Yeah, I pulled out my POG mid too, but it’s got a 30 year-old high tension syngut, so I’m curious to try a more modern string setup, kind of a Pre-Demo before getting to demo the new 93 14 x 18.With all this talk about the phantom 93 14x18, I took out my old graphite 90 14x18. Just had a hitting session with it and man was it fun. Forgot how much I liked that frame.
I think I might do the same. I’m pretty sure I haven’t had it strung in twenty yearsYeah, I pulled out my POG mid too, but it’s got a 30 year-old high tension syngut, so I’m curious to try a more modern string setup, kind of a Pre-Demo before getting to demo the new 93 14 x 18.
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My main racquet for the last nine years was an exo3 graphite 93 but I'm also used to a 18x20 after using a speed pro, radical, and finally the current 93p but the nostalgia of using a 14x18 will definitely have me try it. I hope it comes with an old school suede/leather carry case like the old graphites. I know it won't but I can dream.I'm not overly interested in the 14x18 pattern as I have really meshed with the 18x20. That said, I hope someone near me gets one just so I can see what the difference is like. I can see advantages to such an open pattern for some shots but overall I like the 18x20 and plan to stock up on it over time.
That is about how I feel in regards to the 93P and PB10. They both are great frames. The 93P is just easier to play with, even with the 18x20 pattern.Can anyone compare the 93P to the PB10mid. I vaguely remember several months ago that the 93P has a much larger sweet spot and feels much bigger than a 93in head. Anyone still feeling that way?
I feared any player carrying the Prince Graphite Suede case back in the 80’s. They were mostly great players who were at the top of their high school rankings.My main racquet for the last nine years was an exo3 graphite 93 but I'm also used to a 18x20 after using a speed pro, radical, and finally the current 93p but the nostalgia of using a 14x18 will definitely have me try it. I hope it comes with an old school suede/leather carry case like the old graphites. I know it won't but I can dream.
93p serves much better due to the head shape. Bh and fh are about the same but the 93p has a heavier ball in stock form. I found difficult to serve with the pb10 after serving with the 93pThat is about how I feel in regards to the 93P and PB10. They both are great frames. The 93P is just easier to play with, even with the 18x20 pattern.
I have so many Prince 90 14x18s it is hard to justify the upcoming "new and improved" 93 14x18. It is probably in my head but since playing with the Graphite Pro 90 I have had several people comment on well I have been playing. I can dial up or down the stiffness ladder in 90 14x18s with varying degrees of muting as well. One of my old pals is sending me a Magnesium Pro 90 which I am looking forward to. I can go modern with a "bighead" racket by bringing out the Mono'sYea, the graphite pro 90 with that pattern and that flexibility hits with more spin for me than any other frame I have ever played.
I have not played Rexis but if you haven't tried already, I would recommend HEAD FXP 17 around 50 lbs to throw in the mix. I am a full bed poly player mostly but loved the FXP feedback in 93P.Getting my second 93p and deciding on string. I have gut/poly in one and am coming back from injury so I think I will go full multi in my second one. Considering:
- rip ctrl
- velocity
- yonex rexis
All 17g. I have a good sense of the first two but has anybody played Rexis before?
thx
It's been awhile since i've purchased a racquet that i've done minimal to and really get excited to keep using it.This is a *really* nice racquet.
...dammit.
Yeah really all it needs is getting the string set up right. Once that's dialled in it plays like a dream in stock form.It's been awhile since i've purchased a racquet that i've done minimal to and really get excited to keep using it.
TBH more interested in the Phantom Pro 100 18 x 20. I just love tighter stringbeds for doubles play which is 90% of my tennis life.So who's gonna bite first?
https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Prince_Phantom_Pro_93P_14x18/descpageRCTWABG-P93P14.html
Ditto.TBH more interested in the Phantom Pro 100 18 x 20. I just love tighter stringbeds for doubles play which is 90% of my tennis life.
Hopefully TW will have these available for Demo at Indian Wells Parabas so I can try them out. Bit disappointed they went stiffer with the RA on the 14x18 93P. Will need to try it out to see if its as plush as the 18x20.
My knees just got weak.... so soon?...I have to wait a few months. I already owe my wife a pile of chick flick dates for the last toy I purchased for myself.So who's gonna bite first?
https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Prince_Phantom_Pro_93P_14x18/descpageRCTWABG-P93P14.html
I will be purchasing mine this weekend.So who's gonna bite first?
https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Prince_Phantom_Pro_93P_14x18/descpageRCTWABG-P93P14.html
Im almost a year in with it now. It never gets old. Enjoy!These are 2 great additional offerings. After a few days of playing the best tennis ive played in years i am debating making s move to the 93P 18x20
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biggest differences are going to be in the new 100 18x20 versus the 93p 18x20
I regretted not getting them sooner than I did. I tried to resist from buying, but it quickly became pretty evident that I was having more fun and played best tennis I've played in a long, long time using the 93P. It's just so awesome in so many ways.These are 2 great additional offerings. After a few days of playing the best tennis ive played in years i am debating making s move to the 93P 18x20
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Hey Mark - your racquets just arrived and I'm quite excited to use them with your specs. Haven't played 93p with gut mains yet.I liked the 93p MUCH more than any of the other Phantoms. I did sell them,again, but only because it was easier for me to play with a larger face on clay. The 93 with that open pattern will be a killer stick for serves and spin no doubt. I am also selling my 2015 Tt100ps. Love them too but I think I am addicted to my tour 100s with the ports. I will probably demo the Phantom with the 18 20 (I have begged for it) but all those phantom 100s felt clumsy to me compared to my tours. The tours have a really high twist weight, which I like, but go through the air we’ll. I think it is possible that I am Blount to the ports.
See if you can find hyper g on the strings anywhere. It may be unlikely since TW strings it with a green poly too. But if you find that it's hyper g string, it's probably one I strung at 46 lbs, 17g.I have received pp100p (53 hyper g) and 93p (unknown green strings) demo. It seems like pp100p has smaller sweetspot than 93p but more plush. The 93p demo felt like a club and not as maneuvrable as the p100pp. The 93p however felt like it had the potential of more “point and shoot” and definitely was less fussy when hit off center. It’s just I have no way to tell what tension it is strung at and at the moment it’s feeling like a heavy board. ... When both of these are strung at their optimal tensions (mid or low 40s I assume),
1) does the pp100p gain similar good off center character as the 93p
2) which is more plush 93p or pp100p
The head size of the 93p surprisingly is not that much different than other 100sqin racquets
No because of the bigger head...the pp100p has more off center twist...1) does the pp100p gain similar good off center character as the 93p
It's because the 100 feels like garbage in comparison to the 93.No because of the bigger head...the pp100p has more off center twist...
Surprised you thought the pp100p had a smaller sweet spot. When I demo's them, the pp100p seemed to have a 20% larger sweet spot.
No because of the bigger head...the pp100p has more off center twist...
Surprised you thought the pp100p had a smaller sweet spot. When I demo's them, the pp100p seemed to have a 20% larger sweet spot.
Why would you want a wide open pattern with a low ra? Its very tough to feel the ball at all. I doubt youd like it.I'm surprised Prince made the new 93P (14x18) stiffer. No thanks for me. I would have wanted one if it was sub 60RA. Now the new PP100 (18x20) with 55RA interests me. Waiting for the reviews.
ExactlyThe slight bump in stiffness for 14x18 is probably an attempt to make it feel the same as the 18x20 version. Isn't open string pattern supposed to play softer than dense string pattern? So the increase in RA offsets the softness brought about by more open string pattern.
I actually find they feel quite similar. Both are very good frames, then it's a question of style of play and individual preference. For my game, the PP100P is a bit easier to play, but I hit a bigger ball with the 93P.It's because the 100 feels like garbage in comparison to the 93.
Good answer. But we'll also be looking at a bump in power since the racket is stiffer and the string bed will be more lively and the launch angle will be higher. With a softer racket some power would be absorbed. Otherwise you are going to need higher tension poly to tame it a bit. Unless its spins the ball so well that you can use topspin to maintain control like an APD.The slight bump in stiffness for 14x18 is probably an attempt to make it feel the same as the 18x20 version. Isn't open string pattern supposed to play softer than dense string pattern? So the increase in RA offsets the softness brought about by more open string pattern.
The 14x18 93P might still be flexier than the POG Mid. The flexier Prince Mids in the past were 30-40 grams heavier than the POG and Phantom Mids, so this might be good news to some people.I'm surprised Prince made the new 93P (14x18) stiffer. No thanks for me. I would have wanted one if it was sub 60RA. Now the new PP100 (18x20) with 55RA interests me. Waiting for the reviews.
I understand that the higher stiffness is there to offset the looser string pattern, to achieve a similar feel. And also the fact that this combination should result in more power than the 18x20 version. I would be really interested to see the side of the 14x18 to see how Prince themselves rate the power level. On the 18x20, they grade it at 600 on their scale (vs. 800 on the PP100P).Good answer. But we'll also be looking at a bump in power since the racket is stiffer and the string bed will be more lively and the launch angle will be higher. With a softer racket some power would be absorbed. Otherwise you are going to need higher tension poly to tame it a bit. Unless its spins the ball so well that you can use topspin to maintain control like an APD.
I'm certainly interested in demoing it, but if it doesn't feel as plush as the 18x20, I'm not terrible interested. I'd probably rather look at the 18x20 Pro 100P.