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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Poisoned Slice

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    I didn't see any match of the day last weekend. I've been hearing that a lot, though, because Rooney can pass the ball, let us put him in these different positions just to get him in. Next week the wing back position will suit him because of reasons I can't understand.
     
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    United vs City coming in round 4.
     
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    Another debut goal for Rashford. I'm out of superlatives for this boy.
     
  4. Slice'n'dice

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    Well yeah if you can score against Northampton then you truly are a special player.
     
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    haha Come on. His record is pretty impressive. Not the fact that he scored a goal against Northampton, but the fact he has scored on a lot of his 'debuts'. Of course, you already know this and are just having a laugh.

    To quote Mr. Keegan again. I would love it if Rashford starts on Saturday and Rooney is on the bench. Then Rashford actually scores in that game. In theory, it would be a kick up the ass for Wayne since he always seems to be selected without doing anything. Again, I could be wrong and we just end up switching Wayne to the role he was born to play. Rooney > Xabi Alonso. If it is good enough for Trevor Sinclair then it is good enough for me. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Scored a brace on his Europa League and club debut, a brace against Arsenal on his Premier League debut, a decisive goal against City away on his Manchester derby debut, a goal inside 3 minutes on his England debut, a hat trick on his England U-21 debut, on his EFL Cup debut, while adding another 3 decisive goals for Man United in the Premier League and the FA Cup - all that in 6 months as an 18 year old.

    Yes, a truly special player.
     
  7. Slice'n'dice

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    Yeah it's a very good record. He's obviously a promising player, think people are going a bit overboard with him. But then he is English, and he plays for Man Utd. Those two factors do tend to grease the wheels of the hype train.

    Must be making it quite hard to leave him out I suppose but I wouldn't hold your breathe on Rooney being dropped, wonder if he just hires private detectives to dig up dirt on his managers so he never gets dropped. Mourinho was going on before the season started about Rooney being a forward not a midfielder now he's playing him in midfield just to shoehorn him in. Definitely think taking him out would go a long way toward sorting out Man Utd's problems at the moment. But from a personal point of view, long may he stay in. Shoehorn him in as centre-back.
     
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    Manc Derby up next pretty good draw overall I'd say. They have now got a pretty tough October schedule United, think it's Chelsea then us then City, sink or swim for Maureen. West Ham Chelsea should be good as well, although West ham has been pretty terrible thus far, barely scraped through the mighty Accrington stanley, looks like their fans are pretty disappointed with the new ground (surprise,surprise!!)

    Wha do you think about Liverpool Spurs? Obviously could have been easier but I'm pretty happy with it being at home (should have won at their ground mind) plus they've also got the CL to worry about, lost to Monaco the opening game, league cup should probably be the last of their priorities. hopefully they play a weakened side, though ive got no doubt that we can soundly beat even their best xi the way we're playing at the moment.
     
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    It is MNF against Liverpool (away) on October 17th, followed by Fenerbache (home) on 20th, followed by Chelsea (away) on 23rd, followed by Man City on the 25th (home). Tough.

    Yes, will see where our season is going at the end of those fixtures.

    Still planning on going to the home game against Liverpool. Not stopping believing just yet. :p
     
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    A Promising player but just that, a talent. He's overhyped and over-rated in my opinion. It's a nice record to have but scoring against the likes of Miggy land, Northampton and Norway Under 21s is all well and good but hardly mean tough defences. Credit to him but he hasn't achieved all that much yet, just made a promising start. Got a good future I'm sure but this isn't the new Pele we have here, much as the English media might like to have us believe it.

    Yeah some interesting ties it looks like, as you say West Ham are in a bit of a crisis. Surprised they are struggling that much, Stoke also have surprised me. Don't see either of them struggling ultimately though(as in relegation and what not), too much quality, need to sort things out though, especially Stoke.

    Yeah Spurs should be an interesting one, as you say they may be focused on other things, but I expect they'll play a pretty strong team against us. Think we should come through it though either way. Be nice for Klopp's first trophy to be this competition because it's the next possible one so why not. Be good to play Newcastle in the final, be good to see Rafa doing well (have to say Newcastle are basically my second team with Rafa there) but either way I think we can go pretty strong in all competitions with the no Europe this season and it's looking like Klopp thinks so too.
     
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    More like the next Romario. That will do.
     
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    Can you smell the ABU in the room? :D
     
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    Rooney rested.
     
  14. Trying something else isn't bad at all.

    Pogba and Herrera in midfield, Mata the central attacking midfielder with Rashford and Lingard on the wings... I like that, hopefully they will perform well against the champions. :eek:
     
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    Nice header from Mike.
     
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    Rooney is not getting back on. :p United playing with some vintage pes style at the minute.

    Pogba definitely making an impression on this game.

    To quote Ruud Gullit - ''sexy football''
     
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    Mata and Rashford, too easy.

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  18. Poisoned Slice

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    POGBA!!!!!!!
     
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    Well that was a demolition. Can't remember when was the last time Man United scored four in one match, not to mention one half.

    Nice to see Pogba score his 1st United goal.

     
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    And the goals coming from corners. Not looking good for Rooney. :D I'll stop now.
     
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    Swansea away is an absolute must win now, would take any win.

    Beat them and then who knows........
     
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    After those 16 consecutive league wins, Real Madrid drew two games in a row. 1-1 at home against Villarreal and 2-2 away against Las Palmas. It's now just a one point lead.
     
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    Yeah lets keep it going. Got a nice run of games on paper, in a good position at the moment. Be nice to start getting some clean sheets but so long as we keep blowing teams away I won't be complaining too much.

    Must be zonal marking that's to blame. The classic English pundits logic - Man marking - it's the players, Zonal marking - the system is to blame.

    He does love Rooney though Mourinho, remember when he came back to Chelsea "Rooney or nothing" in terms of who he wanted to sign. Already past it then in my view. Pretty obvious improvement for United though, wonder how stubborn he'll be in his insistence that Rooney is still good. Hopefully very stubborn.
     
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    Speaking of zonal marking. Chelsea attempted (and successfully achieved) the new "zonal marking your own team mate" tactics yesterday, after nearly mastering it against Swansea and Liverpool in the two previous games, they nailed it against Arsenal.

    Sky can save some money and stop sending commentators to Chelsea games from now on, it's so bad it speaks for itself. Just play the Benny Hill theme tune on a loop. It's either that or start showing the games on Comedy Central.

    Even I couldn't help but laugh at how inept they were trying to pass it round at the back, shanking clearances, the trademark Cahill back pass leading to a goal etc..

    I've seen teams/players in football and other sports intentionally throwing games for money play better. It's just comical.
     
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    Think we were unlucky not to keep a clean sheet yesterday, haven't watched the highlights yet but from where i was it looked like Karius had too many bodies in front of him for their goal. Would be nice to grind out some 1 nil wins from time to time, we'll have to anyway if we are to challenge for top2 but at the moment, after the start we've had, I honestly couldn't care less if we go to Swansea and destroy them or get dominated and score a lucky last minute winner. Just win whatever it takes. :p
     
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    Probably could've defended that corner a bit better I think but yeah that was their only chance really. You are probably right about that although I don't remember too many a couple of years ago when we nearly won the league a few at the start of the season I guess but that's it.

    Yeah totally agree mate, a win however it comes. Although another thrashing would be nice of course.
     
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    Francesco Totti scored his 250th goal in Serie A today. He is now 25 goals behind the record holder Silvio Piola.

    Amazingly there is only 1 Serie A title won between them two, which is Roma's 2000-01.
     
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    Wow that is some meltdown West Ham are having early in the season.
     
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    Sunderland must have felt the Moyes after that collapse yesterday.
     
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    Big Sam on the brink of the sack apparently.

    Always been a bit dodgy, (or surrounds himself with dodgy people) The fact there was a sting taking place shows the media know stuff about him, they don't just launch 10 month investigations and set ups on everyone.
     
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    Can but hope I suppose. My feeling is this won't be enough, a tap on the wrists and moving on I expect. Would be glad to see the back of him though, could potentially go back to supporting England.

    That could be true but from what I hear it's part of a much bigger investigation into corruption in football, this is just headline stuff I think.
     
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    Aye there is 10 other managers involved or something. Nigel Pearson one of them.

    Big Sam had that bung scandal as well, but agree what we have seen now is no automatic sacking offence. I wonder if they have any more on him. Or just started the headlines with this as he is the biggest name.
     
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    I think he'll go. If he doesn't get the sack he may fall on his sword.

    Should know one way or the other in the next 24 hours I guess.
     
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    Big Sam liked to play ultimate soccer manager instead of championship manager and it shows.
     
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    He's only just been appointed. I would not be surprised if there was some sort of fudge by the FA because employing him and not knowing his past or having knowledge of it and ignoring the fact his position could be untenable if his past was made public knowledge reflects badly on the FA.

    OTOH I'm unsurprised another manager's ethics are being questioned. It seems bungs and off the record payments are common place as a way to get things done in professional football. Speaking of which Yaya Toure's agent looks dodgy as heck.
     
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    Sam has left. What a **** up.
     
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    My mistake, haha. Best thing that could have happened for England to be honest. Now bite the bullet and hire a good foreign manager and who knows what you could achieve. The best English manager is probably Eddie Howe and it's probably a bit early to give him the job.
     
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    +1....................
     
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    Back to a more important point, does this derail our target of winning the World Cup in 2020?
     
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    Chelsea are crap and Sam has been let go.. 2-0 on my big season predictions so far ;)

    Right decision was made imo, the FA can't be seen to be condoning that rubbish.
     
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    Of course not. It dramatically improves their chances. Whoever comes in next can hardly be any worse. Especially if they see sense and hire a good foreign manager.
     
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    I haven't been following it, I know I could check a website, but I prefer the face to face explanation What is the bottom line? What exactly did Sam do?

    My earlier post about ultimate soccer manager. It was an inferior management game, but you could offer bungs and try to rig matches. I can remember any time I tried it, I got caught. Cheaters never win. :p

    To quote Junior Soprano. '' England are so far behind in the race that they actually believe they are winning.''
     
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    Apart from the money the England manager's job doesn't look good compared to managing other national teams. Who would want it? A popular complaint is the EPL players don't have a christmas break but that's only part of the problem.
     
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    Delaney vs Brugge, goal of the evening.

     
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    Seems he used his job as a way of securing a bung to work for a foreign company hoping to make a profit out of transfers. They were paying him to tell them how they could get round the FA's rules essentially.

    As you mentioned the Sopranos, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't of got off so easily going against his bosses and informing for the other side :p

    It's true though, England play like it's 1994 still. Same thing happened with the England cricket side for the last 20 years. The last 18 months we've totally changed the system and are now one of the best young sides in the world (made a World Cup final, hit the highest score ever last month etc..). Nobody thought it was possible after decades of mediocrity, certainly not so soon anyway. But yeah, there's hope. The ECB (FA equivalent) have far more control and power over the county sides though, the power of the Premier League and clubs will make it difficult. Our best hope is to work on grass roots and realise it'll be a 10-15 year old project imo.
     
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    Not sure it's that bad, as you say the money is great. At the Euros Roy Hodgson was the highest paid manager, so that alone will attract some top managers. People have got the idea about this England squad being not good enough/chokers/mental weaklings and so on so nobody would expect a potential manager to do amazing, so their reputation would be safe. The bottom line is, they have a good young talented squad and there is no real reason why with a good manager and a bit of luck that they shouldn't be winning a tournament with them.

    Don't believe this, don't think it needs 15-20 years of rebuilding. Still have a very good squad of players, lots of good English players constantly come through, not the very best in the world but you don't need that. Did Portugal have the best squad in the Euros just gone? Did Greece in 2004? A good squad and a bit of luck can carry you a long way when a competent manager is in charge. I'm sure there are changes to be made but there's no reason why England couldn't expect to challenge for some of the upcoming tournaments.
     
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    The players of today are not as good as English players in years gone by, no way. Maybe that Romanticism is flowing through me, but I don't think so. I still know what I see. I'd go along that they need to start from the ground floor. Maybe not 15-20 years, but something needs to be done. I don't see how any manager can get this group to win something, even with luck, and we already know they have none.
     
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    Perhaps not as good but it is still a good squad and a young team too so it's only going to get better. I'm sure there is plenty of things that could be changed about the English game but many of them are key players in very good sides. They have a better squad than most teams in the world in terms of quality of players. Worse teams than them have won tournaments, Leicester won the Premier League last season and that's harder to do over a league season. The biggest problem for the English team, and it has been for quite some time is mental (like Arsenal I suppose). If a top manager can come in and help them overcome those barriers be tactically smart and get a bit of luck (it happens, they had the good luck to play Iceland last Euros for one thing not like they never get it), then they have a chance. You don't need the best squad to win a tournament, I mentioned Portugal and Greece, obviously there is Denmark in the 90s as another one. Liverpool in the Champions League 11 years ago Leicester last year in the League. Just need a few things to go your way.

    Probably some changes could help but it doesn't need a revolution. Plenty of good players are coming through, most of England's best players play for top sides and in people like Sterling, Kane, Ali, Barkley etc. they have as good a batch of youngsters as anyone.

    Nice choice of picture Richie, good to see a bit more Sopranos representation. - or is that him in another show?
     

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