***The Pure Storm Tour thread***

I tried out the MG Mid and gave some thought to the new
PDR whenever it comes out, but I've tweaked a few things in my swing and decided the problem was me and not the stick ;)

The one thing I really like about the MG mid is the weight distribution. My son's weighs right on 12.4 with an OG and it swings very lightly but it's got plenty of oomph behind it. However, the head is very small and I don't know if I would be able to be consistent enough with it. I'd love to try out some alu in there at 50/48 and I think it would work quite well.

There are times when I wish it had a bit more feedback but I love the overall feel. I've got some of the new Lux M2 in mine at the moment and it's pretty nice but not as nice as alu. It's been in the 40's here for the last few weeks and going to the 30's soon but my low 50's string tension has been really nice.
 
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I have 2 regular pure storms but ive customized them to be just about the same as the pure storm tour. customized to 11.9 oz. , 6pts head light. (weight added at 3,9 and in the handle). think im fine with the setup i have but im gonna buy another racquet soon and im just now thinking about getting the pure storm tour so i wont have to customize it. what do you think?

anyone else go from a pure storm to a tour?
is there any real difference between the tour and regular besides weight and head balance?
 
Hey PSTers,

Well, it's been a few months or so since I moved away from the PST and went back to my PD+ (although I've had a good look at a few other frames too - as usual :roll: .) And having had a small but impressive hit with the PST again yesterday evening (interestingly, I put a fair load of lead on @ 3 & 9 and reinforced @ 2 & 10) - I just felt to post up one or 2 thoughts...

I am of the firm opinion that the PST is a very under-rated rack on these boards...

It's control and touch aspects are way better than with most Babs. The lower early/mid 60's stifness RA makes the frame play with significantly less power than your PDR's et al, but you still get very nice juice and pop on groundies and (crucially for me) on the serve. Ditto the comfort and feel are lot nicer than other more traditional Bab offerings. You get a wonderful deep, driving topspin. Like most Babs, the rack definitely fits a 2hbh. The stability and solidity is a big-time advance on many other Bab frames. And... (btw, I'm saying this having lately seen a recurrence of wrist/forearm pains in the last 2 weeks)...

In six months or whatever of wielding the PST I NEVER had any injuries or soreness issues at all... that harshness just isn't to be found with the PST imo.

Anyhow, I just felt like 'paying my respects' ("Capice? " :)) to this excellent rod, and would ask ppl to seriously consider it if they might be thinking of testing out something with these characteristics/specs, etc, or for all those who like Bab frames but have issues with lack of stability and finding racks like the APD and PD too overpowered.

R.

BTW, Mine are returning to the bag... and if I continue to have wrist/forearm pains I might have to seriously reconsider it.
 
Ross K said:
Well, it's been a few months or so since I moved away from the PST and went back to my PD+ (although I've had a good look at a few other frames too - as usual :roll: .) And having had a small but impressive hit with the PST again yesterday evening (interestingly, I put a fair load of lead on @ 3 & 9 and reinforced @ 2 & 10) - I just felt to post up one or 2 thoughts...

I am of the firm opinion that the PST is a very under-rated rack on these boards...

It's control and touch aspects are way better than with most Babs. The lower early/mid 60's stifness RA makes the frame play with significantly less power than your PDR's et al, but you still get very nice juice and pop on groundies and (crucially for me) on the serve. Ditto the comfort and feel are lot nicer than other more traditional Bab offerings. You get a wonderful deep, driving topspin. Like most Babs, the rack definitely fits a 2hbh. The stability and solidity is a big-time advance on many other Bab frames. And... (btw, I'm saying this having lately seen a recurrence of wrist/forearm pains in the last 2 weeks)...

In six months or whatever of wielding the PST I NEVER had any injuries or soreness issues at all... that harshness just isn't to be found with the PST imo.

Anyhow, I just felt like 'paying my respects' ("Capice? " :)) to this excellent rod, and would ask ppl to seriously consider it if they might be thinking of testing out something with these characteristics/specs, etc, or for all those who like Bab frames but have issues with lack of stability and finding racks like the APD and PD too overpowered.

R.

BTW, Mine are returning to the bag... and if I continue to have wrist/forearm pains I might have to seriously reconsider it.
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That's a shame to have to move away from the PST. I've had my share of problems with the APDC n pure control. I'm not a big guy more like a Simon type specimen so it really hurts to know you can play well with a stick but suffer from it's stiffness.

I've had to leave my beloved APDC in the bag for something softer... sigh.

mawashi
 
Hello everybody,

I am looking for a new stick and it is hard to choosing between rds 002 tour, pst and aerostorm tour so if someone can help me it will be cool.
I play with an rqis 1 tour, I search more stability, more power and stiffer feeling.
thanks
 
I would lean toward the RDS 002 tour or the PST. The aerostorm carries alot of its weight in the throat and does not swing as easily as the other 2. Plus, you are already familar with the Yonex feel and the PST is practically a cousin of the Yonex with its soft and forgiving nature. The 002 will like be a bit more stable than the PST but the PST is still rock solid. I played on and off with an Aerostorm tour for over 18 months and never could get it to work for me.
 
thanks

The rds 2 tour is hard to find here but I think to try the pst.
The pst is very attractive for me, it seems to be an awsome stick
 
can someone confirm that the pst have much power than radical mg mp or nblade or rqis 1 tour or kblade tour ?
Which sticks is similar in power department ?
 
The PST does have more power than the rqis, and slightly more than the kblade tour. The rad is so much lighter than it's hard to compare the 2, if you have a full, long swing, the PST will absolutely paste the ball, if you don't, then you might not care for it.

Def demo it first, it's a very unique feel-people either love it or hate it.
 
thanks
slighty more than kbt, so if not as powerful as some people told to me. how can it be compare to rdical mp mg, aerogel 200 and 500 tour, nblade, k95 ? it s just to know how the pst powerful is
 
It's much less powerful than the 500 tour which I found to be too powerful. Something more along the lines of an AG200 or a k95. It doesn't hit as heavy of a ball as the k95 but that's down to the weight involved. The PST swings a good bit lighter than the k95 as well and is probably easier to use over a long session.

The PST is a babolat but it's more of the dark sheep of the family when it comes to the power department: it's certainly no pure drive or apdc. With it's narrow beam (21mm) the PST is much more of an old school racquet.
 
ok thanks to you, is a little problem for me because i think the dunlop ag 200 (16X19) is not enough powerfull and too flexible, as my rqis 1 tour
 
I've not hit with the rqis tour but have been told by those who have hit with both pst and rqis that the PST is the more powerful of the two.
 
Hi guys,

i am still using the PST and loving it.

i have tried APC, AG300, and now the Aero Storm Tour.

but nothing feels quite like the PST.

i have tweaked my PSTs to 12.4 OZ, and about 9 pt HL.

Off the topic, I am in Taiwan and just bought a Aero storm tour for about $148, strung.

Will try to play more with it, but so far, i STILL like the PST better.
 
KOtennis said:
Hi guys,

i am still using the PST and loving it.

i have tried APC, AG300, and now the Aero Storm Tour.

but nothing feels quite like the PST.

i have tweaked my PSTs to 12.4 OZ, and about 9 pt HL.

Off the topic, I am in Taiwan and just bought a Aero storm tour for about $148, strung.

Will try to play more with it, but so far, i STILL like the PST better.
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Thanks, can you give me some indication to compare pst poxer potential ? for exemple compared to ag 300, apc, ag 200, radical mp mg, nblade, ...
My only fear about pst is that it can be not enough powerful and to flexible. The rest of spec are great for my taste, really great.
 
KOtennis said:
Hi guys,

i am still using the PST and loving it.

i have tried APC, AG300, and now the Aero Storm Tour.

but nothing feels quite like the PST.

i have tweaked my PSTs to 12.4 OZ, and about 9 pt HL.

Off the topic, I am in Taiwan and just bought a Aero storm tour for about $148, strung.

Will try to play more with it, but so far, i STILL like the PST better.
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Hi KO,

Exactly where on the frame and how much lead tape are you using? I must say I preferred the racket when I put LT @ 3 and 9 recently... more oomph and even more solid and stable.
 
Roms said:
Thanks, can you give me some indication to compare pst poxer potential ? for exemple compared to ag 300, apc, ag 200, radical mp mg, nblade, ...
My only fear about pst is that it can be not enough powerful and to flexible. The rest of spec are great for my taste, really great.
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what do you think about that ?
I would like to know for exemple, if it is possible, with the good physic condition and good technique of course, to hit winners easely ?
Because to compare withe the rqis 1 tour, it is possible but extremly tiring during all a match, you have to do an big effort to get a winner with this stick. I am sure that with the pst winners are not free of course, but are they more accessible ?
 
You can SMOKE winners fairly easily from both sides with the PST. For some reason, the balance is about perfect: you can really hit a heavy nasty ball which will tire out your opponent in the end. I played around with lead setups but ended up liking them best stock. I like my FH quite a bit with my Prestige Pro but my 2hbh was much better with the PST.
 
thanks PED,

What you said is cool for me because it means that you can put your oppenent far to the ball with a fast FH, a fast ball which just skip de pavement :). For exemple it is very hard to get that with the rqis (possible, but very physic), and it is that why I don't advise the rqis for an attacker but more for a defender or patient player.
So you think the pst can fit the baseline attack game (I try to always be agressive, always hit a big shot and finish the point in 2 or 3 shots, my game is all or nothin, lot of winner and lot of mistakes :), and compared to my ag 500 tour, I'm looking for more control when I stroke the ball, I play 70% baseline and the rest all court).
I think the pst could fit my game. Moreover, I think it is very beautiful stick.
An important question, is pst Ok for one HB ?
 
Yes to all of the above. It will give you much more control than the 500 tour and is very stable on volleys as well. You can hit it with lots of spin or you can smack it hard and flat. I also think the weight of 343g strung and with an overgrip is heavy enough for a one hand BH as well.
 
Roms/PED,

Funny you should mention it... picking up on this 1hbh query, I'm a 2hbher, but I have actually noticed on the occasions I've used a 1hbh (and I'm not just talking about slice, I mean a 1hbh driving topspin 1hbh), the PST really has some real pace and oomph to it. So... speaking personally, imo the PST is very nice for a 1hbh.
 
Ross K, PED

Thanks very much, you have convice (I m not sure if it's the good word :), I mean youd advice me well) to get an pst, I had some doubt about power and ohbh, but now all is ok, and what I think is great with pst is what you said about heavy spin, or flat shot, the pst seems very versatile and it seems to do everything well.

Thanks a lot
 
Just switched from apdc's to these and loving it. feels so much better on volleys and control is better from all areas of the court.
 
PED said:
You can SMOKE winners fairly easily from both sides with the PST. For some reason, the balance is about perfect: you can really hit a heavy nasty ball which will tire out your opponent in the end. I played around with lead setups but ended up liking them best stock. I like my FH quite a bit with my Prestige Pro but my 2hbh was much better with the PST.
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I agree - only think I like more about my Prestige pro's is the forehand.

Other than that the Bab PST is my favorite racquet by far.
 
Ross K,

I added lead tape on the handle for all 3 of my PST.
for one of them, i had to add 2 inches of 1/4" wide lead tape at 3 and 9 position because this particular racquet was made more head light than the other 2.

Another thing, i buy my PST with 4 1/4 grip, so once i add the lead tape, it's very close to 4 3/8. (with Yonex super grap overgrip)
 
I can comment (a little late maybe!) on the RQis1 Tour vs PST as I tried an RQiS1T before choosing the PST. RQ felt too underpowered and I struggled to achieve any consistency with it.

My wife has an AG500 Tour, which is a lovely racket (far nicer than the APDC in my opinion) and is another step up in power from the PST, a little lighter althought slightly less head light.

My PST has grown on me since the restring (I had a real dip after the honeymoon period wore off!) which was Alu Rough in the mains and Biphase in the crosses, both @52, has really added the missing power without sacrificing too much on the accuracy, so I'll be staying with it for now and working on my technique!

Hope that's of some help
 
Roms said:
just another think, what to think about the aerostorm tour compared to pst ?
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The AST has alot of its weight in the throat and swings fairly sluggishly. I believe the SW is 340 and you will feel every gram of it :) I never could get it to work for me. It plays very differently than the stats and I think the PST is a much better option.
 
Roms,

I'm afraid I've never played w/a AST.


PED,

How does the MGPP compare to the PST on serve?


All PSTers,

I must admit I'm seriously considering returning to the PST. I've had soreness issues (tendon pains, I think ) with my arm lately, and though I'm convinced it isn't the fault of the PD+ (the racket I changed to at the end of last year) and was caused by a combination of things (most notably, a non-tennis related accident), just for the issue of comfort alone, I surely need to be thinking along these lines?

Then taking that out of the equation, there are a number of other convincing reasons to return to it, as I was reminded of 10 days ago or whenever it was when I played a set with the PST for the 1st time in a long time; such factors as the 98 " head-size, the stability and solidness, the excellent topspin, the powerful serve, the maneuverability, the softer feel and better touch (than most Babs), the balance, the 11.08 static weight, the way it performs on both fh and bh, etc...

:idea: Hmmm... when you actually stop to add them all up, there are a LOT of reasons to give the PST a go eh?

Okay, I confess I was very impressed with a hit I had with the PDR not that long ago and was debating whether or not to take a prolonged look at it (although my sore arm kind of put a damp cloth over this idea slightly.) Plus as ppl familiar with this thread already know, I've had a few grumbles, as it were, with the frame in the past. (One way of remedying some of that that though is to restring with the aim of adding a touch more power, or by experimenting more with lead tape - I'd like to hit a bit of a deeper, heavier ball, like I do with my PD+)...

Anyway, we'll see what happens in the very near future (I'm due to return to playing on Friday.)

R.
 
To add some pop, try the lead at the top of the hoop.


Ross, I find the PP to be better on the serve, equal but different on the FH but not as good as the PST on the 2 handed BH. I've added some lead under the CAP's and that's working nicely so far. I only added 2g as I like the balance-that should put the SW in the mid 320's.
 
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Ross C said:
I can comment (a little late maybe!) on the RQis1 Tour vs PST as I tried an RQiS1T before choosing the PST. RQ felt too underpowered and I struggled to achieve any consistency with it.

My wife has an AG500 Tour, which is a lovely racket (far nicer than the APDC in my opinion) and is another step up in power from the PST, a little lighter althought slightly less head light.

My PST has grown on me since the restring (I had a real dip after the honeymoon period wore off!) which was Alu Rough in the mains and Biphase in the crosses, both @52, has really added the missing power without sacrificing too much on the accuracy, so I'll be staying with it for now and working on my technique!

Hope that's of some help
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I think to prefer the pst that ast with that you said.

Ross C, this is really interesting for me because I know well rqis 1 tour. So first thing I notice is that it is clear that pst is more solid than rqis and more consistent.
The rqis has more control and maneuvrability, but the pst seems better in all other aspect.
Can you tell me if the pst is stiffer and a lot of more stable than rqis ? because I found the yonex too flexible and unstable for its weight (and for its weight the plow trough is not good). Is the difference of power huge ?
One thing I love on the yonex is spin. Do you think pst has good spin potential ?

thanks a lot at all
 
The 16X20 pattern on the PST is about perfect. I've gone back to a 16X19 in the PPro and I miss the control of the 16X20. I don't like 18X20's as they are so dense, but the 16X20 gives a great combo of spin and control-you can really swing away and have it drop in.
 
Ok thanks PED,

I am near sure to buy PST, but I would like to be sure about the built quality of the racquet, if it is solid, because many guys seems to break their babolat. And in your opinion, why pst is cheaper than aerostorm or aeropro ? is it because the materiol is less quality ?
 
Roms said:
Ok thanks PED,

I am near sure to buy PST, but I would like to be sure about the built quality of the racquet, if it is solid, because many guys seems to break their babolat. And in your opinion, why pst is cheaper than aerostorm or aeropro ? is it because the materiol is less quality ?
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maybe i am a little too paranoiak, but I just want to be sure that pst is a good quality stick
 
The only thing i would watch for is the paint on the hoop. I had some peel off when i removed some lead but other than that, the build quality is every bit as good as the other babs. The APDC and PD sell for more since they are more popular and are an easier sale for Bab. The PST is more of a niche stick and not as many people are interested in it since Roddick or Rafa don't use it ;)
 
Ok thanks a lot, I think it is enough for me, the pst is great and I think to go with it. I will just wait result of nex rdis mp, but the pst seems awsome for my game
thanks again
 
guys,

i just fell in love with my PSTs all over again with new string set up.

was using Luxillon Ace 112 (18s) on main and Babolat Fine Play 17s. that was a pretty good set up.

but this week i tried Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour (17s) on main and Fine Play 17s with the same tension.

WOW. more bite on the ball, more control (trade-off is less power, of course), and looks like it will last long as the Ace 112.

i mean, i was WAILING at the FHs and BHs. and shots were landing in by 1/2 feet more than they would with the other string set up. also more topspin.

tomorrow i will try to string it up with Pro Hurricane Tour on main and natural gut on cross.

just my 2 cents
 
I'm reading through the thread ad before I burn out my eyes, could you guys maybe tell me which page or so when there was a comparison between the Aero Storm Tour and the PST? If there is one, if not could you guys give me a quick review. I have 3 AST's and I'm thinking or demoing or maybe even buying a PST when I get in some more money, but I'd like to know how these two frame play. I means the specs are really close and as I hear both are control-oriented frame so you provide most of your power. Again guys sorry to ask for like the millionth time, I just would like some info.
 
Storm Kyori,

You are in luck because i have been hitting with the AST lately.
purchased one in Taiwan while i was on vacation there last 2 weeks.


to ME, AST is stiffer, more headlight, and less power.
It feels like a lot of the racquets weight is on the THROAT area for the AST.

Also, AST goes thru the air easier and faster, so i had to adjust to that. not a good or bad thing, but i had to adjust.

i really like the serves and backhands (1 hand and/or 2 hand, i can hit both) on the AST, but i had a hard time finding my FH.

Nothing feels quite like the PST when you connect a good FH (flat and topspin)

You can generate more spin on the AST, but not by a lot.

I believe the other PST users will tell you they like the BUTTERY feel of the PST (well, you either love it or hate it). reminds ME of my good old Yonex RD-7.

hope this helps.

I have not totally given up on the AST yet, i will try to string it up with Hurrican Pro Tour, maybe i will find my FH.....
 
I'd say it might be due to personal preference. I've been playing with the ASt for about a 1 year now and I transitioned to it from an even balance 102 headsize racquet. It felt really natural to me the first time I started hitting with it. It's added weight made me feel like I could strike the ball at any pace and still have control over it as well as not get pushed around by others. The fact that's it HL is also why it didn't feel much different when swinging, I knew it was more, but still it wasn't to a point where it got heavy for me. Serve and backhands are great again that weight I can use it to really crank my 1hander and when serving I can get decent pace my just using the mass. FH, I have to say I'm more consistent with it than my BH. I find myself spaying my FH when I don't prepare. I use a open to lefty stance on my FH, so it's an awkward position, but I'm use to it now. I thank you for your review and it makes me even more curious on demoing a PST. I might just call up TW and tell them to send me one with my order. I would recommend a softer string that PHT or even a co-poly. I'm using Big Ace @ 62lbs and it feels really good. I had arm trouble with PHT and I haven't changed my serving motion, but once I strung it with a softer string I noticed added pop and no pain when I really went for my serves. I've also used MSV Focus Hex 17L @62 ans same they felt better than PHT. I would say that they were also pretty close on spin.
 
i also want to know if the babolat quality standart are good enough because I have read custommers reviews and some of them broke their stick quickly, without any reason. I am very attratct by pst but I want to be sure that it is solid. is it possible that pst is lower price because of a bad built ?
 
The sticks are not meaningfully cheaper. The APDC and PD are 2 of the best selling sticks in the world so they charge a premium. Q control on the PST is excellent; I had mine for 18 months with no issues at all.
 
ok thanks, maybe user who have problem get a fake, I know that babolat is one of brand with lot of fake.
 
Lots of Bab fakes floating around ;) The PST is a much much better stick than the PS in my opinion. I've owned both and the PST is a much heavier and much more stable piece of equipment. Nothing wrong with the PS but it's different enough that if you really liked the PS than you might not care for the PST. The PST is much softer and packs a bigger punch on groundstrokes than the PS. The PS is 11.0 strung and the PST is 12.0 strung so a big difference there as well.
 
Hey PSTers,

Well, I've been out for a while with something not right in the right forearm region. I've also been away a lot in the last 2 weeks. All in all then, no tennis for a bit. However, tomorrow that's going to change...

Anyhow, having been in a slightly confused mood prior to the injury business (I'd gone back to the PD+... kind of... though I was looking at a few other, pretty different frames - and I still am tbh), one thing I wanted to do is to play again with the PST but with a good whack of lead tape on the sides and at the top of the hoop, and with some added weight on the handle (I've just put on a thick cushiony kind of grip and an overgrip.) Hopefully, this might address some of my small but long-running issues with the rod (I want it even more solid - rock solid - and very stable, and with a bit more power.)

With the lead tape and grip work completed, swinging it around just now, it def felt more, er, primed and weighty... hmmm...

Shall report back my findings tomorrow.

R.

BTW, Would be very interested to hear ppls views/experiences on weighting up their PSTs... I've been on a bit of a "mission" lately, but if I can just add a few more qualities to the frame to go along with the great topspin, pop on serve, feel, touch, manouverability, balance, etc, maybe the mission can come to a halt eh?...
 
How much lead did you add? It's usually a good idea to add in small increments rather than add a ton ("a good whack") at first.
-Robert
 
i think stock form has a good balance.
I am not sure if you really want to add lead. it will make it less flexible at the net or when u are responding to fast shots.
 
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