Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.
Barca have scored in extra time, it's 10 vs 10 now... Very close to defending the domestic double.
It's absolutely disgusting how Spanish teams can talk, complain, wave with arms, scream at and even push the referee and receive hardly any punishment. Fantastic football in the last few years, but this is a huge stain on them.
The record is stretched, 28 Spanish Cups for Barcelona. Visca!
After that period of several consecutive losses I thought they will lose all 3 titles. But instead Barca managed to defend the domestic double.
Seeing captain Iniesta crying, players bringing their kids, Enrique dancing, listening Queen's "We are the Champions" and FC Barcelona's anthem while the whole crowd is full of Catalan flags... So beautiful.
Moltes gracies Barca.
Time for the cup winners this time. Congratulations:
Paris Saint Germain
In August we will have:
Leicester City vs Manchester United - Community Shield, Wembley
Barcelona vs Sevilla - Supercopa de Espana, two legged tie, first Sanchez Pizjuan, then Camp Nou
Juventus vs Milan - Supercopa Italiana, venue to be decided
Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich - DFL-Supercup, Signal Iduna Park
Paris Saint Germain vs Olympique Lyonnais - Trophee des Champions, venue to be decided
PSV Eindhoven vs Feyenoord - Johan Cruijff Schaal, Amsterdam ArenA
Benfica vs Braga - Supertaca Candido de Oliveira, Estadio Municipal de Aveiro
Sevilla await the winner of the Champions League, and will play the UEFA Super Cup at Lerkendal Stadion in Trondheim. Excellent chance for me to attend it.
Ok, this rumor beats all others.
Ibrahimovic to become Mourinho's assistant manager.
Enjoy the double celebrations mate.
Ushering in the Jose Mourinho era at Man U.
So - from one defensive dinosaur - to another
Utd fans must be delirious
Sky will have the biggest rubfest next year - they finally got their 3 fanboy favourites in the north next year. The prematch buildups would be utter vomit
It will end badly but there will probably be glory in between.
There doesn't need to be legacies built. Money and wage bills decide football so the big teams will always be close to the top or not far away for long, Chelsea will be back up there soon. Managers are just about the extra 10%.
All mangers are short term btw.
What about Klopp at Dortmund, he was fighting relegation in his last season @Muzziah. Quite similar to Jose really. Very similar in the sense they wear out their players with their intensity.
Anfield will be buzzing yes (for United), normally one of the quietest grounds. Not often you here the manager's voice and individual shouts from fans when watching on TV.
Also United didn't leak the story on Mourinho lol, why would they do that? It was Mourinho's ***** of an agent (Jorge Mendes) who did that. He was getting some cold
revenge on LvG for the De Gea, Di Maria and Falcao situations. All players represented by Mendes.
Well this couldn't be more wrong, it is one of his biggest strengths. Managing all star squads (Real) is his weakness. He won the Champions Legaue with Porto, incredible over achievement. His time at Lieria was brilliant too.
LVG sacked. Statement coming at 1. According to sky.
Thank you very much Chealsea!
Thanks for ending the FA Cup drought and continuing the youth policy, Van Gaal.
Pity it didn't work out...
It is our fault. Behind the times and not understanding the philosophy. The 1.29 goals per game era. Even with all that, he still managed to win the FA Cup. LVG, I salute you.
Tough to really understand this philosophy...
I hope Giggs stays or returns one day.
LOL at which away match did that happen? I forgot.
Yeah, interesting to see what happens to Giggsy now. Could GuruJose be his final teacher before he does take the hot seat? I was/am anti Giggs taking over now because we need a proven winning manager for this situation we are in. As for the future, we will see.
That image is from Newcastle back in March 2015.
I am against him becoming the manager right now too, but as time goes, he could be great. Sir Alex, Moyes, Van Gaal and Mou definitely help.
Oh yes, Young scored the late winner.
No official statement yet.
Goodbye Mr Philosopher, enjoy your retirement...
I will miss him.
Full statement from Louis himself:
It has been an honour to manage such a magnificent club as Manchester United FC, and in doing so, I have fulfilled a long-held ambition.
I am immensely proud to have helped United win the FA Cup for the 12th time in the club's history. I have been privileged during my management career to have won 20 trophies but winning the FA Cup, which is steeped in so much history, will always be one of the most special achievements of my career.
I am very disappointed to be unable to complete our intended three-year plan. I believe that the foundations are firmly in place to enable the club to move forward and achieve even greater success.
I hope that winning the FA Cup will give the club a platform to build upon next season to restore the success that this passionate set of fans desire.
Having managed in Holland, Spain and Germany, I had always hoped for the opportunity to manage in English football and be part of English culture. Both of these experiences have lived up to expectations and been fantastic.
I thank my players and wish them well for next season. It has been a pleasure to work with them and it has been particularly rewarding to see so many young players take their chance to break into the first team and excel. I look forward to watching the continued development of these young players next season.
Thank you to the owners and board of Manchester United for giving me the opportunity to manage this great club.
I would also like to express my gratitude to the amazing United supporters. They are truly the best fans in the world.
I am indebted to my support and coaching staff, who have given me their all during their time at the club.
I am deeply grateful to each and every member of the club’s staff - the sports science team, the medical team, the kit and laundry department, club administration, the press office, the manager's team, the Academy team, ground staff and the catering team, both at Old Trafford stadium and Carrington training ground, all of whom have given me their unwavering support in my time at United. Never in my 25 years as a manager have I been so well supported in my role.
Finally, my special thanks go to Sir Alex Ferguson and Sir Bobby Charlton for always making me and my family feel so welcome throughout my time as Manchester United manager.
don't tell me you're one of those that call klopp a "loser", just because he lost a few finals? Not to mention his team was the underdog going into the final most of the times, and were all close matches, he was just a bit unlucky, it happens.
As for the atmosphere at anfield being one of the worst of the country, pleaseeee
I've said it here before too, that the atmosphere in the games against the midtable teams is pretty bad, especially if it's a weekend game where you have to deal with the tourists who all they want is to take selfies and post them on facebook (although theyre not the only ones to blame for the lack of good atmosphere, I know locals who go to games and instead of standing up and sing, they sit down on their arses for 90 minutes checking their phones, storm out before ht to go to the canteen etc that's just unacceptable imo). You have the kop trying to create some noise (and some blocks of the anny Road) but generally it's below average especially if it's not am important game. But let's be honest the same can be said for nearly every ground in the land. Especially as far as the big teams are concerned. Emirates is the worst along with etihad, they're not even worth a comment. OT is generally awful, they only sing when we come over, not even during the Manchester Derby (it sounds like a theater parts of the game - oh the irony ). Stamford Bridge i think its a bit better then those mentioned at least singing wise but they ruin it all with those cringey plastic flangs, it really is embarrassing. I'll never forget Gerrards last game there, absolute ****ehole with those "banners" (they applauded him while he was going off and Gerrard in his post match comments gave them stick for doing so). Spurs is decent but they're not a big club anyway and I'm 100% sure changing grounds will affect the whole feeling. I'd say overall the best are Palace (although I don't like all that drum banging and whenever I tune in they seem to always sing they same song all over again), and Stoke probably. St James Park can be very toxic too even against their own team Upton Park deserves a mention too but we'll never see it again, sadly.
Point is, is anfield good against the likes of Norwich etc on a Sunday afternoon? No, it's pretty disappointing. But ths same applies to every other ground too, as I said the other big teams are even worse.
You see the real anfield in the derbies especially in midweek/night/European games. And no other ground In Europe can compare to it. Chelsea 05 semifinal probably the best game I've ever been for atmosphere. Mental. I'll never forget that feeling. Better then sex. United, Dortmund, and Villarreal this season were all brilliant, not Chelsea 05,07 bracket but definitely the best since 2009 (add to that the title run in games in 2013/14 although I feel even them weren't as good). Welcoming the coach with flares, flags and banners before the game and intimidating the opposition all this is part of the atmosphere, I don't think any other team does this (well Madrid does but without the flares). So the verdict, could anfield be better? No doubt. But when the big boys come to town nothing compares to it.
A fun story now, I was sitting next to an old couple,, (actually not that old but anyway) (Deffo locals) for the villarreal game, two mates were just behind me. When we scored the first one I went mental and jumped on the woman's back,screaming like a madman etc typical me while one mate literally fell on top of me lol I didn't even realise it at the time, when everyone 'calmed down' (riiiight) she gave me a bollocking, I apologised but she decided it was better to have a chat with a stewart (some of them are right c*nts), in the end they changed seats with two lads from the front row I think, and everyone enjoyed the game.
why the **** do these people even bother going to games? Really pisses me off. lol rant over.
As for mourinho you can't be serious, mourinho can get the best out of mediocre players? More like he can get the best out of quality players who have 1 or 2 good years left in them. That's what he did with Inter. That's what did with Chelsea, both times. Madrid is entirely different because they're a bunch of stars and mourinho with his ego would never succeed there. Ancelotti was perfect for them imo,and he will be very good for bayern.
As @Fena14 said, we shall see in a couple of years if United was right to appoint Jose.
No, I think Klopp is awesome, it's just that I wanted to remind you of this little stat.
Though I don't think Anfield is the best ground, this novel you have just written now must be directed towards someone else, since I didn't criticize your atmosphere.
If he wins a title, appointing him was the right decision.
Sorry mate I know it wasnt you I just couldn't quote the poster because it was on a different page. I think for some reason I can't tag people anymore lol
For me top4 plus a cup would be a brilliant season for next year. I don't expect miracles, and as I've said many times before we shouldn't be quick to judge, I Hate all the negativity after a few bad results.
Oh and good luck to Brendan and Celtic, he's better then them imo but it's his boyhood club so I understand wanting to go there even for 12 months. I'll never forget that season, those who don't give him credit and say "it was all Luis suarez" can **** off especially if they're from our fanbase, bunch of pricks.
I feel sick of football since last Wednesday, but it's always nice having a football chat lol
You can save a draft and quote from several pages or copy-paste all of the quotes one by one. Don't know about your tagging problem though.
Similar feeling here, though I would really love if they summon a title challenge in the Europa League. Then a Premier League title challenge in 2017-18...
Can't wait for Celtic to show great character.
Really? TTW never fails to surprise, cheers!
Oh come on now,Europa League seriously? Who cares about these micky mouse tournaments? leave it to the likes of dnipro
the character joke was a funny one when it started if I'm honest but now it's getting boring a bit like Lvg and philosophy okay we got it celtic btw are a huge club not as big as us obviously but still they have a massive fanbase all over the world. Its a shame that the Scottish league is one of the most boring in Europe, hopefully rangers can change that, I mean challenge celtic a bit not win it!
Sheffield Wednesday hull for the championship playoff final and atletico Madrid real Madrid CL final I bet the former will be more entertaining. I fancy Atletico to get their revenge would be sweet.
Surprised you figured out spoilers but not drafts.
Well, that is another way to enter the Champions League if necessary. You would have been there if you won you know... Plus it is the only missing trophy in the cabinet.
I could picture Atletico defending a 1-0 lead with all 11 men while Simeone is raging on the touchline and destroying everything in his path. Hope they will mark Ramos better this time.
lol sometimes I put spoilers instead of quotes it's a bit confusing at the start.
I know but it's okay, maybe it would be a blessing in disguise not having European distractions, maybe it'll help us challenge for the title who knows
That ramos header must have been so heartbreaking for the Atletico fans i can't even imagine. Ive never been fan of Simeones football but he's a wonderful manager, love his passion. My feeling is they'll win it.
At the end of the day, my predictions are always spot on,no?
I would love Atletico to win because they were so close 2 years ago. Then they have been the obvious underdog for a while with the toughest path (Barca, Bayern and now Real, can't get any tougher).
Plus imagine if Real don't win:
2016/17 trophies: Man United 1 Real 0
2016/17 cup finals: Liverpool 2 Real 1
Not to mention they won 1 league in the last 8 years, just like Leicester.
haha yeah that sounds funny, especially the bit about the league titles, seeing as the Spanish league has only like 3 real contenders.
I don't think we have any Madrid fans here though and I don't have any mate who supports them so no chance for a bit of banter sadly
Man I hope Mourinho will be less controversial in Manchester. Probably asking too much, but one can dream, no?
It's better this way than the possibility of having some Madridiot here.
Sporting Gijon winning La Liga is more likely to happen than what you want to happen.
LOL you're in a different mood today.
Maybe Sir Bobby calms him down here.
Sir Bobby needs to know his role and shut his mouth.
Does anyone know how does Messi wins every 40-60 battle on the ground?
He hasn't talked much recently. His comments on Mou happened a long time ago.
Where is your evidence he isn't good with mediocre players? The last time he managed them was at Porto when he won the European Cup, the only time in the modern European cup era that has been achieved with so little resources. An outstanding management achievement. Hopefully Atletico change that and join them on Saturday night.
But it was at União de Leiria where Mourinho first made his name, the small Portuguese club he had challenging for the title. He took the Porto job mid season so we will never know if he could have pulled off a miracle and went all the way. But his work there was very, very impressive.
My concerns on Mourinho are more to do with whether or not his is past his peak, his brand of football is no longer the dominant one at the top of the game like it was 2004-10. (Same with Benitez) Both past thier best due to evolution of the game arguably. But we will see.
Other concerns I have are to do with giving him (and Mendes) a free reign on the transfer pot and feeling their dealings might not be motivated purely by what is best for the club but themselves.
Jose was just bluffing/biding his time on his return to Chelsea anyway. He never wanted to be there second time.
All the kissing of Fergie's ring seemed for nothing. Until now.
And you're basing this on ONE great year he had with Porto (he was a bit lucky too but anyway), 12 years ago?? I've never heard of that other Portuguese team you mentioned and I don't watch their league (I bet you don't either) so I'm not going to pretend I watched him there, but again 6 months? Please.
Simeone is playing pretty much the same brand of football with atletico, maybe with a bit more pressing, so I wouldn't worry about his style of play being old fashioned.
I mentioned liverpool United before, well Chelsea United will be very interesting as well, I wonder how will the fans at Stamford Bridge react, imagine United scoring a last minute equaliser and Maureen celebrating in front of the fans, I can definitely see that happening and it womt go down well. And rightly so.
Rodgers: 'Celtic is one of the biggest clubs in the world'
First rule of addressing a crowd: Always start with a joke, to get the audience on side.
Say that to King Kenny and see where it gets ya
Seriously now, Celtic are a very big club, although I agree that "one of the biggest" is a slight exaggeration.
Welcome, Karius. I know **** all about him but I've heard very good things. Hopefully a good enough challenge for Simon.
No official announcement has arrived yet. Man, the waiting is killing me, this champagne wants to open itself.
An honest United fan
I bet he's not the only one
I must follow Moe.
I'm sure there are some anti Jose remarks I've made in the past. Maybe even part of an anti Jose fan club back in 2005. I have evolved.
At least you'll have something to quote when it ends in tears
With Mourinho it's almost a rule. You'll hate him unless he is your favorite club's manager.
As for the tears part, I think he made Scousers cry recently with that beautiful football and that classy celebration at Anfield.
He's still not over the 05 and 07 semi finals at Anfield. That's why he hates us more then any other club. The t*at. Needless to say the feelings are mutual.
I will remain optimistic and believe tears of joy are coming for the more emotional fan.
But of course, Mourinho track record says we are heading straight to Loftus Road for some Championship and league one encounters with QPR.
He still caused bigger damage.
These feelings will probably be even stronger with him coaching your greatest rival.
You better hope his poor record against Pep doesn't continue. Van Gaal actually dealt with City very well. Also with Liverpool and partially Arsenal...
Even Pep's good records have to end one day.
A few years ago I was loudly cheering for Guardiola when they clashed in Spain. How times change quickly...
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