The Rosol incident revisited

Tony48 said:
EDIT: Never mind. I refuse to take this argument seriously. OP's is either trolling or has simply intentionally mischaracterized an easily explained event.
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Watch the video ....what did I say wrong?

Is Soderling grooming himself on Nadal side?? ...yes

Is that normal ? No

Does Rosol even move a muscle to get out of the way? No

Is Rosol even looking where he is going or is he blind with his towel in Nadals space....actually moving into Nadals space?

Rather than a bump what you see is Nadal moving his shoulder to a void a bump....he clearly does not barrel into Rosol.


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What Rosol is doing is like driving and texting.....

You don't walk with a towel in your face . He just stood there set a pick to draw a foul and actually bumped Nadal....

Nadals shoulder moves backwards to get out of rosols stupid path.
 
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Video clearly shows Rosol on his side of the net in front of his bench toweling off innocently when crybaby Rafa walks buy and slams his shoulder into him.

This was done out of anger and fear that Rosol was kicking his booty and was a pathetic attempt at intimidation.

It did not work and after the humiliating defeat Rafa was too afraid/asshamed/and booty hurt to show his face on tour for close to 9 months.
 
The Dark Knight: nobody is buying what you are selling. Just stop. Your version of events is incredibly misleading and does not comport with reasonable human experiences. The world saw the video. Nobody needs you explain what happened.

Rather than a bump what you see is Nadal moving his shoulder to a void a bump....he clearly does not barrel into Rosol.
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Maybe you've never seen someone intentionally bump into someone before? Perhaps that would explain your bizarre explanation of what happened.
 
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Tony48 said:
The Dark Knight: nobody is buying what you are selling. Just stop. Your version of events is incredibly misleading and does not comport with reasonable human experiences. The world saw the video. Nobody needs you explain what happened.



Maybe you've never seen someone intentionally bump into someone before? Perhaps that would explain this bizarre explanation of what happened.
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Nice addition but no ....they have not seen this angle before.

In it you can see what truly happened .
 
In fact now that I look at it even closer watch the exact point of impact ......

When you hit something it moves backwards.....

Rosol moves forward but Nadals shoulder moves backwards.

It was Rosol who actually hit Nadal.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhk3x5Ez_7Y

Video clearly shows, Rosol saw Rafa coming towards him at which point he decided to cover his face with his towel, whilst continuing to walk forward, not leaving suffiicient space for Nadal to get through. Not until the last moment did Nadal realize how close they were, because he had his head down. When he did realize he tried to take evasive action by turning his shoulder away from Rosol. Nadal had to avoid Rosol on one side and the microphone sticking out from the chair on the other side. The whole episode could have been avoided by Rosol. Rosol clearly had an agenda.
 
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cknobman said:
Video clearly shows Rosol on his side of the net in front of his bench toweling off innocently when crybaby

Rafa walks buy and slams his shoulder into him.

This was done out of anger and fear that Rosol was kicking his booty and was a pathetic attempt at intimidation.

It did not work and after the humiliating defeat Rafa was too afraid/asshamed/and booty hurt to show his face on tour for close to 9 months.
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"SLAMS" his shoulder into him? :confused:

You hate Nadal? Fine, all well and good.

But you don't need to post stupid, exaggerated fanboy crap such as this, and this is exactly the reason why fanboys bite the big one.
 
The Dark Knight said:
I was watching the Rosol "bump" or shall I say "brush".....it so not a big deal.
I mean Rosol didn't even stop toweling himself.......

But far more importantly .....what the hell was Rosol doing???

I mean he is just standing there in Nadals space taking a freaking shower, brushing his teeth and putting some deodorant on.....I mean he is just parked on Nadals side??

I'm glad Nadal did it though , fits his image..,,,he was deep in concentration and Rosol was not moving his butt.....even after the so called gigantic "brush"......Rosol still did not stop toweling.......next thing you know he was going to start drying off his tennis balls ?

Hey Rosol......."MOVE YOUR ARS AND WALK TO YOUR FREAKING CHAIR INSTEAD OF DOING YOUR PERSONAL GROOMING IN MY FACE"

In fact if you look closely its as though Rosol walked into Nadal and set a pick like in basketball....he just stops dead cold and doesn't move......not even slightly. He doesn't even stop toweling . I actually think Rosol may have done that to screw with Nadal and intimidate Rafa
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agreed general TDK.

rosol is a bloody low life.
 
Tony48 said:
Ummm...what? That angle is from a TV broadcast which was put on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhk3x5Ez_7Y

Nadal intentionally bumped into Rosol. Period.
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Ok well I haven't seen it before. And I think a lot of oeople have not seen it before.

It's clear ....Nadals shoulder moves backwards.....that means Nadal
Was hit.....it's physics .

Rosol placed himself in a stupid position toweling off on the wrong side oblivious to the world.

I think he set a pick to draw the foul......

The question is why is he standing in that particular spot to towel off??? Who the hell does that????
 
The Dark Knight said:
Ok well I haven't seen it before. And I think a lot of oeople have not seen it before.

It's clear ....Nadals shoulder moves backwards.....that means Nadal
Was hit.....it's physics .

Rosol placed himself in a stupid position toweling off on the wrong side oblivious to the world.

I think he set a pick to draw the foul......

The question is why is he standing in that particular spot to towel off??? Who the hell does that????
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Yes, and I was hit by a parked car.

LOL. Rosol wasn't even moving. How was Nadal "hit"? You have horrible logic (or like I said, you're just trolling). If I punch a wall and break my fist, did the wall "hit me" because my bones moved?

smash hit said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhk3x5Ez_7Y

Video clearly shows, Rosol saw Rafa coming towards him at which point he decided to cover his face with his towel, whilst continuing to walk forward, not leaving suffiicient space for Nadal to get through. Not until the last moment did Nadal realize how close they were, because he had his head down. When he did realize he tried to take evasive action by turning his shoulder away from Rosol. Nadal had to avoid Rosol on one side and the microphone sticking out from the chair on the other side. The whole episode could have been avoided by Rosol. Rosol clearly had an agenda.
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I hope you don't actually believe that. Have you ever seen someone intentionally walk into someone and act like they didn't know the person was there? To say that Nadal didn't know what was going on around him is exceptionally naive.
 
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Tony48 said:
Yes, and I was hit by a parked car.

LOL. Rosol wasn't even moving. How was Nadal "hit"? You have horrible logic (or like I said, you're just trolling). If I punch a wall and break my fist, did the wall "hit me" because my bones moved?



I hope you don't actually believe that.
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Rosol braces himself and stands firm very firm. Nadals shoulder moves backwards.

The only one trying to get out of the way is Nadal....Rosol sets a pick and stands in Nadals path and won't move a muscle
 
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rosol did a lot more than that. he had been mocking nadal during the match.

that is what happens when you are absolutely nothing. they all get their once in a bloody life time win against these all time greats.

just look at benneteau. at least he is a great sport. he got his once in a life time win over roger.


its a brutal sport. you cant win them all. you are bound to be spent physically and mentally from time to time.
 
The Dark Knight said:
Rosol braces himself and stands firm very firm. Nadals shoulder moves backwards.
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Yeah and it isn't exactly like Nadal has never tried to get into his opponent's head by doing something that might be considered gamesmanship like taking too much time, yelling "VAMOS" at an opponent's error, making his opponent wait, etc. IMO, if you're going to dish it out, be prepared to take it.
 
In fact !!!!!

Now looking again......

At the beginning of the video you see Rosol take a step or two and then he just stops ......he dead stops right in from of Nadal leaving little room.

Nadal moves his shoulder backwards to get out of the way and avoid any real impact.....maybe a "touching"
Or a brush......

Rosol either through is reckless disregard for his surroundings or purposely caused the accident.

He placed himself in a spot where he should not have been with a towel over his face .

He did not do anything to avoid the situation .... He would not move a muscle .

I guess the toweling was a diversion.....because if he didn't have the towel on his face there is no way that would have happened .....or if it did it would have been obvious Rosol did it on purpose
 
Rabbit said:
Yeah and it isn't exactly like Nadal has never tried to get into his opponent's head by doing something that might be considered gamesmanship like taking too much time, yelling "VAMOS" at an opponent's error, making his opponent wait, etc. IMO, if you're going to dish it out, be prepared to take it.
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he is talking only about this incidence and this incidence alone.


and nadal does not try to intimidate anybody.

the man is just a damn fool with all his rituals. it has to do with his various superstitions.


tony has told him a million times to stop that nonsense so he adds about 2 more supersitions a day.

now the blundering fool has to pull on his underwear 40 times and touch his nose 19 times before and after each point.
 
Death Master said:
rosol did a lot more than that. he had been mocking nadal during the match.

that is what happens when you are absolutely nothing. they all get their once in a bloody life time win against these all time greats.

just look at benneteau. at least he is a great sport. he got his once in a life time win over roger.


its a brutal sport. you cant win them all. you are bound to be spent physically and mentally from time to time.
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I didn't know that? So now you have motive as well.

I'm telling you watch the video ...Rosol takes two steps with a towel in his face and then abruptly stops in Nadals path.

Nadals shoulder moves backwards to avoid the accident.

It's like if a car in front of you stops short......and you hit him in the rear. Or better setting a basketball pick to draw a foul.

I'm surprised Rosol didn't fall to the ground and act like it was a big hit.
 
The Dark Knight said:
Rosol braces himself and stands firm very firm. Nadals shoulder moves backwards.

The only one trying to get out of the way is Nadal....Rosol sets a pick and stands in Nadals path and won't move a muscle
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Nadal ran into Rosol. You unfortunately just have a poor interpretation of human interaction. No reasonable person shares your opinion. Not a single publication agrees with your version of events.
 
The Dark Knight said:
I didn't know that? So now you have motive as well.

I'm telling you watch the video ...Rosol takes two steps with a towel in his face and then abruptly stops in Nadals path.

Nadals shoulder moves backwards to avoid the accident.

It's like if a car in front of you stops short......and you hit him in the rear. Or better setting a basketball pick to draw a foul.

I'm surprised Rosol didn't fall to the ground and act like it was a big hit.
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I don't have any motives of any kind ever. I just like to call it like I see it mate.

I happen to be one of the greatest posters in the history of the world. and also the most objective. so I don't deal with motives.

I am not even sure what motives you are talking about.



I do believe that you are right: nadal did not hit him as he walked by.

it was rosol who parked his sorry arse in front of him and exactly in nadal`s path.
 
I will say this:

a man with the lightening quick reflexes and amazing peripheral vision like nadal should have been the bigger man and quickly moved aside once he saw that rosol was in his path.
 
The Dark Knight said:
In fact !!!!!

Now looking again......

At the beginning of the video you see Rosol take a step or two and then he just stops ......he dead stops right in from of Nadal leaving little room.

Nadal moves his shoulder backwards to get out of the way and avoid any real impact.....maybe a "touching"
Or a brush......
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Or maybe Nadal is just too stupid to do like Rosol did: stop walking.

For Nadal, the brain power to command your legs to stop after you've already commanded them to go must have been quite an ask.
 
Death Master said:
I will say this:

a man with the lightening quick reflexes and amazing peripheral vision like nadal should have been the bigger man and quickly moved aside once he saw that rosol was in his path.
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Have you ever walked in Manhattan or a big city .

As someone is walking against you , subconsciously you sort of slant out if the way just like Nadal did . You expect the other person to also slant a little out if the way.....if they don't there's an impact .

I notice this with women a lot....they walk through the streets of NYC without moving a muscle and you have to do backflips to get out of the way.

All Rosol had to do was move slightly ......very slightly .

Also it's obvious Nadal was in deep concentration.

But the truth doesn't really matter because certain Fed fans need something anything to use against Nadal. The truth is that the entire matter was nothing and was blown grossly out of proportion.

It's so rare that you see anything negative from Nadal that fed fans have to hang on to the tiny little crumbs they can get.
 
Tony48 said:
Or maybe Nadal is just too stupid to do like Rosol did: stop walking.

For Nadal, the brain power to command your legs to stop after you've already commanded them to go must have been quite an ask.
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Yeah Nadal should do like Rosol did walk with a towel in your face on the wrong side and then abruptly stop short in front of someone crossing in front of you .
 
Ya know what's really telling ?

Is Rosols reaction .....I mean he wasn't surprised....he didn't even stop toweling and sort of braces himself for impact.

Nadal felt that he was touching Rosol and quickly moved his shoulder backwards out of the way.....

If he wanted to hit Rosol believe me that string bean would have felt it . Nadal would drop the shoulder and go right through him.....

But the fact is his shoulder went backwards and out of the way.

Look close ....first you see rosols elbow come into contact with Nadal.....Rafa immediately pulls his shoulder backwards.

Rosol on the other hand is moving forward and stops and doesn't move a whisker ....right in front of Nadal. He was too busy covering his eyes with the towel to see what's going on .

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The Dark Knight said:
Have you ever walked in Manhattan or a big city .

As someone is walking against you , subconsciously you sort of slant out if the way just like Nadal did . You expect the other person to also slant a little out if the way.....if they don't there's an impact .

I notice this with women a lot....they walk through the streets of NYC without moving a muscle and you have to do backflips to get out of the way.

All Rosol had to do was move slightly ......very slightly .

Also it's obvious Nadal was in deep concentration.

But the truth doesn't really matter because certain Fed fans need something anything to use against Nadal. The truth is that the entire matter was nothing and was blown grossly out of proportion.

It's so rare that you see anything negative from Nadal that fed fans have to hang on to the tiny little crumbs they can get.
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I hear ya.



I happen to be nadal`s greatest critic. lot of nadal fans think that I actually cant stand him.


I just have to call it like I see it and then let the chips fall where they may.
 
The Dark Knight said:
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What Rosol is doing is like driving and texting.....

You don't walk with a towel in your face . He just stood there set a pick to draw a foul and actually bumped Nadal....

Nadals shoulder moves backwards to get out of rosols stupid path.
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That'd make sense if Rosol was actually moving when the bump happened. He seems to stop, and Nadal doesn't make an effort not to bump him or to acknowledge that it happened. That doesn't exactly make Rafa look good.

I don't even know if I think Nadal meant to do anything, but you're kinda grasping at straws here.
 
I wish my twin brother would come on here and stop you posting such tripe, OP. It has gotten to the point where I can't stand even logging onto the G P P Discussion page as I know that you'll have infested it with more rubbish.

You seriously don't do the Nadal fan base any favours, quite the opposite.
 
The Dark Knight said:
Yeah Nadal should do like Rosol did walk with a towel in your face on the wrong side and then abruptly stop short in front of someone crossing in front of you .
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So you admit Nadal intentionally didn't stop and intentionally ran into Rosol? Why didn't Nadal stop?

Was his brainpower committed to his circulatory system? Would it be too much to ask his brain to stop moving his legs, or would his brain shut down because of request overload?
 
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Ralph said:
I wish my twin brother would come on here and stop you posting such tripe, OP. It has gotten to the point where I can't stand even logging onto the G P P Discussion page as I know that you'll have infested it with more rubbish.

You seriously don't do the Nadal fan base any favours, quite the opposite.
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Here's an idea .....when you see a thread created by me and you see your hand moving to click on it then please stop yourself.
 
Tony48 said:
So you admit Nadal intentionally didn't stop and intentionally ran into Rosol? Why didn't Nadal stop?

Was his brainpower committed to his circulatory system?
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There was no time. Rosol took to steps and abruptly stopped .....Nadal felt the elbow and moved his shoulder backwards .

Which is the key.....believe if Nadal
Wanted to hit him that stringbean would have felt it enough to at least stop toweling . Instead his shoulder moves BACK and AWAY......clearly showing his intention was to avoid contact.

I feel like I'm discussing the Kennedy shooting :-)
 
The Dark Knight said:
There was no time. Rosol took to steps and abruptly stopped .....Nadal felt the elbow and moved his shoulder backwards .

Which is the key.....believe if Nadal
Wanted to hit him that stringbean would have felt it enough to at least stop toweling . Instead his shoulder moves BACK and AWAY......clearly showing his intention was to avoid contact.

I feel like I'm discussing the Kennedy shooting :-)
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So let me get this straight: Rosol, with a towel over his face, knows when to stop. But Nadal, who is clear of visual obstruction, doesn't know when to stop?

Nadal needed more time, even though Rosol had a towel over his face? So maybe Nadal really IS stupid.
 
Does it really matter??
Everyone is missing what really was going on.
It is well known on the tour that the two of them had a 'thing' going on for awhile. Rafa then dumped Rosol and Rosol was still hurt by it.
So just let them both be, it's between them.
 
The Dark Knight said:
I really am not trying to upset Fed fans here (although I know it will :-( )....

But this thread is loooooooooong overdue.

How does Federer win so many sportsman of the year awards??

I mean you can say a lot about Fed.....call him the goat...fine....call him a great guy....no problem.....call him classy......ok......

But sportsman of the year??

With all due respect to Federer.....and I have a LOT of respect for him....but he is not a good sportsman at all.....
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You just answered your own question. :lol:
 
The Dark Knight said:
I was watching the Rosol "bump" or shall I say "brush".....it so not a big deal.
I mean Rosol didn't even stop toweling himself.......

But far more importantly .....what the hell was Rosol doing???

I mean he is just standing there in Nadals space taking a freaking shower, brushing his teeth and putting some deodorant on.....I mean he is just parked on Nadals side??

I'm glad Nadal did it though , fits his image..,,,he was deep in concentration and Rosol was not moving his butt.....even after the so called gigantic "brush"......Rosol still did not stop toweling.......next thing you know he was going to start drying off his tennis balls ?

Hey Rosol......."MOVE YOUR ARS AND WALK TO YOUR FREAKING CHAIR INSTEAD OF DOING YOUR PERSONAL GROOMING IN MY FACE"

In fact if you look closely its as though Rosol walked into Nadal and set a pick like in basketball....he just stops dead cold and doesn't move......not even slightly. He doesn't even stop toweling . I actually think Rosol may have done that to screw with Nadal and intimidate Rafa
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They should eliminate this anyway and I've thought it for years. Find a way for players on the changeovers to not have to get so close to each other
 
The Dark Knight said:
Here's an idea .....when you see a thread created by me and you see your hand moving to click on it then please stop yourself.
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OMG!!! Running out of ideas for silly thread, huh, TDK?

Here are my 2 cents: "when you are tempted to prop up a ridiculous thread and you see your hand moving to the keyboard for typing, then please STOP YOURSELF."

Luckily, it was NOT Fed who stood in Rafa's way, huh? Otherwise, you would have screamed murder so much sooner, right? And not waiting for almost 2.5 years to make a thread.

THERE, I fixed it for you.

I wonder if there are any mods working around here?
 
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