The Shape Of Things To Come: Denis Shapovalov!

Based on this thread, it looks like Denis has just over a half dozen regular fans....

stringertom, meles, Red Rick, Sysyphus, Invisiblesoul, pound cat, Shaolin, and...?

Sometimes I wonder if I am posting too much about these young guys who aren't really established on the Pro Tour....playing down in the Challenger league (or lower).
But then I say to myself..., "who cares? I think it's cool."
 
Based on this thread, it looks like Denis has just over a half dozen regular fans....

stringertom, meles, Red Rick, Sysyphus, Invisiblesoul, pound cat, Shaolin, and...?

Sometimes I wonder if I am posting too much about these young guys who aren't really established on the Pro Tour....playing down in the Challenger league (or lower).
But then I say to myself..., "who cares? I think it's cool."
You weren't here when Peliwo started his Ask Me Anything About Being A Pro thread...it was pretty much bedlam with many posters querying him about his game while he was playing Futures events shortly after his junior Slam titles. I think it got a little over the top and he probably was advised by his camp to cease and desist.
 
Based on this thread, it looks like Denis has just over a half dozen regular fans....

stringertom, meles, Red Rick, Sysyphus, Invisiblesoul, pound cat, Shaolin, and...?

Sometimes I wonder if I am posting too much about these young guys who aren't really established on the Pro Tour....playing down in the Challenger league (or lower).
But then I say to myself..., "who cares? I think it's cool."
Big benefit is we get to act like hipsters when they finally make it. We were on the Shapovalov bandwagon, before it was cool
 
Shapo goes down, 2&4. He fought off 6 MPs, five on his own serve at 3-5 but a flurry of bad returns sealed his fate the next game.

I only saw the last six games but he was clearly off his peak...perhaps fatigue from this long stretch of tournaments. He's also sporting a bit of kinesio tape on his left knee, maybe a sign he needs a bit of rest and rehab to get right.

NCH stands at #250. Now he gets some rest and then gears up for the fall U.S. Challengers and hopefully a Fritz-like jump solidly into the top 200.
 
I didn't see the match, but caught a few highlights. It seems to me that Denis' left leg had heavier and heavier taping over the past couple of weeks. A break will be healthy.

That's not to say that he hasn't had periods of sloppiness in a number of matches, and then looks spectacular in others. It will be interesting to see how he can harness his exciting style going forward.

[As a consolation to Canadian fans, recently turned 16 year old Bianca Andreescu captured her first pro tournament win in Gatineau (and she won the doubles side as well with another Canadian teen). She made the finals last year at the same tourney, won the Orange Bowl in the winter, and then had a stress fracture to deal with in the first part of this year. Now she seems to be getting back on track.]
 
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I didn't see the match, but caught a few highlights. It seems to me that Denis' left leg had heavier and heavier taping over the past couple of weeks. A break will be healthy.

That's not to say that he hasn't had periods of sloppiness in a number of matches, and then looks spectacular in others. It will be interesting to see how he can harness his exciting style going forward.

[As a consolation to Canadian fans, recently turned 16 year old Bianca Andreescu captured her first pro tournament win in Gatineau (and she won the doubles side as well with another Canadian teen). She made the finals last year at the same tourney, won the Orange Bowl in the winter, and then had a stress fracture to deal with in the first part of this year. Now she seems to be getting back on track.]
Polansky won the men's after Millot retired before a decisive third set in the final.
 
I don't really think he should be gunning for Slam main draws yet. He played like 3 good challengers. If he goes on a run in the fall, he can aim for the Aussie Open main draw
Agree; he needs the break to be totally ready for the fall U.S. Challengers. He's played a lot of tennis this year (61 matches plus qualifiers at several Futures tournaments this winter). I think that load was showing by the last two weeks...kinesio tape on that knee was a clue.
 
Before Denis gets to those fall Challengers....it was announced yesterday that he has been named to Canada's Davis Cup team for the tie against Chile this month. (Milos recovering from lingering problems from his cramping at US Open.)
 
I think his best bets might be Washington next year. Likely 2 years away from contending Masters.
 
I think his best bets might be Washington next year. Likely 2 years away from contending Masters.

Let's see how he does as he transitions to the next level. According to a recent Globe & Mail article (subscription required), Denis' near term goal to move up in ranking enough to either get into the AO, or at least get a WC. Interestingly, last year he skipped the AO juniors because it was too expensive to go, and he started on his Futures run. A good move as it turns out.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...1&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter?ord=1

"While he remains No. 4 in the ITF junior boys’ world rankings, he has stopped playing junior events in favour of Challengers. He hopes to further boost his pro ranking and earn opportunities to play events on the ATP Tour through qualifiers or wild-card invitations. His goal is to earn his way into January’s Australian Open. He plans to start with Challengers in the United States this fall."

Regarding the announcement about Davis Cup:

"“It’s so exciting for me to be one of the four guys on this team, at my age, and to go to Halifax with the pros,” said Shapovalov. “I’m not sure what I’ll play – singles, doubles – and I won’t be too upset if I don’t play at all. Maybe they’ll just have me watch since it’s my first time going. Of course, I really, really want to play, though.”

The article also talks about Shapovalov signing with sponsor Biosteel...joining high-profile stablemates Andrew Wiggins and Connor McDavid.
 
Let's see how he does as he transitions to the next level. According to a recent Globe & Mail article (subscription required), Denis' near term goal to move up in ranking enough to either get into the AO, or at least get a WC. Interestingly, last year he skipped the AO juniors because it was too expensive to go, and he started on his Futures run. A good move as it turns out.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...1&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter?ord=1

"While he remains No. 4 in the ITF junior boys’ world rankings, he has stopped playing junior events in favour of Challengers. He hopes to further boost his pro ranking and earn opportunities to play events on the ATP Tour through qualifiers or wild-card invitations. His goal is to earn his way into January’s Australian Open. He plans to start with Challengers in the United States this fall."

Regarding the announcement about Davis Cup:

"“It’s so exciting for me to be one of the four guys on this team, at my age, and to go to Halifax with the pros,” said Shapovalov. “I’m not sure what I’ll play – singles, doubles – and I won’t be too upset if I don’t play at all. Maybe they’ll just have me watch since it’s my first time going. Of course, I really, really want to play, though.”

The article also talks about Shapovalov signing with sponsor Biosteel...joining high-profile stablemates Andrew Wiggins and Connor McDavid.
"Drink the Pink!"
 
This was a cute feature. It shows off Denis' easygoing personality. But, I have to say that I hated the 'commercial' product placement for Biosteel. It felt inappropriate.

Can't really find fault with any sponsors willing to put their money into the sport, especially when it's to help a developing athlete like Shapo get himself off the ground on the tour. For that I give them a hall pass, even though it was kind of lame.
 
Rising stars of tennis: Denis Shapovalov confident junior Wimbledon win will be just the start
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Denis Shapovalov kisses the Wimbledon boys' trophy in July CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES
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Imagine being 17 years old and being the best in the world for your age at your chosen sport.

If that were the case you’d probably expect to have a pretty good chance of earning riches, fame and fortune - especially if that sport was the gilded world of tennis.

For Canada’s Denis Shapovalov that situation is the reality. Shapovalov is 17, and with a world ranking of 245 he is the highest ranked 17-year-old tennis player in the world.

He is also the Wimbledon boys’ champion, junior Davis Cupchampion, Wimbledon boys’ doubles runner-up and a former US Open boys’ doubles champion. Today he will be youngest member by nine years of Canada’s Davis Cup team for their tie against Chile.

But he is acutely aware that all of these successes and his prodigious talent offer no guarantee he will be a future star, or will even reach the world’s top 100 - the point at which players start to make a profit.

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Shapovalov celebrates his victory over Nick Kyrgios at the Rogers Cup in July
Apologies if this sounds pessimistic. It is no reflection on Shapovalov, the son of Russian parents (a Jewish father and a Catholic mother) who moved to Canada from Israel when Denis was just nine months old.

Shapovalov is a wonderfully exciting player to watch, with a varied attacking game, and a deliciously rare left-handed single-handed backhand that his mother (former player Tessa Shapovalova) encouraged him to stick with despite most coaches wincing at its unorthodoxy.

Denis started playing tennis as a five-year-old at the club where his mother coached in Toronto and has barely put a racket down since.

He continued playing at the club until the age of 13 when he turned down the chance to move to Montreal to train at Tennis Canada’s national academy and instead found a new home at Tessa Tennis, a club opened by Denis’s mother just north of Toronto.

It was at this point that Shapovalov began working with his coach Adriano Fuorivia - who has been involved in Canadian tennis for almost 20 years - and started to receive financial support from Andrzej Kepinski, a businessman and tennis fanatic who has supported many Canadian players. All the while Denis’s mother Tessa provided support and advice, and still does to this day.

Shapovolov has gone from strength to strength since then and in July he beat top-20 player Nick Kyrgios at the Rogers Cup (a Masters 1000 event, one rung below the grand slams) in a front of a raucous home crowd in Toronto. In the next round he pulled off one of the shots of the year against Grigor Dimitrov (an extraordinary between the legs 'tweener' that Shapovalov admits “I’ll never try again”).

But Shapovolov knows it’s getting harder and harder to make the step up from junior star to the professional circuit. The last Canadian man to win a junior major before Shapovolov for instance was FilipPeliwo, who is now 22 and ranked 424. Peliwo’s fellow junior slam winners in 2012 were Belgium’s Kimmer Coppejans and Australia’s Luke Saville, both now 22 and ranked 157 and 190 respectively. And of the 70 junior grand slam winners between 1990 and 2009, only five went on to win a main tour major.

So why is it so difficult to make the leap? Shapovalov, a thoughtful and engaging teenager, told The Daily Telegraph that it’s as much psychological as it is physical.

“A lot of it’s mental - a lot of the juniors once you break them or change the momentum they go away very quickly,” he says. “At the pro level they stay in the match a lot more, and they work incredibly hard to try and figure things out, and they never stop fighting.

“Those are the biggest differences I think. There are a lot of very good juniors who have a very high level but mentally they’re not quite there yet. That’s why it’s tough for them, and why some of them struggle.

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Brad Gilbert knows how tough it is to make the step up from the juniors to the main tour
“And it’s not just about being mentally tough - also in the pros you need to go for your shots. I think I’ve been doing that pretty well, keeping my level high and really going for it at key points. Some players might get nervous at those moments and that’s a big difference.”

Brad Gilbert, a former coach to Andre Agassi and Andy Murray, and the man who took Andy Roddick from promising junior to US Open champion, believes some young players struggle to adapt to the mental challenge of going from being the best to getting beaten most weeks.

“My coach told me when I turned pro is that you have to learn to lose,” he says. “So many great juniors haven’t lost a lot but then they come to the pro tour and at every level there’s only one winner every week so suddenly you can be a player who lost a couple of times a year in the juniors and then suddenly you’re losing every week and they can’t handle it.

“Reputation is a big thing as well - in the juniors everyone’s like ‘he’s the No 1 seed’, but then you go to the Futures and Challengers and it’s about what have you got on your forehand and your backhand. Whereas some players could win just based on their reputation as a junior.

“Added to that is the fact that the top guys have bigger weapons so they’re going to make more shots and get more free points.”
 
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Shapovalov’s coach Fuorivia, adds: “There’s also the hunger factor - for the pros every round means points, means dollars, means their next meal. In tennis, you only really make money inside the top 100 so those guys you’re playing, they’re battling, they want to make it to the next round. They’re going to do whatever it takes to win and stay in the match.

“The junior mentality is sometimes for people to go away faster. But in the pros, a win means a hotel room for the night, or another flight. Some of these guys are like ‘I don’t want to lose to a young kid’. These guys are fighting and grinding more and are solid more consistently. They are not going to give you as many free points as in the juniors.”

There’s also the fact that the ever-increasing depth of men’s tennis is making it harder and harder for youngsters to break through, not to mention that for a decade grand slam titles were almost exclusively hoovered up by a closed club of four.

“The biggest change in sport is athletes are doing more for a longer period of time due to training, due to diet, due to mentally being tougher,” Gilbert says.

“It’s harder to break in, it takes longer. When I turned pro [1982] it took you a couple of cups of coffee and boom you were in the top 100. You had to post a couple of wins and you were there.

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Shapovalov idolised Roger Federer growing up CREDIT: TENNIS CANADA
“Now these kids have to play Futures for a year, then the Challengers. There are 800 or 900 guys playing the tour full time so it does take longer.”

Shapovalov agrees: “It’s incredibly difficult. Everything is so much more stacked than it was even five or 10 years ago. There are so many more good players, so many solid players. The level doesn’t really drop from around 100-500, it’s really tough to make it, but I just have to work as hard as possible.”

Thankfully Shapovalov has embraced the grind of the tennis world, and though he is aware of the challenges ahead, he is confident he can overcome them.

Earlier this year the 17-year-old took the surprise step of skipping the Australian Open junior competition to play in a series of hugely unglamorous Futures events (the lowest rung of the professional ladder, two tiers below the ATP Tour) in North America. It’s a brutal, gritty landscape with sparse attendances and challenging conditionsagainst opponents fighting for their livelihoods, but it may prove to be the making of Shapovalov.

He says: “At the start of the year we wanted to play a lot of matches, so instead of paying so much money to get to Australia and not know how many matches I would get, we decided to go to Florida, which is nearby, and hopefully get a lot of matches under my belt. It was tough, but it set the tone for the rest of my season and gave me a lot of confidence and match experience, and that raised my level.”

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“I used to have a lot of tantrums on the court and wasn’t that good mentally a couple of years back. But I’ve worked really hard on that, and those Futures in Florida really toughened me up. I had to play nine matches to win a tournament within four or five days, so it’s a lot of different experiences and that has given me a real mental edge.”

In total, the Canadian won three Futures events between January and April, as well as enjoying a highly impressive run to the semi-finals of the Drummondville Challenger event, before reaching the French Open boys’ semi-final in June, winning the Wimbledon boys’ title in July, and securing that superb win over Kyrgios a few weeks later. Perhaps as impressive as his win over Kyrgios though was that Shapovalov returned to the reality of the Challenger circuit straight away and reached the quarters and then the semis at Granby and Gatineau respectively.

Shapovalov is joined on the tour by a growing group of young Canadians starting to make waves in the sport. Milos Raonic and Eugenie Bouchard have already reached major finals, and Shapovalov’s doubles partner is Félix Auger-Aliassime, 17, with whom he won the US Open boys' doubles title last year and who last week won the US Open boys' singles competition. There’s also Benjamin Sigouin, 17, who is ranked in the junior top 10 and reached the final of the US Open boys' doubles with Auger-Aliassime last week.

Shapovalov enjoys having so many fellow Canadians around but his single-minded focus is on emulating the likes of Roger Federer, Murray and Stan Wawrinka and going from junior grand slam winner to main tour star.

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He certainly believes he has what it takes to make the transition. “It’s about not caring about who the opponent is, treating every match the same. I’ve been doing a good job there,” he says.

“When I played Nick Kyrgios I just treated it as any other match - I didn’t think ‘oh my gosh it’s Nick Kyrgios’ - I just thought ‘I’m going to go and play my game, and see how far that takes me’."

Kyrgios for his part was very impressed by what he saw in Shapavolov and after being defeated by the young Canadian said: "He has a great future. I'm really looking forward to seeing how he's going to progress... He's a top player.”

When asked to describe his strengths and weaknesses, Shapavolov responds: “I have a pretty good serve, placing it well, and that really helps to set up the second shot - usually my forehand.

“As for weaknesses, I don’t have any part of my game that’s too weak. I’m fixing up my backhand, working on my returns and volleys. Nothing’s perfect but I don’t think there’s any major weakness in my game.

“Wimbledon is the slam I’m most suited to, I love playing on grass. I was 12 and 0 this season [Shapovalov won the junior Roehampton tournament as well as Wimbledon].”

Tennis analyst Craig O’Shannessy likes what he sees in Shapovalov and says: "I think of him as a lefty handed version of Federer, with that one-handed backhand.

"There is no ceiling for him. A lot of things need to go right to make the elite level, but his junior coaches have done a great job cementing technique fundamentals that he can continue to build on. He also has great energy and rapport with the crowd. That goes a long way."

Is he a future grand slam winner? "Much more yes than no. You can see all the pieces of the jigsaw sitting on the table already. Now he has a few years to make them all fit together on the big stage.

"He serves well, and controls the baseline with his forehand, which is key. His lefty play already makes opponents uncomfortable, but a lefty with an impressive forehand becomes a nightmare to play. He needs to copy [Rafael] Nadal's lefty patterns - with naturally less spin, and standing closer to the baseline.

"His run-around forehand from the deuce court is very good, and opens up nasty angles of the court. Opponents are going to go after his one-handed backhand first, so this will take some heat off it."

O'Shannessy is also not convinced that it's harder to make the leap from the juniors than it was before. "The step up is always a tough one, and the quality of play keeps rising, so yes it's harder in that instance," he says. "But juniors these days are already training so much and doing a pro schedule that they are more prepared than ever before."

Shapovalov’s coach Fuorivia, who has known him since he was six years old, says: ”Denis is definitely a go for it guy. Anything he thinks he can go for, he goes for it. That’s what’s helped him go from juniors to pros, and why so far it hasn’t been as tough a transition as some juniors have.

“From when Denis was 10 years old he always went for his shots and he still does. He has a big serve and right from that ball, he tries to dictate the point, and we’ve tried to continue that at all the levels we’ve played.

“He tells me he wants to be No 1 in the world, and if he can keep himself grounded and do the everyday things, he can get there.”

After the weekend's Davis Cup tie Shapovalov will return to the Challenger circuit, with a view to playing main tour grand slams next year. He, and all of Canada, is hoping it could be just the beginning for this exceptionally talented teenager.
 
Dancevic took care of Garin in the first rubber and Pospisil is leading Jarry in the second rubber. A clean sweep, including the dubs tomorrow, could make way for Shapo to play on Sunday. It would be against a player not much older if the Chileans don't sub in anyone...Garin and Jarry are both 20.
 
Before Denis gets to those fall Challengers....it was announced yesterday that he has been named to Canada's Davis Cup team for the tie against Chile this month. (Milos recovering from lingering problems from his cramping at US Open.)

And if anyone cares, he was first up on the 3td day of the tie. Won in 2 straight set, then
Dancevitch won the next match.

HURRAY FOR CANADA.
 
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He plays but not very good. To much errors, especially from forehand side. He needs to raise his level to win this.

I think he did alright! ;)

Not bad for a 17 year old at his first DC match, while his "peers" watch and depend on him. He won in 2 straight. Denis ultimately settled in and clearly delivered.

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I work in a job where the people on my team have to give presentations about the markets, etc. My team feels very uncomfortable if I am there watching, or if another person on our team is there. They feel perfectly fine if I'm not. It is really tough to have your "team members" watching. It's one thing to play for yourself, it's another to play for others.
 
The kid's the real deal. I think he'll have the better career than Thiem, Tomic, Raonic or any of those other pretenders to the throne. Denis has GAME.
 
You weren't here when Peliwo started his Ask Me Anything About Being A Pro thread...it was pretty much bedlam with many posters querying him about his game while he was playing Futures events shortly after his junior Slam titles. I think it got a little over the top and he probably was advised by his camp to cease and desist.
Wow. Found one for Jason Jung too:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...ssional-tennis-player-ask-me-anything.534402/
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...ut-being-a-professional-tennis-player.442583/
 
Denis is the #2 seed in qualies at the Tiburon (CA) Challenger and earned a 1R bye. He'll play Swede WC Andre Goransson 2R and may possibly face Mmoh in the final qualie round for a main draw slot.

Both Denis and Michael are playing their matches at 10:00 (PST) tomorrow. (Mmoh won his Q1 match fairly comfortably today.)
 
Update on Shapovalov...

After heading to Vienna in the fall to "test train" with Bresnik (Thiem's coach), Denis got injured and headed back to Canada to recuperate and relax. (as discussed on the teenagers thread)

Now he's into off-season training (with a recent jaunt to tour the Nike facility in Oregon and lunching with Phil Knight wedged in there ) before flying back to Europe to resume training with Bresnik.

" Shapovalov will spend the next two weeks training with Bresnik in Tenerife, Spain, alongside Thiem, world No. 11 David Goffin as well as tour journeyman Philipp Kohlschreiber. The opportunity to train with such experienced players is not lost on the 17-year-old from Richmond Hill, Ont.

"I get to hang out with Dominic Theim and all these guys who are still stars for me. It’s a little bit overwhelming. I’m excited for it. They’re great. Dominic is a hard worker. It’s going to be tough training, which is good. They’re going to be good hits. It’ll be a good experience to see how they work.” "

More at the link:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/tennis/canadian-tennis-phenom-shapovalov-looks-take-next-step-new-coach/

I guess the very first short trial worked out...at least enough to give it another go. He believes that Bresnik is what he needs to transition from #250 to #50.


 
I like this guy a lot. For me, he's 1000 times more nuanced and interesting than Kei, Raonic or Thiem.


"Nuanced" wouldn't be the word I would choose. "Aggressive" or "go-for-broke" might work better for me! That's what I like about Shapovalov. If Denis can harness his attack skills, choosing when and how to use them, he will be a killer. If not, then I'm guessing he will fizzle. I hope he succeeds!
 
Update on Shapovalov...

After heading to Vienna in the fall to "test train" with Bresnik (Thiem's coach), Denis got injured and headed back to Canada to recuperate and relax. (as discussed on the teenagers thread)

Now he's into off-season training (with a recent jaunt to tour the Nike facility in Oregon and lunching with Phil Knight wedged in there ) before flying back to Europe to resume training with Bresnik.

" Shapovalov will spend the next two weeks training with Bresnik in Tenerife, Spain, alongside Thiem, world No. 11 David Goffin as well as tour journeyman Philipp Kohlschreiber. The opportunity to train with such experienced players is not lost on the 17-year-old from Richmond Hill, Ont.

"I get to hang out with Dominic Theim and all these guys who are still stars for me. It’s a little bit overwhelming. I’m excited for it. They’re great. Dominic is a hard worker. It’s going to be tough training, which is good. They’re going to be good hits. It’ll be a good experience to see how they work.” "

More at the link:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/tennis/canadian-tennis-phenom-shapovalov-looks-take-next-step-new-coach/

I guess the very first short trial worked out...at least enough to give it another go. He believes that Bresnik is what he needs to transition from #250 to #50.

Firmly under the Dominator's wing:
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Yeah he's got game. But his backhand needs to improve if he's gonna make it very far. Lefty one handed backhands are just a big handicap, from return of serve to the rally. Sure he can crack a few nice ones but if you can disrupt his point construction by hitting to the backhand he'll max out quickly.

Yeah, the biggest liability is on return for sure. You have mostly righties on tour whose best serve is usually out wide on the deuce court going into that one handed BH. That's a big problem right there. He'll have to figure out when to attack and when to slice with that BH because he hits way too many low % BHs right now. It will be fun to see his development.
 
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