The Shape Of Things To Come: Denis Shapovalov!

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Boris : He makes/made me very happy, he has style, he is great fun, he shakes/shook things up. He started early, was a rising star. He takes risks ( not all of which pay off ! ) He loves and lives in great Britain. He is a great man. etc etc etc ....
His best maybe yet to come - he has lots of children !!! LOL !!
Oh, you mean this BoJo, “Get me a ladder!” dude:

 

Kralingen

Legend
Yeah he has a sports psychologist and they discussed his improvements due to the psychologist a lot in the Wimbledon coverage.. lol.

At some point I look at ‘96-97 Agassi in situations like this, he had Brad Gilbert and Gil Reyes and a great team, and still got so shaken after that USO 95 loss to Pete that he turned to meth and fell to world #115. In tennis, the best team in the world can’t hit the shots for you. I think it’s clear Shapo has technical issues in terms of shot tolerance as well, it’s not just inexplicable chokes.

He’s only 22 still so has tons of time to turn it around.. one hot tournament could really change his fortunes.

that said this proves the Djoko-soul stealer hypothesis is 3-0 this year.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
With the withdrawal of Rafael Nadal, Dominic Thiem and Roger Federer already confirmed, Denis Shapovalov is certain to be seeded as high as no. 7 in the singles event at this year's U.S. Open, which gets underway in just over a week.

Perhaps this situation will inspire the Canadian, who hasn't won a match since Wimbledon. He tends to play well in New York and will be defending quarter-final points from last year's tournament.
 

Max G.

Legend
I'm a little surprised he didn't request a WC into Winston-Salem. Could use the opportunity to get some confidence.

Shapo's turned into the most perfect example of "could beat anyone, could lose to anyone". From semifinals of W to three straight 1R losses... who knows what we'll get at USO, Wimbledon Shapo or vit-kopriva shapo.
 

yokied

Hall of Fame
It’s good to see in these uncertain times that the ol’ Canadian hypetrains are still chugging along nicely. Thread pages to titles ratio still undefined for FAA but Shapo is running at a very steamy 123:1 (250) title.

Stats aside, vibe check?
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
No. 7 seed Denis Shapovalov has been drawn to play Federico Delbonis in first-round action at this year's U.S. Open. The 30-year-old Argentine is essentially a clay court specialist, but is a very experienced player and, like the Canadian, also a left-hander.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
The opportunity coming up in the next few years where a player don’t need to be better than Djokovic just better than the rest to clear up it is the biggest opportunity in the last 20 years, I look at Dennis and see the player with the most game.

He needs to put it all together sooner rather than later for me. I can deal with him not being perfect at the moment but now being 22 he shouldn’t be that player that can beat anyone and lose to anyone. He needs consistentcy. I always feel he lacks tennis IQ and how to play too his strengths, his shot selection is questionable too. He needs to hire a coach to improve this as the potential is there.
 

Max G.

Legend
Well. Of all the ways this first round could have gone, when Shapo hadn't won a match since wimbledon and hadn't won a hardcourt match since the spring, "Straightforward straight-set win with no complications" was not high on my list of expectations.

Happy to see, but I think it's the final nail in the coffin of me ever trying to predict what Shapo's form is going to be, ever.
 

Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
Well. Of all the ways this first round could have gone, when Shapo hadn't won a match since wimbledon and hadn't won a hardcourt match since the spring, "Straightforward straight-set win with no complications" was not high on my list of expectations.

Happy to see, but I think it's the final nail in the coffin of me ever trying to predict what Shapo's form is going to be, ever.
He usually has a dip where he gets himself in some trouble but not today and not always.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
Yes, a convincing win for no. 7 seed Denis Shapovalov yesterday against Federico Delbonis in the first round of the U.S. Open. The Canadian got 60% of his firsts serves in, hit 14 aces and made 38 winners in a very good performance overall. In the second round Shapovalov will face the 28-year-old Spaniard Roberto Carballes Baena, who has a career high singles ranking of no. 72.
 

Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
Yes, a convincing win for no. 7 seed Denis Shapovalov yesterday against Federico Delbonis in the first round of the U.S. Open. The Canadian got 60% of his firsts serves in, hit 14 aces and made 38 winners in a very good performance overall. In the second round Shapovalov will face the 28-year-old Spaniard Roberto Carballes Baena, who has a career high singles ranking of no. 72.
He lost to RCB last time they played, on clay, but expect he'll get him on fast hard courts. Shapo will get to the quarter final at least, confident I am.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
A straight sets win for Denis Shapovalov against Roberto Carballes Baena in second-round action at Flushing Meadows on Thursday night. Only the first set of this match was competitive; it ended on a tiebreak in which the Spaniard led by 6 points to 4. However, he was unable to convert either set point and it was Shapovalov who eventually took the tiebreak by 9 points to 7. After that it was relatively easy for the Canadian who finished up the winner by the score of 7-6(7), 6-3, 6-0.

In the third round Shapovalov will face the talented South African Lloyd Harris who leads their head-to-head 1-0, having beaten Shapovalov 8-6 in a final set tiebreak in Dubai earlier this year.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
I watched the Shapo-Harris match and just can't believe how poorly Denis played. It was as if he had no strategy whatsoever and he even attempted to play with more patience, but to no avail. Harris is someone Denis should be beating in his sleep. McEnroe was talking about how Shapo has regressed in the past 3 years and is "all at sea mentally." That Djokovic loss at Wimbledon seems to have really messed with his head.
 

Joseph_K

Hall of Fame
Denis Shapovalov is popular not only in Canada, where he grew up, but also in the United States, and a lot of his fans had gathered around the court before his quarter-final match in San Diego earlier today against Cameron Norrie.

Yesterday the Canadian had come back from a deficit of 1-4, 30-40, and later saved six set points in the opening set to beat Taylor Fritz 7-6(7), 6-2. In that match Shapovalov found some good form just in time, but was also helped by an opponent who seemed not to believe in himself when it mattered most.

In today's match against the British no. 2, Shapovalov made a solid start, and at 3-2 in the first set had one break point, which Norrie saved. After that, there was only one player in the match as the Briton settled down well to his task and the Canadian fell to pieces as he began to produce a display of ineptitude terrible even by his unpredictable standards.

At times Shapovalov played so badly that he appeared not to be caring whether he won or lost, a situation disappointing for his fans, not least those who had actually paid money to see him perform as well as his younger supporters, who might see in him someone worth emulating.

Since reaching the semi-finals at Wimbledon earlier this year Shapovalov has gone 3-6 in singles matches and had often looked as fragile/febrile as he sometimes did before he made the move up from the Challenger tour to ATP level a few years ago.

Although he is still only 22-and-a-half years old, it might be time for the Canadian to ask himself what he really wants from the sport and how he intends to fulfill his goals. And also to ask himself if, one year from now, he has still made little or no progress and is still as inconsistent as he is now, whether he might like to choose a different career.
 
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Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
Watched the Norrie, Shapovalov match and Shapovalov made critical mistakes at critical points in games! Shapovalov needs to learn how to volley for sure since I do not think at my club he would be allow in the 4.0 volley drills for doubles players he does such a poor job in volleys.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
A different career?

Geez, people overreact so much. "If he doesn't become a consistent top 10 player, might as well quit?"
Just imagine if TTW attracted our great armchair analysts back in Agassi’s darkest slide down the rabbit hole in 1997. Shapo hasn’t been out of the top 20 in nearly two years while Agassi pancaked to outside top 100. Seek a new career? LOL!
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Just imagine if TTW attracted our great armchair analysts back in Agassi’s darkest slide down the rabbit hole in 1997.
In fairness, Agassi had won 3 slams by 1997 and was a phenom when he was 17. Obviously a far greater player than Denis, it's not quite fair to compare his caliber with an ATG like Andre. But I agree with you that anyone suggesting Shapo change careers is way off base.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
In fairness, Agassi had won 3 slams by 1997 and was a phenom when he was 17. Obviously a far greater player than Denis, it's not quite fair to compare his caliber with an ATG like Andre. But I agree with you that anyone suggesting Shapo change careers is way off base.
His analogy was used because a) his slump predates the morose swamp now known as TTW existed and b) his slump was far more severe. It has nothing to do with career accomplishments and therefore is valid to use. In no way was I implying Shapo is even in the same zip code in what he has ever done Andre pre-‘97 peak.

The pedantic forum member who suggested Shapo should pick another career is the same person who called me “daft” for suggesting the WATLYNM thread I created needs to be expanded to junior boys instances when it has been posted it is solely for ATP tournament/men’s slam results. He also had a curious take on Sinner’s career path being in a “slump” around the time he had won Washington and lost 1R Toronto. Quite a “slump,” no? NCH #14, third teen title and he’s slumping? I ask who really is “daft” or is an outright troll.
 

Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
Yup. The energy of Shapo and the wisdom of Bopanna highlights the benefits of bringing together a team that compliments each other's weaknesses.
They really seem to like each other as well.
Yes, Shapo teamed with Bopanna because he wanted to shapen his net skills and other finese shots under a proven veteran.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Maple syrup tinged blood to flow or blood with a pulse of hip hop as it is pumped out?

I’m hoping Shapo spanks him hard. The adolescent tantrums that Pops engages in too frequently are very off putting. Hanging out with the Serbian madman too much.
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
Up next for Denis is the Russian lion, Aslan Karatsev. Is this the end of his IW run, or will he rise up and show us his real talent?
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Up next for Denis is the Russian lion, Aslan Karatsev. Is this the end of his IW run, or will he rise up and show us his real talent?
If he does indeed raise his level it may still not be enough. Peak redlining Karatsev can play anyone off the court and he looks primed to get deep in the draw here. Apparently desert conditions agree with him with the Doha based qualies matches for AO and a title in Dubai. This is the best he has looked since then; an 0&2 thumping of Caruso was emphatic proof he’s on a mission.
 

Max G.

Legend
Yeah, he still hasn't recovered his level. Some of his first serves in that second set were going like 4-5 feet long. He got broken on a routine forehand in the middle of the net. He's in pretty bad form, and it's not even one specific thing that's letting him down, it's a little bit of everything.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
I’ve said it before that I always felt Shap had the best tools of the next gen he just needed too put it together. Now 2 years later he is still in the same position when between 20 and 22 you should be adding consistency too your game.

Yet he is still a player that can beat anyone but lose too anyone. He lacks tactics and a tennis brain for me. He never plays smart or has a tennis IQ
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Just poor point construction and seems to be rushing almost every point. Denis' footwork looking really sharp in set one though. But Karatsev played well, more like he was playing 5 months ago.

 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
Just poor point construction and seems to be rushing almost every point. But Karatsev played well, more like he was playing 5 months ago.

That is Shap all over. Lacks Tennis IQ for me. Has weapons but seems to not know how to use them. He literally needs to get a coach that can tactically improve him
 

Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
Karatsev making Shapo look somewhat worse then he was IMHO.
The last couple of outings (not counting Pospisil) Shapo seemed to be playing OK against Harris, Medvedev and Karatsev. He still lost those three but it doesn't seem to be because of the usual problems such as a sudden dip in level or fundamental problems or mental problems, he just needs to raise his level a bit. Improvement with the net game would go a long ways.
 

Pmasterfunk

Hall of Fame
Karatsev making Shapo look somewhat worse then he was IMHO.
I only saw a few games in the first set and the last two games of the match, and it was a very up-and-down performance. He hit a couple great shots here and there and even constructed some decent points, and he managed to defend reasonably well with the BH slice a bit. Then he just shanked away opportunities on regular rally balls. The wind may have been a factor, Karatsev also hit some oddly low paced short balls in some rallies - and not junk ball type stuff, just poorly hit.

The attitude and body language at the end were pretty poor. His return continues to be a liability, as "renowned servebot" Karatsev won 100% first AND second serve points for his first 3 or 4 service games. I missed it, but I'd wager Shapo got nervous at 5-5 in the first to get broken.

Hopefully I didn't just imagine the improved slice, because that would be a very useful tool to add to his repertoire. And losing to a solid Karatsev isn't particularly embarrassing. Silver linings maybe?
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I only saw a few games in the first set and the last two games of the match, and it was a very up-and-down performance. He hit a couple great shots here and there and even constructed some decent points, and he managed to defend reasonably well with the BH slice a bit. Then he just shanked away opportunities on regular rally balls. The wind may have been a factor, Karatsev also hit some oddly low paced short balls in some rallies - and not junk ball type stuff, just poorly hit.

The attitude and body language at the end were pretty poor. His return continues to be a liability, as "renowned servebot" Karatsev won 100% first AND second serve points for his first 3 or 4 service games. I missed it, but I'd wager Shapo got nervous at 5-5 in the first to get broken.

Hopefully I didn't just imagine the improved slice, because that would be a very useful tool to add to his repertoire. And losing to a solid Karatsev isn't particularly embarrassing. Silver linings maybe?
Your logic and cogent observations are greatly appreciated, mr funk. A fresh take is always a good thing around here.
 
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