The pressure is on Nadal. I don't even want to think about it

Roger said once his overall confidence flows mostly from his service success--when he is serving well, the rest of his game seems to fall into place. Rafa has read Roger's serve better than anyone. Did Rafa ever lead the tour in breaking serves? Maybe, but he certainly seems to have prioritized figuring out Federer's. He's been jumping all over Roger's serve longer than anyone has. Then there's the robotic certitude with which Rafa's always hammering away at Federer's back hand. However successful that tactic was, it actually bored many tennis fans, myself included; but that's not so important. What is, however, is that Rafa and Toni appear to have keenly studied Roger's game with the sole aim of Rafa becoming Roger's kryptonite. More importantly, I believe this aim was, for a very long time, much higher on their list of priorities than developing Rafa's game such that he might start contesting non-clay slams better. I wonder whether Toni and Rafa thought things out any further than how best to expose Federer. But I wonder, if now the hour is not just a little too late for them to see through the amount of development that he would need to make in order to hang with Novak. Novak seems poised to grab the #1 ranking and hold onto it for so long that by the time he relinquished it, Rafa's window for playing at extremely high levels, based on his great physicality and the aura that he has been able to project--which, arguably, he earned mostly for being the guy who showed everyone that Roger could be mastered--will have closed on Rafa by the time Novak has finally sated his appetite for being #1. I believe that Rafa's role in tennis history was to expose Federer's game, and now that he has played his part, the stage belongs to Novak. Strange as this may sound, Rafa now seems less motivated and slower afoot that there is no Federer in the picture, no all consuming goal to gnaw on.


i agree wholeheartedly. when somebody is dominating or has a lot of power there will always be that one guy who is put on this earth just to teach him a lesson that he aint God. Goliath had David. Alexander had Porus. Borg had Mcenroe. Sampras had Agassi. And Rafa was that guy to Roger. Now that Novak is dominating the scene i have a feeling that Murray will be that thorn who is gonna mess with him soon.
 

Tammo

Banned
All Djokovic needs to do is reach the final to get thenumber 1 ranking. Djokovis is defending a quarter-final and Nadal is defending the title, so Nadal can win the final against Djokovic but would still lose the ranking.
 

cknobman

Legend
All Djokovic needs to do is reach the final to get thenumber 1 ranking. Djokovis is defending a quarter-final and Nadal is defending the title, so Nadal can win the final against Djokovic but would still lose the ranking.

I think this is the most telling fact of them all. The fact that Djoker does not even need to win the title to take #1 does take quite a bit of pressure off of him (granted that he isnt feeling too much pressure these next couple of matches trying to break the win streak record)..

Nadal is feeling all the pressure knowing his #1 ranking is on the line. I would think its pretty apparent after seeing his first 2 rounds here in Paris. His confidence seems kinda low and if it had not been for monumental chocking from Andujar in that 3rd set yesterday Nadal would have had to go at least 4 sets.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
So, is the pressure still on?

Of course. Nadal is 1 match away from winning his 6th French Open title and retaining the number 1 ranking until at least the end of Wimbledon. If he loses the final, he would lose the number 1 ranking to Djokovic and would still be 1 French Open title behind Borg. There is pressure.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Of course. Nadal is 1 match away from winning his 6th French Open title and retaining the number 1 ranking until at least the end of Wimbledon. If he loses the final, he would lose the number 1 ranking to Djokovic and would still be 1 French Open title behind Borg. There is pressure.

I so hope, 24 hours from now, Rafa is falling on the clay in joy.
 

martini1

Hall of Fame
Even in FO, the pressure is always on Fed. Yes, he will do it to himself because he thinks he should beat Rafa, and his fans expects him to beat Rafa.

And Rafa already got the game plan worked out pretty well so far.It is Fed that needs to come up with the game plan to beat Rafa on clay.
 

cocolate

Banned
Even in FO, the pressure is always on Fed. Yes, he will do it to himself because he thinks he should beat Rafa, and his fans expects him to beat Rafa.

And Rafa already got the game plan worked out pretty well so far.It is Fed that needs to come up with the game plan to beat Rafa on clay.

Nadal has no game plan....he always goes moonball to backhand..and when this didn't work with djokovic...you see what happened...Rafa didn't win anything this year when he played Djokovic!
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal has no game plan....he always goes moonball to backhand..and when this didn't work with djokovic...you see what happened...Rafa didn't win anything this year when he played Djokovic!

Correct, Rafa will play the same style...camping on the deuce side and hitting 85% of his fh. Playing against Fed he will even go further to Roger's bh. He doesn't need any advice or a coach to prepare him for Sunday.

The pressure is on Nadal:

1. Tying Borg's record
2. Retain #1 ranking
3. Clear favorite
4. Overcome obnoxious french crowd
5. He's in his prime(not Roger)
6. His best surface(Roger's worst)
7. Has more to prove(Roger's accomplishments is fulfilled)
 

Omega_7000

Legend
I so hope, 24 hours from now, Rafa is falling on the clay in joy.

Wait a minute. I thought you were supporting Fed in the Djoko-Fed semi because Fed was the underdog and you were sick of seeing everyone calling him the favorite giving Fed no chance etc.

It's the same situation here...Fed is being given no chance against Nadal...and Nadal is considered to be the fav in the final...So shouldn't you be supporting Fed? Or was I right & you just want Fed to do the dirty work for Nadal by getting rid of Djokovic? :oops:
 

martini1

Hall of Fame
Nadal has no game plan....he always goes moonball to backhand..and when this didn't work with djokovic...you see what happened...Rafa didn't win anything this year when he played Djokovic!

That is a game plan my friend... not the most complicated one but hell it worked.
 

Ralph

Hall of Fame
Wait a minute. I thought you were supporting Fed in the Djoko-Fed semi because Fed was the underdog and you were sick of seeing everyone calling him the favorite giving Fed no chance etc.

It's the same situation here...Fed is being given no chance against Nadal...and Nadal is considered to be the fav in the final...So shouldn't you be supporting Fed? Or was I right & you just want Fed to do the dirty work for Nadal by getting rid of Djokovic? :oops:

In fairness to MN, I think he did state this somewhere openly in another thread, that he'd be happy for Federer to take out Nole. Or am I mistaken?
 

martini1

Hall of Fame
Correct, Rafa will play the same style...camping on the deuce side and hitting 85% of his fh. Playing against Fed he will even go further to Roger's bh. He doesn't need any advice or a coach to prepare him for Sunday.

The pressure is on Nadal:

1. Tying Borg's record
2. Retain #1 ranking
3. Clear favorite
4. Overcome obnoxious french crowd
5. He's in his prime(not Roger)
6. His best surface(Roger's worst)
7. Has more to prove(Roger's accomplishments is fulfilled)

Well we all know the crowd will cheer for Fed, just like the last 3 times they played. Rafa will stick to the way he played just like before. Fed needed to find a new game plan. Mentally that is a big task.
 
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Deleted member 3771

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Correct, Rafa will play the same style...camping on the deuce side and hitting 85% of his fh. Playing against Fed he will even go further to Roger's bh. He doesn't need any advice or a coach to prepare him for Sunday.

The pressure is on Nadal:

1. Tying Borg's record
2. Retain #1 ranking
3. Clear favorite
4. Overcome obnoxious french crowd
5. He's in his prime(not Roger)
6. His best surface(Roger's worst)
7. Has more to prove(Roger's accomplishments is fulfilled)

8/ And his GOAT status is riding on this. 6 slam final wins v Fred will push him over the line.
 
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Deleted member 3771

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He will be edging closer to Borg.

Theres a lot more riding on this than just equalling Borg's 6th. Whoever wins this match will probably be considered the best of this era, and the leading candidate for GOAT out of the players of this era.

Clay is currently Fed's best surface, as it's the first slam final he has made in the last 5 slams, and he's just dropped 1 set. Grass may be Rafa's best surface now.
 
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Smasher08

Legend
Fed's the underdog, no two ways about it. Just like vs Djoker yesterday.

Far less pressure on him than on Rafa. And I can see him being just as hungry as vs Djoker.
 
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Sentinel

Bionic Poster
The pressure's back on, folks. Is this what you call the Channel Slam, Jackson ?
(I mean like is there a trans-atlantic and trans-pacific slam too for WO-USO, and USO-AO. I thought not).

Or i guess with Noel meeting Fred there's no pressure, unless .... Fred gets taken out earlier.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
There's no reason not to,he's playing his best tennis ever,he's the man to beat on every surface at the moment.
Absolutely.It would be really something though,if Nadal gets beaten playing his best tennis.He's cashing in too much on this 'weak era' of tennis :wink:
 
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viduka0101

Hall of Fame
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Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I believe Rafa is going to win this Wimbledon and this USO.
I think he'll keep it up at least until the next FO. Five in a row. And the Olympics -- that goes without saying.

Fifteen by next year, I should think, with enough to spare to reach 20 before he hangs the towel.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Absolutely.It would be really something though,if Nadal got beaten playing his best tennis.He's cashing in too much on this 'weak era' of tennis :wink:

Yes,yes if Nadal fails to win Wimbledon and USO this year it would mean he finally got some competition instead of taking advantage of baby Novak and 1st time slam finalists like he did last year.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Yes,yes if Nadal fails to win Wimbledon and USO this year it would mean he finally got some competition instead of taking advantage of baby Novak and 1st time slam finalists like he did last year.
It could also mean he tired, no?

Schedool vely hevvy.

Changed your siggie, zaggie ?
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
It could also mean he tired, no?

Schedool vely hevvy.

Changed your siggie, zaggie ?

How can he be tired? He's only 25 and is widely considered to be one of the most fit tennis players ever,a real unstoppable beast on court as his fans would say.

Schedule may indeed be heavy but as long as he doesn't play doubles and mixed doubles in every HC tourney he plays this year he should be fine.

Yes I changed my sig,recently I caught Scarface on telly again so it stuck with me a bit.
 

BULLZ1LLA

Banned
(Check out my avatar it has Rafa's US Open shoe. Imagine if he wins Wimbledon and the US Open, then we get months of RAFA SLAM speculation again :p)
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
(Check out my avatar it has Rafa's US Open shoe. Imagine if he wins Wimbledon and the US Open, then we get months of RAFA SLAM speculation again :p)
(That would be fantastic, really. But that again puts pressure of Rafa which is not good since it disturbs Mixiep a lot. )
 

BULLZ1LLA

Banned
(Sentinel you should never put a full-stop next to a bracket. And ksbh that 2nd bracket should be after the quote box. I seem to be the only person good at brackets)
 

BULLZ1LLA

Banned
You ought to be, you use them all the time.

(Thanks, plus I designed half the rules. Before I came along people didn't even include pictures or quote boxes in brackets. Just to stay on topic, I think Rafa really enjoys pressure. He was ranked and seeded number one when he won the 2009 Australian Open and 2010 US Open. And the pressure on him at the US Open was huge because of that Career Grand Slam conquest. I was also impressed at the 2011 Australian Open when under the freakish pressure of THE RAFA SLAM, Rafa didn't drop a set until the QF injury)
 

ksbh

Banned
Bull ... blame it on the forum. The maximum allowed size for brackets is the one you see in my post, so that's hardly my fault! :)

(Sentinel you should never put a full-stop next to a bracket. And ksbh that 2nd bracket should be after the quote box. I seem to be the only person good at brackets)
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
(Sentinel you should never put a full-stop next to a bracket. And ksbh that 2nd bracket should be after the quote box. I seem to be the only person good at brackets)
(Thanks, bro. ksbh was using a different dialect of (), so it's okay.)

I get nervous every time I see this thread coming up again.
(Sorry, then we won't bump this thread at all. You need some relaxation techniques, isn't that CHI stuff working?)
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Now i think the pressure is totally off Nadal. With his fake injury, he has assured he can easily win the final, sans pressure.
 

rafabull

Semi-Pro
Now i think the pressure is totally off Nadal. With his fake injury, he has assured he can easily win the final, sans pressure.

All Nadal haters look for any excuse supporting that his wins are not legit. Sure, a fake injury will affect the outcome of a match a week from now?
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
All Nadal haters look for any excuse supporting that his wins are not legit. Sure, a fake injury will affect the outcome of a match a week from now?
He could take more MTO's as per requirement. SOS, as the doctors say.

If he wins against Fish, it does mean the MTO against Delpo was faked, right? So the win against Delpo has a question mark, right ? So what follows has a question mark, right ?

¿Comprendes, amigo mío?
 

ViscaB

Hall of Fame
There is no pressure on Rafa. His main goal is to win RG each year. Mission accomplished already.
 

MixieP

Hall of Fame
There is no pressure on Rafa. His main goal is to win RG each year. Mission accomplished already.

I don't think Rafa is satisfied with winning the French Open. He needs more Wimbledon trophies to challenge Federer's status as the greatest player of all time. Otherwise Rafa may go down in history as a claycourt specialist.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
There is no pressure on Rafa. His main goal is to win RG each year. Mission accomplished already.
Raf sure is lucky that Fred keeps clearing the path for him.

I don't think Rafa is satisfied with winning the French Open. He needs more Wimbledon trophies to challenge Federer's status as the greatest player of all time. Otherwise Rafa may go down in history as a claycourt specialist.
Not to mention five WTF's.
 
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