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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. TheMuzziah

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    Wow hahaha. That was ****ing brilliant from start to finish. Ibrahimovic, Martial and De Gea all smiles at full time. :D

    Decent weekend like. :p
     
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    Fourget about it. :p
     
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  3. Though I am their supporter, this comment really made me laugh.

    You'd need Ctrl+F to find Pogba and Ibrahimovic. :D
     
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    It's hard for me to be too critical of Zlatan, he didn't really get much service. Pogba is a strange one though, he's a liability defensively and without time on the ball he doesn't really do a lot.

    In Italy he was one of 3 or 4 in the middle, 3 incredible centre backs behind him, the game is a lot slower, less physical etc.. Which probably all combined to made him look better than he actually is. He'll still be a very good player, but I think it's going to be a steep learning curve for him.
     
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    Yeah, I couldn't give much stick to Zlatan Ibrahimovic today. Against Liverpool, I was shouting a couple of times, but not today.

    Step learning curve for Pogba. No doubt.

    I hope Bailly doesn't have strained knee ligaments or something like that.
     
  6. Both were surrounded with better teammates in their previous clubs, it's time for them to adapt now to the new place. Pogba was even in FIFA Pro World XI for 2015, even those players need a bit of time after being transferred. So far Zlatan has done that better than Pogba but they aren't consistent yet. Got to fix that as soon as possible if they want to challenge for the title.
     
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    30 candidates for the 2016 Ballon d'Or have been announced:

    Sergio Aguero
    Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
    Gareth Bale
    Gianluigi Buffon
    Kevin De Bruyne
    Paulo Dybala
    Diego Godin
    Antoine Griezmann
    Gonzalo Higuain
    Zlatan Ibrahimovic
    Andres Iniesta
    Koke
    Toni Kroos
    Robert Lewandowski
    Hugo Lloris
    Riyad Mahrez
    Lionel Messi
    Luka Modric
    Thomas Muller
    Manuel Neuer
    Neymar
    Rui Patricio
    Dimitri Payet
    Pepe
    Paul Pogba
    Sergio Ramos
    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Luis Suarez
    Jamie Vardy
    Arturo Vidal
     
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    I must confess I wasn't expecting to see Rui Patrício as one of the 30 candidates, but I'm quite happy for seeing he's getting the recognition he deserves.
     
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    RIP Carlos Alberto

     
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    So with Mourinho now having an officially worse start that David Moyes did, this match in the League Cup seems to have a bit of added importance. Manchester derby anyway so I'm sure it'd be big anyway. City struggling as well though. So has been set up quite nicely this one. A win could make a big difference to either side. Can't look past City personally but you never know. Depends how seriously it's taken I guess by both sides.
     
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    Apparently Mourinho is miserable in Manchester, his family are stopping in London and he's trying to get Pogba to switch to defence..

    I hope the papers are making that up. Bizarre.
     
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    I can believe some of that, like the getting Pogba to be a defender part. :p
     
  13. Tyler trying to jinx? "Mourinho has never lost a League Cup match in 90 minutes"
     
  14. I don't know but I've been told,
    Screwing $hity never gets old. :D
     
  15. Slice'n'dice

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    Martin Tyler is the biggest Man Utd fan out there I highly doubt that.

    Classic Mourinho. Nick a goal and park the bus. That's about 70 minutes of my life that I'll never get back. That'll teach me to watch a Mourinho match that doesn't involve my team. What was I expecting?

    Nice foul to assist the goal by Herrera too. Possibly Ibra too, but I'd need to see that closer up.

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  16. Strange, to me it looked like he's been kissing City's @$$ a lot in recent years.

    Nothing about nicking, could have scored before that goal, could have also doubled the lead after it unlike City who couldn't do anything except endless passing around.

    I mean, 0 shots on target.
    That's gotta hurt.


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    Well played by Mourinho and Manchester United. Didn't allow City anything.

    I think they would trade this for a derby win in the league but every derby win is a big one. They have a good chance to go all the way in this cup, though it's going to be a tougher schedule for them with all the competitions they have.
     
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    pretty happy with that draw. Just need Southampton to do us a favour by knocking out Arsenal and I fancy another trip to Anfield south:D yeah I know one match at a time and all that. :p
     
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    Ibra just stood, no foul.

    United were definitely better, had several good periods, had more shots and the possession was almost even. Can't call them bus parkers for defending the lead in the last 10 minutes.
     
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    More than one tactic out there, people creating their own formations every day on Footy.

    Ibra has been pretty useless recently. I'm not just getting on a bandwagon. I can see. But yeah, like they were saying on commentary, Martial out, Rooney out, you really have to play him. You could try Rashford in the centre, but he could be due a break as well.
     
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    I've seen quite a few articles on it, so strange! The money he cost and the criticism of him being inept positionally in midfield, why play him at centre back where it's even more important?

    I doubt even Mourinho has the balls to try that one.
     
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    Just look at the contrast to his reaction to Benteke's worldie last season and Martial's decent goal in the Man Utd Liverpool match last season. As big a United fan as anyone. Not to mention when ever Pogba does anything remotely decent he has an orgasm. Seems pretty clear to me.

    Well it's hard to make chances against Mourinho's bus. Neither side had a shot on target in the first half, which is pretty embarrassing and represents the sort of quality the game had. Man Utd started the second half well and got a goal that their play deserved although obviously that goal shouldn't have been allowed. No doubt who was the better of the two teams though. Was just pretty dull viewing. City clearly feel they have bigger fish to fry that's why they played a bit of a reserve team and didn't seem to go that hell for leather for an equaliser.

    Yeah seeing it again it doesn't look like it. Herrera's definitely was a foul though no intent to play the ball whatsoever and Fernando is definately getting to the ball if he doesn't.

    Yeah no doubt they were the better team. Although neither team were great. City looked particularly ****. Yeah more like the last 30 odd minutes but sure. not compared to the Liverpool game for instance. Went for it a little bit more.
     
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    I really can't see it. He's pretty poor defensively, him playing deep has not done him well so playing centre back would be mental.
     
  24. Calling Benteke's goal a worldie but Martial's decent though...

    Isn't that one of the goals not to let opponents have a chance? Don't expect them to move aside so City can have a shot. The goal was totally legit, Herrera and Fernando missing the ball and colliding is a non-story. Nobody complained.

    City were on a 5 games winless streak, only someone dumb would decide to tank (not to mention it's a derby) and stretch that streak even further. Derby in the cup and both teams looking to bounce back from some recent disappointments, I'd say it was an equally important game for the two sides.
     
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    Didn't look like a foul to me...

    It wasn't a great derby, I agree. What irritates me sometimes is that teams don't want to risk during big games, it's more about not losing than winning. It's frustrating to see that, especially during some international games. Not many want to go for it.
     
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    I wonder if it's a move by Mourinho to boost his confidence, remind him of his quality and maybe take more pride in his defensive game when he's in midfield. I agree though, talk of moving him to centre back is crazy.
     
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    What you don't think Benteke's overhead kick was a worldie? Completely different to Rooney's the other season when they were wanking over it for weeks? Oh wait, it was almost identical. Martial's was a good goal. But listen to Martin Tyler celebrate when that goes in, you can hear the disappointment in his voice when Benteke scores. Seem to remember he tried to claim that Martials was "even better" which is obviously the biggest load of **** I've ever heard.

    Herrera blocked him off it was blatant. He's not playing the ball whatsoever, Fernando is really close than Herrera challenges it. You deserved the win, the better team on the day. But no way on earth should that goal have counted.

    Not saying it's a tank, but look at the line up they played, clearly not a great priority. Man Utd played a first choice 11. If it was equally important, I think City would've played their first choice 11. There didn't seem a huge sense of urgency to get back into the game as well, maybe they were just awful but it wasn't like losing was the end of the world for them, not to say they didn't want to get back into it but put it this way, If it was a Champions League final for instance, or a league match I doubt it would've played out that way after going behind.

    Well guess we'll agree to disagree on that one.

    Yeah I know it is frustrating, that's what Mourinho's all about though isn't it. He's made a career of it, a very good one at that although possibly on the slide now. But he's done very well historically in those games by doing just that. City, I dunno, partially Man Utd's tactics, partially just a bit off and obviously not a first choice 11.
     
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    Yeah had a bit of a look for this, seems that it's about him fitting into his system and thus having to do defensive work, "he'd be a phenomenal central defender too" as in he's just versatile got all that good ability in defensive positions as well, of course he can fit into the system. Rather than I'm going to play him at centre back, that's how I read it anyway.
     
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    As evidenced by both teams picking very strong lineups...oh wait! ;) Look, I didn't even watch the game (think I made the right decision in the end:cool:) but that's just bollocks. It was clearly not as important for City and they obviously paid the price for playing a second/third string side. Pep also looked pretty happy after the game don't think he'll lose any sleep over the result. Questions will be asked if he doesn't win at west brom though, and rightly so.

    Comparing Tekkers and Martials goal? o_OExpected better from you. :p
     
  30. Both Benteke's and Martial's were great goals, different types. Let's not compare them to Wazza's over City though. :D As for Tyler I remember his commentary of that match. But I don't think a United fan would have orgasm to some City's goals, then sound apathetic when United scored an injury time winner against City or on one occasion turn into a referee critic and say that Rooney the goalscorer shouldn't be on the pitch. Even though he had those moments where he totally sounded as a United fan, he had completely opposite ones as well.

    It was just a collision, not even Fernando himself was complaining about it. We'll agree to disagree I guess.

    Man United had Blind and Rojo in central defense instead of Smalling and Bailly while Carrick hasn't been regular, so it's not first choice 11 from United either. City brought on their big players later on.
    I guess it speaks a lot about City if they actually didn't care about a city derby while having a poor run of form as well. Good riddance to any team that would rather lose in order to have a less demanding schedule than compete all the time.

    That's 6 games without a win now for Pep, the worst run of his career. So far he is getting away with it, maybe those opening 6 EPL wins gave him that margin for error. Get them off the top spot will you. ;)
     
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    Someone said recently that Mourinho goes over dead bodies in order to win. That really sums up some of his games in Inter and 2nd period at Chelsea. I personally have been more irritated by his behavior than his tactics though.

    Yep, it was a bit of both that decided the derby.
     
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    Yeah, it is bollocks.

    Footy Manager tells me where he can play and can't. I've been playing the 17 beta this week. Anyway, Pogba is not going to become our next centre back rock. :p
     
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    You definately did mate. Objectively speaking, marginally better than the Liverpool United game was. But it was crap.

    Benteke's goal was a world class goal, arguably goal of the season and would be any season. Better than Rooney's came of his foot rather than his shin. Both top corner, Tekkers is better. Martial's was a good goal never a goal of the season any season. You're thinking of the Aguero goal, but the drama of that, last minute winner to win the league kind of explains that. Probably the ones where he's sounded like the "opposite" maybe getting excited with City goals against Liverpool (not a popular team with ol' Martin to say the least), or the Aguero league winner, which is a pretty unique situation.

    Yes a collision of Herrera's left foot with Fernando's right leg. Still a foul.

    Well considering Bailly's injured Smalling had a horrible time against Chelsea and Man Utd did in general, it's highly debatable that he didn't just change things to try and improve on indifferent form.

    Yeah I probably wouldn't be too happy if I saw a Merseyside derby or a Man Utd or Chelsea or something in the League Cup and we played reserves. Have to make these decisions though, there's a lot of games. If the run continues more questions will be asked. But if they smash West Brom at the weekend and go on a run, then I doubt many City fans will complain about that decision.

    We'll do our best I'm sure. On the subject of Benteke we'll be seeing him again this weekend. Hopefully not going to be repeating that.

    Yeah his behaviour is pretty embarrassing at times, last season all came to a head for Chelsea but got a big rap sheet from the past. The old eye poke being another classic moment.

    Well you say that, but look at Guadiola making people like Mascherano, Kolarov, (was talking about Fernandinho before don't remember if he actually did it) etc. into Centre backs David Alaba, Philip Lahm into a centre mid. Klopp turning Lucas into a pretty good centre back etc. Would have trouble doing a lot of that in footy manager.

    What new features has 17 got? Barely played 2016. Just robs you of too much time. Best game ever though in a lot of ways.
     
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  35. You should check the replays again if you think Benteke's goal was top corner just like Rooney's. Either that or top corner is one very large area for you. Goals can be compared in whatever way we like, like who had less time to decide and execute, who was totally facing against the goal and so on... And Rooney wins it for me.

    If you say so...

    My point stands that United didn't pick their strongest side either. City rested more but it's not as big of a difference as some are saying. They won what was IMO the bigger derby of the two this season but this one matters as well.

    I think City have solid depth in their squad and could handle that, especially in case the draw is kind. Would have been maximum four more games to play if they won yesterday. United are having the toughest schedule of all since it's Thursday nights for them, though it's the price that has to be paid for what happened last season.
     
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    As I saw the schedule for tomorrow when PSG are playing, I was quite surprised to see that Ligue 1 table. PSG already drew 2 and lost 2 of the opening 10 games and are 6 points behind the top spot. For comparison, at the end of last season league they had only 6 draws and 2 losses.

    I do like their attacking style of play but I really hope they get pushed or maybe even dethroned this season. It's still relatively early days but here is hoping for a good title race. Even something like the one in 2014-15 would be nice.
     
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    Close enough, regardless he beats a better keeper. His technique is better because he actually uses his foot. Arguably you could say Rooney's is a mishit, as nobody intends to hit the ball with their shin. Both great goals, fantastic goals in fact. Martial's is a good goal but it is nowhere near as good as either goal.

    Fernando is ahead of him and about 30cm away from the ball for Herrera charges him to the ground.

    I'm not convinced they didn't given who was fit and that you expect a few changes after a 4-0 drubbing. Smalling didn't have the best of times against Chelsea, Carrick is much better than Fellaini who has been starting so he's a worthy starter even if he isn't a regular. Definitely they won the bigger derby, this could obviously be big for Man Utd though, got a pretty good run of fixtures from what I recall so could use it as a springboard potentially.

    Yeah well they probably could have, Pep obviously didn't want to take the risk though and this is the lowest priority competition and in spite of their shaky run, the game wasn't as important to them. They are still top of the League after all.
     
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    Lots of converted rice running about the field. That is my daily Sopranos reference.

    Footy is pretty much same old, same old. They've changed the setup a little bit so things usually end up on one page, rather than having to click about as much. For instance, if you're lacking coaches you will be told about it and coaches will be recommended on the same page, etc. Just feels like there is less clicking going on. Same if you're searching for players.

    They have a new social media page for your fans to rant on. It is pretty amusing, although it gets repetitive. I should give Carrick more game time because he is unhappy, let us forget that I'm top of the league with my current starting team.

    Unlike Jose Mourinho, I do know my strongest 11.

    Romagnoli looks to be the current up and coming goat Centre back. I had to have him.
     
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    Don't remember that one. When does that relate to?

    I see, always found the recommendations to be a bit insufficient in the past maybe they've improved it though. Would probably still end up checking myself, especially with players. Saw it had a design a son feature after you'd been at a club for about 20 years or something. Think the most I ever got was about 12 though so doubt I'll get to do that.

    You just do a Man Utd game or do you take little teams up the league? After a few years with a big team you just win pretty much everything it gets kind of boring I find.
     
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    It is from this scene


    I saw that design a son feature. Mine would end up like a poor mans Darren Ferguson, but I'd play him anyway. haha The game definitely feels more user friendly this time. It was always difficult for me to get exactly what I needed in previous games. Of course, if you have been playing the game forever, you will just have to check it out for yourself to really notice the changes because there are so many little changes that I can't really explain.

    Just managing Man United now. You can say what you want about United in real life, but you load the game up and you have all these great players, plus you still have money to spend. Then you can get rid of some of the flops for big money. It does make it pretty easy. Especially if you have a list of wonder-kids in front of you.

    If I played it the same amount as I did years back then I'd be looking for a big challenge. I've done it all throughout the years. Northern Irish, English 3rd division, Scotland, etc. Back in 2000, it was quite funny seeing a couple of my school mates on the Glentoran squad earning £20 a week. Not one of them ended up signing for the Glens, but they were in this game just because they were on their books after they left school.
     
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    Ah I see. Remember that one now.

    Never really looked in detail about it. Do you design their stats and stuff or what? Can't imagine how long you'd have to play to get it. Will have to check out this next one when it comes out. Not sure how I feel about it being more user friendly. Always good when searching a stumbling upon great players after a long search. Expect it works out alright though.

    Yeah if you play as a good team with decent resources then it's only going to be a few seasons before you start to get stupidly good. Always would do that first though and once I started to dominate I'd do a game with a lower championship team or something, sometimes putting a conference team in the premiership with quite a bit of money so you buy an entire team was quite good, but rarely went that far down. Seems kind of cheating to have a list of the wonder kids, much better to discover them for yourself I think, would never like to look up which players are good on the internet, seems to take away part of the game for me.

    Yeah must be weird seeing people that you know on there. Can't say I've had that myself, apart from making a bunch of people that I know and put them in teams including myself of course.
     
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    I'm not sure about the father/son thing. Be cool if your son ended up being like Cesare Maldini/Paolo Maldini, that amazing red and black super sperm. :p Your kid is the future goat. I guess it depends, might be random or how you set yourself up when the game starts. You know how you can set yourself as a previous international, etc. I've no idea. I'll probably never get to see it anyway, not enough time in the day.

    Here is what I mean about user friendly. In previous games, all this information would be scattered about. You get a page like this for, scouting, tactics, coaches and so on. Just saves a lot of time. There is no way you wont like this part of the game setup. I'm that confident.

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    Note before the West Brom game. Tony Pulis thinks I'm overrated. I'll be my usual classy self and let the football do the talking.
     
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    I see. Yeah can't imagine playing enough to do that, even during the days when I might have done, I would never play on the same game long enough to do so. 20 seasons is ridiculous, quite an interesting idea though.

    Yeah you're probably right, doesn't seem to dissimilar really but probably makes things a little easier.

    Classic Pulis, have to be honest, can't usually resist a nice war of words with managers I don't like.
     
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    Arsenal playing some great stuff today. Sexy football.
     
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    Moyes is finnish
     
  46. Gunners on top at the end of match day 10 unless City or Liverpool win in same convincing way.

    Good to see Darmian in the lineup.
     
  47. Horribly wasteful Ibrahimovic, just like against Stoke.

    To copy JohnnyMac

    HORRIBLE BIAS FROM CLATTENBURG TOWARDS MAN UNITED!

    HOW MANY MORE TIMES WILL THEY GET AWAY WITH IT?!

    DISGUSTING!!! :mad::mad::mad:
     
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    Feeling a bit sad for unlucky United but there is a part of me that always enjoys seeing Mourinho coming up against a bus and failing to break it. This wastefulness can't go on for much longer though, they will get better.

     
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    I think it can go on much longer.
     
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    I really hope Sunderland go down. For the last however many years they have been abysmal all season, only to get it together and win a few games in the last month to stay up. Rinse and repeat.
     

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