The Official Novak Djokovic Brethren Thread 2.0 (Brethren Only)

FreeBird

Legend
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THE SON OF GOD

Welcome Brothers and Sisters to the OFFICIAL NOVAK DJOKOVIC BRETHREN THREAD 2.0. Here we will discuss all things related to SOG. It is time to re-ignite the fire. This post will be updated in future (when I get some idle time) and I hope that you will help me in keeping this thread alive. The magnificence and hilarity of the original brethren thread cannot be repeated but still we would try to keep this thread as interesting and engaging as possible without crossing the limits.

To be continued....

Novak's start to the year has been underwhelming by his typical standards, through that fact that he tends to win the Australian Open, but this time only made it to the quarter-finals. Freebird started a thread that highlights some potential current problems in Novak's game, many of which I personally agreed with -- you can view the thread here:http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=488897 .

Since his loss, we've come to learn that more praise needs to be heaped on Wawrinka than we previously thought. Stan -- a man who pushed Nole extremely hard and close twice in Majors through the 2013 season -- finally got over the hump and managed to defeat Djokovic in a classic, intense and hugely pressurised match that went the distance. He then backed this up with a solid and consistent performance to beat Berdych in the semi-finals and went on to conquer a foe whom he had the most lopsided losing record against, the number 1 seed, Nadal, in the finals, in a surprising, shocking upset that can be called nothing else but extremely well deserved.

In light of this, one shouldn't be too worried about Novak's game, as Stan clearly hit a purple patch this tournament and made good on his somewhat surprise victory over Djokovic by winning the entire event. While this serves to somewhat mitigate some of the concerns and pains regarding Novak's loss, it doesn't mask over the issues that have been brought forth to bear in the aforementioned thread, and one cannot look past the curious way in which Novak simply handed over the match victory -- that is, two unforced errors.

The problem is, unforced errors at critical moments in tight matches has started to become somewhat of a forte for the mighty Serbian -- how could one forget untimely double faults in the 2012 Roland Garros final against Nadal, for example.

This isn't the only aspect of his game that needs to be rectified if he is going to find a reliable winning formula once again for the Majors...

Novak Djokovic's excellence as a player has actually started to confound him. He's so good, that he can hide behind consistency and safety to get the job done against anyone not named Nadal and on occasions Murray and Federer. The rest of the players typically can't push him when he's in this mode, and I believe it's because of this that he came unstuck against Wawrinka in the quarter-finals. Djokovic was unable to find the extra gear required that he has displayed many times in the past because he was too settled and comfortable in a zone of tennis that is at best, settled in fourth gear. This fourth gear of tennis is still so excellent in itself, that it affords Novak a sense of comfort and complacency against the vast bulk of the tour -- he's forgotten his old limits, and he must reclaim them in order to reclaim himself and reclaim his mastery of the game, both tactically and emotionally.

Can Novak Djokovic achieve these things and rectify the current errors of his ways? I believe he most certainly can, and though many see his recent coaching addition choice as somewhat strange, fellow six-time Grand Slam champion, Boris Becker, is an esteemed member to have on any coaching team and has the extravagance to boot that may well synergise in perfect harmony with the ever expressive Novak.

One thing is for sure: that the people and 'fans', lest we forget, will be eagerly anticipating Novak's future and be following the next events of his tennis career very closely, as he and his team march forward in search of further improvements and success, as to foreshadow what they hope will be Novak Djokovic's crowning achievement -- the completion of a Career Grand Slam. The ever impregnable and omnipresent Rafael Nadal though, will surely be standing in his way, at the historic, fiery battlefield of Roland Garros.

The fascinating journeys and stories of the year 2014 in tennis have just begun, and the tale of Novak Djokovic himself sees no end in sight.

DISCLAIMER: The content of this thread are meant for fun only and not intended to hurt anybody's feelings. If you get offended by any post, feel free to tell me, I will make arrangements to remove it. It takes a lot of creativity and rigor in some of the work here, so I humbly request you to respect their work. After all, life is not about GOAT wars and H2Hs only, there should be a funnier side to tennis too. You are cordially invited here to add value irrespective of the fan base you belong to.
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FreeBird

Legend
Good thread. Happy you've done this FreeBird. I couldn't do another one after the closure of the first brethren thread.

I will try to update OP after some time. We have a lot of brethren this time. By the way, do you have any left material of last brethren thread's OP? That would have assisted me a lot.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Oh my now what do we have here... :)

Lets try and not have Nadal fans wreck this one.
It is sad you can not play in the sand box with Nadal fans. They are like flailing chimpanzees. The thread inevitably get deleted, posts removed, etc...
Such sensitive areas on the Nadal fans. It is sad tho because all other fans have not nearly the troubles interacting with one another.
 

Solo

Banned
Yes and the brethren needs to be active on this thread too

Soon my fellow Djokovians, he shall rise from the ashes :cool:
 

Backbored

Hall of Fame
what happened to the 1st thread ?... :|

If memory serves, things got just a little bit over the top with some of the posts and pics. So don’t take the bait you know that is coming, and use good judgment in posting pictures. It was such a pity what happened to the last thread which was full of creative pics, witty banter and all around good camaraderie.

Full discloser, I am a Rafa and Novak fan who was given a special dispensation on the last thread. If you decide decline my membership this time, I will abide with your decision.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
I look forward once again to reinvigorating my Photoshop career.
 

FreeBird

Legend
Full discloser, I am a Rafa and Novak fan who was given a special dispensation on the last thread. If you decide decline my membership this time, I will abide with your decision.

No problemo. Your Semi-brethren status will remain intact. 8)

I look forward once again to reinvigorating my Photoshop career.

Hold your horses for now. The thread is still in its nascent stage. Let me update the OP in the next 2-3 days. I just started this thread to give you all a gentle reminder. :)

Yes and the brethren needs to be active on this thread too

Soon my fellow Djokovians, he shall rise from the ashes :cool:

This page will be much more than just a Djokovic fan page. You would have known its awesomeness if you were here when the original brethren thread was created. It was kickass. :twisted:
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
Let's get the ball rolling.

Novak's start to the year has been underwhelming by his typical standards, through that fact that he tends to win the Australian Open, but this time only made it to the quarter-finals. Freebird started a thread that highlights some potential current problems in Novak's game, many of which I personally agreed with -- you can view the thread here:http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=488897 .

Since his loss, we've come to learn that more praise needs to be heaped on Wawrinka than we previously thought. Stan -- a man who pushed Nole extremely hard and close twice in Majors through the 2013 season -- finally got over the hump and managed to defeat Djokovic in a classic, intense and hugely pressurised match that went the distance. He then backed this up with a solid and consistent performance to beat Berdych in the semi-finals and went on to conquer a foe whom he had the most lopsided losing record against, the number 1 seed, Nadal, in the finals, in a surprising, shocking upset that can be called nothing else but extremely well deserved.

In light of this, one shouldn't be too worried about Novak's game, as Stan clearly hit a purple patch this tournament and made good on his somewhat surprise victory over Djokovic by winning the entire event. While this serves to somewhat mitigate some of the concerns and pains regarding Novak's loss, it doesn't mask over the issues that have been brought forth to bear in the aforementioned thread, and one cannot look past the curious way in which Novak simply handed over the match victory -- that is, two unforced errors.

The problem is, unforced errors at critical moments in tight matches has started to become somewhat of a forte for the mighty Serbian -- how could one forget untimely double faults in the 2012 Roland Garros final against Nadal, for example.

This isn't the only aspect of his game that needs to be rectified if he is going to find a reliable winning formula once again for the Majors...

Novak Djokovic's excellence as a player has actually started to confound him. He's so good, that he can hide behind consistency and safety to get the job done against anyone not named Nadal and on occasions Murray and Federer. The rest of the players typically can't push him when he's in this mode, and I believe it's because of this that he came unstuck against Wawrinka in the quarter-finals. Djokovic was unable to find the extra gear required that he has displayed many times in the past because he was too settled and comfortable in a zone of tennis that is at best, settled in fourth gear. This fourth gear of tennis is still so excellent in itself, that it affords Novak a sense of comfort and complacency against the vast bulk of the tour -- he's forgotten his old limits, and he must reclaim them in order to reclaim himself and reclaim his mastery of the game, both tactically and emotionally.

Can Novak Djokovic achieve these things and rectify the current errors of his ways? I believe he most certainly can, and though many see his recent coaching addition choice as somewhat strange, fellow six-time Grand Slam champion, Boris Becker, is an esteemed member to have on any coaching team and has the extravagance to boot that may well synergise in perfect harmony with the ever expressive Novak.

One thing is for sure: that the people and 'fans', lest we forget, will be eagerly anticipating Novak's future and be following the next events of his tennis career very closely, as he and his team march forward in search of further improvements and success, as to foreshadow what they hope will be Novak Djokovic's crowning achievement -- the completion of a Career Grand Slam. The ever impregnable and omnipresent Rafael Nadal though, will surely be standing in his way, at the historic, fiery battlefield of Roland Garros.

The fascinating journeys and stories of the year 2014 in tennis have just begun, and the tale of Novak Djokovic himself sees no end in sight.
 
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JRAJ1988

Guest
Ignore all the trolls and long live Novak Djokovic.

I hope he achieves his career slam sooner rather than later, surely come the French Open he will do everything in his power to win!!
 

underground

G.O.A.T.
We're starting again?

It's annoying how the first thread was deleted, I had so much contribution to the Djesus Bible as well...:(
 

Solo

Banned
Why what happened to the first brethren thread? Is is still out there for me to check out even if its locked? And what kind of pictures were posted in there to make the thread shut down, like degrading ones? I don't see why it should have been shut down when you have threads like Nadal news and Chasing history and various other threads.

P.S EVERYONE, 5 star this thread to stop the drones from one-starring it please, thanks.
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
I'm a Fed fan first and foremost, but I'm also a fan of Novak. Can I get semi-brethren status as well?
 

Tenez101

Banned
Oh god, I've been waiting for a resurrection of this thread for ages. Please allow me into your circle oh honorable Brethren! I bake a mean gluten-free donkey-cheese pie, I'll bring enough for everyone to Brethren meetings!
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
Oh god, I've been waiting for a resurrection of this thread for ages. Please allow me into your circle oh honorable Brethren! I bake a mean gluten-free donkey-cheese pie, I'll bring enough for everyone to Brethren meetings!

Photo evidence is required.
 

T-Noone

Professional
I don't know about you guys, but I WANT that old Novak back!
I want the Novak with helmet hair, fiery eyes filled with a passion to win, and a stellar baseline game.
Here's to the French Open 2014 (a few Master titles beforehand would be nice, too)
Idemo!
 

Solo

Banned
He needs to stop being passive, that's it. For some reason he isn't passive against Nadal but the rest, he is. He needs to know now that others can beat him so can't take the risk of playing your B game against lesser players.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
He needs to stop being passive, that's it. For some reason he isn't passive against Nadal but the rest, he is. He needs to know now that others can beat him so can't take the risk of playing your B game against lesser players.

I really do agree.

If we imagine that his best balance of defence and offence would be defence1:1offence (arbitrary -- presume 1:1 to be personal equilibrium conducive for best tennis for player in question) and that at his best he achieved his 1:1 ratio, one can argue that earlier in his career he was more aggressive than required for his strengths and so wasn't at his peak, something like defence2:3offence. Over the last year or so he's lost that sort of golden tennis ratio of his and become too safe and defensively oriented, demonstrating too much pseudo-attack, and altering his ratio to something more on the defensive side such as say, defence3:2offence.

He should try to find his 1:1 again... his equilibrium.
 
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Solo

Banned
Yeah that's why because he thinks he doesn't need to play his best at the start against the lesser players, when he brings it at the end of the match it's too late. Need to start firing from the start and finish the matches asap. Now he knows Wawrinka can beat him, he better be prepared against Stan next time. The 4th set was excellent from Djokovic, something like 16 winners against Stan, but as I said, left it too late.
 

Backbored

Hall of Fame
Am I the only one looking forward to the Monte Carlo master’s tournament? ? You know where Novak ended Rafa’s eight year reign. Who will be the winner in 2014?
 

Solo

Banned
I really do agree.

If we imagine that his best balance of defence and offence would be defence1:1offence (arbitrary -- presume 1:1 to be personal equilibrium conducive for best tennis for player in question) and that at his best he achieved his 1:1 ratio, one can argue that earlier in his career he was more aggressive than required for his strengths and so wasn't at his peak, something like defence2:3offence. Over the last year or so he's lost that sort of golden tennis ratio of his and become too safe and defensively oriented, demonstrating too much pseudo-attack, and altering his ratio to something more on the defensive side such as say, defence3:2offence.

He should try to find his 1:1 again... his equilibrium.

ALSO some of those powder puff forehands needs to go. WTF is that crap? Seriously even I facepalm at some of the weak *** forehands, the guy needs power in his forehands.
 

dafinch

Banned
I'm hopeful that Nole will come back energized, he knows how close he was to winning the Dirtball last year, and that, with just a few more points, that could've been HIM tatooing BP on Sunday instead of Stan.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
I agree with all you up top. He has lost balance. He is some kind of acrobatic ballerina now. Too much finesse. Which is awesome but not when you have to play Tennis as well. The short loopy forehand when he gets in trouble has got to go. Major winners have a damaging forehand. The forehand is key to Djokovic. IMO he has to find balance and his forehand or he is done at the top.

I will go with Ferrer at MC. Ferrer is a great player!
 

T-Noone

Professional
I agree with all you up top. He has lost balance. He is some kind of acrobatic ballerina now. Too much finesse. Which is awesome but not when you have to play Tennis as well. The short loopy forehand when he gets in trouble has got to go. Major winners have a damaging forehand. The forehand is key to Djokovic. IMO he has to find balance and his forehand or he is done at the top.

I will go with Ferrer at MC. Ferrer is a great player!

I agree. Unfortunately I don't think Becker is a step in the right direction. Maybe he can hire Federer?...Bazinga!
 
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monfed

Guest
I'm picking Nadal at MC should they meet but it will give us a good idea of where their games are at.
 

FreeBird

Legend
Good to see the positive responses of all of you. Just wait. OP update will happen soon and we will get it started. :twisted:
I will put a disclaimer too in the OP so that if anybody is offended by any post, they can request to remove that post. Thus, we don't end up with removal of thread like the last time. :)
I'm a Fed fan first and foremost, but I'm also a fan of Novak. Can I get semi-brethren status as well?

It will be granted. :)

Why what happened to the first brethren thread? Is is still out there for me to check out even if its locked? And what kind of pictures were posted in there to make the thread shut down

No, it's gone. there were some pictures in it which people found offensive and then came a mayhem resulting in ban-hammer. We won't repeat the same mistake again.

Oh god, I've been waiting for a resurrection of this thread for ages. Please allow me into your circle oh honorable Brethren! I bake a mean gluten-free donkey-cheese pie, I'll bring enough for everyone to Brethren meetings!

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Backbored

Hall of Fame
I did use the cache function over at Google to see if anything could be resurrected nada. But this is a new start and most of us are more the wiser, stronger and better looking than the last time.
Now repeat after me. I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and, doggone it, people like me.
 
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JadeC

Hall of Fame
YES! We are back! I still haven't changed my avatar from the 1st thread. Probably will leave it on for a while.

^That photoshop has to be my favorite of Nathaniel_Near's. Very realistic and fitting.
 

TheF1Bob

Banned
Why what happened to the first brethren thread? Is is still out there for me to check out even if its locked? And what kind of pictures were posted in there to make the thread shut down, like degrading ones? I don't see why it should have been shut down when you have threads like Nadal news and Chasing history and various other threads.

P.S EVERYONE, 5 star this thread to stop the drones from one-starring it please, thanks.

Clarky happened.

N.S.K happened.

:(
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Awesome photos and I see one was just removed. What was so upsetting over that photo? It was the freaking truth. Many humans must need to be coddled and lied to in order to feel good about life or something.....weird....
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
I agree. Unfortunately I don't think Becker is a step in the right direction. Maybe he can hire Federer?...Bazinga!

LOL! Now that would be awesome to have Padre on the team...
I do not even know what to think of Becker. I have to see how the rest of the year plays out for me to make a judgment on Becker.
 

TheF1Bob

Banned
Awesome photos and I see one was just removed. What was so upsetting over that photo? It was the freaking truth. Many humans must need to be coddled and lied to in order to feel good about life or something.....weird....

LOL they have been removed. This is why I didn't bother making a brethren thread 2. Whats the point of putting so much work into something just to see it get deleted because of some insecure fans? And I'm not talking about the removal of my pictures.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
LOL they have been removed. This is why I didn't bother making a brethren thread 2. Whats the point of putting so much work into something just to see it get deleted because of some insecure fans? And I'm not talking about the removal of my pictures.

No point. Agreed. I know your not. ;-)
 

Backbored

Hall of Fame
I’m about to give up on Imgur. I have pictures of Novak that I have umm “borrowed” over the years (now I wish I had borrowed more) that I can’t post. The main page of my library opens but when you click for the large version it just sticks on the loading part.
 
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