry a "designed" instead of "made in", I can guess it has chinese origins.
    the font is interesting.

    It is either another lightweight Trisys in the 100-199 range (remember Trysis 150 was grey/black) or the old Vamp for selected-markets, as in America and Asia?

    Note: it's sold Full CAPped + poly stringed + overgripped with that false tape that mimicks leather, the owner should be advanced enough to know specs if asked, oh well, if you can speak its language. Then you can deduce the model from weight and balance.
     
  17. 1010

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    The BIG, unavoidable problem in Lite Tour is the extreme HeadyHeavy balance. I can fix a kid's staff with 34 cm balance, but that thing had a 38-39cm point of equilibrium.
    Remember that PT had 32cm.
    One of my calculations showed that you need not 10g, but 40g to get to 32,5cm which is not like PT, but near enough.
    40gr is ouch and remember to not fill up the handle, leave space for some more in case you need to up the swingweight via lead, then you'll need more and more in the handle.
    That is how a Lite Tour would become a Fatty Tour.
    Let me know how it goes.
     
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    With 9g at the but, a light Tourna overgrip and a rubber band dampener, it came to 34.3cm (even) balance. With that mod, entire thing is only like 308g (strung). So plenty of room to make it head light.
    Just for en example, 30g at the butt, + overgrip and rubber band, would make it 329g, 32.4cm balance. That's decently head light (about 6 points), without making it full PT weight.
     
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  19. Classic-TXP-IG MID

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    It's doable and the feel of the racquet is still plush and similar to the PT. For the difference in price between the two, trying a little modification may not be so bad even if you end up back to PT weight or a little less... after all, it may not be a bad place to end up in... PT land...
     
  20. 1010

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    Calculations done.
    No way you can fix the Lite with a small mod (<10g), the kind you can make yourself on grips and overs, and your original question.
    But
    32,5 and also 32cm balance (+46...50g) are achievable via expert modding, technician work imho.
    AND the final staff is far from the 360gr mark (PT280). "Fatty" is a midpoint between stock form and the target PT, and near the weight class of modern player racquets.

    Let us know how "the thing" plays. I welcome testers of "fatty", the once name Lite.
     
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  21. Classic-TXP-IG MID

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    PT 630 arrived two days ago... Looks and feels magnificent... However, the weather has been wet and windy so haven't been able to have a hit... Limited to bouncing ball in house... fells nice though
     
  22. BlueB

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    I think you misunderstood on few levels...

    First, I'm not talking about calculations - I actually did those 2 weighings, physically.

    2nd, 30g doesn't have to be a very hard mod. It can be done by using one of those shock absorbing grips, that weighs well North of 30g, plus a bit of putty or lead, if still required...

    Last but not least, the target is not PT280's weight, but to make something noticeably lighter that still plays similar.

    I played with the 309g, even balanced version. It was plush, served huge and hit big groundies. However, I had to pay more attention to timing, as the balance is not what I'm used to.
    I still have to play with the 329g version.
     
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  23. Classic-TXP-IG MID

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    Side note... I love your statement at the bottom... "It's never too late..." I could not agree more... :)
     
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  24. BlueB

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    Ha, ha, thanks!
    I've been 12... 4 times already. It seems its getting better, every time around!
     
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  25. zalive

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    Let's not forget Head made racquets in Czech Republic as well during one period.

    It may sound awful when you have to add this much, but hey, heavier racquets have their mass somewhere :) it's mainly about what end specs someone wants.
     

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