The black felt more slick then blue babolat syn gut, to me that is... have you tried black babolat syn gut? The natural color felt sticky n would be good as a main string with poly crossTo start your stringing biz you just need:
Babolat Syn Gut 1.30 Blue. best syn gut out there and slick. also inexpensive.
Big Hitter Silver 16 (which is 1.25) round and last long and has high spin potiential and not too stiff ... Price is 1/3 of Confidential
long lasting MSV Focus Hex red 1.23 is in top 3 of all time heavy hitting tour player strings IMO and have high (alons full bed) to very high Spin potiential if crossed with round slick cross strings.
.....1/2 price of Head Lynx Tour.
Cross strings: Pros Pro Intense Heat 1.25/ Black Force/Cyclone power 1.25.... Topspin Cyber Blue/Msv Co-Focus 1.18
Alu Power equivalent : Pros Pro Cyber Power 1.25 (made by Gosen?)
With these strings you are covered from beginner to intermidiate to pro.... and you can charge a fair price that match your in-experience.
All your posts are like this, the black is slicker than the blue, the white stretches more than the silver… it’s the same string, stop trying to overcomplicate everything.The black felt more slick then blue babolat syn gut, to me that is... have you tried black babolat syn gut? The natural color felt sticky n would be good as a main string with poly cross
If it's got 1 ingredient different , its NOT same . If it also plays n stretches differently. It's Not the same string. If you put apples in a carrot cake and not put any carrots in, is it still a carrot cake?All your posts are like this, the black is slicker than the blue, the white stretches more than the silver… it’s the same string, stop trying to overcomplicate everything.
there will be expected names, there will be unpopular opinions and yes there will be a hidden gemThe tests from Oehms Alu Pearl Pro to Dyreex Pro Player, are the ones I’m more interested about. There are at least 2-3 hidden gems on that segment alone. Let us know!
I was surprised myself about SPPPInteresting views. I am surprised SPPP and firestorm made it that high in your list and though PP cyber power and either Dyreex alu or super tour had potential to do better. In which racquet did you string and at what tension?
Slickness and control are about equalKirschbaum orange same as signum? Which is slicker if anyone tested both? Might try as a cross
I intend to test that too, but main focus for now is full bed. Beckett was the main reason to get myself some Pure Rush to begin with. Hope to be ready as there is a Christmas/ New Years Tournament coming up. Still 14 strings to go.Have you tried the Tru pro hybrid of pure rush in the mains and ghost wire in the crosses? I tested it in my head extreme pro a few weeks back and it felt great. Beckett from tenncom recommended it.
I Personally prefer stiffer set up, but i do get it that some do invest in PP strings. Nothing wrong with that. If you enjoy and they offer you what you like in a string. Why should you change to a more expensive brand.Dont like Black strings which is what I found as Xs not for Mains.
Ive settled for the 3mason Dark vs Light Theme
Black
1.24mm PPs BO Mains (BO is the most rated amongst PP users) @ 44lbs
(WC Black5edge rebranded stiffer than Technifibre Blackcode)
White
1.22mm PPs Concept Xs @ 40lbs (rebranded WC Scorpion)
nothing notches it as a X ever, super shiny slippery 4G like but softer
Snapback> longer dwell for powerful modern light racquets
Red Devil has more feel than Concept yet less pop, both need -40lbs to shine
Ive adjusted to lower tensions as I found Polyester and similar Polymers all
lose elasticity after reaching a certain stretch level hence poor durability.
To overcome this using lower 10-15lbs than the Pros increases their life
almost 70% and this is vital since we can restring every change of balls etc.
Lux 4G is a very popular string but more suitable to softer racquets like your 21 98L
Also strung at lower tensions performs best BUT Lux should make a Square 4G for mains.
Your 98L and 100L are worlds apart in stiffness ratings and in general
maybe 3lbs difference is required between them.
Also how did you go with Revolution? TW reviews are great but no one uses them?
Yonex Air is a really good string.Try softer and easily notched string as main and the harder as cross... comfy strings notch fast but you don't want mains going into the cross n locking up string bed...
Nxt mains/ hawk power cross or Yonex air is great for cold weather.
@Tennis And Anime Lover
Which string is relatively comfortable and slow to produce notches?
I am currently using boom mp2024
I like hawk power, signum firestorm, wilson nxt control/yonex air, but after 3-4 hours of use, the vertical line is stuck by the notches and cannot rebound. The string bed becomes very stiff and cannot be used anymore. Forcing it to be used will only make the wrist uncomfortable after playing.
I have tried hard strings with fewer notches such as lynx tour, lynx tour/firestorm, black code 4s, but they feel too hard and make the wrist and arm uncomfortable after playing.
First off,@Tennis And Anime Lover
Which string is relatively comfortable and slow to produce notches?
I am currently using boom mp2024
I like hawk power, signum firestorm, wilson nxt control/yonex air, but after 3-4 hours of use, the vertical line is stuck by the notches and cannot rebound. The string bed becomes very stiff and cannot be used anymore. Forcing it to be used will only make the wrist uncomfortable after playing.
I have tried hard strings with fewer notches such as lynx tour, lynx tour/firestorm, black code 4s, but they feel too hard and make the wrist and arm uncomfortable after playing.
You are right about my preferences, but tried to help out nonetheless. Just posted my 2 cents. I can apreciate soft/comfortable strings on occasion, like Grapplesnake Alpha and Ytex Protour Blue do stand out for me in that particular segment of tennis strings.Yonex Poly Tour Air is a really nice soft and slick string. Fantastic as a cross. Its biggest issue though is tension maintenance, it loses its playability quickly. Better alternatives would be MSV Swift, Isospeed Cream or Tru Pro Ghost Wire. These three would be great in the crosses and because of their slickness, they will generate great snapback but at the same time being nice and soft on the arm.
I would suggest a hybrid if you are after a string setup that is comfortable on the arm. Use one of the slick soft poly's I mentioned above in the crosses and then go for a non poly in the mains, a multi like Head Velocity MLT or similar.
@Tennis And Anime Lover I believe prefers stiffer setups which will not be as kind on the arm. We all have our preferences, its a very personal thing.
Love having these discussions with everyone, really opens up ones knowledge and experiences.You are right about my preferences, but tried to help out nonetheless. Just posted my 2 cents. I can apreciate soft/comfortable strings on occasion, like Grapplesnake Alpha and Ytex Protour Blue do stand out for me in that particular segment of tennis strings.
But if i had to play a match with my life on the line, I'll go for the mosted controlled shaped string that does not break my elbow, with above average spin and good tension maintenance. Not surprising that Tourna BHS7T is my string of choice. But maybe that'll change in about a week or 5. I'll be updating my stringtesting by then normally, Pure Rush will be up for testing somewhere begin december.
isn't sharing experiences the main goal of a forum?Love having these discussions with everyone, really opens up ones knowledge and experiences.
I too love a shaped poly, just my elbow can't handle a full bed unless it is strung/tensioned low lol That's why I lean towards the hybrid setups with either a softer string in the crosses. Love the pure rush and ghost wire hybrid though, as per Becketts recommendation.
I'm going to be testing the non poly in the mains and the slick soft poly in the crosses to compare.
I really want to try tourna BHS7T but it's not as readily available here in the UK or is more on the expensive side.
I usually play 1.25. It's a good middle ground.I cringe to ask this late in the thread, but what gauge did you typically use for your demos?
Thx man. Always nice to see appreciation. Glad to hear some find the thread has interest and value to some.Very detailed reviews.Thank you for sharing your efforts and testing a lot of strings.
Glad to see 1st old school gen polys like SPPP still rocks solid.
I have a long list for testing cause i do not play tpp much in 2024,but SPPP went to the top of the list,just because I always give advantage to ol'school.Also thing which comes to mind is that all main brands make stuff in China,hope that signum pro like other german brands hold their production in Germany.Thx man. Always nice to see appreciation. Glad to hear some find the thread has interest and value to some.
I'll be in the minority liking SPPP and Hextreme as much as I do, but yeah to me it's much better as i tought it would be. A no brainer at the price range it is at.
Courious to hear feedback about your own testing you are about to do also
Looking forward to hear about your assessementI have a long list for testing cause i do not play tpp much in 2024,but SPPP went to the top of the list,just because I always give advantage to ol'school.Also thing which comes to mind is that all main brands make stuff in China,hope that signum pro like other german brands hold their production in Germany.
Nat Gut / RMP Rough will be for personal Use only (still have to test that one, as RMP R broke on the stringer.Hi, are these the top 7 strings you’re going to carry? For yourself, are you playing w tour sniper or a natural gut hybrid.
Alpha as TS are both mildly pentangonal shaped. So not very pronounced. But they're there.I thought alpha was a round string? And tour sniper as well? Looks like you have a great selection.
Seems like all the " new" strings are a lot of hype not transferred to the actual court side when you play.we're about on the same page. there is often said if you don't break strings, you don't need poly. But to me that only one side of the story. I just hate it when string get stuck out of plays and generally dont like how non poly strings play and feel. Having a spin oriented game and always liked control oriented strings more. Going for poly strings seems logical.
The 'weakness' of poly strings is the tension maintenance. But contrary to pro players we dont have the luxury to restring every time we play.
To me a good poly string is a combination of control, spin, tension maintenance, playability duration. Other things to consider are crispness, gauge, pricetag, general feel of a string.
I've been restringing a lot because of being on a string journey. But as of now I'll only commit to the 5 strings mentioned above for personal use.
As for new string releases, there aint anything at the horizon that has my interest for now
Which color revolves did you try? Orange I tried was not slickTennis and Anime Lover's Best Tennis Strings top 20
1 Grapplesnake Tour Sniper: Does do everything that TBHS7T does, but in a better way
2 Luxilon 4G Soft: Best round string on the market
3 Grapplesnake Tour M8: This one has it all, Comfort, Power, Tension Maintenance, Spin. The only knock is finding the right tension to let it work as you want it to.
4 Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour: Still the budget king
5 Mayami Tour Hex: The string is excellent, the brand/company not so much, but if muteness doesn't bother you, be sure to give this one a try
6 Signum Pro Poly Plasma/ Hex Hybrid: when you are on a budget, and TBHS7T is to stiff for you, give this one a chance.
7 Solinco Confidential: Has been one of my favorites for most part of 2024, but went down the list as playability duration wasn't so great on this one.
8 Grapplesnake Alpha: You love Yonex Poly Tour Pro, but want to adress it shortcomings? Choose this one. It's an improvement in also every way
9 Restring Sync: Another Great Round offering, that plays both well as full bed or as a cross. Ain't higher on the list of for reasons of accessability/ availability over here
10 Toroline Caviar X Hybrid: Tried all Toroline offerings, with this hybrid coming out on top
11 Genesis Hexonic Power: Feels and plays quite similar to full bed of Caviar, with a tad less control, but bit more power
12 Solinco Hyper G Hybrid: Was not a big fan of full bed of Regular Hyper G, but combined with the Round version as cross, played a lot better.
13 Dyreex Pro Player: exceptional not so well known round string, as long as you dont play it in stiffer frames, tends to be boardy. Aside that it just plays great.
14 Head Hawk Touch: Propably the most versitale round string out there, no clear weaknesses, no clear strong points, does everything well above average
15 Kirschbaum Max Power and or Rough: Same remarks as with Yonex Poly Tour Strike. If put this one a bit higher for its more competitive price point.
16 Signum Pro Firestorm: Very good allround round string at competitive pricing with soms hints of Alu Power
17 Ytex Pro Tour Blue: One of the few strings that play both good als full bed or in a hybrid. It also has a rare property of being soft and comfortable but with great tension maintenance
18 Yonex Poly Tour Strike: Yonex's best string, could have been more up the list if spin potential was greater
Honorable Mentions
19 Wilson Revolve and or Yonex Poly Tour Fire: 2 of the most slick strings out there. Perfect as a cross, less so as full bed. I'd pick Revolve over Fire, as it is slightly better and cheaper.
20 Babolat RMP Rough : Rough Strings are best options to use in Hybrid as a cross with Nat gut like Babolat VS Touch
this thread is amazing. Appreciate what you’re doing for the community.Tennis and Anime Lover's Best Tennis Strings top 20
1 Grapplesnake Tour Sniper: Does do everything that TBHS7T does, but in a better way
2 Luxilon 4G Soft: Best round string on the market
3 Grapplesnake Tour M8: This one has it all, Comfort, Power, Tension Maintenance, Spin. The only knock is finding the right tension to let it work as you want it to.
4 Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour: Still the budget king
5 Mayami Tour Hex: The string is excellent, the brand/company not so much, but if muteness doesn't bother you, be sure to give this one a try
6 Signum Pro Poly Plasma/ Hex Hybrid: when you are on a budget, and TBHS7T is to stiff for you, give this one a chance.
7 Solinco Confidential: Has been one of my favorites for most part of 2024, but went down the list as playability duration wasn't so great on this one.
8 Grapplesnake Alpha: You love Yonex Poly Tour Pro, but want to adress it shortcomings? Choose this one. It's an improvement in also every way
9 Restring Sync: Another Great Round offering, that plays both well as full bed or as a cross. Ain't higher on the list of for reasons of accessability/ availability over here
10 Toroline Caviar X Hybrid: Tried all Toroline offerings, with this hybrid coming out on top
11 Genesis Hexonic Power: Feels and plays quite similar to full bed of Caviar, with a tad less control, but bit more power
12 Solinco Hyper G Hybrid: Was not a big fan of full bed of Regular Hyper G, but combined with the Round version as cross, played a lot better.
13 Dyreex Pro Player: exceptional not so well known round string, as long as you dont play it in stiffer frames, tends to be boardy. Aside that it just plays great.
14 Head Hawk Touch: Propably the most versitale round string out there, no clear weaknesses, no clear strong points, does everything well above average
15 Kirschbaum Max Power and or Rough: Same remarks as with Yonex Poly Tour Strike. If put this one a bit higher for its more competitive price point.
16 Signum Pro Firestorm: Very good allround round string at competitive pricing with soms hints of Alu Power
17 Ytex Pro Tour Blue: One of the few strings that play both good als full bed or in a hybrid. It also has a rare property of being soft and comfortable but with great tension maintenance
18 Yonex Poly Tour Strike: Yonex's best string, could have been more up the list if spin potential was greater
Honorable Mentions
19 Wilson Revolve and or Yonex Poly Tour Fire: 2 of the most slick strings out there. Perfect as a cross, less so as full bed. I'd pick Revolve over Fire, as it is slightly better and cheaper.
20 Babolat RMP Rough : Rough Strings are best options to use in Hybrid as a cross with Nat gut like Babolat VS Touch
Wow, really appreciate the in depth reply and comparisons. I'm definitely going to be trying out TBHS7T at the very least and like you said it is much budget friendly. Maybe I'll get around to tour sniper one day, maybe not as I know TB and TBHS7T is still more crisp and firm and I have zero discomfort with any strings.But i've read somewhere, Sync in the crosses does expand the lifespan of your mains quite a bit, so i guess you're good. Still have a set of Sync left, will have to try it again sooner or later.
Pros pro concept is 30 to 40 dollars and an excellent cross but not available stationed here in Asia minor@K1Y Yes i have. Razor Code, Razor Soft, 4S and Black Code. Razor Soft played to powerfull for me. 4S was great on spin, but generally dislike how black strings feel, way to muted for my taste, while black code was average on spin. Best overal for me would have been regular Razor Code, kinda middle of the road string, but I'd rate something as Head Lynx Touch superior to that.
@maksp . Surprised to hear that. I generally like black and white strings in general a little less. So when I have other options to choose from I'll pick that. So in this case i played the orange one. Revolve to me is a string that only works as a cross, its coating will wear off over time. But right of the stringer that string should feel slick. Something is off when in your case it was not the case. Maybe a bad batch of strings??? dont know, does sound weird.
@hdjs94 Thx for the positive words![]()
Well, I'll Edit the post and put it where it should be solely based on overall quality
Everything below sync, is locked into place ranking wise. Sync and above is still not set in stone, and thus interchangable until i settle on string set up choice.
You proabably are a bit surprised that Tourbite didn't make my top 20 list. To be honest I did like it quite a bit, it is a good string but has 1 major drawback as a fullbed. Tension maintenance aint the best. What also plays its part is value for money, and i've noticed that prices for strings can greatly differ depending on where you can get them. TBHS7T I can get for 70 per reel.
Which was my string of choice after a most part of my string testing. My top 3 couple of months ago was. TBHS7T, Tour Hex, Confidential.
In a perfect world i was looking for something that played exactly the same, but a tiny bit less demanding. Some extra pop and more easy ball accellaration would be welcome.
That's where Tour Sniper comes in, as i've stated above post. Does everything that Tourna does, but in a better way. So Tour Sniper i kinda my new benchmark string.
When you look at my top 3 before Tour Sniper, you have 3 strings that all bite the ball pretty well. And as my string testing yourney continued, became convinced i prefer shaped strings.
Today I'm not so sure. String profile seem to matter less, so became less focused on 'ball bite'.
Second reason to not give it that much attention, is the fact that edges do wear off gradually, and thus are losing the 'advantage' you have of shaped string over time.
Third, importance of ball bite is imo overrated, as producing spin primarily and mostly comes tecnique /stroke mecanics/ racket head speed
As you i have a preference for crisp and more firm strings, but less focus on string profile.
I do want my strings to act/ do what i expect them to do, aka predictabilty and thus cant neglect round profile strings. I still apreciate a shaped profile, but rather not that pronounced or sharp. Tour M8 shaped but plays more like a round one. Tour Sniper 5 sided but not sharp.
You should try out every string that is remotely interesting hahah
Out of the 3 strings, Yeah Tour Bite will have to most bite. If that is your main concern, sticking with it will be fine.
In terms of firmness and crispiness, Tour Bite and Tourna are about the same. Tour Sniper is still crisp, but less crisp and firm then the other 2. Which make Tour Sniper the most comfortable of the 3. In terms of tension maintenance. Tour Bite comes last and Tour Sniper comes first as it is prestreched.
As for value for money . Tourna is at 70, Tour Bite at 115 and Tour Sniper at 129 per reel. Knowing that Tour Bite loses the quickest, and for 15 bucks extra you get a string that holds much longer, you know it is worth the extra cost of +-1 €/$ per set and that investing in TBHS7T aint a waiste of money. So yeah long story short but Tour Bite falls of the value for money cliff mainly for tension maintance reasons and is therefor not in the top 20 list.
But i've read somewhere, Sync in the crosses does expand the lifespan of your mains quite a bit, so i guess you're good. Still have a set of Sync left, will have to try it again sooner or later.
@ckhirnigs113 I actually did. On Paper that string should have suited me perfectly, but for some reason i cant put my finger on, it just didn't. Sometimes a string just doesn't click for unexplicable reason. That is what Pure Rush is to me. Ghostwire on the other hand losses tension to quick which leads to a loss in control, once i stubbled upon Ytex Pro Tour Blue, Ghostwire was kinda out of the picture.
In any case, judging tennis strings is still a very subjective thing. No TWE or Racketopedia figures or youtube or forum reviewers can tell you if a string will work for you. There is only one truth, and that truth is in the pudding. At the end of the day, the only opinion that matters is your own. Pure Rush did have string competition with Super Toro, Tour Hex, Tour Sniper, Poly Plasma Hybrid, TBHS7T.
I didn't put it aside entirely, will probably retry it sooner or later. As it happened before, that I initially didn't like a string that much, which after i while became 1 of my favourites.
The white and black versions are slick. No experience with orange but interesting that you found it the opposite!Which color revolves did you try? Orange I tried was not slick