Clemson_tennis
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Yeah Baylor is not very strong this year. Could very well end up 5th in the Big 12. Oklahoma and Texas Tech are better
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Hot from the press...
“I’ve gone down to L.A. many times in my years as a coach and at times we’ve gotten blasted down there, but then we still beat them in the NCAA Tournament,” Whitlinger said with a smile. “So whatever happened, there is still a long way to go before the NCAAs.”
yeah, right...
“I’ve gone down to L.A. many times in my years as a coach and at times we’ve gotten blasted down there, but then we still beat them in the NCAA Tournament,” Whitlinger said with a smile. “So whatever happened, there is still a long way to go before the NCAAs.”
yeah, right...Hot from the press...
“I’ve gone down to L.A. many times in my years as a coach and at times we’ve gotten blasted down there, but then we still beat them in the NCAA Tournament,” Whitlinger said with a smile. “So whatever happened, there is still a long way to go before the NCAAs.”
How many times has Whitlinger beaten USC in the NCAAs? He makes it seem like at least a couple times in this quote, but hasn't he only been the coach for six or seven years?
Well, at least he's saying the right things I suppose.
edit - just read his bio for a refresher course on his history, hadn't realized he served under the Gould era...I guess he's mostly referring to those great years...maybe he should stop riding Gould's coattails and try to stop the bleeding that has been occurring in Palo Alto ever since that man left and he took over
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I'm with you on this.. I think when Stanford plays USC the time , with both teams carrying a full line up.. Stanford will come out on top ,if they start the doubles first and their success in doubles may carry the momentum onto the singles play.. I see USC,Stanford,and UCLA trading off wins this year and next.. Pac 10(12) looks very interesting for the future ,I don't see USC dominating..
I never thought I would say that, but for once I agree with what you said. Dick was THE man! Whit has always, and still is, in his shadow. I really think this team has great potential and should do better than what they produce. Dick wasn't a great technician but he knew how to motivate his players and make them win.
Something struck me when watching the USC match on Saturday: USc's coaches were all over, motivating their players after nearly every point. Where were the Stanford coaches? Nowhere to be seen when their men needed them. That may sound harsh and incorrect, but that's how it looked in comparison to the great coaching of USC during the match.
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Yes, some may forget but these 3 are by far the most dominant teams in the NCAAs.
USC-UCLA starting up at USC. Live video but still a non-working scoreboard at USC.
UCLA lineup looks 100% healthy, while USC is missing only Lucassen at the bottom of the lineup, and I don't think he would start in doubles.
UCLA lineup looks 100% healthy, while USC is missing only Lucassen at the bottom of the lineup, and I don't think he would start in doubles.
Fedace
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they really improved the video feed screen. is Jack Sock gonna play at USC ?
i think USC is really going to put the hurt on UCLA in this one - 5-2ish, maybe 6-1...as much credit as I give UCLA for being as good as they have been this season despite the loss of Meister, I think their ranking is quite a bit too high right now...just don't see them in the same second tier (aka not quite UVA and Tenn.) that I'd say USC is in
Fedace
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After Jack Sock joins Stanford next year, we will beat these teams in less than an hour.
After Jack Sock joins Stanford next year, we will beat these teams in less than an hour.
haha you might need Sock to compete with UCLA next yr...Meister will be back and a nasty recruiting class to join their already young team
unfortunately his recruiting profile doesn't seem to be indicating much interest in playing for Whit
It is looking more like 4-3 USC.
#6 spot is tough for USC without Lucassen, and Nguyen is a great story and gutsy player but #2 is awfully challenging for him.
Clemson_tennis
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After Jack Sock joins Stanford next year, we will beat these teams in less than an hour.
I thought it was Tecas/Nebraska or pro for Sock
It is. Why would you think otherwise? No one with any credibility around here has said anything different.
Yeah, good effort by Inbar especially (I had him losing that match), but UCLA looks more like a 10-16 team to me this year. That match didn't do much to change my mind.
Clemson_tennis
Legend
UCLA needs to get an international ringer like Gomez in order to contend again.
I wouldn't say "easily". Even with Johnson beating Klahn last week 2 & 3, these matches are a lot closer than the scores suggest, even being 1-2 breaks. Matches can be based off only a few points here and there.
Don't know what's going on with Baylor this year, they refused to go to Indoors I can only assume in hopes of not going 0-3 like last year. USC could easily have run away as well without Lucassen & Sarmiento, and almost did go 0-3.
Clemson_tennis
Legend
Poldma playing davis cup this weekend. Lost to Berankis 7-6 6-2 6-3
Llompart of Pepperdine also playing
Llompart of Pepperdine also playing
That's not a bad result against a very strong opponent!
In the Gould championship years, I heard Whit did all the technical work in practice and coaching and Gould did all the recruiting and motivation. That was their strength in addition to a friendlier admission's policy to athletes.
I wouldn't be surprised. But how do you know they had a friendlier admission's policy? That's also what I heard, but do you have any source?
lol at stanford trying to stack to get this win
kandath over hirshman is a complete joke...even stanford fans have been saying hirshman is pretty much a rock at 5 singles while kandath has been terrible at 6
edit: thought doubles switch was pretty questionable too, but after review of results so far this year, eh, i guess that could be legit
kandath over hirshman is a complete joke...even stanford fans have been saying hirshman is pretty much a rock at 5 singles while kandath has been terrible at 6
edit: thought doubles switch was pretty questionable too, but after review of results so far this year, eh, i guess that could be legit
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i was looking at the live blog (http://www.baylorbears.com/blog/in_match_tennis.html) and the latest user comment reminded me of fedace. wouldn't really surprise me if it was actually him. all it needs is the classic
here's the comment: 7:23
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Why is stanford losing to inferior team ? Is this HP cup some kind of curse ???
here's the comment: 7:23
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Why is stanford losing to inferior team ? Is this HP cup some kind of curse ???
another failed Fedace prediction, another loss for Klahn...yawn
Stanford got crushed, 4-1, might even be 6-1 when all is said and done
my predictions are much better Feddie-boy...remember this from a couple months ago that all you fanboys laughed at?:
Predictions: Stanford starts losing A LOT in February and March and by April has no claim of being a top ten team.
2/12 - Cal - possible loss
2/18 - Indoors - losing will be a theme all weekend
2/25 - UCLA - possible/probable loss
2/26 - USC - loss
3/22 - Baylor - loss
3/25 - USC - loss
3/26 - UCLA - possible/probable loss
I look forward to you Stanford fanboys dragging this post up if I am proven horribly wrong
so basically I've been totally correct so far...UCLA match didn't happen, and I didn't indicate Cal as "probable" so that's a push
Clemson_tennis
Legend
Yikes, Stanford was beaten like a drum. 4 straight set losses. Can't believe the great Clayton lost to Sergio Ramirez
Clemson_tennis
Legend
and got straight setted by an unranked player. or do you just ingore the results on the court?
Fedace
Banned
Clayton will be top 50 in ATP when he graduates so yes, i agree.
Clemson_tennis
Legend
I'm sorry this is just laughable. What exactly has he done to indicate that he is a ATP top 50 caliber player? Even the most elite college players have trouble maing the top 50 or even top 100. Look at Robert Farah, started strong but has leveled off in the pros since. Clayton has regressed each year at Stanford. There was once a time when he was a top college player but has steadily dropped. He is now #93 and losing to players outised the top 125 in college. Do you expect him to suddenly find the form he once had as a teenager? He has beaten nobody of consequence this year. Got owned by Poldma twice and Poldma is not an ATP top 300 player more than likely.
Clayton will probably quit tennis when he graduates. He got offered a job at Goldman Sachs so top 50 might be hard :???:
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Given Clayton's results the past two years, the Goldman Sachs position would be a far more lucrative move.
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i agree completely. as i have stated over & over again, not one college player in recent memory has made it at the pro level other then Blake & Isner. i would like anyone on these boards to name a recent or current college player player who has/will make more in one year on tour then Alex will in his first year at GS...let's guess he will make about $2ooK ?
a bunch of folks on these boards always talk about this guy and that guy being a good pro or being ruined by going to play for that coach, it is all a bunch of hogwash. Fish & Diaz are the only coaches i know that have had kids excell (make real money & have a ranking better then 50)in tennis beyond there college careers. somewhere in one of these threads recently i read about the UVA coach letting his future pro players play in pro events & missing team event & that it is part of his recruiting tactic. it may well be, however, i wonder when and if these kids and the parents will realize that college tennis hasn't been a breeding ground for the pros since Dick Gould @ Stanford. tennis is different these days, scholarships are different. i guess my point is _ if your are a high level junior, go to the best university that you can, with a coach that will get you ready for real life & if a pro career happens it happens.
Clemson_tennis
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That's exactly right matchplay. The top college players who desire to go pro must be happy with a career bouncing around in the 100-200 range. Very few have the special talent to be the exception to this rule. Pro tennis is just another world.
Look at Domijan. Destroying people in college and was dismissed by Julian Reister like he was just another routine win, and Reister isn't anything special.
Look at Domijan. Destroying people in college and was dismissed by Julian Reister like he was just another routine win, and Reister isn't anything special.
exactly my point Clemson, among the many others made
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Somdev Devvarman just moved to up to #73 and has made over $120K so far this year. Since it isn't quite April yet and, if he continues his play, he should be well over $200K by year end. Also, I'm not sure whether a guy like that has much in sponsorships to add to the total?
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Somdev hasa chance to do it & i hope he does, as i have heard only good things about him, his work ethic and his personality. figure after expenses, he will have to make $350K ___ if 4 other names come up it would surprise me.....David from USC may be able do it as well-
the point(s) of my post go beyond this though.
i should have been more clear on my original post, i was referring to US kids,
Fedace
Banned
They need a ringer for their 4.0 men's tennis team. ?
Clemson_tennis
Legend
Cal beat UCLA 4-3. Cal edged doubles in an etremely close doubles point. Then the two teams split blowout singles matches
Fedace
Banned
Men's team bows to make a strong finish with NCAA championship title.
Latest from the Stanford press room:
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MEN'S TEAM
After facing three top-20 opponents over a five-day stretch last week, Stanford (9-5, 1-1 Pac-10) is preparing for a 10-day stretch that features five more nationally-ranked squads.
Stanford dropped four spots in the latest edition of the ITA national rankings and now checks in at No. 12. It's the lowest the Cardinal has been ranked all year, having alternated between No. 7 and No. 8 ever since the dual match campaign kicked off in January.
All things considered, that's still a tough way to drop four spots. Stanford's losses last week came on the road against No. 16 Baylor and at home against defending NCAA champion and No. 3 USC (which Stanford has already beaten once this year).
But Stanford rebounded in a big way 24 hours later, posting a decisive 6-1 victory over No. 13 UCLA.
So Stanford stands at 1-1 in league play and will travel to Arizona on Sunday, Apr. 3, for its next league contest. Leading up to that match is a 5 p.m. tilt against No. 31 Tulsa on Friday, Apr. 1, representing the nightcap of a doubleheader with the women's team.
Greg Hirshman continues to be automatic when it comes to dual matches. A fixture in the lower half of Stanford's lineup, the senior leads Stanford in dual match victories (12) and is 8-2 over his last 10 matches overall. He has been especially tough when playing at the No. 5 spot (9-2 overall).
On the doubles side, Stanford's top pairing of Bradley Klahn and Ryan Thacher continues to cruise along. In addition to having not lost a match since Feb. 20, Klahn and Thacher are 27-4 overall and riding an eight-match winning streak. The duo is 7-4 against nationally-ranked opponents.
Three Stanford players are ranked in singles this week: Klahn (11), Thacher (32) and Alex Clayton (60). Two doubles teams are ranked: Klahn/Thacher (6) and Clayton/Ted Kelly (67).
Latest from the Stanford press room:
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MEN'S TEAM
After facing three top-20 opponents over a five-day stretch last week, Stanford (9-5, 1-1 Pac-10) is preparing for a 10-day stretch that features five more nationally-ranked squads.
Stanford dropped four spots in the latest edition of the ITA national rankings and now checks in at No. 12. It's the lowest the Cardinal has been ranked all year, having alternated between No. 7 and No. 8 ever since the dual match campaign kicked off in January.
All things considered, that's still a tough way to drop four spots. Stanford's losses last week came on the road against No. 16 Baylor and at home against defending NCAA champion and No. 3 USC (which Stanford has already beaten once this year).
But Stanford rebounded in a big way 24 hours later, posting a decisive 6-1 victory over No. 13 UCLA.
So Stanford stands at 1-1 in league play and will travel to Arizona on Sunday, Apr. 3, for its next league contest. Leading up to that match is a 5 p.m. tilt against No. 31 Tulsa on Friday, Apr. 1, representing the nightcap of a doubleheader with the women's team.
Greg Hirshman continues to be automatic when it comes to dual matches. A fixture in the lower half of Stanford's lineup, the senior leads Stanford in dual match victories (12) and is 8-2 over his last 10 matches overall. He has been especially tough when playing at the No. 5 spot (9-2 overall).
On the doubles side, Stanford's top pairing of Bradley Klahn and Ryan Thacher continues to cruise along. In addition to having not lost a match since Feb. 20, Klahn and Thacher are 27-4 overall and riding an eight-match winning streak. The duo is 7-4 against nationally-ranked opponents.
Three Stanford players are ranked in singles this week: Klahn (11), Thacher (32) and Alex Clayton (60). Two doubles teams are ranked: Klahn/Thacher (6) and Clayton/Ted Kelly (67).
EdgeTennis
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I still think its ridiculous that Arizona State Univ doesnt have a mens team.
Fedace
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Tulsa will feel the wraith of the Cardinal today.
http://www.streamingtennis.com/Cardinal/livescoreboard1.html
http://www.streamingtennis.com/Cardinal/livescoreboard1.html
Clemson_tennis
Legend
O it is. They had a top 30 team recently. I remember seeing them come to Clemson a few years ago(played South Alabama in a tournament back when Clemson used to have the clout to host those things)
Do you mean wrath? Or are the Stanford players like the ring-wraiths in the Lord of the Rings?
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