Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.
Dortmund helping Mou realize the magnitude of the task at hand.
Sunderland are ready to feel the Moyes.
Gonzalo Higuain is reportedly having a medical at Juventus.
Apart from the transfer fee of course, this is similar to the Lewandowski move from BVB to Bayern. League champion is taking the best player of the league runner-up who also finished the season as the best goalscorer.
Considering how much Napoli demanded for Higuain, this probably means that the Pogba transfer to Manchester United will happen soon.
Manchester United have unveiled their home kit for 2016-17 season.
At least Allegri confirmed there are negotiations.
Yikes looks like they ran out of material half way through and sent the work experience kid to pick up some more.. Evidently he bought back a different colour also appears he ran over the middle of it with his moped on his return.. That tire mark down the middle? Bizarre.
I really liked last years kit, the whole '90 throwback was nicely done. This years though? Suppose at least they're getting huge sums of money from Adidas.
I wonder what were your thoughts on our 2012-13 kit... You know, the famous tablecloth.
That was a bad one! Haha. They've had some really nice ones over the years though. Last years was great, so was the early 90's one it was modelled on. I liked the 99 treble winning one with the zip, same for the one they wore when they stopped Chelsea winning 3 in a row (had a little bit of gold, I do believe!).
You can see why the trend towards retro replicas from the '90s and earlier is growing, modern kits aren't as good as they used to be.
I've been trying to get a mid 90's Chelsea shirt (think Di Matteo in the '97 FA Cup final), but they're going for £100+! I've still got a few from back in the day, unfortunately I've grown a bit since I was 8 though
Fantasy league on premierleague.com is up, can start to get your teams in.
I hope all the Chelsea players are a quid this season, after their performance last time out.
Borussia Dortmund have also signed Andre Schürrle from Wolfsburg a few days ago.
That's going to be a deadly attack in the upcoming season. Aubameyang, Reus, Götze and Schürrle... Watch out.
France win the Euro U19 tournament by beating Italy 4-0 in the final. Excellent display, good future is ahead of Les Bleus.
Barcelona seem to be close to signing Kevin Gameiro from Sevilla and are also linked with Van Persie and Gomez. How did the club policy change so quickly...
All started with putting sponsors on your shirt.
There was a La Liga match in 2012-13 where all 11 players on the pitch were from La Masia. 10 Spaniards and a certain Argentine. Soon everyone in the starting 11 will be foreign.
How are your youngsters doing? The Barcelona prospects. I'm only really familiar with Sergi Samper. Has La Masia lost its way?
It has obviously been better before. Apart from Sergi Samper, there are also some other promising players like Oriol Busquets, Carles Alena and Seung-Woo. We also had Halilovic, "The Croatian Messi", but after being on loan in Gijon, he was sold to Hamburg a few days ago. There still are good players, but I fear they won't be getting much chances in the first team in the future which will obviously make them seek playing time elsewhere.
I have watched a bit of UEFA Youth League (junior version of the Champions League) and in the last two seasons we lost relatively early in the knockout stages, both times to Anderlecht. Chelsea though won the last two editions, they are having a really good school recently.
Higuain to Juventus for 80m is mental. He's a decent striker don't get me wrong, but 80 million?!?!?! Jeeez.
Pogba vs Milner
Yeah I remember Milan, good lad but didn't worked out for him here, a bit like Riera really.
Oops, forgot to add.
Mourinho working his magic again I see
Dortmund fans must be fuming.
Must be some terrible weather in Manchester to cancel the City/United feud today.
I don't like comparing stats from different leagues, but it sure is crazy paying 120 million for any player. Maybe you should start mocking when the transfer happens, nothing is official yet. And don't you criticize The Dab!
Now that you mentioned Higuain, I thought of a comparison. Higuain 38 goals and 3 assists - cost 80 million, Ibra 50 goals and 13 assists - cost free.
Don't know if he is in charge of the numbers, but that wasn't nice from the club. Rumors obviously started that Martial wants to leave because of that, the media really are desperate for some stories.
It was supposed to be played in Beijing, not Manchester.
This was their response to the rumors back in April.
"Milan or Madrid - Just not Dortmund! P1ss off Götze!"
This is a good test to see if they are consistent or not.
Agreed. And lol, that dab thing is weird, especially as a celebration. Then again, Sturridges dance is weird too but at least it pisses the bitters off so I'll take it
Lol good one. Although I suspect Ibras wages are massive, Rooney esque probably.
Yeah United/Mourinho should have handled it better, but these martial stories are obviously bollocks.
haha brilliant banners. I know how they feel, should be interesting.
4 year contract and he cost around 22 million. They sold him for a bit less than 40 million three years ago so it's good business.
Those fans who threw the jersey away are probably now trying to recover it.
He has many more dancing celebrations. And I will pretty much always prefer them (including Sturridge) over the arrogant a$$h0le ones or the ones shushing the crowd.
The club has enough money for everything, but some of the wages are just too high IMO. Schweinsteiger is in their category as well and he has spent more in the hospital than on the pitch.
Oh well, I guess it's better that it ends up in players' pockets than in the ones of Glazers.
He will always have the World Cup final goal card to play though.
I disagree. Some things are more important then money. I was at Gerrard's friendly a couple seasons ago and although I didn't boo Torres I couldn't "support" him either. Would never take him back at Liverpool, no matter what. And to be honest it was wonderful watching him flop at Chelsea. I bet the vast majority of the Dortmund fans feel/felt the same about Gotze. Don't know the full story behind his transfer to bayern and all that but my guess is he should start firing on all cylinders from the get go if he wants to get (some of) the fans off his back.
Dunno I'm not a big fan of all these dance celebrations, they look so fake and passionless. I love the shhh when it comes from a Liverpool player, my all time favourites are the Fowler one against Everton in 1999? I think and Gerrard kissing the old Trafford cameras and reminding the mancs who are the greatest club in the land!
Guys like Totti, Iniesta and players who already left Europe (Xavi and Gerrard) are the only remaining true club legends and we will rarely ever see these types of players in the future IMO because unfortunately, money does the talking nowadays. Players have turned into merchandise. Some leave for more money, some go for more trophies, but surely there are some transfers that happen against the player's will. That's why I don't care much about the transfer (to a domestic or European rival) itself but rather look at how former players behave towards their former club after. For that reason I lost a lot of respect for Tevez after his goal celebration in the Carling Cup and him holding the RIP Fergie banner for which he openly refused to apologize while at the same time I still like and admire Ronaldo a lot.
I am a bit confused with Gotze's situation. Bayern triggered the release clause that he had in his Dortmund contract and he had to go. I don't remember him saying anything bad about BVB though I don't follow interviews that much. On his return to the Signal Iduna Park he scored and didn't celebrate. They are still hostile towards him. Also when Hummels was about to leave, in one of the last home games of recently finished season the fans had a banner The captain is abandoning the ship and booed him a bit. With Lewandowski though, they are totally fine. He tried to move to Bayern in summer of 2013 and complained how the club are forcing him to stay (which is ridiculous, he signed a contract until a certain period and he has nothing to moan about). When he became a free agent one season later, he signed for Bayern ("he wants a new challenge" lol) despite as a world class striker certainly having more options. Still they organized a nice farewell for him in his last home game for Dortmund and didn't boo him. Maybe it's because he is Polish (foreign) and the fans look at him as a traveler who is just doing his job while they expect more from their German boys...
Don't know about my all time favorite (never payed much attention to celebrations in football as much as in tennis) but I really liked the reaction to Van Persie's late winner against City away a few years ago. When looking at the celebrations alone you wouldn't be able to tell who scored. Players and fans celebrated together a big derby win. All that mattered was the club winning what already felt a bit like a title decider, it wasn't important who exactly scored, which I really liked.
Didn't Fowler get a fine and suspension for that celebration?
Sexy Dimitar's day, I couldn't forget Gerrard's contribution even if I wanted to. Pity Stevie got stuck with kissing the cameras while the Mancs overtook his club in league titles and kissed them instead.
Edit: My bad I was thinking about his camera kiss in 2010-11. The spoiler is from 2013-14, right?
I forgot a bit about that Fowler case. Did Everton fans start a fire somewhere with an insult?
What is the code for the league?
Actually getting a better manager I think. This whole thing has worked out quite well for them, still think Moyes is a good manager, Man Utd was just too big a job for him. Just like England is too big a job for Allardyce. Moyes got Everton into the Champions League (albeit failing abysmally when there), best Allardyce has done is getting Bolton the Europa league. Unbelievably over-rated for by the media this guy. Remember when peopl]e were saying what a mistake it was for West Ham to sack him. Didn't seem to work out too badly for them did it.
Guess I won't be coming back to supporting England any time soon. To be honest their main candidates of Allardyce, Steve Bruce, Klinnsman and Howe were a pretty poor selection highly doubt that's the best available for one of the best paid jobs in International football with a young talented bunch of players available. Come off it.
Santos have confirmed they accepted Juventus' 20 million Euros bid for a 19 year old attacker Gabriel Barbosa.
Should Higuain deal happen as well, that's going to be 6 signings for Juventus (Benatia, Dani Alves, Pjanic, Pjaca, Higuain, Barbosa). They are building a very strong squad to challenge the rest of Europe again.
Meanwhile, the record breaking Pogba transfer to Manchester United still hasn't happened yet...
Juventus have signed Gonzalo Higuain for 90 million Euros, making it the 3rd most expensive transfer in history, only behind Cristiano Ronaldo and Gareth Bale to Real Madrid from Manchester United and Tottenham respectively.
Many are expecting Paul Pogba to push them all down by one spot, but it seems there is a little problem with who will pay his agent, who wants 20 million for himself.
I guess that makes Pogba official then. You better deliver.
Looks like that fat boy Raiola doesn't have enough money to swim in yet.
Nacho Novo joins Glentoran.
Paddy McCourt at Glenavon and Roy Carroll and Sammy Clingan playing for Linfield. Irish League is where its at in 2016/17!
You should let me wet my beak a little. These agents take it too far.
Gong crazy around here talking about ''hero, legend'' Nacho Novo.
Loving those signings. Serie A is going to be a walk in the park for them though. Hopefully the lack of competition domestically doesn't hinder them in Europe.
2011-12 champion - Juventus, zero losses, 4 point lead over 2nd placed Milan
2012-13 champion - Juventus, 9 point lead over Napoli
2013-14 champion - Juventus, record 102 points and all 19 home wins, 17 point lead over Roma
2014-15 champion - Juventus, when they had a bit more draws, their nearest challenger had 1 win, 8 draws and 1 loss, again 17 point lead over Roma
2015-16 champion - Juventus, after a slow start won 15 in a row, a draw and then another 10 in a row, 9 point lead over Napoli
Coppa Italia: won the last two, first Italian team to win back to back domestic doubles.
What was Serie A for them until now then?
Mane snubbed Man Utd for Liverpool
Cheers for the write up. Didn't know all that as I don't follow German football very closely. To the point, I agree that one club legends like Gerrard and Totti are very rare to find nowadays, and don't get me wrong I don't expect every one of our best players to stay forever, obviously. But what I can't accept is selling them to our biggest rivals. I suspect the Bayern-Dortmund rivalry is a bit like the Liverpool - United one, eh? Maybe not as fierce but still. It's impossible for me to imagine a player leaving Liverpool for Man United or Everton AND then coming back, no matter how good he is, what he did there, if he celebrated against us etc etc. That's why I I said that I think the dortmund fans won't be very happy with his transfer.
But you've got a point, you can't find one club men anymore, and obviously if someone wants to leave, fine move him on, but the first option should always be selling him abroad, I was devastated when suarez left but at least he went to Barcelona, and he's shown he's got huge respect for Liverpool. Compare this with the Torres transfer or even worse the Sterling one (although Sterling is dogshite, 50m was daylight robbery lol) and you clearly see the difference.
Remember Adebayors celebration against Arsenal? lol. It was hilarious watching him going mental on the telly, can't possibly imagine how these arsenal fans felt in the away end.
Yes, he was handed a 3/4 match ban and had to pay a fine.
No, you're right that pic is from October 2010, he had just scored his second goal in 10 mins to make it 2-2, immediately run off to the corner with the Liverpool fans, kissed the cam after a classic knee slide and then did that 5 times salute
He hasonly kissed the cam three times. March 2009 (1-4), the one I mentioned above and most recently the 0-3 win in THAT season. Same opponent, same end, same cameraman. Yep, a Stevie G classic
RE: that trophies reference . Well he HAS kissed the big one, inspired the arguably greatest comeback in European cups, so everything else is a bonus really.
Cant remember any fire incidents. They used to give him stick naturally even when he was at Blackburn, and accused him of drug abuse that's why celebrated like that. Reminds me a bit of the Suarez dive in front of Moyes, that's another classic lol.
Again, pity all those kisses weren't crowned with something else.
And it's not like some of our current players haven't kissed the big one, if anything our trophy is more recent.
Now I don't remember how the Torres transfer happened, except that it was in January and for a lot of money. Did he request a transfer?
Can't say I felt sorry for him failing (I actually tolerate Chelsea less than Liverpool ) and it was hilarious seeing him miss some sitters. Especially the one against us and the fanzone reaction still brings a smile to my face.
Bayern-Dortmund is Der Klassiker, nowadays the biggest fixture in German football since they are the most successful recently. But I never thought the rivalry is similar to Liverpool-Man United or Real-Barcelona. I don't think German fans have that kind of hatred or whatever you want to call it. If there is any German rivalry that is similar to the ones I mentioned, it is the Revierderby (Dortmund-Schalke). It's not a city rivalry, but a regional rivalry as both clubs are in the Ruhr region. That is the only one I remember in the Bundesliga where things can get messy sometimes.
He was suck a pr1ck in that one.
Oh well, football is not just about trophies is it. It's about memories and oh boy has Stevie G gave us plenty of those to remember.
Btw, Traore 1 Cantona 0
He handed a transfer request a couple of days before the end of the January window, right after we rejected Chelsea's original offer. We had just bought Suarez, had Kenny in charge and new owners but he was desperate to leave... We finally accepted Chelsea's 50m bid in the last day of the window. Absolutely heartbreaking. I thought he had a special relationship with the fans, that he understande what Liverpool is all about so going to Chelsea of all places was a dagger in the heart. A few weeks later makes his debut against us, gets punched in the face by Agger, 0-1 win. Payback. First of many.
That miss has got to be one of the worst ever. Beautiful, although I wish it were against some other team!
True, Stevie G is a legend.
LOL you love that comparison don't you.
That stinks if he handed a transfer request. I really thought he would become a Liverpool legend. He lost it since the transfer to Chelsea, I haven't seen a striker drop his form over night without suffering a big injury like Torres did.
The rumors are that Real contacted Juventus in attempt to take Pogba. Di Marzio though, which I think has been usually a reliable source, says his return to Manchester will be finalized in the next 2 days.
This is turning into a soap opera now...
Loyal diehard Stevie G, the most loyal man alive, is ready to go to Chelsea, but that's none of my business.
I'm just messing because he stayed at the end of the day. That is all that matters really.
Explain to me again, how exactly is it Traore 1 Cantona 0? Is this some international cup bollocks? Refresh my memory.
Djimi Traore 1
Eric Cantona 0
It is being finalized right now, according to sky sources.
They don't make stuff up often from what I have remembered over the years. Looks like your boy will finally be back home.
Are those four signings Mourinho was talking about the only four you will get this summer or just priorities?
Yes, sky are usually spot on with their reports. I'm pretty confident it is done now.
I'm not really sure about other signings right now. We continue to be linked with players, but I'm looking at the squad and I can't see where we can strengthen . Maybe another right back, although Mourinho might try and convert Phil Jones so he can compete with Darmian. Can't really see a place for Jones as centre back now. He has played at right back before.
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