Amen786
Semi-Pro
Ah. So did you understand their urdu lyrics?
The Quest for THE GRAND SLAM: The Final Leg
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Spencer Gore
Legend
I don't speak or understand any of the languages of the Indian subcontinent, I'm afraid. But I must say, for someone who doesn't understand English you're doing a remarkable job conversing with me.
Strale
Semi-Pro
Lol actually 90 percent of your post is rubbish based on personal preference hahahaah
Bye call me when weak era champ wins 2 RG and 9 AO but dont wrry i will call you when the actual Goat reaches 8 wimblies and 5 Uso
))))Forgot to add that i will call you soon about WTF haahahahahah
Amen786
Semi-Pro
Lol what!!
I never said I don't understand English. But not being native in it makes it so much difficult to catch up with lyrics.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Weak era chump!
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Earths mightiest warrior ready to protect the planet one more time. Once more to the breach! 
BauerAlmeida
Hall of Fame
Like anybody else does listening to music in other languages than their own. Or like they listen to instrumental music. It's music, not reading a book.
ForehandRF
Legend
I was listening to bands like Abba, Bee Gees, Modern Talking, Def Leppard etc when I was a kid and I had no idea about English
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Amen786
Semi-Pro
I was listening to bands Abba, Bee Gees, Modern Talking, Def Leppard etc when I was a kid and I had no idea about English
Vengaboys is my all time favourite album in non-south asian music. Has a kind of thrill to it & I use it for exercise times in past and even today at times. Though I still don't get lyrics lol.
But other than that and opera , I'm really not quite fan of non-south asian music.
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Sunny014
Legend
Weak era chump!
Yup, he face berretini, medvedev, tsitsi, old fed, old nadal types ......indeed novak is the weak era chump
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Breaking the slam record and doing the CYGS at the same time is just awe-inspiring to think about. If not the Murray dream (that will be over today, most likely) then I'm wishing him the best of luck to do it.
Sunny014
Legend
Lol actually 90 percent of your post is rubbish based on personal preference hahahaah
Bye call me when weak era champ wins 2 RG and 9 AO but dont wrry i will call you when the actual Goat reaches 8 wimblies and 5 Uso
Forgot to add that i will call you soon about WTF haahahahahah
2 RGs won vs old nadal have as much value as Fed's fluke RG.
9 AOs are impressive but don't matter a lot because Fed has more USOs and wimbledons, so Fed is ahead in the 2 most important slams.
Amen786
Semi-Pro
It is not Djokovic's fault if federer lets him off the hook from winning positions everytime in the 3 of the 4 latest grandslam finals they played.
Its also not Djokovic's fault if young players can't finish him off.
Amen786
Semi-Pro
I can't comment because I don't follow that sport.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
I was talking about your 40-15 man
Sunny014
Legend
I was talking about *******
Doesn't matter, everyone knows who is the weakest champ of them all, surrendered to pigeons at his peak, has a losing h2h to Safin and Roddick, got booted out of USO like some second grade chump .... thats novak, the true weak era chump
Amen786
Semi-Pro
Federer's biggest negative point is his inability to close out biggest moments in biggest matches with his biggest weapons (forehand & serve). Its usually these two shots which faulter for no reason, despite delivering deadly blows all match.I was talking about your 40-15 man
Alfred Chicken
Rookie
From God-complex-bottle-fed son of a ski instructor fitted with a distinct Napoleon complex to motherly-appointed Kingslayer to Nietzschean ubermensch who - acting as transcendental carnifex - eventually ends God himself; that's one hell of an epic character arc.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Yet Federer has over 25 plus people who lead him in the H2H and Novak has only 11. Federer losing to chumps like tsonga, delpo and berdych in his prime at Wimbledon and us open. You of course ignore this? Federer losing to safin in Australia 2005 as well.
Spencer Gore
Legend
Easy for you to say.
Sunny014
Legend
Yet Federer is one who is regarded by many as the GOAT while your inferior boy is booed and considered second grade.
We play matches for the crowd and the crowd form opinions, stats are like residue, nobody cares for stats once opinions are formed.
The ones in minority like you should know that the majority feel Fed is the GOAT for a reason and that is the endgame !
CCPass
Semi-Pro
Or both.
I didn't bring up Federer, just pointing out that it's quite silly to compare him to McDonalds.
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I can see you dont understand the difference between being the best and being the most popular. What is silly is that someone needs to explain you this over and over again, but you still dont comprehend.
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I can see you dont understand the difference between being the best and being the most popular. What is silly is that someone needs to explain you this over and over again, but you still dont comprehend.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
I can see you dont understand the difference between being the best and being the most popular. What is silly is that someone needs to explain you this over and over again, but you still dont comprehend.
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When did I say Federer was the best? Sad how easily some people become confused.
Spencer Gore
Legend
FIRST ROUND
1933 JACK CRAWFORD (Australia)
Crawford didn't want to play the US Championship. He was exhausted after five months on the road and 13 straight tournament wins in a row, but his home association was paid a $1500 guarantee by the USLTA, so he had to play.
He had the easiest of starts: a bye in the first round. The sixteen seeds all made it safely through.
New York Times columnist John Kiernan wrote: 'If Crawford wins, it would be something like scoring a grand slam on the courts"
The Grand Slam was born.
1933 JACK CRAWFORD (Australia)
Crawford didn't want to play the US Championship. He was exhausted after five months on the road and 13 straight tournament wins in a row, but his home association was paid a $1500 guarantee by the USLTA, so he had to play.
He had the easiest of starts: a bye in the first round. The sixteen seeds all made it safely through.
New York Times columnist John Kiernan wrote: 'If Crawford wins, it would be something like scoring a grand slam on the courts"
The Grand Slam was born.
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When did I say Federer was the best? Sad how easily some people become confused.
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Then its fine. I say Djokovic is the best player of all time and Federer the most popular. Then we are in agreement. Federer is by far the most popular tennis player ever. Also Danielle Steel is one of the best seeling and popular authors in history, but I dont read her books, I preffer Dostoyevsky.
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Alfred Chicken
Rookie
Well, you were the one who handed the say to me on a tasty plate, hence I just couldn't keep away from it.
Spencer Gore
Legend
FIRST ROUND
1938 DONALD BUDGE (USA)
Budge had been suffering from flu -at one point he lost his voice - but he got off to the easiest of starts at Forest Hills, a bye in the First Round.
4th international seed Destremau of France was the only seed to lose in this round.
1938 DONALD BUDGE (USA)
Budge had been suffering from flu -at one point he lost his voice - but he got off to the easiest of starts at Forest Hills, a bye in the First Round.
4th international seed Destremau of France was the only seed to lose in this round.
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ScentOfDefeat
G.O.A.T.
Great idea and excellent thread.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Spencer Gore
Legend
FIRST ROUND
1956 LEW HOAD (Australia)
The Diamond Jubilee year of the US Championships at Forest Hills saw Hoad comfortably beat Walraven(USA) 6-0, 6-2, 6-0 in the opening round.
All of the seeds made it safely through to the second round.
1956 LEW HOAD (Australia)
The Diamond Jubilee year of the US Championships at Forest Hills saw Hoad comfortably beat Walraven(USA) 6-0, 6-2, 6-0 in the opening round.
All of the seeds made it safely through to the second round.
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Spencer Gore
Legend
FIRST ROUND
1962 ROD LAVER (Australia)
Don Budge invited Laver to spend a day in the Catskills before the tournament -even playing a couple of sets with him. It got the rocket in tune; he won his first round match comfortably, 6-2, 6-3, 6-2 against Davidman of Israel.
There were no shocks in the first round. All the seeds were safely through.
1962 ROD LAVER (Australia)
Don Budge invited Laver to spend a day in the Catskills before the tournament -even playing a couple of sets with him. It got the rocket in tune; he won his first round match comfortably, 6-2, 6-3, 6-2 against Davidman of Israel.
There were no shocks in the first round. All the seeds were safely through.
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Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Nevermind. I promise I will concentrate my hate only in this one.
Spencer Gore
Legend
FIRST ROUND
1969 ROD LAVER (Australia)
The Rocket prepared for his tilt at a unique Double Grand Slam by knocking up and listening to albums (Aretha Franklin, Dave Brubeck, Jose Feliciano) with New Zealand Davis Cup player, John McDonald.
Laver won easily 6-2, 6-4, 6-2 against Garcia of Mexico in his first match.
Meanwhile, Ken Rosewall survived a 5 set thriller but 8th seed, Drysdale, and 5th seed, Okker, were shock losers in the first round.
1969 ROD LAVER (Australia)
The Rocket prepared for his tilt at a unique Double Grand Slam by knocking up and listening to albums (Aretha Franklin, Dave Brubeck, Jose Feliciano) with New Zealand Davis Cup player, John McDonald.
Laver won easily 6-2, 6-4, 6-2 against Garcia of Mexico in his first match.
Meanwhile, Ken Rosewall survived a 5 set thriller but 8th seed, Drysdale, and 5th seed, Okker, were shock losers in the first round.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
Have heard that style of singing on the radio. It seems like they are not using the standard Western musical scale. They are singing a lot of quarter tones. Correct?
Spencer Gore
Legend
Indian music doesn't use the Western 12 tone equal temperament scales, so it sounds very strange to our ears. It uses a variety of different scales I believe. I remember an Indian musician showing me a scale with 22 notes.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
Indian music uses both the Western scale (most of the silly Bollywood films?) and non-Western scales. Some singers sound like they are singing a lot of quarter tones. Their voices still sound pleasing. But don't think Mick and Paul could sing like that. They are used to singing 12 tones.
Spencer Gore
Legend
Spencer Gore
Legend
Updated below.
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Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
Backing instruments like sitar naturally produce quarter tones. It is true. But it is not clear that George is singing quarter tones. The vocal is still using the 12 tones found in Western. Not quarter tones.
The melody conforms to the pitches of Mixolydian mode, or its Indian equivalent, the Kham. Musicologist Dominic Pedler writes that the tune features unusual tritone intervals, which, together with the musical arrangement, ensure that the song is far removed from standard "pop tunes". In a further departure from Harrison's previous forays into Indian music, both of which made extensive use of single-chord drone, the melody allows for formal chord changes: over the verses, the dominant E♭ major alternates with F minor, before a move to A♭ over the line "The farther one travels the less one knows".
In the opening words ("Without going out"), the melody uses what Pedler terms a "hauntingly modal" G-B♭-D♭ tritone progression as, within the song's tonic key (of E♭), the 3rd note heads towards the flat 7th.[39] Musicologist Walter Everett likens this ascending arpeggiation of the diminished triad to a melodic feature in "Within You Without You" (over that song's recurring phrase "We were talking").[41]
"The Inner Light" is an example of Harrison creating ambiguity about the tonic key, a technique that Pedler recognises as a characteristic of Harrison's spiritually oriented songwriting
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Yep--garbage is often most popular, it has nothing to do with quality or importance--similar to tennis players.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Some people are so rattled and insecure about players such as Federer (who was forced into this thread) who failed to win the Grand Slam, that they have to post meaningless stats as a last ditch effort to give him "credits".
Spencer Gore
Legend
FIRST ROUND
2021 NOVAK DJOKOVIC (Serbia)
Top seed, Djokovic, played no warm up tournaments before his attempt at the Grand Slam at Flushing Meadows.
His first round opponent was 18 year old Dane, Holger Rune (former French Junior champion), ranked 145 in the world. Djokovic struggled in the second set but came through 6-1, 6-7, 6-2, 6-1
Former US champions Murray and Cilic lost in the first round, alongside seeds Carreño Busta, de Minaur, Isner, Sonego, Humbert, Khachanov, Norris, Goffin, Fognini, Fokina and Krajinovic.
2021 NOVAK DJOKOVIC (Serbia)
Top seed, Djokovic, played no warm up tournaments before his attempt at the Grand Slam at Flushing Meadows.
His first round opponent was 18 year old Dane, Holger Rune (former French Junior champion), ranked 145 in the world. Djokovic struggled in the second set but came through 6-1, 6-7, 6-2, 6-1
Former US champions Murray and Cilic lost in the first round, alongside seeds Carreño Busta, de Minaur, Isner, Sonego, Humbert, Khachanov, Norris, Goffin, Fognini, Fokina and Krajinovic.
Opinions are formed and based on stats first.
A Federer with 10 GS and 4 billion fans would never become the GOAT. And if social media existed in the 90s then Agassi would have probably crushed any player when it comes to fanbase and followers but Sampras was the one dominating the tour, not Andre.
Sunny014
Legend
Agassi is a more complete player than Sampras.
Had he focussed more in his early years then he would have had 10-12 slams and had the courts been like the modern day then Agassi would have been on 15 slams and Pete would be on 10 slams.
Agassi rocks !!!
If this were football we could say things like this about certain players but tennis is an individual sport and the fact is that Sampras is way above Agassi in terms of overall success and h2h stats.
You mean had Agassi been a woman he would have played against Steffi.
The fact that the courts were much more diverse and the players played different styles then means it was a lot tougher to play Roland Garros first and 3 weeks later Wimbledon.
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