Good comment. One interesting aspect of Big 3 rivalry is they've all had to cope with a struggle to some extent, Fed with his temperament, Nadal with his body and Djoko with having to come from behind.
I wonder if people identify with whichever one seems closest to their own struggles in life?
@PMChambers I agree. The big four are absolute zombies in their public personalities compared to truly defined personalities of the past (good or bad) like Connors, Mac, Lendl, Agassi, Becker, Cash, Yannick Noah and countless others. Even the "boring" personalities of Edberg or Pete were offset magnificently by rivalries with colorful guys like Boris or Andre.I don't find any of the big 3 as exciting as late 70 through to 90s. Their games are bigger but their personalities cardboard.
Trying to be considerate and respectful as a public figure means you are a well-intentioned, polite person. Throwing temper tantrums and shading/insulting rivals in press conferences is a sign of being infantile, not colorful.@PMChambers I agree. The big four are absolute zombies in their public personalities compared to truly defined personalities of the past (good or bad) like Connors, Mac, Lendl, Agassi, Becker, Cash, Yannick Noah and countless others. Even the "boring" personalities of Edberg or Pete were offset magnificently by rivalries with colorful guys like Boris or Andre.
It's all vanilla now because of social media, PC constraints and all that crap.
Novak Djokovic.
Serbian Defiance.
It don't get no better than that.
The thing about Jordan is that apart from his immense talent he had a competitive drive which was second to none. If someone beat him or even thought that he could beat him he took this as a challenge and raised his level in the most crucial moments. It is not a coincidence that he was 6-0 in finals, was named finals mvp in all of them and dominated all his peers. If somebody actually beat him he went home, practiced even harder and came back stronger than before. In the long run nobody could ever dominate him. This is the x-factor I felt when watching him that even when his outstanding talent was seriously challenged his will and determination would allow him to raise his game even more whenever necessary. The only other “sportsman” (if you want to call chess a sport) i know with such a boundless will to win would be Gary Kasparov. Roger Federer? Not at all.One Roger Federer... and it's not even close!
And I can't really explain it either. I can appreciate many sports stars from different sports, but the attachment to the old man is something else. He seems to hit all the notes, on every level. The only other star that I felt something remotely similar for was Michael Jordan. It's a VERY special 'x-factor' that I rarely see. Hard to explain. It just is.![]()
Good comment. One interesting aspect of Big 3 rivalry is they've all had to cope with a struggle to some extent, Fed with his temperament, Nadal with his body and Djoko with having to come from behind.
I wonder if people identify with whichever one seems closest to their own struggles in life?
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You might be right.
I consider myself to be less talented but more disciplined and hardworking (professional life ) .
Novak's transformation (diet and Physical prowess) is indeed a result of discipline and routine..
I like when less talented/less fortunate people have a chance to shine too..
That is a reason I now like Kevin Anderson bcoz he tries to fight with whatever he is gifted with, and refuses to lose.. He tries his very best.
The tennis world is mired in GOAT debates and understandably so, gets heated and bitter at times.
This is a different kind of ‘GOAT’ poll, where the facts and figures don’t matter - at least not as far as in trying to convince others, but about what (or rather who) is dear to YOU.
It could be their style of game, the personality they brought to the sport, their success on court, shared citizenship, physical attributes or just as simple as someone you watched growing up.
The only criteria is that you have to be convinced that this the player that gave you the most joy. Titles don’t matter nor length of career. Neither slam count nor H2Hs. Just pure and simple sustained emotional joy and happiness. That’s the only honesty needed for this thread.
So go on and vote for your choice. Share with us your feelings. Tell us what made you or makes you keep coming back to this player.
Yes, it is inherently unfair because it’s NOT about stats or figures. The poll is also skewed towards the last 20-30 years of male players. Sorry if your player is not on the poll. But if you fav is an exception go on and help us appreciate them in the comments; what they mean to you.
And keep it classy folks.![]()
I missed all of Fed's early slams!![]()
This has been a really nice idea for a thread - lovely to get away from people bashing each other with statistics and weak eras.
I must admit I've always thought of Djokovic fans as beingpeople who really would value technical excellence over the messy sporting soap opera that is Fedal. It's great to understand that people can have an emotional attachment to Djokovic as well.
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Obvious one for me. 2nd would be Tsonga or Wawrinka, because of their immense talent and unbeatable peak levels.The tennis world is mired in GOAT debates and understandably so, gets heated and bitter at times.
This is a different kind of ‘GOAT’ poll, where the facts and figures don’t matter - at least not as far as in trying to convince others, but about what (or rather who) is dear to YOU.
It could be their style of game, the personality they brought to the sport, their success on court, shared citizenship, physical attributes or just as simple as someone you watched growing up.
The only criteria is that you have to be convinced that this the player that gave you the most joy. Titles don’t matter nor length of career. Neither slam count nor H2Hs. Just pure and simple sustained emotional joy and happiness. That’s the only honesty needed for this thread.
So go on and vote for your choice. Share with us your feelings. Tell us what made you or makes you keep coming back to this player.
Yes, it is inherently unfair because it’s NOT about stats or figures. The poll is also skewed towards the last 20-30 years of male players. Sorry if your player is not on the poll. But if you fav is an exception go on and help us appreciate them in the comments; what they mean to you.
And keep it classy folks.![]()
Berdych, 2010.Soderling, 2009.
You're not the only one. But I did have a baby in 2004!!
I was actually on maternity leave during Wimbledon - I must have watched more of that tournament than any other and now cannot recall a single thing about it.
The thing about Jordan is that apart from his immense talent he had a competitive drive which was second to none. If someone beat him or even thought that he could beat him he took this as a challenge and raised his level in the most crucial moments. It is not a coincidence that he was 6-0 in finals, was named finals mvp in all of them and dominated all his peers. If somebody actually beat him he went home, practiced even harder and came back stronger than before. In the long run nobody could ever dominate him. This is the x-factor I felt when watching him that even when his outstanding talent was seriously challenged his will and determination would allow him to raise his game even more whenever necessary. The only other “sportsman” (if you want to call chess a sport) i know with such a boundless will to win would be Gary Kasparov. Roger Federer? Not at all.