The Prince Phantom 93P is a gift to us from TW - My Review/AMA

haqq777

Legend
My observation after few sessions on and off is that hyper G is a misfit in this racquet. It feels boardy/plasticky. I will try proline 2/RS Lyon @45 as a next attempt. I really like this setup on my Textreme Tour 95 and get plenty of power.
Like you, I also did not like Hyper-G in this frame. Too bad really because I thought the racquet looks amazing with green Wilson Pro OG and strings. Anyway, I am a big fan of RS Lyon full bed at 42lbs in both my 93P. Started at 45lbs and found 42lbs to really gel with my strokes in this frame. Also really liked gut/poly (Lux/RS Lyon) but changes feel quite a lot compared to full bed poly. Best of luck.
 
Like you, I also did not like Hyper-G in this frame. Too bad really because I thought the racquet looks amazing with green Wilson Pro OG and strings. Anyway, I am a big fan of RS Lyon full bed at 42lbs in both my 93P. Started at 45lbs and found 42lbs to really gel with my strokes in this frame. Also really liked gut/poly (Lux/RS Lyon) but changes feel quite a lot compared to full bed poly. Best of luck.
Completely makes sense. Infact couple of other members PMed me saying they felt exactly the same. So it's clear now that hyper g 17 is not a good option in this frame. Honestly becoz of this string I started thinking negatively about the frame. What is your tenstion with the gut poly? I have klip legend 16 that I can try...52/45?
 

Wick

New User
I have tried the Hyper-G @47 and I did not like it: were little power/penetration.

Does anyone use the X-One Biphase on the 93p? If yes, what tension do you suggest? Thanks!
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
How many here have replaced the beautiful Prince leather grip with a synthetic? I'm not good with wrapping grips or even overgrips and would hate to redo it if I ever want to go back to leather, but I need more cushioning. I already use full bed multi, but even with an OG, it's still doesn't feel as comfortable as a synthetic. I do like the feel of the bevels, especially with Prince's octagon shaped handles. Head's 2x4 block shaped handles are easier to orientate, but not Prince.
 

star544

New User
Hey guys, I love my Prince Thunder Rip 1200. I’m a pusher. Any new racquets similar?


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tomato123

Professional
Hey guys, I love my Prince Thunder Rip 1200. I’m a pusher. Any new racquets similar?


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That's the oversize version, correct? If you want to stick to Prince, the Beast 03 104, Warrior 107, or the ported Phantom 100 come to mind if you're just looking to get every ball back. My wife has a Phantom 100 and that racquet gets tons of brainless spin and produces loopy rainbow strokes where you just aim for big targets and the ball just drops in.
 
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rh310

Hall of Fame
I pull out my ported Phantom 100 and my 93P equally. I love the precision on the 93P that I don’t get with the 100. I love the comfort and the forgiveness in the 100.

For doubles matches I’m using the 93P, hands down the better racket. Just too accurate to leave in the bag. For singles I’ll still hop between the 100,93 and POG 107.

At the club championships I’m 3-1 with the 93P and 0-1 with the 100.
What's the level in the championships, if you don't mind -- and what's your playing style?
 

star544

New User
Guess you could say l’m more of a counter puncher, go for angles and not afraid to lob. Really not that good with soft shots or Topspin loops. 70 years or old Tennis. Always looking at racquets to improve my game but return to the Prince Thunder Rip. Maybe less pickle ball and more tennis.


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haqq777

Legend
Completely makes sense. Infact couple of other members PMed me saying they felt exactly the same. So it's clear now that hyper g 17 is not a good option in this frame. Honestly becoz of this string I started thinking negatively about the frame. What is your tenstion with the gut poly? I have klip legend 16 that I can try...52/45?
Yes, that's a good tension in my opinion as I had mine at 50/45 and felt great - I could even go a couple pounds looser if needed.

Also, since Klip Legend is clearly more powerful than Luxilon Natural Gut, the couple of pounds tighter tension in mains will suit the hybrid setup, in my opinion. I will recommend however that you keep poly at 45lbs or under so you don't start to get that boardier feel). It is a 93 after all with 18x20 patterm at the end of the day so I wouldn't string high tensions unless you like that kind of feedback.

I did snap my gut mains and reverted to full poly after that, but have no complaints with gut/poly hybrid with clean, crisp and comfortable feedback. The frame is really that good and fun to hit with.
 

haqq777

Legend
How many here have replaced the beautiful Prince leather grip with a synthetic? I'm not good with wrapping grips or even overgrips and would hate to redo it if I ever want to go back to leather, but I need more cushioning. I already use full bed multi, but even with an OG, it's still doesn't feel as comfortable as a synthetic. I do like the feel of the bevels, especially with Prince's octagon shaped handles. Head's 2x4 block shaped handles are easier to orientate, but not Prince.
Yes, switched to ResiPro when first got the racquet. Reverted to original leather because it just plays better that way. I also tried Wilson Shock Shield and didn't like mushiness. Hated the kinda numb and muted feedback even though balance remained same because SS is as heavy as leather. Original leather grip with a Wilson Pro works great for me. Right feel and comfort.
 

stephenclown

Professional
How many here have replaced the beautiful Prince leather grip with a synthetic? I'm not good with wrapping grips or even overgrips and would hate to redo it if I ever want to go back to leather, but I need more cushioning. I already use full bed multi, but even with an OG, it's still doesn't feel as comfortable as a synthetic. I do like the feel of the bevels, especially with Prince's octagon shaped handles. Head's 2x4 block shaped handles are easier to orientate, but not Prince.
I replaced the prince leather with an OEHMs tan leather because I like the feel a little more. I may try the prince one again as it is a bit thicker to the touch but not as supple. The leather keeps its shape a bit better so just wrap it in a circle and then tape around, shouldn't dry out at all if you want to put it back on, much easier to re-wrap a stock leather grip than a new leather grip. I put a black OEHMs leather grip on my PT600 and its nowhere near as good as the tan colour, quite disappointed.

Only issue I have is with large blisters on my knuckles, never had issues with other grip shapes, must rub on a separate part. I may try adding some width to the bevels again, last time it was too much but probably good with about half as much. Much prefer the babolat/wilson shape overall as to me it seems a little more stable.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Like you, I also did not like Hyper-G in this frame. Too bad really because I thought the racquet looks amazing with green Wilson Pro OG and strings. Anyway, I am a big fan of RS Lyon full bed at 42lbs in both my 93P. Started at 45lbs and found 42lbs to really gel with my strokes in this frame. Also really liked gut/poly (Lux/RS Lyon) but changes feel quite a lot compared to full bed poly. Best of luck.
I don’t like a full bed of hyper g but I do like hyper g crossed with rs lyon. :)
 

stephenclown

Professional
Can't wait to compare this to the PT600 when my blisters clear up a little, maybe I give them a couple more days this time. First time using a classic head so lets see how it actually feels. I transferred into a very attacking style of game with a lot of flat drives set up from my serve so both frames should be this exceptionally well. I used to play mainly an attacking but loopy game (driving spin) with very few flat drives. Wrist is better for the change.

For the Prince 93P I feel like Solstice Power feels a little bit stiff for me. Thought it played softer but other options seem better, still a very good string. I would like to try a gut hybrid in here but may try out a multi main hybrid next to get a feel for it. Serving should be great with it.
 
Yes, that's a good tension in my opinion as I had mine at 50/45 and felt great - I could even go a couple pounds looser if needed.

Also, since Klip Legend is clearly more powerful than Luxilon Natural Gut, the couple of pounds tighter tension in mains will suit the hybrid setup, in my opinion. I will recommend however that you keep poly at 45lbs or under so you don't start to get that boardier feel). It is a 93 after all with 18x20 patterm at the end of the day so I wouldn't string high tensions unless you like that kind of feedback.

I did snap my gut mains and reverted to full poly after that, but have no complaints with gut/poly hybrid with clean, crisp and comfortable feedback. The frame is really that good and fun to hit with.
Thanks for the recommendations..all my tennis has been with prostaffs and 16x19 patterns..pt280 is the only exception..I will try 52/45 or poly @45...I used to get my racquets strung with polys @50 lbs but slowly lowering it and am at 45 lbs now..mostly either RS Lyon or proline 2 17g...
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
What's the level in the championships, if you don't mind -- and what's your playing style?
This was men's B doubles and Mixed B doubles. So NTRP 3.5-4.0. My play style in doubles is to serve and volley and chip and charge. So I'm hitting a fair amount of volleys, half volleys and low volleys as well as returns and serves. Not a ton of traditional groundies. That being said you can really nail a short ball with this racket.

Overall the racket is a surgical tool that takes a little more eye discipline than some other rackets. You do need to follow the ball to the racket on volleys. If you do, you are rewarded with beautiful precision. If you get lazy with your eyes, the framed volleys start showing up. So it's actually shoring up my technique.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Hey guys, I love my Prince Thunder Rip 1200. I’m a pusher. Any new racquets similar?


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If you are sticking to the Prince brand, the 93P is not at all similar and not really a pusher racket. It's an all court super star. Makes me feel like Fed out there not Nadal (I know I look nothing like either but we can dream right).

The Princes that might suit your game would likely be the Prince 03 Beast 104 or if you want a more players frame, the POG 107 or Phantom 100.
 

CosmosMpower

Hall of Fame
Anyone have experience to say how the 93P plays compared to TT95, Ultra Tour, Angell TC95/97? Power, control, spin etc? I hit a flat, low ball and like flexible control oriented 18x20 racquets with fairly low power.

The specs on the 93P line up pretty close to my TC95 18x20 63RA except swing weight which is about 15 pts lower for some reason despite a similar static weight (345 strung) and balance 9 pts hl.
 

tomato123

Professional
If you are sticking to the Prince brand, the 93P is not at all similar and not really a pusher racket. It's an all court super star. Makes me feel like Fed out there not Nadal (I know I look nothing like either but we can dream right).

The Princes that might suit your game would likely be the Prince 03 Beast 104 or if you want a more players frame, the POG 107 or Phantom 100.
Martina Hingis for me - whom I also look or play nothing like :)
 

Anton

Legend
Anton, were you using a DR98 light? Do I remember correctly? Do you like the 93P better?
DR98 Light is still my first pick for battle.

93P is great and is my second go-to...but it's very different and not as good for big-spin game that I want to keep advancing.

It's like choosing Federer or Nadal as your favorite.
 

Tordne

Semi-Pro
@Tordne - anything to report?
I ended up hitting with it for less than 5 minutes so really don't have any opinions that would be worth sharing.

The reason for not spending more time with it that night when I took it for a test drive I'm putting down to the SW just being too low for me. Mine came in under spec and the SW was about 10 lower than I'd normally play. But I wanted to try it in that spec before modification. It is also likely to be a very low powered frame. I strung it with Cyclone 18L @ 45 lb (I'd normally string rackets with the same string around 52lb) and in some cases it felt like it was a struggle to make the net (and I'm a big hitter).

So I probably will put some weight on it and give it another go. But I don't think it will be a racket that I could contemplate committing to as my "game day" racket. I'm waiting on an email reply from Paul @ Angell and then I'm almost certain to be going the Angell Custom V3 TC95 route.
 

ohiostate124

Professional
How is it with full natural gut? I’m demoing the racket soon and thinking about it as a possible replacement for my old pro staffs.
 

Wick

New User
Xone at 43lbs is sweet
Thanks. People at the shop suggested 47lbs and I am collecting the racquet next Tuesday. Hopefully I will see a big change from the Hyper-G... if not, as much as I like the racquet, I guess I have to give up
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
How is it with full natural gut? I’m demoing the racket soon and thinking about it as a possible replacement for my old pro staffs.
I'm thinking this racket could play very well with NG. It is low powered enough to handle gut and gut would provide adequate to excellent spin for slices, spin serves, mid court groundies and slice overheads. Where it might suffer is with topspin groundies from the baseline where you might get better spin from a hybrid if you rely on snapback as your main source of revs. Personally I'm not that big a hitter so I probably get most of my spin from the string-ball friction.

I think power hitters with modern strokes would benefit most from poly or gut/poly hybrid. More modest hitters with flatter strokes and lower RHS would likely function best with gut or a multi like X-one biphase or NXT.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Thanks. People at the shop suggested 47lbs and I am collecting the racquet next Tuesday. Hopefully I will see a big change from the Hyper-G... if not, as much as I like the racquet, I guess I have to give up
It will be totally different from hyper G that's for sure. I think the racket should have tons of pop with that setup and it's really going to come down to whether it has enough spin for you. I'm playing with a multi hybrid of sorts with Origin/Velocity and I'm going to string down in tension next time. The racket started a little boardy at 55/52 and now after 15 hrs its finally feeling very nice. So i suspect putting in my next stringing at 52/48 will be the ticket.
 

4-string

Professional
Just back from the court after my first hit with the 93P. Initial impressions are very good (honeymoon I know). Just like the Angell TC95 the 93P provides some serious kick and action on the ball on serves that I am not able to explain or understand. Contrary to the TC95 though, the 93P has great feel and feedback. On par with my PB10 Mid I'd say. :) It doesn't feel any smaller than the TC95, or the 6.1 95 I used to own for that matter.

I strung it with Solinco Revolution 1.15 at 48/45lbs, which works OK. I think this frame calls for a gut/poly hybrid, that will probably be up next.

Happy to finally get this racquet here in Europe! :)
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
It will be totally different from hyper G that's for sure. I think the racket should have tons of pop with that setup and it's really going to come down to whether it has enough spin for you. I'm playing with a multi hybrid of sorts with Origin/Velocity and I'm going to string down in tension next time. The racket started a little boardy at 55/52 and now after 15 hrs its finally feeling very nice. So i suspect putting in my next stringing at 52/48 will be the ticket.
I've been stringing mine at 47 / 44. I was never a big fan of hyper-G, but I tried Tour Bite at that tension and I liked it.
 
For some reason my 1HBH with 93p is so effortless and consistent...never played this well with any of my other racquets..getting so many compliments as well in courts...earlier I thought TT95 (textreme tour) was too good on BH wing but 93p is even better...I used to slice/chip the hard 1st serves on my BH side but with 93p I am able to block/drive better or play top spin returns as well...not sure if the stability or weight distribution that is making it easy to move it around quickly...I played a match (I thought a lot whether to play a match with it or not yet, and didn't get a chance to replace hyper g yet as well) and won 7-5, 6-4...Serving was too good as well..I am so confused between my trusted TC95 and 93P now for matches...will find out after few more weeks I guess...but honestly 93p is more enjoyable and has a better feel...one major difference is the launch angle..ofcouse the string patterns have a major role here..TC95 has more power but BH slice is too good with 93p..93p has better control as well...serving with TC95 may be little better...disclaimer here is string setup is different which may change lot of things...TC95 strung with Rs lyon @45 and 93p is still with hyper g@46 lbs....I may sell my pt280 and buy another 93p...
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
Received my 93P yesterday from TW Europe and took it to the court for 2 hours today.

For the thought process that got me interested in this racquet, you can read it here:

For Chris / Mark (or anyone who played a lot in the 80's)

The playing conditions being somewhat difficult - very sunny / 33 degrees C / 80% humidity here in HK - my partner and I decided to play a series of tie-breakers rather than a regular game, to be able to take some breaks from the heat.

The racquet I have been using for the past 18 months is the Yonex Ezone DR 98, to which I have added 1.5g of lead at 3 & 9 and a leather grip. Static weight is about 345 g with a Hyper G 16L strung at 50lbs. For the 93P, I had asked TW to string a Hyper G 17 at 48 lbs. Just added an overgrip, which puts the weight at 345 g.

Here are my impressions:

- at 48 lbs, the Hyper G 17 feels a bit too tight and boardy, which I attribute to the denser 18x20 pattern in a smaller head. Not unpleasant, but next time, I will drop it to 46 lbs, or possibly experiment with a 18 gauge. A thinner string should play nicely in this racquet

- the racquet is very comfortable on the arm, despite the firm poly. It has a good flex, which is consistent across the frame, unlike the DR 98 whose flex is felt predominantly around the throat. Despite having similar low stiffness ratings, the Prince feels a tad firmer.

- I found the racquet to be very stable, unlike the DR 98, which can be a bit unstable on off-center hits in stock form (hence the lead customisation). I was surprised how forgiving it was, considering the 93 sq.in. hoop.

- the racquet is fairly heavy, but quite manoeuvrable thanks to the headlight balance. Having said that, you definitely have to move your feet to get yourself in position, and have good technique. It can be difficult to wield when pushed far out into a defensive position

- forehand: I lose a bit of power there vs. the DR 98, but I feel this is compensated by the fact that I miss less. The ball sometimes flies long with the Yonex, a lot less so with the Prince. I think it is an acceptable trade-off, where I will score less winners, but make less mistakes, too. I need to work more at finding my cross court, angled acceleration, which was missing today.

- one handed backhand: this is where my game benefits the most from the Prince. I could never get dialled in properly with the Yonex, especially on the slice. I am far, far more consistent with the 93P. I think the 18x20 pattern helps a lot there

- serve: more of less the same, perhaps a bit more zip with the DR 98, but the Prince is not miles away. No issue finding a nice kick, which is an important part of my game

- return: I feel more consistent, especially on the backhand side. Just putting the racquet in front of the ball and letting the frame direct the ball back. Forehand, same as above.

- volley: didn't go to the net a lot, but when I did it felt really solid. Again, and advantage of the heavier frame.

- touch / feel: really nice on drop shots and lobs. I was far more accurate than with the DR 98

Overall, this was very pleasant. Will play a couple of more times with it to confirm my impressions once the tension drops a bit, and if so will place an order for another one.
 

Solek

Rookie
How does this compare to the Redondo 93? Can I just add some lead to my Redondo 93 and get the same results? I am demoing this thing soon but would like some opinions as to if this racquet is worth switching to.
 

caprivi

Rookie
I find that I hit more out in front and with more rhs since the racquet is more maneuverable and has less inherent power than my PP100. After different string trials, I've also settled on a full-bed soft, dead 17g polly @40/37--comfortable, lots of pocketing, and adequate spin on demand. I may frame a bit more with this racquet when I'm out of practice, but it's more reliable when I don't have to rush. Fun racquet that allows me to loosen up and rip it without worrying about my elbow afterwards.

For some reason my 1HBH with 93p is so effortless and consistent...never played this well with any of my other racquets..getting so many compliments as well in courts...earlier I thought TT95 (textreme tour) was too good on BH wing but 93p is even better...I used to slice/chip the hard 1st serves on my BH side but with 93p I am able to block/drive better or play top spin returns as well...not sure if the stability or weight distribution that is making it easy to move it around quickly...I played a match (I thought a lot whether to play a match with it or not yet, and didn't get a chance to replace hyper g yet as well) and won 7-5, 6-4...Serving was too good as well..I am so confused between my trusted TC95 and 93P now for matches...will find out after few more weeks I guess...but honestly 93p is more enjoyable and has a better feel...one major difference is the launch angle..ofcouse the string patterns have a major role here..TC95 has more power but BH slice is too good with 93p..93p has better control as well...serving with TC95 may be little better...disclaimer here is string setup is different which may change lot of things...TC95 strung with Rs lyon @45 and 93p is still with hyper g@46 lbs....I may sell my pt280 and buy another 93p...
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
Question for full bed multi users. I've been stringing 17g multi and love it when it's fresh, but even on a 93" head and 18x20 pattern, rapid tension loss is still an issue.

Would 16g at lower tensions compensate for the spin by allowing for more string sliding? I have 17g at 55# and wondering if 16g at 50# or 45# would play equally well.

The best control multi that I've ever played with is Head's Velocity 17, but no matter what tension I string it at, it won't agree with my arm like Xcel does.
 
I started getting back into tennis after a LONG layoff - so long that I literally couldn't find my last racquet from the 90's. Since my trusted Maxply-Fort and Wilson Advantages disappeared from my parents' house at some point, I did about 30 hours of racquet research and settled on the Phantom 100. Then, I realized there were two other Phantom models so I demo'd all three + the Prince Tour 100P after reading the 26 page thread for the Phantom 100 frames. I posted my results in the long Phantom 100 thread. After "deciding" on the Phantom Pro 100P but before I could order it, two guys in the other thread suggested that I consider the 93P. After reading about 20 pages of this thread, I was totally confused. Then, 5+ pages of string discussion for the 93P almost gave me a nervous breakdown. To avoid further paralysis by analysis, I went ahead and ordered the 93P (without a demo) with Prince synthetic gut 17g at 50 lbs. I know. . . I know . . . I just needed to order a racquet so I get on the courts instead of getting computer elbow while trying to figure out what I should buy.

Thanks to everyone who commented here. I will post my results after I have a chance to play with the racquet. I should have it by the end of the week.
 

Anton

Legend
How does this compare to the Redondo 93? Can I just add some lead to my Redondo 93 and get the same results? I am demoing this thing soon but would like some opinions as to if this racquet is worth switching to.
Leaded Redondo 93 is nice...P93 is a lot more lethal though - more pace, more spin, more solid.
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
Played another 2 hours yesterday, which went to confirm my initial impressions, and then some. I don't think I have been as consistent for a very long time. This thing is just a joy to play with.

Placed an order for another one today.

PS: It doesn't hurt that this racquet looks extremely nice.
 

tomato123

Professional
I started getting back into tennis after a LONG layoff - so long that I literally couldn't find my last racquet from the 90's. Since my trusted Maxply-Fort and Wilson Advantages disappeared from my parents' house at some point, I did about 30 hours of racquet research and settled on the Phantom 100. Then, I realized there were two other Phantom models so I demo'd all three + the Prince Tour 100P after reading the 26 page thread for the Phantom 100 frames. I posted my results in the long Phantom 100 thread. After "deciding" on the Phantom Pro 100P but before I could order it, two guys in the other thread suggested that I consider the 93P. After reading about 20 pages of this thread, I was totally confused. Then, 5+ pages of string discussion for the 93P almost gave me a nervous breakdown. To avoid further paralysis by analysis, I went ahead and ordered the 93P (without a demo) with Prince synthetic gut 17g at 50 lbs. I know. . . I know . . . I just needed to order a racquet so I get on the courts instead of getting computer elbow while trying to figure out what I should buy.

Thanks to everyone who commented here. I will post my results after I have a chance to play with the racquet. I should have it by the end of the week.
Sounds great - hope the racquet works out well for you. I'm also just about one year into my tennis comeback after a ~15 year layoff, played with POG and Yonex RD-7 with Prince synthetic gut in my high school/college days. Played around with a couple Yonexes when I decided to pick up tennis again before discovering the 93P a few months ago and haven't looked back - definitely checked a lot of boxes for me, including the nostalgia factor.

I personally find that the 93P isn't as "string sensitive" at least with poly strings, in that there probably won't be too much noticeable difference in performance between the different polyester strings, outside maybe stiffness and feel. If you prefer poly, stringing at low-mid 40's with something like Volkyl Cyclone or RS Lyon (or your favorite poly) will likely be a good starting point, and I'm sure someone can assist if you feel you need something different.

If you prefer not to use poly strings, a good multifilament starting point I think would be Head Velocity in the 50lb range (give or take a couple lbs depending on your preference). So hopefully this can ease some of the analysis paralysis. :) I know people here have different string preferences for this racquet but I get the feeling that there isn't a lot of difference in how the racquet plays between all of us who use it, regardless of what strings are being used. I also wouldn't be surprised if Prince Synthetic gut plays really well too.
 
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Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Question for full bed multi users. I've been stringing 17g multi and love it when it's fresh, but even on a 93" head and 18x20 pattern, rapid tension loss is still an issue.

Would 16g at lower tensions compensate for the spin by allowing for more string sliding? I have 17g at 55# and wondering if 16g at 50# or 45# would play equally well.

The best control multi that I've ever played with is Head's Velocity 17, but no matter what tension I string it at, it won't agree with my arm like Xcel does.
If you want to try something close to Velocity but easier on the arm an Origin/V cross might be to your liking. I strung it at 54/52 but I'll likely go down next time to 52/48.
 

tomato123

Professional
Question for full bed multi users. I've been stringing 17g multi and love it when it's fresh, but even on a 93" head and 18x20 pattern, rapid tension loss is still an issue.

Would 16g at lower tensions compensate for the spin by allowing for more string sliding? I have 17g at 55# and wondering if 16g at 50# or 45# would play equally well.

The best control multi that I've ever played with is Head's Velocity 17, but no matter what tension I string it at, it won't agree with my arm like Xcel does.
You could try pre-stretched X-One Biphase which people have said it mitigates the tension loss. Worked for me when I tried it once on a Yonex a while back. Prince Premier Control sounds like a good option too for comfort and all around good performance multi.
 

tomato123

Professional
Until about two weeks ago, I had not even heard of poly or multifilament. Seriously. :)

I think the strings will be the least of my hitting issues for a while. As I improve, I will try out your recommendations. Thanks.
LOL funny you say that, before I joined this forum the only strings I knew existed was Prince synthetic gut and this super expensive "natural gut" thing that articles on Tennis magazine talked about in reference to Pete Sampras' equipment...
 

stephenclown

Professional
Interesting comparison to the PT600 that I just picked up. The HEAD is more solid, swings nicely although not as well balanced and is incredibly plush. The pocketing is really nice and so smooth, a step ahead of the prince but was using multi main poly cross. Overall it is an absolute treat to use and crushes the ball. Hits the ball better when hitting flat imo.

93P is easier to generate spin with a bit more consistency on the serve, but not quite as solid. Will put some lead at 3 and 9 and a gut hybrid and it should lessen the gap. If I am able to get that same feel, the prince will be my last frame for a long time.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
If you want to try something close to Velocity but easier on the arm an Origin/V cross might be to your liking. I strung it at 54/52 but I'll likely go down next time to 52/48.
Dartagnan - and Athos, Porthos and Aramis if available - I'm doing it!! Ordered Origin red 1.30 and Velocity Black 1.30!! Now wondering re tension; If I normally string full Poly - Cyclone Tour 1.25 mains with Yonex PTP or Air 1.25 crosses - at 44.5/42.5 lbs, and, when hybriding, same Yonex Poly as mains with X-1 or Volkl PFII 1.30 crosses at 48.5lbs both mains and crosses, how much if any should I up the tension for O/V? (Don't remember why I ended up with all these .5s lol!!) Still primarily using Prince Precision Equipe 28" Midplus - really a 97" headsize, but says 95"; I also string my lengthened to 28" Prince TT95 at 47.5lbs with the hybrid options mentioned before. Any advice greatly appreciated. Sorry, this should really be in 'Strings' section.
 
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Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
I’d up the tension over poly for sure but somewhere in the 54-52 range for Origin and 50-48 range for Velocity. Your poly ranges are similar to where I’d string poly if I was willing to use poly again. Which I’m not at this point.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
Thanks for the info; :) thought I might leave the velocity crosses at 48.5 but up the Origin mains tension to account for the swap from poly - just got to guesstimate how much.
 

Dartagnan64

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Thanks for the info; :) thought I might leave the velocity crosses at 48.5 but up the Origin mains tension to account for the swap from poly - just got to guesstimate how much.
I always find Origin plays best for me nearer to the upper range of string tension on a 16x19 and closer to the middle of the string tension range on a denser string bed.
 
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