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Feña14

G.O.A.T.
How odd (cue X-Files theme music)... Earlier I spent at least ten minutes making a post up about this topic and then posted it - or so I thought. I now see it never got posted at all... spooky.:shock: :)

Yes, it's what I was tipped off about last week and then tipped you all off about... Levy wants him gone after the disasters of post-February and the multi-level failings that have now materialized. HR wants 3-4-year contract (or says he does - of course he'd far prefer to manage England, Chelsea or anyone else he fancies in his inimitable opportunistic way). Both are in something of an attritional battle. But FWIW, I can't quite see him quitting as he'd surely lose compensation money. But however it comes about exactly, surely (please God!) his time is very nearly up now!:twisted:

Seems like you have some good sources! Maybe Redknapp is a moderator here and decided he didn't want it posted :)

He was categorically denying he had quit the club, maybe he was doing that to make it clear he was being fired? As you say, it's the only way he will get the compensation.
 

Dave M

Hall of Fame
?????? Watching a different game to me, looked good defensively, although french attack was turd. The odd few cohesive passing sequences, yes a couple, come on ross we lost the ball like we always do, welbeck did nothing, oxy had a few runs them lost the ball, we looked laboured in the sun, young hardly touched the ball, our foreward thinking backs hardly got over the half way line.......it was painful in the main, ok I'd be happy if I was blackburn going to old trafford and getting ten behind the ball and holding out for a draw, good job we scored first cos if we don't we'll be out very quickly chasing the game.

Well, I don't agree. No, I don't think we're brilliant now and we'll win the Euros - ho, ho. But it was more than encouraging imo. BTW, Did you see Viera on TV pantsing it at half-time saying we were tactically much better and bossing it for 30 minutes? I also think you're possibly slightly underestimating France, who with Nasri and Riberry were causing me to do my own pantsing everytime they were on the edge of our box! :) Anyhow, I thought a draw with a quality France side was a fair result - and as someone haunted by England under Cappello, that's not so bad.

I recorded it as i was driving back from London when it was live, managed to miss the scores on the radio all the way home.Ended up getting a bit bored after 15 mins or so and watched the next 75 on 6x speed, i though Ox looked quite dynamic when i saw it like that.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Congratulations, Ross! Redknapp has been fired :)

Sounds ike we've both had a good day, Di Matteo gets the Chelsea job and you get rid of Harry.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Just heard a rumour and came on here to check it out!Sure Ross will be happy, so who now then for Spurs?

I heard bookmakers have stopped taking bets on Moyes, but I think Martinez will be in the mix too.

I'm sure Ross will tell you who he wants though :)
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
I thought Arsenal and Chelsea were the clubs in crisis? Amazing what half a year does.

True, I posted an article from January saying how Modric had dodged a bullet by not getting the Chelsea move last summer, how Chelsea were falling like a rock and Tottenham were on their way to being title challengers for the coming years.

If he had of got the move he would have a Champions League winners medal and be in the tournament next year, funny how things can change.
 

PED

Legend
Just heard a rumour and came on here to check it out!Sure Ross will be happy, so who now then for Spurs?

Big Sam I hope :twisted:

Good news on Bentner scoring 2 today, maybe we can sell him at a decent price now.

The Dutch looked awful today-so many different options but the coach seems really hard headed, how could they not start Huntelaar?

After that display, I'll bet Fergie is glad he dodged the bullet an buying Scheinder, he wanted 200k a week, no thanks.
 

Ross K

Legend
Hallelujah... finally Redknapp has gone! :)

Part 2 of the equation though is of course who now steps in.

My previous favourite ended up being Rodgers, but that's a non-starter now. Moyes and Martinez will be strongly considered (though I probably wouldn't go for either personally, not the somewhat negative-minded DM anyhow). AVB (hmm, I wonder), Deschamps (interesting), Rijkaard (I hope), Rafa Benitez (hmm), and a load of European coaches basically will all be considered by Levy. Is it already done and dusted, or are we in for a lengthy period of interviews, candidates being considered, etc? Let the fun begin!

So... I've been asking for this for months, posting you all into a coma-like condition with (good title for a book this) The Neurotic Rantings of a Disenchanted Tottengham Fan - ha, ha... but, yes, I'm happy. It's what had to happen IMO.
 

Ross K

Legend
Big Sam I hope :twisted:

Good news on Bentner scoring 2 today, maybe we can sell him at a decent price now.

The Dutch looked awful today-so many different options but the coach seems really hard headed, how could they not start Huntelaar?

After that display, I'll bet Fergie is glad he dodged the bullet an buying Scheinder, he wanted 200k a week, no thanks
.

I'm a big fan of Wesley S. Not saying he's worth 200k but he's a class act imo, a phenomenal eye for a pass and a superb energy - when he hasn't been previously wrecked by an injury-plagued season.

The Dutch manager probably deserves the sack simply for his dreadful mess up of playing Willems. These coaches are paid a bloody fortune, so I can't fathom it at all that he seems to have had an issue identifying a few decent defenders from the ranks of Dutch football.

Has to be said, they looked a bit better in the second half what with the change in system and players. Also has to be said, the Germans looked awesome at times, just scarily good.
 

Breaker

Legend
Not Willems' fault Afellay and Robben wouldn't track back leaving him exposed in 2 on 1s all game - Van Der Wiel and Matheisen were much worse than him and to say he's not even decent is a bit harsh, in fact thought he was one of the best on the pitch in the second half.
 

PED

Legend
The Dutch manager probably deserves the sack simply for his dreadful mess up of playing Willems.

Spread some jam on him, he's toast!

Have not seen that bad of a defensive display since the Gunners torched good old Frank LeBoeuf about 12 years back :twisted:

I was probably too harsh on Wesley as he's class but not playing any where near his best. VdV might have been a better option given current form but not wild about his attitude.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Just got back from dropping my sister off at Heathrow to find the papers are now saying we're after Ben Arfa (£26 Million!?) and Jovetic for £20 Million, which would be a great price.

We're probably paying a bit too much attention to a similar type of player for my liking. Someone to compete with Torres, a creative passer deeper in midfield and a right back is needed.

No doubt 1 more winger is needed, but there are other important areas we have to get sorted.
 

Ross K

Legend
Next Spurs boss?

I see AVB is rising higher in the betting stakes to be the next Spurs boss. Same with deBoer. Hmmm...

Well, it certainly isn't easy, even for us fans, to identify a choice. As well as AVB and the Ajax boss, Deschamp, Rijkaard, Rafa B, Capello, Martinez, a few German coaches, ditto Spanish, a few Italians shouts too... well, you get the point - there's plenty there to consider.

Whoever it is though, it's strongly thought that Levy wants to reinstate the director of football role, so the new manager will need to be someone who can work in that system.

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if AVB wouldn't be worth seriously considering. His man management skills are the big concern for me. But he'd be burning with desire to prove Roman wrong and to make good on his fraught Chelsea experience. He is familiar with the PL. He does have an undoubted proven European pedigree. He's innovative and tactically interesting... What do others think here?

In tandem with that, my thoughts are presently revolving around Deschamps and deBoer - both with excellent credentials. Frank Rijkaard is someone I've long thought could be a great appointment. And as for Martinez, he excites and terrifies me in equal measure.
 

norbac

Legend
Just got back from dropping my sister off at Heathrow to find the papers are now saying we're after Ben Arfa (£26 Million!?) and Jovetic for £20 Million, which would be a great price.

We're probably paying a bit too much attention to a similar type of player for my liking. Someone to compete with Torres, a creative passer deeper in midfield and a right back is needed.

No doubt 1 more winger is needed, but there are other important areas we have to get sorted.

Ben Arfa? I hope he stays at Newcastle, I really like what they're doing over there and would like to see the main core group stay for a season or two. Becoming a bit of a Magpies fan.....
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Ben Arfa? I hope he stays at Newcastle, I really like what they're doing over there and would like to see the main core group stay for a season or two. Becoming a bit of a Magpies fan.....

I think they will probably sell one of their main players. The owner is often seen as being at the club for the money, plus they will need funds to get new players. They have great scouts that they trust, they back themselves to find even better replacements, which is a nice way of doing things.

As for who goes, that's a tough one! Possibly Tiote, maybe Ben Arfa. I don't think Ben Arfa is the player Chelsea should be looking at, and the price they want for him is too much anyway. I could see Tiote maybe moving to Man Utd.

AVB and Tottenham? Hmm, it's tough to say how that one would work out. It did seem to all go wrong at Chelsea, for whatever reason. Maybe it was just a bad fit, he was expected to play the style he won with at Porto, with a team full of older players, which was never going to happen. He was on a hiding to nothing I suppose.
 

PED

Legend
Not sure why Levy wants to re do the director of football, didn't work out too well last time. I think it makes too many cooks in the kitchen. I agree that Harry had to go but what has levy really accomplished during his time as chairman?

I'm with Fena, not sure avb is the man for the job. I wonder if Modric will be on his way now, he looked pretty lively against Italy yesterday.
 

norbac

Legend
I think they will probably sell one of their main players. The owner is often seen as being at the club for the money, plus they will need funds to get new players. They have great scouts that they trust, they back themselves to find even better replacements, which is a nice way of doing things.

As for who goes, that's a tough one! Possibly Tiote, maybe Ben Arfa. I don't think Ben Arfa is the player Chelsea should be looking at, and the price they want for him is too much anyway. I could see Tiote maybe moving to Man Utd.

AVB and Tottenham? Hmm, it's tough to say how that one would work out. It did seem to all go wrong at Chelsea, for whatever reason. Maybe it was just a bad fit, he was expected to play the style he won with at Porto, with a team full of older players, which was never going to happen. He was on a hiding to nothing I suppose.

Didn't Ba want to leave as well? His form kind of dipped in 2012.....
 

PED

Legend
England looking good. Nice to see Stevie G and Carroll hooking up in the air: nice preview for Liverpool next year.

Carroll working hard and tracking back as well.

Ibra is surprisingly fast, kinda funny to watch the defenders just bounce off him. With that speed and power, surprised he never played in the PL, guess he prefers the no contact leagues: La Liga and Serie A ;)


Fena, with Torres new found form, it's like you guys have a new signing. He's def up for in this tourney.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Fena, with Torres new found form, it's like you guys have a new signing. He's def up for in this tourney.

I'll reserve judgement on that one :) He's put in great performances against weaker teams before this season, Ireland were so poor defensively yesterday.

If he could perform like that against all kinds of teams, every week, then that would be great news.
 

Meaghan

Hall of Fame
England......watching the first ten minutes I said to the missus that only gerrard and johnson actually look comfortable on the ball, the rest are a jittery wreck, I like lescott defensively but don't let him pass the ball please.

What happened to young and cole?

Welbeck and carroll took their goals real well and we are crying out for walcott to just run at defenses.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
England......watching the first ten minutes I said to the missus that only gerrard and johnson actually look comfortable on the ball, the rest are a jittery wreck, I like lescott defensively but don't let him pass the ball please.

What happened to young and cole?

Welbeck and carroll took their goals real well and we are crying out for walcott to just run at defenses.

Johnson actually did really well, that was a pleasant surprise. I didn't see Sweden's second goal, but Terry was great throughout. It was funny when the commentators were giving him stick for his lack of pace against Ibrahimovic when they were 1 on 1, fearing for him, only for him to nick it off Ibra's foot and run it up into midfield :) Classic Terry.
 

Ross K

Legend
Having given them more praise than anyone around here certainly after the France match (well, that was a very good French side, began my rationale), I've got to say I sat in horror for long spells tonight (well, that was a very poor Swedish side, begins my rationale now).

Okay, not a new issue, but just WHAT IS THIS problem with keeping hold of the ball in a vaguely assured manner?!

Young - who I also praised recently - was woefully s***!... and I thought stuck out wider there was considered his best position?! His tendency to cut inside ALL THE TIME is infuriating. And going 'rogue commando' like he did also and playing all over the front line was similarly ineffective. Conversely, compared to him, Milner (and I thought he was poor against France), was far more effective tonight.

Cole had the worst game I've seen him play in living memory (Is it somehow connected to his new 'Last of the Mohicans' haircut, I wonder?!) - very erratic. He definitely doesn't do this for Chelski in the CL.

And what about our much heralded defence ("Our defence is absolutely 'triffic. There ain't a better one at the Euros than ours" - Harry Redknapp, haha)? What were these defensive titans doing on especially Swedan's second goal?

On the plus side, Carroll took his goal wonderfully well, just textbook stuff. Gerrard made a good contribution generally (sorry Fena) - and how about that cross for Carrolls header? Welbeck is stepping up. Best of all, Walcott saved our backsides with the kind of display that made Barca terrified of him a few years back, and has convinced me that he needs to start in future... him running with the ball made a massive difference.

But to struggle so against Swedan really doesn't bode well when you consider Germany (who let's not forget ANNIHILATED us at the last World Cup), Spain (who I loved watching yesterday and not least in how they get the ball back and swarmed all over Ireland - it was as if they had 15 players out there), Italy, and whoever, may well still await.
 

PED

Legend
Walcott should surely start out wide for however many games are left....

Plus one on this.

Also,Milner not good enough at this level.

Johnson dangerous to Sweden going forward. Johnson dangerous to England while defending. All kidding aside, , I thought he did pretty well but agree with Ross, Cole had a rough game.

Ballack is presenting on Espn, he's a bit of a d$&k, tbh. A little too arrogant for my taste.
 

Ross K

Legend
^ Talking of Johnson, it's a real shame Adam Johnson isn't there. Since when can we afford to leave such talent behind?...

BTW, Anyone see old psycho nuts Roy Keane the other night on TV totally disparaging Robbie Keane? He cheerily told the watching millions how Robbie had never done it at the highest level and couldn't be considered a true great or something... never one to mince his words eh?
 

Meaghan

Hall of Fame
Ross Roy keane is a nob

Fena Terry played well

Gerrard was man of the match, prob needs to be freed up as he's much more effective going forward, creating.

Totally agree about adam johnson, we need players who are comfortable on the ball.

Hopefully welbeck will gain some confidence from his goal and prob good to have carroll come off the bench.....

Rooney's back so thats gives us that extra man in midfield.

Not too hopeful of getting out of the group, I think we'll get beaten by ukraine.
 

NickC

Professional
Ross Roy keane is a nob

Fena Terry played well

Gerrard was man of the match, prob needs to be freed up as he's much more effective going forward, creating.

Totally agree about adam johnson, we need players who are comfortable on the ball.

Hopefully welbeck will gain some confidence from his goal and prob good to have carroll come off the bench.....

Rooney's back so thats gives us that extra man in midfield.

Not too hopeful of getting out of the group, I think we'll get beaten by ukraine.

I actually think England have been quite decent without Rooney, I don't think he should start their next match because England have looked a cohesive unit and seem to be playing well together and it might not be good to mess with something that's actually worked so far.
 

Meaghan

Hall of Fame
I actually think England have been quite decent without Rooney, I don't think he should start their next match because England have looked a cohesive unit and seem to be playing well together and it might not be good to mess with something that's actually worked so far.

You're not messing with the system you are only changing the forward in the hole, tbh rooney will give more options for gerrard to express himself.
 

Ross K

Legend
I certainly agree with Nick ^ that England have fared very well without Rooney in the sense they seem more cohesive. Not sure he should be demoted, but Welbeck and Carroll have impressed. Young, however, especially V Swedan, was total BLX IMO. Then there's Walcott too of course... as I was saying this morning, when at it and in form, he is quite brilliant.

Defensively I'm more worried though. Parker couldn't cope with Zlatan I (though it must be said he's a wicked player), and Gerrard, Terry and Johnson, for slightly different reasons, appeared right at their defensive limits (I also thought Cole was strangely a bit all over the shop yesterday). I say again, what happens when it's Spain or Germany or whoever, who will doubtless have more than just one worldclass offensive player causing them no end of trouble?
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
I agree, England have looked pretty good without Rooney. I'm sure he will probably come back in and play behind Welbeck, with Young and Milner out wide. I like having Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain coming off the bench to stretch tired teams with their pace.

I see Chelsea have finally been linked with Debuchy, i've been saying it for months! It's a shame it took a couple of decent performances at the Euro's for the club to take notice of him. Schweinsteiger is another name mentioned, but only because Abramovich was watching Germany train and they bumped into each other :) you've got to love the silly season.
 

PED

Legend
I think theo should start over Milner, his pace is much more dangerous. Not to hammer him but Milner doesn't really do anything that well at this level.
 

SempreSami

Hall of Fame
The impact Walcott had running in a straight line past tired defenders suggests he might be more valuable remaining a sub.
 

SempreSami

Hall of Fame
I agree, England have looked pretty good without Rooney. I'm sure he will probably come back in and play behind Welbeck, with Young and Milner out wide. I like having Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain coming off the bench to stretch tired teams with their pace.

I see Chelsea have finally been linked with Debuchy, i've been saying it for months! It's a shame it took a couple of decent performances at the Euro's for the club to take notice of him. Schweinsteiger is another name mentioned, but only because Abramovich was watching Germany train and they bumped into each other :) you've got to love the silly season.

Imagine if Abramovich was ever spotted playing Football Manager. Chelsea would be linked with every wonderkid going.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
The impact Walcott had running in a straight line past tired defenders suggests he might be more valuable remaining a sub.

Agree, I like him more off the bench. Oxlade-Chamberlain is probably better as a starter out of the two.

Imagine if Abramovich was ever spotted playing Football Manager. Chelsea would be linked with every wonderkid going.

True, i'd of thought the silly stories would of started coming out after the Euro's, it's a shame to see them already making an appearance. Schweinsteiger is certainly the type of player we need (the classy, ball playing central midfielder similar to Modric etc..) but getting him to want to leave Bayern Munich would be pointless.
 

Ross K

Legend
AVB for Spurs?

Certainly everything I'm hearing and checking out is pointing to AVB as being made Spurs boss shortly.

So, quite possibly, we're either going to get a somewhat petulant very young manager with alarmingly poor communication and man management skills who failed badly at Chelsea and who previously succeeded at a club where it's miles easier to succeed than in the PL; or a tactically innovative, attack-minded, younger-player orientated top, top draw European coach par excellence with a burning desire to prove Chelsea wrong!

Let's pray it's the latter.:wink:

Whatever. I feel it has to be AVB now. Just think about the symmetry here... the team whose older guard cast him out, then proved their quality in winning the CL - and in the process ballsed up Tottenham's at one point seemingly nailed on CL spot... well, for him to take charge at WHL just makes perfect sense really.
 

PED

Legend
He will have learned from his experience at Chelsea and don't forget that roman was supposed to give him four years to turn it around not seven months. As Fena will probably agree, Stamford bridge is a highly political place to coach and the pressure should be relatively less at WHL.
 

SempreSami

Hall of Fame
He will have learned from his experience at Chelsea and don't forget that roman was supposed to give him four years to turn it around not seven months. As Fena will probably agree, Stamford bridge is a highly political place to coach and the pressure should be relatively less at WHL.

I'm more interested in seeing how far the yes-man Di Matteo can take Chelsea now that they're freely spunking money again.
 

Ross K

Legend
I'm fascinated to see if Rodgers can now scale the heights with Liverpool.

Lambert at Villa will be worth watching.

Laudrup at Swansea will be very interesting also.

We've hardly finished and I'm already really looking forward to next season - LOL!

BTW, Aren't Chelsea just going to wait a year and unless DiMatteo wins the FA Cup (again), CL (again), PL, The Ashes, The Stanley Cup, The Superbowl, The Rugby World Cup, The Calcutta Cup and gawd knows what else - do everything in their power to lure Pep (and give DiMatteo the boot)?
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
BTW, Aren't Chelsea just going to wait a year and unless DiMatteo wins the FA Cup (again), CL (again), PL, The Ashes, The Stanley Cup, The Superbowl, The Rugby World Cup, The Calcutta Cup and gawd knows what else - do everything in their power to lure Pep (and give DiMatteo the boot)?

Haha! I think he will be fine. It's great to have a manager who is a Chelsea man. They showed a clip on Soccer AM when he got the job, it was him on the show 7 years ago saying his dream was to manage Chelsea one day.

We've had some great managers, Mourinho, Scolari, Ancelotti etc.. Mourinho grew to love the club over the years, but to have someone as the manager who started the upward curve in the mid to late 90's is great.
 

NickC

Professional
Haha! I think he will be fine. It's great to have a manager who is a Chelsea man. They showed a clip on Soccer AM when he got the job, it was him on the show 7 years ago saying his dream was to manage Chelsea one day.

We've had some great managers, Mourinho, Scolari, Ancelotti etc.. Mourinho grew to love the club over the years, but to have someone as the manager who started the upward curve in the mid to late 90's is great.

I'd rather have Jogi Low than Pep. Give him some cash and maybe have Pep as director of the youth academy or the reserves, and bring in Hiddink as director of football.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
I'd rather have Jogi Low than Pep. Give him some cash and maybe have Pep as director of the youth academy or the reserves, and bring in Hiddink as director of football.

Haha, the Dream Team! I'm sure they'd do a great Boyz II Men at the office Christmas party ;)
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
So the Community Shield at Villa Park for the first trophy of the season, then Wigan away for the best pies in the league and 3 points to set us off to getting the title back :)

Hopefully the League is as entertaining next year as it was last season. Would be great to be in the mix at the end this time round!
 

Ross K

Legend
Transfer speculation is mounting (and what a great fit this would be)... Pullis and Stoke are apparently putting in a bid for David Nalbandian... :lol:
 
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