I played with the 16x18 for many years and loved it. Only tried the 18x20 once and it felt like a board but I never got a chance to reduce the string tension to see if that would resolve things. I also found the 18x20 to be slightly less maneuverable probably due to the slightly less head light balance and increased air drag of the denser string pattern.
it's weird, the spacing on the 16x18 pattern seems to be the same mostly over the years. havent done the diligence to see what the variations are.. but ive always felt that they vary and some are more controlled than others
Did a quick comparison of the 6.1 grommets I have for fitment:
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Skipped the outermost mains out of curiosity or preference?Here is one of my Wilson 6.1 classic molds .. with a different costume but still a Wilson 6.1 underneath
yes for the most part, but the 2012 blx and HPS have nice access to pop IMO. Making them both a balanced 6.1 16x18 option
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My shoulder hurts just looking at it. Never recovered from using those sticks for a season. It still looks good, though.I just join to contribute this really nostalgic post. I'm a returning player from '90 early '00 and now I've restart to play tennis after a long career in Handball. I took from the bag my PSC 18x20 (I'm from EU, Rome, Italy) probably Taiwan made as I bought this racquet in 1995.
Below the photo of EU version 18x20. Code is SHV (any1 knows what that means?) on white cap. Got below the overgrip a classic fairway leather grip. Both sq/inch and "pro staff classic" are stamped inside the frame.
Still have the Wilson Quality hologram and as is an EU version is providing info in kg (25-29) and the SI index 6.1 in a box. On side we have, I guess, the first font for Pro Staff classic and information on composition (80-20 graphite-kevlar)
As I'm not so involved in technical discussion, there's some multi (full bed for now) that you suggest for this old beauty? I'm currently string "her" by using Wilson Sensation 16 at 22kg but what to experiment something different on next restrung. At current time I'm just doing group practice with coach so need something comfortable like a multi, but I look for the best one for the pro staff 18x20 specs, whenever the Sensation is not so bad as the price point may suggest. Some1 suggest the X-One Biphase or Head Velocity, around 24kg.
On the early ages I was using Natural Gut at 27kg! way to much for a modern game I guess. Maybe in the future I would like to try a new Natural Gut (Wilson/Babolat) at lower tension but not or now.
It's a beauty - but 65lbs recommended tension! A poly at that tension in this racquet would kill your arm and shoulder in a single session.What are peoples thoughts on this 2001 Hyper Carbon 6.1? It's a bit lighter than my 90s 6.1 Classic.
I think I played with one from the same family back in 2003. It was gold and grey. Can't remember anything specific about it except that it was a Pro Staff and stiff as hell. I changed it after a season to the Hammer series. Can't find it online. Anyone ever had it?What are peoples thoughts on this 2001 Hyper Carbon 6.1? It's a bit lighter than my 90s 6.1 Classic.
It's interesting that the PSC lasted a good decade.What are peoples thoughts on this 2001 Hyper Carbon 6.1? It's a bit lighter than my 90s 6.1 Classic.
I haven't tried gut in the PSC, but I can imagine it would be good for power/comfort especially at the traditional tension range around 55-60lbs. Mine have synguts around 55lbs, which are also fine. One is Babolat, the other Tourna. Given that the PSC is stiff, and you're not a string breaker, I can imagine a soft multi like NXT would be very nice too.
Thanks a bunch. Maybe I'll experiment the "expensive" gut after a while when I'm more confident on my play, I'll set at 55lbs as suggested.
..damn Wilson rofl..
Hyper Pro Staff 'Classics' with Hyper Stretch by MAGYPics, on FlickrGood find! String pattern on all the stretches were 16x18 or 18x20?maybe the lack of the the "carbon fiber weave texture" and "double braid" decals? I've had a number of regular length Hyper 6.1s and they all looked like the bottom one, not the 3 flat black ones above.
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So 18m just like the original PSC. Wonder why they eventually opened them up on the later gens. The K95 extendeds were 16m.Tennis Warehouse - Wilson Hyper ProStaff 6.1 Racquet Review
Looks like the midplus stretch is 18x20, the oversize stretch is 16x20.
I own 2 of these beauties. Lighter than the PSC 6.1. I still pull them out occasionally. Nice stick it has easy power. Not as much as the PSC but I get great spin and slice with it. Plus my arm doesn’t get as tired. I have 4 PSC 6.1 classics also.What are peoples thoughts on this 2001 Hyper Carbon 6.1? It's a bit lighter than my 90s 6.1 Classic.
HPS is 18/20, PSC is 16/18.
I also own one HPS stretch. I mistakenly picked up the wrong racquet. The stretch has 18/20 string pattern. Not home right now. I’m gonna check the pattern on the standard length HPS, later.
Regarding the SHV buttcap code, see post 182 and 189 in this thread. Sanglier's theory suggests/confirms that your racquet was made in Taiwan in 1995 by Sanhosun.
Could be 6.0 95 versus 6.1 95?
I've bought in Italy in 1995 so should be accurate. Thanks a lot for feedback, very informative. I didn't notice the post.
Though there are some threads with bits of info here and there, I was surprised that there was no club for this classic stick. My all-time favorite and one that I've been playing off and on since the early 90s.
Here is the info I've gathered searching across different threads here on TT. I play the 16x18 so I've mostly stuck to that. Anyone who has specs or thoughts on the 18x20 version, which I believe is a bit more flexy, feel free to add!
None this is my original info. I gathered if from other threads and other posters, but I thought I'd collect it all here along with some pictures of my collection of PSCs. Please post yours as well!
Here are the general specs for the 16x18 version.
Head Size: 95 sq. in.
Strung Weight: 12.6oz / 357g
Balance: 11pts Head Light
Swingweight: 326
Stiffness: 72
Beam Width: 21 mm Straight Beam
Here's the old TW page: https://web.archive.org/web/20030402055330/http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCWILSON-61.html
The line was launched in '90 or '91 (a little help?) as the "Pro Staff Classic" then "Pro Staff Classic 6.1 si" and finally the "Pro Staff Classic 6.1."
There were four versions. The first three, from my experience, played pretty much exactly the same and had the exact same specs. The fourth version, which I've played but never owned, didn't feel quite as solid. My understanding is that there wasn't any foam in the shaft of that version, but I cannot confirm that.
First gen: Pro Staff Classic. White butt cap with fairway leather grip stock. 95 sq.in written in the hoop. And made in Taiwan. (farthest to the right on the picture below)
Second gen: Pro Staff Classic 6.1 si. White buttcap, with aircushioned grip stock. 95 sq.in written in the hoop. And made in China. (Second from the right in the picture below)
Third gen: Pro Staff Classic 6.1. White buttcap with aircushioned grip stock. 95 sq.in written in the hoop. And made in China. (The other four from the left)
Fourth gen: Pro Staff Classic 6.1. Black buttcap with aircushioned grip stock. Midplus written in the hoop. Made in China. (Not pictured)
Though there are some threads with bits of info here and there, I was surprised that there was no club for this classic stick. My all-time favorite and one that I've been playing off and on since the early 90s.
Here is the info I've gathered searching across different threads here on TT. I play the 16x18 so I've mostly stuck to that. Anyone who has specs or thoughts on the 18x20 version, which I believe is a bit more flexy, feel free to add!
None this is my original info. I gathered if from other threads and other posters, but I thought I'd collect it all here along with some pictures of my collection of PSCs. Please post yours as well!
Here are the general specs for the 16x18 version.
Head Size: 95 sq. in.
Strung Weight: 12.6oz / 357g
Balance: 11pts Head Light
Swingweight: 326
Stiffness: 72
Beam Width: 21 mm Straight Beam
Here's the old TW page: https://web.archive.org/web/20030402055330/http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCWILSON-61.html
The line was launched in '90 or '91 (a little help?) as the "Pro Staff Classic" then "Pro Staff Classic 6.1 si" and finally the "Pro Staff Classic 6.1."
There were four versions. The first three, from my experience, played pretty much exactly the same and had the exact same specs. The fourth version, which I've played but never owned, didn't feel quite as solid. My understanding is that there wasn't any foam in the shaft of that version, but I cannot confirm that.
First gen: Pro Staff Classic. White butt cap with fairway leather grip stock. 95 sq.in written in the hoop. And made in Taiwan. (farthest to the right on the picture below)
Second gen: Pro Staff Classic 6.1 si. White buttcap, with aircushioned grip stock. 95 sq.in written in the hoop. And made in China. (Second from the right in the picture below)
Third gen: Pro Staff Classic 6.1. White buttcap with aircushioned grip stock. 95 sq.in written in the hoop. And made in China. (The other four from the left)
Fourth gen: Pro Staff Classic 6.1. Black buttcap with aircushioned grip stock. Midplus written in the hoop. Made in China. (Not pictured)
