the same problem from tennis carried over to pb?
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It is worse than in tennis due to the shorter distance.I'm new to bp.
Is it just me or a weak dubs partner is also a huge liability in pb, just like in tennis?
Opponents can really hit the ball to a weak partner and put you on vacation.
Bud
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It's worse. Tennis takes many years to become proficient. So, if your partner can keep the ball in play you stand a chance. If they can't, why are you playing with them?I'm new to bp.
Is it just me or a weak dubs partner is also a huge liability in pb, just like in tennis?
Opponents can really hit the ball to a weak partner and put you on vacation.
Many tennis players cross over to PB thinking they know everything because they can serve/return and drive the ball well. If you get one of these partners who claim to be advanced, you can get destroyed by a couple competent PB players who can drop/dink the ball and win from the kitchen line. I've had way worse losses in PB doubles than tennis doubles.
In tennis doubles, i can compensate for a weaker partner by covering most of the court or planting them at the net. Neither of those strategies work in PB.
To play PB doubles above 3.75, you must be able to dink, drop, reset, counter well and have quick hands at the kitchen line. If your partner can't do that, you're likely toast at levels above 3.75.
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tennytive
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What he said ^^^
Part of the problem is in tennis a lower level player cannot expect to play with a higher skilled group unless they're invited and it's more of a fun hit than competitive.
In PB everyone thinks they're worthy because they spent 250 on their paddle and are entitlted to inclusion. The smart players run to the other side and you're left with the mismatch.
Opponents take turns targeting your partner until s/he pops up a sitter and then you finally have a ball hit to you… down your throat. This will happen over and over and the
insult to injury is hearing your partner say "C'mon, pick me up." Not fun.
Part of the problem is in tennis a lower level player cannot expect to play with a higher skilled group unless they're invited and it's more of a fun hit than competitive.
In PB everyone thinks they're worthy because they spent 250 on their paddle and are entitlted to inclusion. The smart players run to the other side and you're left with the mismatch.
Opponents take turns targeting your partner until s/he pops up a sitter and then you finally have a ball hit to you… down your throat. This will happen over and over and the
insult to injury is hearing your partner say "C'mon, pick me up." Not fun.
definitely worse... i stopped going to open play, due to being iced out games when paired with a weak partner... (well, they like to slam it at me, when my partner pops it up, because i'm being overly aggressive/involved)
that said, i've played with ~5.0, and i'm the weakest link, so i'm in the hot seat, and my partner is being iced out... diff is that i can play right side, and let them take 3/4 court (like mixed pb), and just focus on my fh dinks...
that said, i've played with ~5.0, and i'm the weakest link, so i'm in the hot seat, and my partner is being iced out... diff is that i can play right side, and let them take 3/4 court (like mixed pb), and just focus on my fh dinks...
user92626
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guys, feel free to discuss anything. No point in creating numerous threads.
Veering away from the original topic ...
Suddenly I find PB to be very easy!
first of all, I applied what I know from tennis. The timing, the spacing, the watching, etc. They seem to be identical, 100% applicable.
Things I need to get rid of: the topspin concept. PB paddle is not conducive to topspin. Flat-slamming the ball is desirable.
Equipment-wise: is there a paddle that's really powerful? Like, more trampoliney? Or, ball that bounces higher?
So, ordinary/average shots or average whacking is all good -- letting me beat a lot of women and older men. But younger peers, higher level players aint so easy. I would need trickier, much more difficult shots.
Is this where advanced players need to practice? Average rallies wouldn't cut it? Useless?
Veering away from the original topic ...
Suddenly I find PB to be very easy!
first of all, I applied what I know from tennis. The timing, the spacing, the watching, etc. They seem to be identical, 100% applicable.
Things I need to get rid of: the topspin concept. PB paddle is not conducive to topspin. Flat-slamming the ball is desirable.
Equipment-wise: is there a paddle that's really powerful? Like, more trampoliney? Or, ball that bounces higher?
So, ordinary/average shots or average whacking is all good -- letting me beat a lot of women and older men. But younger peers, higher level players aint so easy. I would need trickier, much more difficult shots.
Is this where advanced players need to practice? Average rallies wouldn't cut it? Useless?
not true... topspin is still extremely valuable... google "drip"
prefer stiffer (more energy transfer) gen4 (eg. foam) paddles.
eg. mpp foam paddles (ronbus quanta + weights), boomstick (dual density foam)
lifetime balls (alt: selkirkk pro v1, durafast,...)
against 4.0+ pb players... tennis players need to learn "drops" and "resets" (into the kitchen), so they can get to the kitchen, and win via a dinking strat (eg. mini tennis!) that induces a pop up that can be sped up, and re-countered (4.5+)
if rallying from the baseline in pb is the majority of your practice, it's is a waste of time (unless you're playing pb singles... or against <4.0 pb folks that can't volley)
these days, if i'm playing with a weak partner, especially one that doesn't come to net... i just poach everythingI'm new to bp.
Is it just me or a weak dubs partner is also a huge liability in pb, just like in tennis?
Opponents can really hit the ball to a weak partner and put you on vacation.
Bud
Bionic Poster
That's really tough though point after point. If your opponents are 4.0 or higher they'll be able to redirect the ball behind you or go over you. Get a better partner.
Bud
Bionic Poster
Yeah that's what sucks about open play
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