The Rogers Cup Masters Prediction League (Eighth in Series)...!!

We are in @ for the 8th in the series, this being the 2009 Rogers Cup Masters Prediction League

CHANGE of Points Scoring Rules(MUST READ)
FOR EVERY MATCH you predict the winner and the score they win by in sets. Predict the correct winner but the wrong score in sets, you'll now get THREE POINTS. However, if you also nail the score line in sets, (ie, Nadal beats Murray 2 set to love) you’ll get FIVE POINTS.

Each predictor is also able to pick a winner and runner up of the respective tournament (they have approximately up to a day before the FIRST ROUND MATCH in which to do this) Come the conclusion of the tournament – ten points will be given to each predictor that predicts BOTH the correct winner and runner up and five points for the one or the other.

If you grasp a sudden urge to change one or more predictions that you may already have posted, please make a new post, so I am aware of the time it was posted and can validate that the prediction was made before the respective match / matches. (Editing posts makes matters complicated)

Player Retirement Rules
1. If there is a walkover, the match is void.
2. If there is a retirement, and you picked the person that doesn't retire, you get 3 points. No matter the sets or score.
3. If there is a lucky loser situation and you picked the person the lucky loser replaced and the lucky loser wins, you get points accordingly (3 for correct winner, 5 for correct winner and set). If you picked the opponent and they win, you get points accordingly.


PREDICTION LEAGUE CALENDAR

GRANDSLAM EVENTS -2000
FRENCH OPEN PREDICTION CHAMPION - CHELSEA_KIWI and TENNIS_MAESTRO
FRENCH OPEN PREDICTION RUNNER UP - VIVALAVIDA

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=261714 - FRENCH OPEN

SW19 WIMBLEDON GRANDSLAM PREDICTION CHAMPION - SHADOWS
SW19 WIMBLEDON RUNNER UP - THEDUH

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=267822 - WIMBLEDON

US OPEN PREDICTION CHAMPION - ??????????????????????????
US OPEN PREDICTION RUNNER UP - ?????????????????????????????


MASTER'S SERIES EVENTS - 1000
Miami Masters prediction Champion - Shadows
Miami Masters prediction Runner up - Tennis_Maestro
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=252020 - Miami Masters

Monte Carlo Masters prediction Champion - Shadows
Monte Carlo Masters prediction Runner up - Tennis_Maestro
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=254587 - Monte Carlo Masters

Rome Masters prediction Champion's - Chelsea_Kiwi, VivalaVida, and Shadows
Rome Masters prediction Runner up - Tennis_Maestro
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=257531 - Rome Masters

Madrid Masters prediction Champion - Safinator_1
Madrid Masters prediction Runner up - Tennis_Maestro
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=259191 - Madrid Masters


Rogers Cup Masters prediction Champion - ????????
Rogers Cup Masters prediction Runner up - ???????
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=278549 - Rogers Cup Masters


ATP WORLD TOUR EVENTS - 250
Queens Aegon Championships prediction Champion -TheJoe
Queens Aegon Championships prediction Runner up - TheDuh

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=266227 - Queens Aegon Championships

Halle Gerry Weber Open prediction Champion - Seffina
Halle Gerry Weber Open prediction Runner up - Shadows
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=266227 - Gerry Weber Open


TROPHY CABINET
Grandslam Prediction Titles
Tennis_Maestro - 1
Chelsea_Kiwi- 1
Shadows - 1


Master's Series Event Prediction Titles
Shadows - 3
Chelsea_Kiwi - 1
VivaLaVida - 1
Safinator_1 - 1


ATP Tour 250 Prediction Titles
TheJoe - 1
Seffina - 1


Overall ATP / Masters Series / GRANDSLAM Prediction League Grand Leaderboard Standings:

1. Shadows - 81 points
2. Tennis_Maestro - 55 points
3. Chelsea_Kiwi – 54 points
4. The_Duh – 49 points
5. Seffina – 48 points
6. Viva_Lavida - 43 points
7. IceDevil0289 – 34 points
8. Mizuno – 34 points
9. JamesBlakeFan#1 – 32 points
10. RoddickAce - 22 points
11. Tudwell – 21 points
12. FlamEnemy – 16 points
13. T100 – 13 points
14. SliceKick – 12 points

15. L_Gonzalez – 11 points
15. TheNatural – 11 points
16. TheJoe – 10 points
16. Safinator_1 – 10 points
17. Aphex 9 points
18. Fedtastic – 8 points
18. Batz – 8 points
18. Cocacola – 8 points
18. Claiment – 8 points
19. Salsainglesa - 6 points
19. Woodrow1029 – 6 points
20. Zagor – 4 points
21. Breaker – 3 points
22. TBobLP – 1 point


ATP Master's Series Points System
First place - 12 Points
Second place - 10 Points
Third place - 9 Points
Fourth place - 8 Points
Fifth place - 7 Point
Sixth - 6 Points
Seventh - 5 Points
Eighth - 4 Points
Ninth - 3 Points
Tenth - 2 Points
Eleventh - 1 Point
Twelfth - 1/2 Point for trying < Not really, just a **** take lol


SEFFINA IS YOUR POINTS ADJUDICATOR!

Sidenote: Disruptive/aggresive/obnoxious posting from anyone will result in a warning, if it continues the player will promptly become disqualified from the game for the remainder of the tournament.

HAVE FUN

Please post here to Check in:
Tennis_Maestro
OddJack
JamesBlakeFan#1
Shadows
DoubleDeuce
Chelsea_Kiwi
xtennisloverx
CocaCola
フェデラー
SmackThat
FlamEnemy
T1000
IceDevil0289
Blinkism
TheDuh
Deltox
theroleoftheunderdog
Seffina
TheJoe
RoddickAce
Mizuno
SliceKick95
DarthMaul

To the two newbies whom seem to be disintoriated with the cancellation of the Indianapolis prediction league lol, I am self employed and not getting paid for running these leagues, myself and another person have ran a previous 7 leagues in this fashion with no delays or cancellations, i believe cancelling one which no player had no quarms about cancelling did no harm @ all.

Yes, i came up with an intriguingly, creative and fun idea in which i sacrifice quite a bit of my active lifestyle managing. (I'd hardly call that lazy, would you?)

You've missed several outstanding tournament prediction league's in which there have been monstrous battles and light hearted banter between opponents over the last 6 months, if you had been a part of them or even witnessed how they'd been played out, you’d have realised going through with the poor turnout for a tournament that didn't have a single player in the top 20 competing inside it would've taken away a lot of soul from the league as an entirety.
 
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Excuse me? No one wanted to compete in the Indianapolis one, for many obvious reasons, cancelling was the best thing to do.

No, excuse me,

few people took the time and posted predictions. Even if only two people participating it should've continued.

Listen, I like what you're doing, ok? but no excuses, just finish what you start, that's all. In respect to those who participate and spend the time.

cheers
 
No, excuse me,

few people took the time and posted predictions. Even if only two people participating it should've continued.

Listen, I like what you're doing, ok? but no excuses, just finish what you start, that's all. In respect to those who participate and spend the time.

cheers

LOL!

You contributed towards the decline in participation figures so i believe you have no room to field in your politically correct garbage, infact you've not been here for any of the previous Master's Series, so i'd suggest you keep your attemptive snide and patronising remarks to yourself or not play period.

Thanks.
 
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No Washington? Aw shucks...

Oh well, I'm in. Hopefully Fed and Rafa are too! :D

Toomany player's were making their feelings known about us doing miniature events, so i've decided its best we keep it to Master's Series and Grandslams for the near distant future, unless we get an array of people that fancy a 500 event.
 
LOL!

You contributed towards the decline in participation figures so i believe you have no room to field in your politically correct garbage, infact you've not been here for any of the previous Master's Series, so i'd suggest you keep your snide attemptive, snide and patronising remarks to yourself or not play period.

Thanks.

Whethr I have been here for the previous masters or not is irrelevant, and the way you're responding is just telling what a jerk you are. Seems like it hit the right spot huh? you sound pretty touchy. If your ass is too wide to finish what you start why start at all, huh? lol tighten it up next time...
 
Whethr I have been here for the previous masters or not is irrelevant, and the way you're responding is just telling what a jerk you are. Seems like it hit the right spot huh? you sound pretty touchy. If your ass is too wide to finish what you start why start at all, huh? lol tighten it up next time...

One its not irrelevant, two, with that aside, i will not conduct a league that has as little as 5 participants competing in it, (whom aern't even keen on competing) that is what you class as "irrelvant". If you are too thick or ignorant to understand my legitimate reasons for cancelling then thats your issue not mine.

Ass too wide? Is that the best you could come up with for an insult? That takes poorness on to such a new level, i'm not even going to respond to it. :)

If you want to be the new GJ011 and have yourself disqualified from the game, by all means carry on with the drivel.

EDIT: Several competitors were extatic at it being canelled as well.

I have no idea why we are doing this tournament.

Great! Just leave it till the Masters the only reason Queens/Halle worked is because there is not any Grass Masters tournaments.

Great news! See you in the next Masters Event.

In addition with this YOU pulled out; i shouldn't even be defending my decision.
 
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I am not too sure about this one anymore. OddJack has some very valid points that you have not addressed yet. Also, will you be changing rules mid-way through and invent new ones with secret ballots and such? I just want to make sure I understand what you are trying to pull here this time.
 
I am not too sure about this one anymore. OddJack has some very valid points that you have not addressed yet. Also, will you be changing rules mid-way through and invent new ones with secret ballots and such? I just want to make sure I understand what you are trying to pull here this time.

Aha!

GJ011 back on another username, very subtle, i'll give it to you on that one.

*Yawns*

If you don't like it, don't play, i won't be saying anything further on the matter, especially as your here purely to get a reaction and cause friction.
 
One its not irrelevant, two, with that aside, i will not conduct a league that has as little as 5 participants competing in it, that it what you call "irrelvant". If you are too thick or ignorant to gage why that is, thats your problem, not mine.

Ass too wide? Is that the best you could come up with for an insult? That take poorness on to such a new level, i'm not even going to respond to it. :)

If you want to be the new GJ011 and have yourself disqualified from the game, by all means carry on with the drivel.

How the fact that I did not participate in previous masters is relevant to what I am saying here?

If 5 players is not enough, why it's not listed in your rules and requirements for the game? What if 6 players participate? So you're saying you just ignore the time players spend and call it off because it doesn't worth it to you? How ignorant is that? Just sad that such a interesting idea should be run by a lazy person. You really should've just said sorry for what you did and try to do better next time.

As far as insult goes, dont call people opinions "garbage", You are the one who's running the league so try to keep it professional.
 
Aha!

GJ011 back on another username, very subtle, i'll give it to you on that one.

*Yawns*

If you don't like it, don't play, i won't be saying anything further on the matter, especially as your here purely to get a reaction and cause friction.

hhahaa best thing you can do? I am gj011 and this other poster is too? sorry dude, it's just lame to try to discredit everyone simply by calling them names.
Just step back , breath and accept criticism, this is how the league can improve. Dont get mad, and quit name calling Maestro
 
Why can't we be friends? It's only a game, guys. Let's act like adults here. Please?

James, read my original posts, I, very nicely, just asked him to finish what he starts and he gets mad and calls my points garbage. We can have this league run by someone with better manners who's respectful to players also.
 
James, read my original posts, I, very nicely, just asked him to finish what he starts and he gets mad and calls my points garbage. We can have this league run by someone with better manners who's respectful to players also.

What are we fighting about? Not doing Indy? I see both sides - OJ was interested in making the picks, but there were several others who had zero interest. So TM made his decision. You may disagree (which I did at the time) but so what? Get over it and move on.

The Indy game's over and done w/ so just let it be and hope for the best for our Canada game.

And TM, you were a bit harsh, but OJ you were wrong as well for objecting to the cancellation of Indy 2 weeks after the fact. Was something said at the time? I can't remember.

I just looked back at it, and you made no objection back then in the indy thread, OJ, so why bring it up now? It's water under the bridge. Let's just forget a/b it and have fun w/ the TMS Canada game. No reason for fights. Believe me I know from experience w/ a certain someone during the FO. It's not worth it.
 
Hey Maestro,

Even though I pulled out of the last game, I expect this one to keep going to final and finish, no calling it off man. People put in time and play, not nice to just cancel it midway dude.
 
If 5 players is not enough, why it's not listed in your rules and requirements for the game? What if 6 players participate? So you're saying you just ignore the time players spend and call it off because it doesn't worth it to you? How ignorant is that? Just sad that such a interesting idea should be run by a lazy person. You really should've just said sorry for what you did and try to do better next time.

As far as insult goes, dont call people opinions "garbage", You are the one who's running the league so try to keep it professional.

Why should it be stated in the rules and regulations?

I am self employed and not getting paid for running these leagues, myself and another person have ran a previous 7 leagues in this fashion with no delays or cancellations, i believe cancelling one which no player had no quarms about cancelling did no harm @ all.

Yes, i came up with an intriguingly, creative and fun idea in which i sacrifice quite a bit of my active lifestyle managing. (I'd hardly call that lazy, would you?)

You've missed several outstanding tournament prediction league's in which there have been monstrous battles and light hearted banter between opponents over the last 6 months, if you had been a part of them or even witnessed how they'd been played out, you’d have realised going through with the poor turnout for a tournament that didn't have a single player in the top 20 competing inside it would've taken away a lot of soul from the league as an entirety.
 
James, read my original posts, I, very nicely, just asked him to finish what he starts and he gets mad and calls my points garbage. We can have this league run by someone with better manners who's respectful to players also.

As i said, i am not getting paid for doing this league, so i won't be running it unless their is a point to running it. If you don't like the way i conduct myself towards you, don't dish out your unthoughtout obnoxious remarks.

I suggested you were the NEW GJ011 - The real GJ011 is theretiredone

Read the rest of my previous post.
 
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No, I was going to respond to you.

It's not like its some big labor to come and make picks lets be serious here. It takes what, 5 minutes to pick a few tennis matches. So what if he cancelled? Some disagreed, myself included, but life goes on, no reason to be so upset, and let's just move forward and have more fun w/ this game.

And it wasn't halfway through the tournament, it was still day 1 of play if I remember correctly, so it's not like someone had a win taken from them or anything. Big deal out of a little deal. Mountain of a molehill.
 
OddJack why are you coming in here all aggressive? It is not needed. Please get over yourself very quickly as you are already spoiling this tournament.

T_M I am in.
 
What are we fighting about? Not doing Indy? I see both sides - OJ was interested in making the picks, but there were several others who had zero interest. So TM made his decision. You may disagree (which I did at the time) but so what? Get over it and move on.

The Indy game's over and done w/ so just let it be and hope for the best for our Canada game.

And TM, you were a bit harsh, but OJ you were wrong as well for objecting to the cancellation of Indy 2 weeks after the fact. Was something said at the time? I can't remember.

I just looked back at it, and you made no objection back then in the indy thread, OJ, so why bring it up now? It's water under the bridge. Let's just forget a/b it and have fun w/ the TMS Canada game. No reason for fights. Believe me I know from experience w/ a certain someone during the FO. It's not worth it.
What objeciton? there was no discussion to have room for objection, what are you talking about?
opinion of those who are participating can improve this and eventually more people would participate, why call it "garbage"? Just do it more mature, instead of acting like a baby who has got a toy and pulls it away whenever he wants.
 
No, I was going to respond to you.

It's not like its some big labor to come and make picks lets be serious here. It takes what, 5 minutes to pick a few tennis matches. So what if he cancelled? Some disagreed, myself included, but life goes on, no reason to be so upset, and let's just move forward and have more fun w/ this game.

And it wasn't halfway through the tournament, it was still day 1 of play if I remember correctly, so it's not like someone had a win taken from them or anything. Big deal out of a little deal. Mountain of a molehill.

Thank you bro. :D
 
What objeciton? there was no discussion to have room for objection, what are you talking about?
opinion of those who are participating can improve this and eventually more people would participate, why call it "garbage"? Just do it more mature, instead of acting like a baby who has got a toy and pulls it away whenever he wants.

I see you've chosen to conveniently ignore an important post i made in regards to your "objections" So here it goes again.

Why should it be stated in the rules and regulations?

I am self employed and not getting paid for running these leagues, myself and another person have ran a previous 7 leagues in this fashion with no delays or cancellations, i believe cancelling one which no player had no quarms about cancelling did no harm @ all.

Yes, i came up with an intriguingly, creative and fun idea in which i sacrifice quite a bit of my active lifestyle managing. (I'd hardly call that lazy, would you?)

You've missed several outstanding tournament prediction league's in which there have been monstrous battles and light hearted banter between opponents over the last 6 months, if you had been a part of them or even witnessed how they'd been played out, you’d have realised going through with the poor turnout for a tournament that didn't have a single player in the top 20 competing inside it would've taken away a lot of soul from the league as an entirety.
 
No, I was going to respond to you.

It's not like its some big labor to come and make picks lets be serious here. It takes what, 5 minutes to pick a few tennis matches. So what if he cancelled? Some disagreed, myself included, but life goes on, no reason to be so upset, and let's just move forward and have more fun w/ this game.

And it wasn't halfway through the tournament, it was still day 1 of play if I remember correctly, so it's not like someone had a win taken from them or anything. Big deal out of a little deal. Mountain of a molehill.

so why did you disagree, can you tell us?>
 
What objeciton? there was no discussion to have room for objection, what are you talking about?
opinion of those who are participating can improve this and eventually more people would participate, why call it "garbage"? Just do it more mature, instead of acting like a baby who has got a toy and pulls it away whenever he wants.
I don't understand why you are complaining. It seem you are just trying to troll and cause problems.
 
I see you've chosen to conveniently ignore an important post i made in regards to your "objections" So here it goes again.

heh, important post. Guess the problem is how important you feel right now.

I said finish what you start or fix your rules.

That makes you mad? too bad.
 
so why did you disagree, can you tell us?

B/c I like making picks and it's a fun little game, so I was disappointed that the game was cancelled. But I also understood that there wasn't as much interest as there usually is during the GS and MS events, so I saw TM's side of things. It's no big deal. It's a fun little game. I was upset-for about 3 minutes, then I got over it. I assumed everyone else had, since no one objected at the time. But I guess not.

Like I said, no changing the past, lets move on and have fun w/ this one. No one's gonna want to play w/ all this bickering going on. This is what ruined the FO prediction league, let's not ruin the Canada prediction league. Can we all just agree to disagree and move on? Is that so hard? It's just a game, after all.
 
B/c I like making picks and it's a fun little game, so I was disappointed that the game was cancelled. But I also understood that there wasn't as much interest as there usually is during the GS and MS events, so I saw TM's side of things. It's no big deal. It's a fun little game. I was upset-for about 3 minutes, then I got over it. I assumed everyone else had, since no one objected at the time. But I guess not.

Like I said, no changing the past, lets move on and have fun w/ this one. No one's gonna want to play w/ all this bickering going on. This is what ruined the FO prediction league, let's not ruin the Canada prediction league. Can we all just agree to disagree and move on? Is that so hard? It's just a game, after all.

Ok, that sounds fair. So if someone comes along and says let's finish what we start next so people like you and I dont get disappointed , would you call it "garbage"??
 
I don't understand why you are complaining. It seem you are just trying to troll and cause problems.

heh, important post. Guess the problem is how important you feel right now.

I said finish what you start or fix your rules.

That makes you mad? too bad.

Judging by his response to my answer to his objections has now confirmed you right Chelsea_Kiwi.

Sidenote: Disruptive/aggresive/obnoxious posting from anyone will result in a warning, if it continues the player will promptly become disqualified from the game for the remainder of the tournament.

Thats your first warning OddJack.
 
If you start reading from the start, and your boss's responses maybe you will understand.
Yes you are complaining because like 5 people were playing a 250 tournament that a majority of them didn't want to play. Really get over it and stop being an immature brat.
 
Yes you are complaining because like 5 people were playing a 250 tournament that a majority of them didn't want to play. Really get over it and stop being an immature brat.

if 250 tournament was not worthy why did you start it in the first place?
If 5 people is not enough how many is then? is there a minimum? have you stated it in your requirements when you first posted it?
Can you answer maturely to this questions kiwi?
 
if 250 tournament was not worthy why did you start it in the first place?
If 5 people is not enough how many is then? is there a minimum? have you stated it in your requirements when you first posted it?
Can you answer maturely to this questions kiwi?
Ok playing with 5 people is just stupid. Competition value goes down and if we had played that tournament the value of Masters and GS would go down aswell if we are given points away in a tournament with very little competition/players. In all honesty TM saved the game from becoming a farce.

I started it to defend my overall ranking place mainly despite many not caring about it.
 
Judging by his response to my answer to his objections has now confirmed you right Chelsea_Kiwi.

Sidenote: Disruptive/aggresive/obnoxious posting from anyone will result in a warning, if it continues the player will promptly become disqualified from the game for the remainder of the tournament.

Thats your first warning OddJack.

You should be the first who recieves a warning for calling people names. You are the one who started aggressivness and obnoxious posting.

Tennis Maestro, really pathetic, I feel sorry for you, you need lots of growing up before you can run even an online league. Just try to educate yourself instead of getting encouraged by kiwi.
 
Ok playing with 5 people is just stupid. Competition value goes down and if we had played that tournament the value of Masters and GS would go down aswell if we are given points away in a tournament with very little competition/players. In all honesty TM saved the game from becoming a farce.

I started it to defend my overall ranking place mainly despite many not caring about it.

Then why, after so many tournaments, you just found out that 5 people damage the value? Why did not state it in the requirements instead of ignoring the 5 people who participated altogether?
 
Checking in Mestro,

But if you start something, finish it... alright?

Thanks for the league man.
This is virtually the first post in the thread. Pretty aggressive IMO so it is not TM that started but you.

OJ the simple fact is we have never had 5 people. Try to atleast learn the facts before trying to get into debates on things you have no knowledge of. Ironic considering you told TM to educate himself.
 
This is virtually the first post in the thread. Pretty aggressive IMO so it is not TM that started but you.

OJ the simple fact is we have never had 5 people. Try to atleast learn the facts before trying to get into debates on things you have no knowledge of. Ironic considering you told TM to educate himself.

Well, it is natural that one of the top points holder come out and defend the Big Maestro...Understandable kiwi :^)


Pretty aggressive huh? Asking to this time finish what ones start is pretty aggressive? Who are we dealing with here your honor?
 
Well, it is natural that one of the top points holder come out and defend the Big Maestro...Understandable kiwi :^)


Pretty aggressive huh? Asking to this time finish what ones start is pretty aggressive? Who are we dealing with here your honor?
I have no idea what you are on about in your first para... It sounds like you are trying to start something. Again.

Saying But if you start something, finish it... alright? is pretty rude and aggressive you could of put it "Next time if you start a tournament can we please finish it?" but instead you add the "alright" bit which is like you are in charge of him and as I said before is just simply rude.
 
This is virtually the first post in the thread. Pretty aggressive IMO so it is not TM that started but you.

OJ the simple fact is we have never had 5 people. Try to atleast learn the facts before trying to get into debates on things you have no knowledge of. Ironic considering you told TM to educate himself.

And by the way, you said you never had 5 people. Does that mean from now on there is going to be a minimum players required?

You kiwi, who found yourself to be educated and logical, why cant you take criticism and deal with it so you can improve your league or whatever else instead of this childish "warning please TM"?
My neighbour came to check on me, that's how laud I laughed on that one :)
 
And by the way, you said you never had 5 people. Does that mean from now on there is going to be a minimum players required?

You kiwi, who found yourself to be educated and logical, why cant you take criticism and deal with it so you can improve your league or whatever else instead of this childish "warning please TM"?
My neighbour came to check on me, that's how laud I laughed on that one :)
Enforcing tons of rules would turn this forum into a somewhat nanny state (google it if you don't follow). There are numerous rules which are not there that are known, such as the percentage rule (look in previous threads for that). If we had 5 players at a GS or Masters and they all wanted to be playing then I am sure we would do so.

Btw when did I say I was logicial and educated?
 
Enforcing tons of rules would turn this forum into a somewhat nanny state (google it if you don't follow). There are numerous rules which are not there that are known, such as the percentage rule (look in previous threads for that). If we had 5 players at a GS or Masters and they all wanted to be playing then I am sure we would do so.

Btw when did I say I was logicial and educated?

I dont see "tons of rules" up there. There are mostly regarding points structure which are straight forward. I saw at least 3 other people who were disappointed at cancellation. That, plus what you say about "value" justifies a rule.

Regarding aggression, your own tone in your very first post adressing myself "get over yourself" ..who are you to give orders like that kiwi?

"google it if you don't follow".... well, you are perfect example kiwi, calling people uneducated, likening them with others and calling them names, asking for warnings, look whos talking... chelsea nanny is more like it.
 
I dont see "tons of rules" up there. There are mostly regarding points structure which are straight forward. I saw at least 3 other people who were disappointed at cancellation. That, plus what you say about "value" justifies a rule.

Regarding aggression, your own tone in your very first post adressing myself "get over yourself" ..who are you to give orders like that kiwi?

"google it if you don't follow".... well, you are perfect example kiwi, calling people uneducated, likening them with others and calling them names, asking for warnings, look whos talking... chelsea nanny is more like it.
Did you google nanny state because your last sentance says you don't understand what I meant. Also if every rule were to be put up then we would have an essay and no-one would read it. Including important rules is all that is needed not minor "Terms and Conditions".

And I was responding to your attack on the game so if can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen.
 
Did you google nanny state because your last sentance says you don't understand what I meant.

And I was responding to your attack on the game so if can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen.

it makes you feel smart to say things like "google if you dont follow" or " get out of the kitchen" huh?

lol..my "attack" on the game? sorry, please dont get offended, but may I ask if you are at least 16 or not?
 
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