Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.
Baily, Shaw and Martial for nearly 122 million looks pretty insane to me, no?
Maybe, but we'll see how they perform overall. Bailly has played only one game, while the other two haven't been flops (like Depay ).
Depay isn't a flop yet. Maybe I can call him a flop later on in the season, but not everybody is destined to be a success right at the beginning. If he does nothing this season and disappears then he can be called a flop.
I just checked on your wikipedia page he was 34 million pounds, only one million short of your most expensive transfer. That's a low number, when are you guys going to catch up to the rest?
Be different if he was coming in during his prime like cold night hater Di Maria.
Well yeah Sky reported 34m as well, I choose to believe the Echo and James Pearce over them. And indeed, our most expensive signing is Carroll and we all know how it worked out, probably one of the worst panic buys of all time, the fact that Torres ****ed off hours before the end of the transfer window deffo contributed to what came after.
I don't care about holding the transfer record and all that nonsense, unike some United fans who were seemingly desperate for the club to break it. In fact, I like us to spend as little as possible in terms of net spend and promote our youth, give them a chance in the first team, whilst being successful on the pitch. That's why I think Klopp is made for Liverpool and why I appreciate our owners, I'd hate to have an Abramovich here as weird as that sounds to some. Leave the stars and the galacticos to the likes of Madrid and Bayern, I want players who want to play for Liverpool, work their socks off for the team and have that special connection with the fans. Call me romantic or whatever but that's what Liverpool is all about, you can buy presidents, big planes, fancy yachts and tons of pies for fat Frank... but you can never buy our history (brilliant banner).
Is it Sunday yet
My message to Paul Pogba.
What did I do to trigger a rant like this?
Only Ramos and Lahm left, 150 million will do the trick, that's not much money, no?
The "when are you guys gonna catch up" bit. Hopefully never. surely as a barca fan you see where I'm coming from? Or is the "more then a club" stuff just a myth?
It's definitely not a myth. I was joking around a bit because you and maybe Arsenal are now the only big English teams who haven't had mega transfer fees on one player or big summer spending sprees. It's like you are not doing the current "popular thing" nowadays that other English giants do.
The defence and midfield 2 looks a lot better. Not sure about the front 4 though if I'm honest, on paper it looks scary, but it looks a bit like fantasy football to me. Interesting to see how it works in reality though!
Yeah, almost like the 236(I think) formation that Jeff Stelling is planning to use for his fantasy football team this year. Crazy mind bender.
I've liked Ramos for a long time, but he lost cool points because of what happened last season when we were linked with him.
I want to see Darmian make the rb position his own. Of course, we will have to see what Jose thinks of him.
Haha it does a bit! Mkhitaryian out wide seems strange, especially with Martial on the other side. That's not a lot of width in the wide positions, especially as Jose is known for not liking his full backs getting too far forward.
Guessing he's hoping they'll be tight at the back and one of the front 4 will produce a moment of magic to win games.
Going to be hopefully the last season where United start their matches 10 vs 11 (Rooney being the obvious handicap).
A bit outside of the Premier League stuff now...
Blond Messi had a great game against Sampdoria. Two goals and one assist in a 3-2 win that won Barcelona a Joan Gamper Cup.
Sevilla away are the next opponent on Sunday. It's time for the Spanish Super Cup.
Totally agree, whenever I've seen Mkhitaryan in the hole/number 10.. He's been incredible. He scores goals for fun and creates a lot of chances. Sticking him out wide is a huge waste.
Put him where Rooney is and find a winger from somewhere would improve that potential lineup massively imo.
He is a winger too. It's not Mata we are talking about, Mkhi isn't wasted that way if he is put on the sides.
Depay and Lingard weren't included in that potential line-up, one of them can play on the wing if Mkhi is put in the middle instead of Wazza.
The prodigal son returns with a one-game slap...now, win that league with The One or bust!
Pity he was clumsy in the last Coppa Italia matches, but since he only had one training since the Euro final, I don't think he would have made his debut against Bournemouth even if he was available.
Meanwhile, ChelseaFansChannel made a video during the Community Shield. Some lady was asking random Man United fans to spell Ibrahimovic (and Mkhitaryan). None of them managed it, not even the ones who already bought his jersey. Some little kid who supports Leicester managed to do it however.
Shame on you guys!
haha I still have trouble with Mkhitaryan and sometimes spell it as Mkhitarian.
Almost there. Soccer Saturday, etc. Good times.
I don't think he's good out wide, just another player. Teams have always been happy to see him drift wide to get the ball, he can't cause much damage out there. Him out wide and Rooney in the middle is weakening two positions imo.
Mkhitaryan behind Zlatan and Lingard out wide? (or Depay as you mention, fingers crossed he gets it together this year). Now that's something I wouldn't want to play against personally!
Liverpool Man United scheduled for a Monday night, quite surprised that Merseyside police have agreed to that, they almost always schedule it on Saturday/Sunday afternoon for obvious reasons.
Great news for me, last seasons European game on Thursday night was one of the best in terms of atmosphere. Absolutely love the big games under the lights.
Dont miss Match of the Day tomorrow night. Gary Lineker special.
That is must watch TV, Gary in his knickers.
I still miss Alan Hansen. All these over informed pundits can put my head away, except for Gary and Jamie.
Great news, Leo Messi has returned to Argentinian national team. National glory still possible.
Hull City and Leicester City kick-off the 2016-17 Premier League season.
Good luck to your teams.
They are paying because they are only going to get better. All three of them are young, fast, strong and good in their positions.
Januzaj on loan! I want him to boss at Sunderland and leave Utd for one of the Spannish giants. Could see him fitting in perfectly at Barcelona in a few years. Utd have basically told him to come back when you get better. He should abandon them. He's clearly talented, LVG was just a complete fool and ruined a lot of players.
Recently promoted Hull City and probably the main contender for relegation defeated champions of England Leicester City 2-1 in season's opener. EPL unpredictability on display immediately on the first match.
Runners-up Tottenham held at Goodsion Park.
Ex-Red Devil McNair scored a late own goal on his Sunderland debut to gift Pep an unconvincing debut win with City.
Weren't Arsenal runners-up last season?
City sneaking the win is a bad sign. Hopefully we can blow Bournemouth away. I'm expecting a tight match.
Yes. One point between them.
Spurs really should have beaten Everton, that new signing Jansen missed a couple of sitters in the second half. Hull Leicester was a pretty dire match, but obviously fantastic win for Hull. Man City were below average tbh, still early days though. McNair is an absolute knob, ****ing useless lol.
Yeah, Spurs bottled the final games and managed to finish below them again lol. Especially that Newcastle match on the final day, got thrashed was 5-1 I think.
Yes, my bad. I went by Spurs being the closest chaser to Leicester and totally forgot they had a meltdown in the last several games.
Just checked, they drew against WBA and Chelsea and lost to Southampton and Newcastle. It was comedy seeing them finish below Arsenal again.
Even after being sold, McNair is giving us problems by gifting rivals the points...
I hope those players who leave will move abroad or all go to Sunderland. That way our former employees can gift City the points at most two times per season.
Knickers on or GTFO.
Match of the day on soon.
lolz He did it.
I've seen enough. Put a shirt on.
Joe Hart dumped because he can't play sweeper.
Drops a keeper because he can't play centre back and plays his fullbacks as central midfielders..
Feels like I've left Football Manager on the laptop and my 3 year old has run amok.
United win 3-1.
Mata capitalized on the defensive mistake, nice to know he isn't going anywhere. Rooney unimpressive but his header puts him now only 3 goals behind Charlton. Ibra gets his second goal in as many games. Bailly solid again as well.
Overall, nice first game.
Good games coming up today. Arsenal-Liverpool, Dortmund-Bayern and Sevilla-Barcelona.
Two signings that were given time to impress (Bailly and Ibrahimovic) have made a good start. Mkhi needs to start and play more. Can't wait to see Pogba on Friday.
Reports are saying City have agreed personal terms with Claudio Bravo. I don't like the idea of selling our regular La Liga goalkeeper at all. It will leave us with only Ter Stegen and Matip.
I hope Ter Stegen won't concede a goal from the halfway line tonight like he did in the previous Super Cup...
Arsenal and Liverpool deliver a great match once again. Beautiful goal from Coutinho and Mane as well as Oxlade-Chamberlain.
@TheMuzziah did you enjoy that one?
Can't wait to see United against some real opposition and not a Mugfield smoking 70s dope.
I bet @TheMuzziah is going crazy. hahahah
I see myself and Emperor have the same idea.
All jokes aside, I probably would have been happy with a 1-0. Vital to not lose points against teams you should be beating, especially at this early stage. Away from home first game. Good stuff.
Joe has been found out. Finally.
****ing buzzing lads... What a day,,,what a ****ing day wow... Last 15 minutes massive heart palpitation, classic Liverpool that,, hopefully we improve the defence coz my nerves won't take another season full of games like this...lol
Voice is gone but still absolutely great to be back!!!!!!!
Zlatan's goal was so Pro Evo Soccer golden era.
Rooney looked at 4/10 although there were some nice touches between him and Ibra.
You really sold on the story about Mata being assured of his future at the club? The past proves that whenever someone receives such reassurances - be it player or coach - they are usually sent packing.
A shame but I also never warmed to him. He's too nice.
I am. He is in the manager's plans and has done a good job in this short period that's pre-season and two competitive games. Unless Mou is desperate for another big signing in these two weeks, and even then it's not sure, I don't see Mata leaving now.
Schweinsteiger is the one that is certain to leave.
He should never have arrived.
Absolutely ****ing sweet, not to mention Murray winning in an absolutely cracking final in the Olympics bronze medal match wasn't bad either, good to see the 100m too, pretty damn good day of sport on the whole. You go to the game then did you? Must've been good.
Well he does tend to make it work. So power too him. Certainly reinvented 5 ft 7 Mascherano as a pretty damn good centre back. Think that was him who started that off wasn't it? They looked pretty **** but I've no doubt they'll improve. See no reason to change my mind about them winning the league this season.
Was kind of a cop out. Was just a pair of shorts not underwear. Was quite funny seeing him do the analysis like that for a bit but he said 'I'll present match of the day in my undies', not 'I'll present 2 segments of match of the day, in shorts.' Not the same.
Wonder if anyone here is with me when I say Arsenal don't need a striker. Always go on about it but really I don't think it is that important. They have goals all over the pitch and Giroud is pretty underrated in my view. Gets basically a goal every two games and his link up play is superb, perfect for their style. To be honest I think basically all the pieces to win the league are there. Have a very good side and a good squad. Think Sanchez is a fantastic player, one of the very best players in the league, think it's mostly down to their mentality. They've got goals, they've got a decent defence, very good keeper, great midfield.
Think Wenger has to be responsible, what a chance last year was to win the league and they couldn't come close, just choked as usual. As great a manager as Wenger is and I do think Wenger is an excellent manager, just think it's gone stale. Guess this may be his last season as his contract's into it's last year.
Anyone agree? Don't think I've seen any Arsenal fans on these boards, I don't think it would hurt to sign a striker but I wouldn't see it making much difference, or that important, it wouldn't mean the difference between winning the title and not, even if it got them in position for the title which I don't think it would, they'd choke as ever because that's what they do now.
Yeah Murray winning the gold was the icing on the cake really. I wish I did mate, don't do as many aways as I used to in the past, haven't got the time anymore, pretty much relying on spares these days for the away tickets. Thinking for Palace next away if I'm lucky. I've got all the home games sorted (until New Years) though, so Leicester will be my official debut!
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