The question has finally been answered: Kyrgios could win slams if he trained hard

[Lleytonstation]

He reached the WC final and put a decent effort.

Obviously he isn't a tennis player, but a server who plays tennis.

If he had a slightly better ROS, slightly better fitness, slightly better ground game, and actually cared...

HE WOULD WIN MULTIPLE SLAMS. Period.

Just imagine if he was 10-15% better on all those things. He might still lose this WC but would definitely find a way to win slams going forward.

 

[Standaa]

too bad training hard is part of the game

 

[initialize]

I think it’s a possibility MAYBE considering we’re in the Career Inflation Era where anything is truly possible

 

[Lleytonstation]

too bad training hard is part of the game

Obviously. Obviously he won't. But many think it wouldn't matter. It clearly does.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Kyrgios looking good. Will beat Sampras 9-1.

 

[kishnabe]

He would have a slam now, if he kept working on his game.

 

[accidental]

He made this final because he had the easiest draw of any player in the weakest Wimbledon in recent history, and then got a walkover in the semis

The last 2 players he faced before the final against Djokovic were Cristian Garin and Brandon Nakashima

 

[pabletion]

And my grandma could be a bicycle if she had wheels.......

NK just isn't up to putting in that extra effort it actually takes.

He might be one of the most talented tennis players ever, but that alone wont wver cut it.

I think this is his ONE SHOT.

 

[MichaelNadal]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1546162332178518017

Nick is epic

 

[BGod]

Wawrinka won his first Slam at 29 no?

 

[PSNELKE]

No he can't. He's mentally challenged and instable and clearly a danger for himself and others

 

[Lleytonstation]

Wawrinka won his first Slam at 29 no?

But he had the mindset.

 

[spottishwood]

RIP

 

[Azure]

No. He doesn’t have the ground game nor the mentality.

 

[Marco Rotim]

He can still win WImbledon in future since his serve is very good.

But he has to keep on working hard for next few years.

 

[weakera]

He fluked into the final with the easiest path to a final in history, only Djokovic's last two Wimbledon paths might have been as easy

 

[jl809]

If he ever wins a Wimbledon it’s a **** look for the sport. He can’t rally, his return of serve is atrocious. Him and Berrettini frauded their way to finals off easy draws with a big serve and little else

 

[Omega_7000]

Talent ot not....He's proved that he is just another next gen mug

 

[Omega_7000]

If he ever wins a Wimbledon it’s a **** look for the sport. He can’t rally, his return of serve is atrocious. Him and Berrettini frauded their way to finals off easy draws with a big serve and little else

Yeah the ground game really gets exposed against Djokovic

 

[Rafa24]

Only reason he even got here was russians banned, cilic covid, berretini covid, nadal withdraw from semi. Dude has no chance to ever win a slam again. Bookmark this.

 

[Jonas78]

Its a tragedy. With the thinnest talent base in tennis history, the few talents you have doesnt care about winning.

 

[Rafa24]

He made this final because he had the easiest draw of any player in the weakest Wimbledon in recent history, and then got a walkover in the semis

The last 2 players he faced before the final against Djokovic were Cristian Garin and Brandon Nakashima

yup.

 

[RelentlessAttack]

He played better than I expected to be honest, but unfortunately he’s just not serious enough about training. Its probably too late for him to improve his movement and defense significantly

 

[BGod]

Only reason he even got here was russians banned, cilic covid, berretini covid, nadal withdraw from semi. Dude has no chance to ever win a slam again. Bookmark this.

Devil's advocate though, there could be several vulnerable draws to take advantage of in the next few years.

 

[Rafa24]

nick says he's not ready for more and tired and exhausted. bruh u had 4 days off.

 

[jl809]

Hopefully this ends Kyrgios’ own claims that he’s as talented as the big 3. He seems to have realised how good Djokovic is

 

[Botschek]

If he had a slightly better ROS, slightly better fitness, slightly better ground game, and actually cared...

He cares a lot. Why are people get fooled so easily and and keep hanging to this lie? He is simply overrated. Nice Youtube Highlight clips...nothing more.

 

[Fabresque]

Unfortunately he has to focus for 7 straight matches, and while he was close this time, can’t see that really happening.

 

[InsideOut900]

Nick played well today.

Thing is, very few of the past Slam winners would be more accessible than Novak today. Nick doesn't have it in him to play at that level.

 

[vex]

He reached the WC final and put a decent effort.

Obviously he isn't a tennis player, but a server who plays tennis.

If he had a slightly better ROS, slightly better fitness, slightly better ground game, and actually cared...

HE WOULD WIN MULTIPLE SLAMS. Period.

Just imagine if he was 10-15% better on all those things. He might still lose this WC but would definitely find a way to win slams going forward.

I don’t think so. There are tons of guys who COULD beat the field if the B3 didn’t exist. But 63 slams has rendered plenty of guys “not a slam winner”. Here, he didn’t beat Djoker or Rafa.

 

[Rafa24]

Devil's advocate though, there could be several vulnerable draws to take advantage of in the next few years.

i can't see one ever being this easy again. cilic out with covid, berretini out with covid(in nicks 1/4). Russians banned. Zverev hurt. walkover in semis. Hardcourts he can't do this. If he got a draw like this in wimbledon it's possible.

 

[Steve0904]

And my grandma could be a bicycle if she had wheels.......

NK just isn't up to putting in that extra effort it actually takes.

He might be one of the most talented tennis players ever, but that alone wont wver cut it.

I think this is his ONE SHOT.

I agree. I don't see it ever happening for him now. Wimbledon is the only slam he has a real shot at because the other courts are too slow so his serve won't be as dominant.

As far as NK putting in effort, yeah he should be top 10 maybe even top 5 with that serve alone, and his baseline game isn't the worst. Not great obviously, but not the worst. I wouldn't guarantee a slam if he worked harder though. He'd probably get shut out by Nadal and Djokovic too, and his only chances at winning slams would be tournaments like USO 2020 or 2021. Some off chance where Nadal or Djokovic either play like crap or are not there to stop him at all.

Too bad for him that those slams were taken by harder working players. Nick might have one now if he just worked harder from the start.

 

[clayqueen]

Obviously he isn't a tennis player, but a server who plays tennis.

My thoughts as well.

 

[Lleytonstation]

He cares a lot. Why are people get fooled so easily and and keep hanging to this lie? He is simply overrated. Nice Youtube Highlight clips...nothing more.

If he cared he would train.

 

[clayqueen]

i can't see one ever being this easy again. cilic out with covid, berretini out with covid(in nicks 1/4). Russians banned. Zverev hurt. walkover in semis. Hardcourts he can't do this. If he got a draw like this in wimbledon it's possible.

And Rafa giving him a WO in the SF.

 

[clayqueen]

Nick would have given anything to win a slam today but he just wasn't up to it. Imagine to way he would have used a Wimbledon title to taunt the likes of Tsitsipas and Zverev.

 

[NoleFam]

He honestly could. He played very very well today and at this tournament.

 

[clayqueen]

Kyrgios not winning the title makes it hard for him to brag about making a slam final because he got a WO.

 

[BGod]

i can't see one ever being this easy again. cilic out with covid, berretini out with covid(in nicks 1/4). Russians banned. Zverev hurt. walkover in semis. Hardcourts he can't do this. If he got a draw like this in wimbledon it's possible.

I call recency bias. Nadal's 2017/2019 USO draws were legendary cakewalks. The Russian ban was largely inconsequential with Khachanov having the highest ceiling on grass, Zverev underwhelming and Berrettini being a fellow mug. Cilic yeag looked good.

In terms of surface I think AO is fast enough and home crowd bump. Lot of bum draws coming forward will open the floor.

 

[Silverbullet96]

It's not really that simple that you can just change one thing about him, I think he's going to be more or less the same for the rest of his career, a flash in the pan. I don't believe that he's going to become a professional and a tryhard in the middle of his career. In fact, I feel like he's not going to be beating Djokovic and Nadal ever again, he barely beat Nadal the last time.

 

[Rafa24]

I call recency bias. Nadal's 2017/2019 USO draws were legendary cakewalks. The Russian ban was largely inconsequential with Khachanov having the highest ceiling on grass, Zverev underwhelming and Berrettini being a fellow mug. Cilic yeag looked good.

In terms of surface I think AO is fast enough and home crowd bump. Lot of bum draws coming forward will open the floor.

2017 he beat Delpo who was in form and took out the 3 seed RF the round before. Beat Anderson in the final who has made 2 slam finals in his career now. To me that is tougher than this year.

2019 he beat cilic(former slam winner), Schwartzman, berretini and medvedev.


To say djokers run here wasn't easier than either of those is laughable.

 

[big ted]

if he can win one i dont see him winning anything outside of wimbledon

 

[BGod]

2017 he beat Delpo who was in form and took out the 3 seed RF the round before. Beat Anderson in the final who has made 2 slam finals in his career now. To me that is tougher than this year.

2019 he beat cilic(former slam winner), Schwartzman, berretini and medvedev.


To say djokers run here wasn't easier than either of those is laughable.

You throw around names like people hyping NBA teams signing vets.

In 2019 Schwartzman was every bit the clay man he always has been seeded 30th, Berrettini was seeded 24th himself with easy draw and Daniil had his breakthrough beating Dimitrov in his Semifinal. Yes 2019 was absolute dumpster dive. In 2017 Nadal got a tired Delpo who was on the comeback trail which is why he beat him the following year, everyone elss including Anderson was badly outmatched.

 

[Botschek]

If he cared he would train.

Do you/we actualy realy know he doesnt train? Hard to believe someone who doesnt train or train very little can even last three four matches without collapsing.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Do you/we actualy realy know he doesnt train? Hard to believe someone who doesnt train or train very little can even last three four matches without collapsing.

Well he did have shoulder issue this tourney and gets injured quite a bit.

 

[clayqueen]

The stars almost aligned for Kyrgios at Wimbledon this year because he only had to beat Jubb, Krajinovic, Tsitsipas, Nakashima and Garin the got a WO from Rafa. Tsitsipas was the only top player he played all the way to the final.

 

[Thetouch]

This proves how much worth his h2h 2:0 against Djokovic in small tournaments truly was or against Nadal for that matter. Hopefully this argument will die once and for all even though you never know with this forum

 

[Botschek]

Well he did have shoulder issue this tourney and gets injured quite a bit.

At least for me thats an indicator that he actualy trains quite a lot. Usualy the more you work/train the more strain you are putting on your body und the more injuries/niggles you will prolly have.

 

[MeatTornado]

Only reason he even got here was russians banned, cilic covid, berretini covid, nadal withdraw from semi. Dude has no chance to ever win a slam again. Bookmark this.

He was not losing to Med/Rublev/Karen on grass in this form. Berrettini would've been a battle though.

 

[Lleytonstation]

At least for me thats an indicator that he actualy trains quite a lot. Usualy the more you work/train the more strain you are putting on your body und the more injuries/niggles you will prolly have.

Opposite. You don't train and then all the sudden you play a slam and reach the finals your body isn't used to it.