The only man who can stop Djovak

D.Nalby12

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Only Murray has good a chance to beat the Djoker. Federer won't let him reach the Djoker though.
I think you haven't heard anything about how construction of roof has eliminated wind factor from play on AA stadium. Players and reputed analysts have been recorded the observation that conditions are close to indoors.

Murray's draw is tough, he is not going reach up to Djokovic most likely if seeds in his half stands and even if he does so, I'm not sure there will be much gas left in his tank for final push. He has already spent around 6 hours on court. Plus his record against Djokovic in last 10 matches is not so handsome.

Considering conditions this year, I'd say Federer and Wawr has better chance of beating Djokovic than Murray.
 

D.Nalby12

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Tsonga snapped 9 match losing streak against Djokovic almost a year ago on Montreal Decoturf beating him in dominant fashion. (6-2 6-2) After that these two haven't met yet. Tsonga has total six wins over Djokovic and every one of those is coming from pre 2011 period except Montreal win. Their h2h is 9-1 in Djokovic's favor since 2011.

Stats shows, Djokovic 2.0 is one of the toughest matchup for Tsonga. Not as tough as Murray (against whom Tsonga has no clue what to do) but still easily second toughest. It will take a very bad performance Djokovic to lose someone like Tsonga.
 
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Deanjam

Professional
Fed and Stan are much more likey candidates than Jo. I'd love the big guy to win a major but sadly, it's never gonna happen.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
No way. Jo Willy is one of Novak's pigeons ;)
Cool story, bro. 7-6 hardcourt h2h and 1-1 HC slam h2h is being a pigeon now.

Djovak is the clear favorite against everyone, sadly, but the Tsongster won't flinch, so be afraid. Be very afraid.


Only Murray has good a chance to beat the Djoker. Federer won't let him reach the Djoker though.
No. Murray can't beat Djovak here, and he can't go through Stannis and Feditis back-to-back, at least not unscathed, so it's moot. I'd love to see it happen, but it won't

A fit and motivated Waronka would have loved his chances versus Djovak on this court, but he doesn't quite seem in it to make the finals either.

Raja could well make the final, but would go down in four.
 
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I like Tsonga, very charismatic player. If he has his head on, he can certianly give it a go, but he'll have to get there first, and with Tsonga, it is not possible to know truly what form he will bring from match to match.
 

Sysyphus

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I like Tsonga, very charismatic player. If he has his head on, he can certianly give it a go, but he'll have to get there first, and with Tsonga, it is not possible to know truly what form he will bring from match to match.
Very true. Unpredictable. He could end up tumbling out to Paire in the next round. Or he could play awesome and crush Paire and Cilic.

Tsöngdinger's cat.
 

Slice'n'dice

Hall of Fame
Tsonga snapped 9 match losing streak against Djokovic almost a year ago on Montreal Decoturf beating him in dominant fashion. (6-2 6-2) After that these two haven't met yet. Tsonga has total six wins over Djokovic and every one of those is coming from pre 2011 period except Montreal win. Their h2h is 9-1 in Djokovic's favor since 2011.

Stats shows, Djokovic 2.0 is one of the toughest matchup for Tsonga. Not as tough as Murray (against whom Tsonga has no clue what to do) but still easily second toughest. It will take a very bad performance Djokovic to lose someone like Tsonga.
But Wawrinka has a good chance. What's Wawrinka's head-to-head against Djokovic again? Oh yeah, 20-4
 

Slice'n'dice

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No. Murray can't beat Djovak here, and he can't go through Stannis and Feditis back-to-back, at least not unscathed, so it's moot. I'd love to see it happen, but it won't

A fit and motivated Waronka would have loved his chances versus Djovak on this court, but he doesn't quite seem in it to make the finals either.
He might not have to though. Stan's not been playing his best recently, haven't seen much of him this tournament but doesn't look like he's been flying through looking at his scorelines. Federer may well have to play Berdych who's given him trouble, and Murray seems to be doing better against the Bryd these days. Obviously Murray hasn't played well either this tournament but if he gets through the next two rounds without too much trouble. Not the worst matches for him really 3rd and 4th round. And he plays a slightly off form Wawrinka (or Troicki or someone) and then the Bryd, then he has every chance I would say.

Although looking at it at the moment, it doesn't look too likely. But it's very early on, things can change quickly.
 

D.Nalby12

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But Wawrinka has a good chance. What's Wawrinka's head-to-head against Djokovic again? Oh yeah, 20-4
There are only four players who have scored multiple wins over Djokovic 2.0 in GS tournaments and Wawr is one of them.

Additionally, it's well established now that zoning Stanhammer is one of the toughest matchup for Novak in Slams. 4 of the their last 5 GS marches went to decider while Tsonga has received a couple of straight set beatdowns last year in GS tournament.

You decide now.
 

britam25

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Tsonga deserves a tslam. The moral tsampion.
Uh, you HAVE heard of those Swiss fellows, haven't you? I like Jo Willie and all, but that spanking of Nadal was a LONG time ago.
 

Slice'n'dice

Hall of Fame
There are only four players who have scored multiple wins over Djokovic 2.0 in GS tournaments and Wawr is one of them.

Additionally, it's well established now that zoning Stanhammer is one of the toughest matchup for Novak in Slams. 4 of the their last 5 GS marches went to decider while Tsonga has received a couple of straight set beatdowns last year in GS tournament.

You decide now.
Yet he's only had two wins since 2006 against Djokovic.

Well a couple of years ago at the French Tsonga had match points at 2-1 in sets vs Djokovic, and if he gets into his best rhythm he's a threat. As has been mentions he demolished him last time they played 6-2 6-2. So you can't discount him although of course Novak would be the heavy favourite of course.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
I think you haven't heard anything about how construction of roof has eliminated wind factor from play on AA stadium. Players and reputed analysts have been recorded the observation that conditions are close to indoors.

Murray's draw is tough, he is not going reach up to Djokovic most likely if seeds in his half stands and even if he does so, I'm not sure there will be much gas left in his tank for final push. He has already spent around 6 hours on court. Plus his record against Djokovic in last 10 matches is not so handsome.

Considering conditions this year, I'd say Federer and Wawr has better chance of beating Djokovic than Murray.
Total agreement.

I'd give Stan's power the slight edge. But if Fed is serving well and gets up in the match he can beat Novak too.

Djokovic is just a little better in almost every category than Murray. Unless he's got some new strategy (more trips to net; attack Djokovic's 2nd serve), Murray will get ground down in a similar fashion to most of the recent H2H.
 

Slice'n'dice

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Total agreement.

I'd give Stan's power the slight edge. But if Fed is serving well and gets up in the match he can beat Novak too.

Djokovic is just a little better in almost every category than Murray. Unless he's got some new strategy (more trips to net; attack Djokovic's 2nd serve), Murray will get ground down in a similar fashion to most of the recent H2H.
I don't think Stan's getting to Fed, let alone Djokovic. All signs a pointing to a Fed-Djoker final at the moment, but it could all change. But I just don't think Wawrinka will find his best form this tournament. He's not as good on the faster courts either in general anyway.
 

veroniquem

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I don't agree. Murray is the man who can stop Novak first and foremost. Tsonga would have an outside chance at best.
 
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Stan doesn't look in such a great form though.
He still has ideal draw to get into quarters and remind me what happened the last time these two played at USO since you refer to Berdych beating Federer.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
He still has ideal draw to get into quarters and remind me what happened the last time these two played at USO since you refer to Berdych beating Federer.
Stan's form was so much better in 2013. He almost beat Djoko that year. This year, he peaked at RG. Right now, he doesn't impress and Murray has been very consistent on hard this season (reaching lots of finals or only losing to Fed/Djoko)
 
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Stan's form was so much better in 2013. He almost beat Djoko that year. This year, he peaked at RG. Right now, he doesn't impress and Murray has been very consistent on hard this season (reaching lots of finals or only losing to Fed/Djoko)
Murray was pushed to five already. He isn't exactly looking stellar so far. And Stan gets up for Big Four slam matches. So no foregone conclusion.
 

3fees

G.O.A.T.
The only man that can stop Djokovic is Djokovic ,one loss here and there is meaningless. I'll even go further He is the player of the year acknowledged by all ATP Tennis Pro's, already.

2nd is between Federer and Murray and which one of these ATP Tennis Pro's make it to the finals bags 2nd place player of the year.

Cheers

3fees :)
 
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Krish872007

G.O.A.T.
What path? Murray has a super easy quarter. Fed could lose to Berd before even making the semi. This is hard, not grass.
As much as I'm backing Murray, the fact that he stumbled in his 2nd round match isn't particularly inspiring. Apparently he's been ill as well. If both Wawrinka and Federer hold up their ends of the bargain for the Quarters/Semis, I like his chances even less. He's 0-7 combined against them in recent meetings, having only won 1 set total across all surfaces.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
As much as I'm backing Murray, the fact that he stumbled in his 2nd round match isn't particularly inspiring. Apparently he's been ill as well. If both Wawrinka and Federer hold up their ends of the bargain for the Quarters/Semis, I like his chances even less. He's 0-7 combined against them in recent meetings, having only won 1 set total across all surfaces.
I didn't know he was ill. What's wrong with him?
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
The chances of Tsonga beating Djokovic are slim to nil. The only players who can stop Djokovic in this draw are Wawrinka, Federer or Murray depending on which one gets to the final.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
What path? Murray has a super easy quarter. Fed could lose to Berd before even making the semi. This is hard, not grass.
I don't think Federer will lose to Berdych or Murray. When was the last time Federer lost to either? I think it will probably be a Djokovic-Federer final.
 

Sysyphus

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I don't think Fed will have to play Berdych. I see Gasquet beating the bird man.
Very good point. Gasquet could very well end the run of Berdman. Berd hasn't been at his finest for a while, and Gasquet has been showing some very nice tennis since at least RG (and maybe longer?). Berd struggled with GGL today, and Gasquet is in some ways GGL 2.0, better suited for faster surfaces. That said, Berdych won their last two hardcourt meetings (dubai 15, Shanghai 14) in very dominant fashion. So it's an interesting match.

As for Fed, he shamelessly toyed with Berd during their two (?) meetings this year. So no guarantee that he'll get flustered like 2012.


I didn't know he was ill. What's wrong with him?
A potentially life-threatening case of posterior feditis, or so the rumors say.
 

vanioMan

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Tsonga deserves a tslam. The moral tsampion.
With all due respect to Muhammad Ali, I think that a full-blown Whirlwind Barbarianrinka with maxed-out Shout, Battle Orders and Racquet Mastery will have an even better chance to rip through Necromancerovic's Bone Armor, smash down his Bone Wall and handle his Skeletal Mages (read MTO doctors) with ease. However, the conditions may play a huge role in this potential 1v1. We'll have to see whether these two will clash at Dark Wood, Dry Hills or Frigid Highlands.

If BreathOfTheDyingrinka shows up, then Necrovic might consider using Corpse Explosion on somebody from the crowd to have a shot, otherwise it's GG no re.
 

Sysyphus

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With all due respect to Muhammad Ali, I think that a full-blown Whirlwind Barbarianrinka with maxed-out Shout, Battle Orders and Racquet Mastery will have an even better chance to rip through Necromancerovic's Bone Armor, smash down his Bone Wall and handle his Skeletal Mages (read MTO doctors) with ease. However, the conditions may play a huge role in this potential 1v1. We'll have to see whether these two will clash at Dark Wood, Dry Hills or Frigid Highlands.

If BreathOfTheDyingrinka shows up, then Necrovic might consider using Corpse Explosion on somebody from the crowd to have a shot, otherwise it's GG no re.
Under normal circumstances I would agree: Stanimal Waronka would have excellent chances at brutalizing Djovak. However, Waronka seems to have taken some damage to his steel armor after being viciously sledged by Kyrgios's mighty sword. A path of Murgray and Feder would therefore be tough for this Waronka. If, by some stroke of magic, he navigates through the draw and plays himself into form, then he will indeed have his chances!

Praise be on Muhammed Ali, praise be on Waronka!
 

okdude1992

Hall of Fame
I'd like to see Jo at least make it to Novak. Will boost his ranking to where it should be. And he has a small chance IMO unlike everybody else on that side of the draw.
 

Slice'n'dice

Hall of Fame
If Tsonga comes with his shirt tucked in, Djokovic might as well retire before the match even starts. Tucked-in Tsonga is tennis at its summit.

I would also like to remind people of their last encounter, which was on courts similar to these. 6-2 6-2.


Love that celebration, his normal one is pretty excellent too to be honest. Would love to see him doing that after playing the Djoker. It'd be a big surprise though. Who knew that all he has to do is tuck his shirt in. His coaches should really inform him of this. The single most important thing to mention to him and they haven't, damn fools.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think Fed will have to play Berdych. I see Gasquet beating the bird man.
I think this could happen as well tbh. I like the Tsonga shout out too. He's a bit forgotten in this tournament so far. Not to mention the defending champion Cilic, but I would like to see a Tsonga-Novak SF. Cilic is a bit too robotic for me and he's even more likely than Tsonga to get creamed by Novak.
 
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