The Sinner...

USO

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Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
...shall save tennis. @Lleytonstation
Let me address your ridiculous memoranda, by laughing at all this propaganda,
You know this Sinner is just false hope, in order to find any talent you have to look under a scientific microscope,
So he made one Miami final without the big three, but we all know eventually we will see he is just a wannabe,
You think one final is something to talk about for the overhyped Sinner, but guess what, Jack Sock is also a Masters winner.
 

Nole Slam

G.O.A.T.
Let me address your ridiculous memoranda, by laughing at all this propaganda,
You know this Sinner is just false hope, in order to find any talent you have to look under a scientific microscope,
So he made one Miami final without the big three, but we all know eventually we will see he is just a wannabe,
You think one final is something to talk about for the overhyped Sinner, but guess what, Jack Sock is also a Masters winner.
Good one, lol. (y)
 

RelentlessAttack

Hall of Fame
One of the good things about sinner is besides his choking he really has a lot of room for improvement. Forehand can get heavier, stamina needs to improve, net game, serve, variety. BH is good and return seems pretty comfortable where for most next gens it’s a problem. If he stays disciplined and focused, he can go far
 

Tennisfan339

Semi-Pro
He will be in the running with Zverev, Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Theim and Rublev in the next few years, for sure. Now it's still too soon to tell he's the real deal.

The match against RBA was epic, true. Similar to the one in Dubaï. Their games balance each other out well.
 

RelentlessAttack

Hall of Fame
Only the 4th teenager to ever reach the miami final. the other 3 were djokovic, nadal, and agassi.

i'm telling ya Sinner is next up
You never know with these kids. Felix should have been and was on the rise... then he choked like a dog at Miami 2 years ago against Isner and then never put his brain together again
 

JackSockIsTheBest

Professional
Let me address your ridiculous memoranda, by laughing at all this propaganda,
You know this Sinner is just false hope, in order to find any talent you have to look under a scientific microscope,
So he made one Miami final without the big three, but we all know eventually we will see he is just a wannabe,
You think one final is something to talk about for the overhyped Sinner, but guess what, Jack Sock is also a Masters winner.
:-D
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
He clearly seems to be the next big thing, but will has to wait a few years before assuming total dominance. All the young top guys like Thiem, Meddy, Rublev, Zverev, and Tsitsipas will have their time, however long or short, at the top before Sinner becomes the man in the next 3-4 years.
 

James P

G.O.A.T.
He clearly seems to be the next big thing, but will has to wait a few years before assuming total dominance. All the young top guys like Thiem, Meddy, Rublev, Zverev, and Tsitsipas will have their time, however long or short, at the top before Sinner becomes the man in the next 3-4 years.
Or...he could just cut them in line. I remember talking about this during the '20 US Open. Those guys formerly labeled NextGen might have a microscopic window to cash their chips, maybe none at all, if the younger crop behind them are better. It'll be fun to watch it play out, one way or the other.
 

pasta

Semi-Pro
Janik Sinner at 19 years of age is much better player than Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Zverev, Rublev or Thiem at 19 years of age ... Now, how would he further develop as a player going forward ? My guess future is bright for this guy, his mind seems to be in the right place ... I have never (or I do not recall) seen backhand with so much top spin and velocity, consistently, rallying with that shot is amazing ... Piatti is great but Sinner has to find his "Vajda" who can travel with him.
This guy with +10lbs of pure muscles ... ? Scary ...

BTW, did anybody notice how Rublev's physique is changing ... he is adding some "meat to the bone" ...
 

Red Rick

Bionic Poster
Or...he could just cut them in line. I remember talking about this during the '20 US Open. Those guys formerly labeled NextGen might have a microscopic window to cash their chips, maybe none at all, if the younger crop behind them are better. It'll be fun to watch it play out, one way or the other.
I'm increasingly leaning towards an era where nobody dominates or is far ahead of the rest. Especially Tsitsipas, Medvedev and Zverev rolling over in Miami just tells me they might nab a Slam but won't be much better than their peers. Sinners stats aren't high, and I'm inclined to think he'll lack the serve/return combo to be way ahead of the pack either.
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Or...he could just cut them in line. I remember talking about this during the '20 US Open. Those guys formerly labeled NextGen might have a microscopic window to cash their chips, maybe none at all, if the younger crop behind them are better. It'll be fun to watch it play out, one way or the other.
I hear you, but I would still accept that the current NextGen stars - T(hiem)M(ed)Z(ed)T(sitsi)R(ub) - are actually not too bad and may snatch a couple of slams from Big 3 this year. Sinner is still young and needs more time to mature although he is already very good. FAA is another star I'm keeping an eye on but his progress is not as fast as I anticipated. I like his game believe he has a good future. We have quite a group of youngsters who can legitimately push out the old top dogs from top spots soon. I expect TMZTR to dominate men's tennis for next 3 years, pushing Big 3 away from top in the process.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Janik Sinner at 19 years of age is much better player than Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Zverev, Rublev or Thiem at 19 years of age ... Now, how would he further develop as a player going forward ? My guess future is bright for this guy, his mind seems to be in the right place ... I have never (or I do not recall) seen backhand with so much top spin and velocity, consistently, rallying with that shot is amazing ... Piatti is great but Sinner has to find his "Vajda" who can travel with him.
This guy with +10lbs of pure muscles ... ? Scary ...

BTW, did anybody notice how Rublev's physique is changing ... he is adding some "meat to the bone" ...
Sinner being better at 19 than those guys doesn't mean much. Hewitt was better than Federer at 19-21 and it didn't mean much in the end.
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
Let me address your ridiculous memoranda, by laughing at all this propaganda,
You know this Sinner is just false hope, in order to find any talent you have to look under a scientific microscope,
So he made one Miami final without the big three, but we all know eventually we will see he is just a wannabe,
You think one final is something to talk about for the overhyped Sinner, but guess what, Jack Sock is also a Masters winner.
so he is less hyped than faa or any other player from north america. Sinner is younger than Thiem so he has enough years to win grandslams.
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
One of the good things about sinner is besides his choking he really has a lot of room for improvement. Forehand can get heavier, stamina needs to improve, net game, serve, variety. BH is good and return seems pretty comfortable where for most next gens it’s a problem. If he stays disciplined and focused, he can go far
his forehand is pretty good mind you. and why isnt his footwork never mentioned?
 

pasta

Semi-Pro
Sinner being better at 19 than those guys doesn't mean much. Hewitt was better than Federer at 19-21 and it didn't mean much in the end.
Exactly my point, he is quite good now but how will he develop is another matter.

Bernard Tomic was quite good and promising player at 19 ...
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
Agreed.

It's not so much just simply because Sin has beat player xyz or because he has managed to be ranked x at the age of y — but rather because of all the other elements are there — including the intangibles. Even when he loses you can see he has made it hard on his opponents, regardless of who they are. That's very key for me. He's got the game, the body, mind and attitude, discipline, as well as the sustained improvement — he is still developing.
 
N

Nuclear Warhead Sinner

Guest
His name is appropriately short and catchy (unlike Felix Auger-Aliassime) for ATG material, so I will accept the hype.
An often overlooked criterion to determine ATG, might I add.
Plus he isn't too handsome to be ATG. He'll get classier and more refined with the years, as Federer did. The Vogue sponsor will help a lot with that. Much to the pleasure of @BeatlesFan
 

pasta

Semi-Pro
At this point it is all about consistency ... It takes a while to develop that consistency ... "Ups" are winning and "Downs" are getting far few and between ...

I would not be surprised to see Hurkacz win ...

But, being in the early spring season it is fun to watch these new "buds" come to the full bloom ...

Big, big test for Sinner tomorrow, clearly a favorite - can he deliver ?

I wished for Sinner-Korda final :(
 

TheRed

Hall of Fame
Exactly my point, he is quite good now but how will he develop is another matter.

Bernard Tomic was quite good and promising player at 19 ...
I agree with your point but not your example. I saw 10 min of Tomic and thought he was way over hyped. His awkward strokes helped him get an edge early before he got figured out. He's tall and slow, but has no power on groundstrokes or serve.
 

pasta

Semi-Pro
No,no,no ... I remember being in Indian Wells in 2007 and young kid named "Djokovic" made the finals ... and got smoked by Nadal ... me and my friends all agreed that this is the guy to beat ...
I would bet my money on this guy wining majors soon !
 

pasta

Semi-Pro
I agree with your point but not your example. I saw 10 min of Tomic and thought he was way over hyped. His awkward strokes helped him get an edge early before he got figured out. He's tall and slow, but has no power on groundstrokes or serve.
Yes, Tomic' peak was 2011 ... game changed in 10 years ...

Agassi and Sampras look like relics of the game ... Federer best days are on YouTube and Djokovic and Nadal are heading there as well ...
 
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