Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.
Still trying to figure out how Suarez wasn't even in the top 3...
Congratulations Ronny boy.
CL group C is insane. Leicester isn't playing very good football yet so hopefully their form will improve by the time their matches start in that softer group.
Yep that was odd. I think that Euro results boosted all the three candidates, plus they all played a Champions League final.
Pity he wasn't available for Uruguay in the Copa America this year. He only has himself to blame for the biting incident though.
Meanwhile, Zlatan is looking to become only the 2nd player in Manchester United history to score a goal in each of his first four games. Only Jimmy Hanson achieved that, in 1925. To tie that record he'll need to score against Hull assuming he plays tomorrow.
Europa League draw today. Man United who are in pot 1 can't draw Schalke, Zenit St Petersburg, Shakhtar Donetsk, Athletic Bilbao, Olympiakos, Villarreal, Ajax, Inter, Fiorentina, Anderlecht and Viktoria Plzen in their group.
1st time in history I am looking forward to the EL?
UEFA have announced that the top 4 leagues, which are currently La Liga, Premier League, Bundesliga and Serie A, will have guaranteed 4 spots in the Champions League spots from 2018-19 season. 4th placed teams will not have to go through qualifications. Leagues that are ranked 5th and 6th will have two automatic CL spots while the 3rd placed teams will have to go through qualifications. UEFA are also planning to increase financial distribution both in the Champions League and the Europa League.
Nice draw for Manchester United. Not so nice for Southampton!
Hapoel Be'er Sheva
PS: Luhansk is in Eastern Ukraine so I am counting on this being played somewhere else.
So RvP is coming back to visit Old Trafford.
Hopefully some youngsters will get a chance to play.
Was hoping Dundallk would get United. Would have been cool to go see United play in Dublin. Sell out 50,000 in no time. Dundalk's normal stadium holds 3000.
And we have the Europa League draw completed.
Group A: Manchester United, Fenerbahce, Feyenoord, Zorya Luhansk
Group B: Olympiakos, APOEL, Young Boys, Astana
Group C: Anderlecht, Saint-Etienne, Mainz 05, Gabala
Group D: Zenit St Petersburg, AZ Alkmaar, Maccabi Tel Aviv, Dundalk
Group E: Viktoria Plzen, Roma, Austria Wien, Astra Giurgiu
Group F: Athletic Bilbao, Genk, Rapid Wien, Sassuolo
Group G: Ajax, Standard Liege, Celta Vigo, Panathinaikos
Group H: Shakhtar Donetsk, Braga, Gent, Konyaspor
Group I: Schalke 04, Red Bull Salzburg, Krasnodar, Nice
Group J: Fiorentina, PAOK, Slovan Liberec, Qarabag
Group K: Internazionale, Sparta Prague, Southampton, Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Group L: Villarreal, Steaua Bucuresti, Zürich, Osmanlispor
Eight 3rd placed teams from the CL groups will be joining the top two teams from these groups in the knockout stages. The main question is will Sevilla be one of them.
Man United got some ok opponents that might warm them up and test them nicely.
Think that ban had finished, believe he was just injured. So not to blame this time.
Mourinho would make himself look like a complete hypocrite if he did anything other than play the reserves considering the way he's spoken about it before and I do doubt he's going to take it very seriously.
Can't believe you still can't bet on Sevilla to win the Europa League. Just won't be able to resist coming third and going and winning it. Quite a thirdable group as well I think if they don't do great, plus the allure of the Europa League will probably be too great. Maybe next time they'll request not to have the Champions League place so they can keep winning their pet competition. Don't want to risk qualifying. Wish they'd done this last time, just gave the Champs League place to the last one. Ah well.
Either way it'll probably be won by someone coming third in their Champions League group, does seem to happen more often than not these days.
Well if he wants United to challenge for the title he really should mix things up in the Thursday Europa League matches, his stars will need to be fresh.
Though I am happy with them doing so well in the previous 3 seasons, Sevilla's run has to end at some point. They were also well pushed at least once in all of those seasons. In 2013-14 they needed a penalty shootout to beat Betis, one of the biggest injury time away goals ever in the competition to knock out Valencia and another penalty shootout to beat Benfica in the final. Think Juve would have defeated them easily especially considering that final was at their ground. In 2014-15 they had a tough one against Zenit, in 2015-16 they needed penalties at home to beat Bilbao. It's not total domination of the opposition and next time someone pushes them hard, and there are some quality teams in this Europa League, I think they won't manage to come through yet again. We'll see.
Yes you are right. He missed 2015 Copa through suspension, but 2016 absence was because he got injured in the last game of Barca's 2015-16 season, the cup final.
Last seasons Europa League was much stronger without a doubt, quite a few CL level ties R16 onwards.
Back to being a mickey mouse cup this year I'm afraid!
Crazy start for Ancelotti and Bayern in the Bundesliga. 6-0 win at home over Werder Bremen.
Alonso, Lahm and Ribery scored one goal each, while Lewandowski scored a hat trick. That's the 2nd hat trick already for him this season, he now has 6 goals in 3 games.
I am totally shocked right now. Bundesliga drama at its finest!
Scottish Premier League > Bundesliga
I don't think it is much because of Bremen. Bayern seem direct again like they were with Heynckes 4 years ago. I know it's only been three games, but I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Bayern win the treble.
I wouldn't want that.
Unless they meet Real in the CL final. Then GO BAYERN!!!
Rooting for Southampton to win the Europa League, never have a I seen a team get completely screwed during the summer transfer window, it's happens to them a lot. Even their manager left. Anyone think Southampton can survive in the PL this year???
Here are some of the records that can be achieved this season.
Cristiano Ronaldo (364) can reach the 400 goal mark for Real Madrid in 2016-17.
Manchester United can become the first Premier League club to score 2000 points in the history of the Premier League. They're 42 points off the total.
Paris Saint-Germain could break the 100-point barrier for the first time in 2016-17 having finished on 96 points last season.
Juventus can become the first club in Serie A history to win six consecutive league titles.
Gianluigi Buffon (590) can reach the 600 appearance mark in Serie A. Only Paolo Maldini (647), Javier Zanetti (615), Francesco Totti (601) and Gianluigi Pagliuca (592) have turned out more times than him so far.
Both Lionel Messi (22) and Cristiano Ronaldo (26) could surpass Ryan Giggs' record (30) of assists in the Champions League.
If Manchester United win the Premier League, Zlatan Ibrahimovic will finish top of the league table for the 14th time in 16 years – a total unsurpassed at the top level in recent memory. England would be the fifth country that he's won a league title in after the Netherlands, Italy, Spain and France.
Edinson Cavani (81) could become only the fourth player to reach the 100-goal mark for PSG.
Bayern Munich coach Carlo Ancelotti is bidding to become the first coach to win the Champions League four times.
On October 1, Arsene Wenger will become only the second coach to reach the 20-year coaching milestone in English football since the Premier League era began in 1992.
Lionel Messi (456) could become the first Barcelona player to score 500 goals for the club in competitive matches.
Real Madrid (6) share the record for consecutive Champions League semi-finals with Barcelona but can go outright top if they reach that stage again.
Wayne Rooney (246) is just three goals away from equalling Manchester United's all-time goal record currently held by club legend Sir Bobby Charlton (249).
Francesco Totti (248) can reach the 250-goal mark in Serie A. Only Silvio Piola (274) has scored more times in the Italian top flight.
Philipp Lahm (481) can reach the 500 appearance mark for Bayern Munich.
Cristiano Ronaldo (93) can become the first player to score 100 Champions League/European Cup goals.
Everton midfielder Gareth Barry (597) would surpass Ryan Giggs (632) in the Premier League's all-time appearance ranking if he plays every game this season.
Didn't they finish like 6th or 7th last season? I don't think they can drop that low and get relegated.
My God... Barry?!
That's the Premier League era alone, from 1992. Surely Giggs has league appearances before that.
Phew, of course.
There is only one Giggsy.
Well, Leicester went from relegation battle and 15th spot to being #1 in England in only one year. Everything is possible in the English Premier League.
I nearly spat my food out reading that 'stat'. Barry of all people? Something not right with that.
Giggs has 40 extra league appearances before 1992 so Barry has almost 80 games left to beat him overall.
Let's go Franceso.
Wayne Rooney will have the United goal record soon.
Ronaldo should have 100 in champions league.
Yeah, a lot of records going down.
I hope Mkhitaryan is starting today. Yes, write that Jose hates Mata and wants him to leave, but come on, play Henrikh.
The game is on BT sports and I hope Paul Scholes is there. And I hope he is electrified by the performance.
Milner a left back? Is this some sort of an experiment or are the regular ones injured?
Did he commentate anything about this season's matches so far?
I haven't heard anything from him so far. Always seemed to be like he was more anti LVG. We've only started, but you can see the team playing real football again. Hard to see Paul Scholes being too negative today if we keep this up. haha Don't want to get too ahead of myself, though. Hull could be tricky.
Great save from the Spurs keeper.
He was pretty much anti everything about the club last season. Can't blame him, he is used to seeing something totally different than that. Someone said after we lost one game (think it was to Liverpool in the Europa League) that Scholes showed more passion in those 2-3 minutes that he talked about the club's problems than the players have shown all season on the pitch.
He did call Pogba overpriced recently but other than that, I don't remember anything else. I would love to hear him today too.
The left back just scored.
It's a 1-1 draw between Tottenham and Liverpool. Spurs got their first goal against Liverpool at White Hart Lane since 2012 when Bale scored.
Loved some of the end to end stuff in the end, it could have gone either way, draw a fair result IMO.
Looks like Mane is a bit shy when I am watching him, nothing big from him today.
So that's Liverpool, Arsenal, Leicester and Tottenham all with an average/poor start. Manchester clubs and Chelsea can create a gap of more than three points between those clubs and themselves early in the season.
In majority of other leagues, that gap would already be a big deal.
****ing robbed,,, Lallana was onside and that shirt pull on Matip should have been a penalty, ref had a shocker. Don't think it's a fair result anyway,, absolutely battered them for 70 minutes,,that disallowed goal changed everything. Disappointing coz we were the much better side but overall a draw away to spurs is by no means a bad result.
@Emperor of Belgrade ,, mane was pretty good, yet again one of our best players on the day,bit rash at times though.
No one was particularly bad today I thought, although Coutinho should have done better with his chances in the first half.
So yeh, pretty good performance and whilst we should have won,there are plenty of positives to take forward.
Oh and Rose is a ****ing twat of the highest order.
No change to the United team.
Why is Rose a twat? Because he scored?
From what I have seen, Alli is the guy who is really asking for trouble.
I can't believe twat isn't on the banned list.
Wouldn't say Hull are hanging in there. Ibra looked to make some magic happen and Mata getting free, but not much else.
Should have made that backheel at the end.
Good control of the match overall though. Bailly is ice cold!
I think of Moscow 2008 every time I see heavy rain during a football match.
Got to take those chances...
Any other team and I'd be annoyed. Only Hull are allowed to play ultra defensive IMO due to their circumstances. How can the commentators say Hull deserve a point? They have basically done nothing but camp in their half. They make the Italian teams look like the most offensive teams in the world.
Rashford proving worth to Jose immediately
Oh Marcus you beautyyyyy!
PS: I won't yell sub Rooney off ever again.
No, because he was trying to wind Mane up and get him sent off. Mourinho tactics.
Agreed, forgot to mention Ali, he's up there with Rose bear in mind he's supposed to be a Liverpool fan!
I wanna see Miki-t, rashford, pogba and ibra start matches after this display. Something about Henrik makes me think he could have been a barcelona player.
Rashford totally changed the game.
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