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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Poisoned Slice

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    Big Sam is licking his lips right now. Thinking of his way back in and becoming a hero once again.

    But it looking very unlikely that they will stay up this time. I think it is their worst start to a premier league season ever.
     
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    I think they say that about Sunderland every year haha. I'd prefer to see someone come up and give it a good go like Bournemouth, Watford and Leicester have done over the past few seasons.
     
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    There's always something quite satisfying about someone tasting their own medicine isn't there. Think Mourinho has lost something though, probably they will get better, but the game has moved on without him I think in a sense and there's a lot of good teams at the top now he's had a disastrous 18 months, do wonder (and hope) whether his time at top level clubs is coming to an end. If things don't get a lot better at United before he leaves, I think it could be.

    Yeah was thinking about him possibly going back there. Was talk of him getting banned from football though after his latest shenanigans.

    Do look particularly ****ing awful at the moment but you never know. Agree, would be happy to see them go too, think this could be their season though. Only so many seasons of flirting with relegation that you can do before you eventually go down. Just ask Villa.

    Chelsea looking good at the moment. Feeling better about your chances this season?
     
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    Yeah there have been a few teams over the years to fill that role. Wigan and Fulham spring to mind. They would be a disgrace all season, then win 2-3 matches against teams with nothing to play for in May and stay up. Only to do the same again the year after lol.

    Yes we look good, if we stayed with 4 at the back (which I assumed we would for this season) we would be around mid table. I didn't think 5 at the back would work, let's face it, it shouldn't really. Victor Moses at right back, Azpilicueta as a centre back with Luiz along side him? It sounds like a disaster! For some reason it's working though.

    I'll be interested to see how it works when we're behind in a game.
     
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    Stranger things have happened, I guess. Sunderland might end up feeling the Moyes and he could become a hero. Or he could be sacked tomorrow. Not looking good. I can remember Roy Hodgson and his miracle at Fulkham, etc. Just not seeing it here.

    As for Chelsea. Yes, they are looking good. Will win sexiest manager. :p

    Was reading an article about Jose not having it any more. How he has lost touch with the world around him. Talking of footie again. I went on a four game run without a win and it said there was feelings of discontent at the club, etc, and that I had lost my touch. hahaha The board are happy with me.. Didn't hurt that I brought in big January signing. Ruben Neves.

    I still have faith in Jose Mourinho.
     
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    He says he still loves the game and is as motivated as ever, it just hasn't looked like it the last few years. The way it went wrong at Chelsea, people at Man Utd seem to be disappointed with the version of Mourinho they have got (moody, distant etc..). It's strange he hasn't got off to a great start as he always does with new clubs, so who knows how it'll work out, it's totally new territory.

    He seems to be looking to cultivate the siege mentality that works well for him, so maybe that'll give the side an injection over the next few months.
     
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    Yup, the biggest test will be when Chelsea are behind. November has historically been a tough month for Chelsea anyway and the fixtures this month arent easy. Everton home, Boro away, Spurs home and City away. There's gotta be dropped points there somewhere. Hope Chelsea somehow win all four. So happy for Moses he's flourishing in the new 343. Alonso looks a bit suspect defensively. There's still trouble for the defense when up against a team that presses well so extremely important that Matic and Kante help out like they did yesterday. Matic is getting back to his best which is good to see. Terry can't play in a back 3, the West Ham game showed us that. Luiz has been great which i didn't expect at all tbh guess the back 3 suits him. Fabregas should be brought on if we're losing and need to go all out for the win/draw because he doesn't press well enough and slows down the game abit.

    Credit to Conte for changing the formation. Back 3 with the ball and back 5 without it seems tough to break down. Let's see how it stands up to the likes of Liverpool and City who seem to score for fun.

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    Accurate assessment! I agree about Matic, he's definitely gone under the radar, which probably speaks to how well he's been playing. He's making things look easy and he's solid as a rock, which is just what you want from him. His partnership with Kante has been excellent, but more depth is needed in there I feel. We can get away with it whilst we only have one game a week, but it'll be hard to only have 2 options in there when there's 2 or 3 games a week (which we hope to get back to in the coming years!).

    I think we also need more players capable of playing in a 3 at the back (Terry can't, as you say). Whilst Moses and Alonso are the only ones who can play wing back as Conte wants it.

    So heading in the right direction, but reinforcements and seeing how we cope with being behind, how we deal with teams figuring out a way of playing against it (as they usually do over time) are challenges ahead. But yes, positive signs!
     
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    Yeah true, at least Wigan played some nice football though. But yeah lots of teams do it, but eventually your luck runs out.

    Yeah still not convinced 3/5 at the back will work in the long term, looking very good at the moment though, Victor Moses is looking a proper player now, Luiz too. Think it'll probably get figured out eventually remember Liverpool did it the other year after a disastrous start they went on a really good run using that formation for quite some months from December to April, then got thrashed by Man Utd and from that point on it seems like everyone had our number. Think Chelsea have better players than Liverpool did then, but nonetheless the vulnerabilities are there, still not convinced, however good Chelsea look at the moment.
     
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    Meanwhile Schweinsteiger is finally training with the first team.

    Mourinho is getting soft. :eek:
     
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    Back in to save the season for Manchester United.
     
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    Fixed that for ya mate. ;)
     
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    Even if he is going to play, I don't think calling a player like Bastian is a desperate move from the manager. ;)
     
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    I fancied City before this game, for some reason. One sweet counter attack later and now Barcelona are doing the ballerina stuff. City will be lucky to keep it 0-1 as we approach half time.
     
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    Jinx. :p

    One of the first things I was taught. If in doubt put it out.
     
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    Messi absolutely shining in this season so far.

    Busquets on the other hand has been awful for a while now. Combine that with absent Iniesta and we've got a vulnerable Barcelona.
     
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    City turning it on in second half.
     
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    Joachim Löw's coaching staff has gained a member.

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    Poor. Quite similar to El Clasico in Madrid in 2014-15 season. Scored the opener, controlled, could have doubled the lead, but then collapsed.

    Tough trip to Sevilla this weekend and there aren't many positives to take going into that match...
     
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    Good reminder FedFosterWallace.

    The best goalscorer of the World Cup has retired.

    Man I wish Ronaldo El Fenomeno kept that record....
     
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    Really impressive from City. Barca missing a few players but City really were excellent. Should've had a penalty as well, good value for it. Pep's their winless run seems a long time away now though.
     
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    OG Ronaldo. :) I wish he hadn't porked up and become nearly unrecognizable.
     
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    Ibra being rested.

    Mkhitaryan on the bench with Phil Jones.
     
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    Fener going to lead the aggregate score between the two clubs by the time this match finishes LOL.
     
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    At least Rooney ended his goal drought and became Man United's joint best goalscorer in Europe alongside RvN.
     
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    Paul Scholes keeping it real. With Blind and Rojo in cb, we need to score at least 3 goals to win and our other main problem is scoring goals.

    Doomed!!!
     
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    Coz every little things is gonna be alright ...

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    Sick burn. :p
     
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    Just saw a stat. Costa has 40 goals in 64 appearances, only one of those was a penalty. Pretty impressive considering he did nothing all last season.

    Anyway, looking forward to the games this weekend before yet another international break :rolleyes:
     
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    Absolutely brilliant display from Chelsea! Haven't seen such beautiful football at Stamford Bridge since the Ancelotti days. Important not to get complacent though, some big games coming up.

    Also damn you international break.. hope the momentum doesn't get upset.
     
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    The Sunderland comeback begins.

    Yes, Chelsea are on fire right now.
     
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    I was concerned coming up against the second best defence in the game, playing 5 at the back like us. I thought it could be one of those games where a team finds a way to counter our formation. Not the case though! Wow. Hazards second it seemed like we had possession for 5 minutes before that beautiful last 3 passes. Incredible.
     
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    Arsenal so poor today, 2 points dropped. Liverpool are actually going to win the league ffsss.
     
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    At this early point in the season my shortlist for the title is Man City/Chelsea then Liverpool. Wenger's Arsenal as always more times than not has lacked the steel backbone and application at crucial points. Even during the season they were unbeaten in the premier league they still weren't close in the Champions league.

     
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    Chelsea/Liverpool have the benefit of no European matches, just like Leicester last season, meaning they pretty much always have 1 week breaks. However, I think City/Arsenal have better squads so it will be interesting to see how well they can cope of three/four fronts.
    As for Arsenal's backbone, they haven't got the spine of the sides from the 90's but we are definitely more resiliant than 5/6 years ago, we just need a striker, a full back and perhaps even a winger in January then I think we can do it
     
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    No European football has it's pros and cons. The players should be fresher for each EPL league as the season progresses but with the 1 week breaks some players can also lose their intensity without regular weekly matches.

    City's win over Barca raised the bar for them in Europe but they then only drew their next match, a match they were expected to win. Regarding Arsenal in Europe, as it's still a Wenger team I don't expect their record this season to change much from the previous several.

    2004–05
    UEFA Champions League 8 3 4 1 13 9 +4 R16
    2005–06 UEFA Champions League 13 8 4 1 15 4 +11 RU
    2006–07 UEFA Champions League 10 5 3 2 13 6 +7 R16
    2007–08 UEFA Champions League 12 7 3 2 24 9 +15 QF
    2008–09 UEFA Champions League 14 7 3 4 23 11 +12 SF
    2009–10 UEFA Champions League 12 7 2 3 26 14 +12 QF
    2010–11 UEFA Champions League 8 5 0 3 21 11 +10 R16
    2011–12 UEFA Champions League 10 6 2 2 13 11 +2 R16
    2012–13 UEFA Champions League 8 4 1 3 13 11 +2 R16
    2013–14 UEFA Champions League 10 6 1 3 14 7 +7 R16
    2014–15 UEFA Champions League 10 6 2 2 19 11 +8 R16
    2015–16 UEFA Champions League 8 3 0 5 13 15 −2 R16

    Towards the business end of the CL when the teams play solid, tight football the relatively open style Arsenel play will likely be their undoing again. My opinion is that Wenger's Arsenal lack one specific quality rather than specific players for specific positions.

     
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    After the embarrassment of having a poll to vote for our goal of the month October (where we scored only one goal), November has already been much better. Pogba with one and Ibra with two goals.

    Klopp making things click. :eek:
     
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    Thrilled to see us come back and win tonight, Sevilla away is always a really tough match. Still only 2 points behind.

    Sometimes I wish there are no international breaks...
     
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    lol

    Pogba's was very nice. Need to see some of that against Arsenal.

    They are talking stats on match of the day. 6 Carrick performances, 6 wins. He better start against Arsenal.

    Swansea played like a pub team in the first half and we took our foot off the gas a bit when we went 3-0. Just happy to win again in the league.
     
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    Some interesting stuff here;

    Since the start of 2015-16...
    Manager Club Premier League points per game
    * - Managers who have taken charge of 10 or more games
    Francesco Guidolin Swansea 1.26
    Sam Allardyce
    Sunderland 1.20
    Roberto Martinez
    Everton 1.19
    Quique Sanchez Flores
    Watford 1.18
    Jose Mourinho
    Chelsea/ Man United 1.15
     
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    Allardyce to United then? An extra 0.05 points per game is never a bad thing!
     
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    Haha couldn't hurt, and he did it with ****ing Sunderland imagine what he could do with Man Utd's players. As those immortal words he once spoke "would win the league and champions league every year". Plays a pretty similar style to Mourinho too.
     
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    Today is a 30 year anniversary of Sir Alex's first game in charge of Manchester United, a 2-0 loss to Oxford United.

    Tough to imagine him surviving those first years in today's game. Luckily everything went fine. More than fine.
     
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    Apparently he was going to get sacked in 1990 were it not for his FA Cup win. Imagine if he lost.
     
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    Yeah I remember, Man United managed to win the final replay against Crystal Palace 1-0 after a 3-3 draw. In a way the most important 1-0 win ever.
     
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    Imo he was the greatest manager ever and his 2012/13 title win sealed it; to take an one of his weakest squads he had in a long time and to turn them into runaway winners was incredible. I knew you guys would struggle a lot without him (not that I'm complaining ;))
     
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    I agree. It was an amazing response from him and everyone in the team after City nicked the one before in the last minute. Really dominant display in 2012/13. Sir Alex really hit the jackpot by signing RvP. Thanks guys. ;)
     
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    Yes obviously more then fine... But! They never managed to really "knock Liverpool off their perch". You know why. Oh and in my opinion he can't be considered the greatest manager of all time seeing as Bob Paisley has won one more European Cup then him, in a much shorter period. Still decent career like, you've got to admit, just not number 1. :p

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