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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Poisoned Slice

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    He has won me over. For years, he was just that guy from the over powered pro evo team. He is not the same player as he was then and he doesn't do much, but he does what matters. Scoring important goals.

    Talks the talk and walks the walk.

    I'm sure Zlatan predicted that he would win me over. Yeah, be wishing he was years younger. Not often you see this sort of impact from a player of his age. Maybe the odd goal and half the appearances. Pretty amazing.
     
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    People should not overlook the fact that Southampton had a proper vacation leading up to this match, whereas United played 2 Europa League ties and Blackburn, if I am not mistaken.
     
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    United have been awarded 8 goals that were offside this season
     
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    Really? :eek:

    Were any of those match winners?
     
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    Hat-trick against City, brace against Liverpool... Vardy's form hasn't been good, but his timing has been absolutely perfect. :D
     
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    Vardy is a one-trick pony and a one season wonder. Just saying :/

    I'll take an injured Peter Crouch over a fit Vardy tbh
     
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    Entire Leicester are a one season wonder, but still a very pleasant one.
     
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    Real Madrid went from 1-0 up to 1-3 down (and Bale got sent off) at home to Las Palmas. Then Cristiano Ronaldo scored a late brace to rescue a point. Barca trashed Sporting Gijon 6-1.

    Real will only be 2 points ahead if they win their game in hand. You guys are back in the title race @Noleberic123 @Tiki-Taka

    Continue the meltdown! :D
     
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    It was a really enjoyable game to watch live. Messi with a header lob, Suarez with a beautiful volley, Neymar with a great free kick, and Alcacer and Rakitic added one each. This would be a perfect scoreline for us when PSG come here but they are on a whole different level and I don't see us rescuing a disastrous Champions League season.
    I was just about to respond. It's been a while since the last time both Barcelona and Real Madrid dropped a bit more points during the season. I still need our players to convince me more with their own performances but I definitely didn't expect the current standings in the table, it's really good. Hope we will keep the pressure on Real who are at least no longer in unstoppable mode that they were in until 1-2 months ago.
     
  10. Remember it was barely 2 weeks ago you were about to draw 1-1 with Leganes and Real would have had a shot to gain a 9 point lead. Now it's 2 assuming Real win their game in hand. I have a feeling El Clasico will decide this.

    Now that Enrique has confirmed he will leave at the end of the season, who would you like to see as his replacement?
     
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    The transition era .
     
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    Mourinho. :p

    I don't really know who will be available. Sampaoli and Wenger are guys I wouldn't mind seeing either of them here next season. Would love to see Pep back but he ruled out that possibility.
     
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    I hear there's a few ex Barcelona players doing a decent job in La Liga. That seems to be a route they like to go down, someone who's familiar with the club and it's identity. Maybe they'll have a look at one of those.
     
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    There is obviously Luis Enrique, while Eusebio Sacristian is managing Real Sociedad and Ernesto Valverde is managing Athletic Bilbao. The latter wasn't with Barca for a long time though.

    There is another ex Barcelona player who is doing a decent job in the Premier League - Ronald Koeman. :) He and Sampaoli seem to be the favorites for the job right now but there is a lot to go until June-July when we will announce the new manager. The president said it's going to be some "super coach". As long as he does a good job I don't care if he is a big name or not.
     
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    Lots of options then! I imagine Sampaoli would get them playing some beautiful stuff. He's done incredible things with good players, scary to think what he could do with a team of world class individuals. He's also pretty solid defensively, by Barca's standards anyway ;)
     
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    Borussia Dortmund's Mario Gotze, one of the best young players in the world, the scorer of the World Cup winning goal, has been ruled out indefinitely due to myopathy, a rare muscular disease. Very sad.

    Fernando Torres had a nasty accident yesterday. Head collision knocked him out in the air and he landed straight on his face. He had a scare, could have swallowed his tongue and suffocated but one of his teammates and medical staff intervened in time. Luckily everything is ok now, he's released from the hospital and will just need to rest for a few days.

    Some good news during the weekend, please.
     
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    £89m you having a laugh?! :D Well in Bournemouth, 12v10 for 50 mins and they still got what they came for.
     
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    Poor Man United. I hope they go all the way in the Europa League because they just keep wasting their opportunities to get higher up the table, it could cost them. I wouldn't want that kind of wastefulness to happen to any team. Not even Real Madrid. :p

    Ibrahimovic and the guy from Bournemouth really made a mess and will probably be suspended. They should know by know that you can't get away with controversy in the Premier League.
     
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    This club is absolute banter. Imagine having Coquelin at your club let alone start him in a big match
     
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    Poor Arsenal got destroyed once more. LOL
     
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    CBA man.
     
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    Maybe jumped the gun. They are showing signs of life right now.
     
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    Should have been ahead of Arsenal but Wastefulchester United must have settled nicely to their 6th position. Must get a positive result in one or two derbies.

    Napoli beat Roma away which means Juventus can go 10 points clear with a win tomorrow against Udinese. Never in doubt.
     
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    Great goals and overall performance by Messi in a 5-0 home win over Celta. Neymar, Rakitic and Umtiti also got on the scoreboard.

    It's nice to gain some momentum finally in La Liga. But now we need to give our 110% in the 2nd leg against Paris Saint Germain.
     
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    Now if we can just start playing like that against the **** teams we'll be set. Awesome performance that, great game overall too.

    Imagine not being one of the best teams in the country season after season. Oh wait, that's virtually every team except Arsenal/

    The sense of entitlement from Arsenal fans is ridiculous. No shame in losing to Liverpool if you're top 6, top of the mini-league. Although to be fair not starting Sanchez was absolutely mental.

    But then Arsenal fan tv wouldn't be so enjoyable if you weren't like that, so who am I to tell you to change?

    But when he and Ozil lose in the summer for cut price deals you'll be screwed especially if you don't have Wenger and you'll come to realise that there are lower positions that you can finish than fourth.

    Poor Manchester United, yeah poor Man Utd being one of the most successful clubs in England and the world, poor Man Utd spending 150 million every summer in desperation to buy back the League and constantly failing. Wastefulness if you're own fault. If you can't beat teams in free-fall like little old Bournemouth with that sort of backing and investment, you have earned no sympathy whatsoever.

    Not sure about Ibrahimovic as he plays for Man Utd, that tends to get you a pass. Ordinarily it would but I doubt he's getting one somehow.
     
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    We've been through this. You are having a simplistic view that the team deserve to win if and only if they score more goals and that luck plays no part whatsoever. I don't and never will. As a fan of the club that tends to be wasteful but still managing to get the result, I simply feel sad for Man United who drew five or six games at home that they totally dominated (though it's good payback for Mourinho). Just like Liverpool could have easily defeated Bournemouth away by a big margin but ended up losing the game completely. The spending is happening with 90% of big clubs now and the remaining 10% will probably join them soon. I am certainly not a fan of that and it actually makes me sad that even teams like us in Spain and Man United in England have started doing that too, but I see no point of highlighting them or any other team. That is simply what's going on today, unfortunately.

    Elbowing and similar stuff won't get you a pass no matter who you play for. I doubt Ibrahimovic would have done that if that player didn't stamp on his head earlier but you have to keep your cool and both should be suspended for at least a couple of games.
     
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    One Liverpool fan talking about the refs, the other one about the spending. Imagine my shock. Meanwhile, this club has been awarded the least number of penalties of all 20 EPL clubs this season (maybe tied with someone else after getting just their 2nd of the season yesterday) while having a very low number of them in the previous few as well; and it's only one of the latest teams to join the spending party after so many successful years of actually battling those kinds of teams. So glad I am not a local fan or from the team's country at all, they seem to be way more invested in these rivalries, looking at tiniest flaws and making up some themselves.
     
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    Wasn't aware of that stat. Here, Real Madrid and Barcelona get at least two penalties every month. Obviously these two have a better attack and earn them better but they are also clearly favored on occasions. A lot of people are having trouble with the Premier League referees but at least their mistakes, which will always happen, are better spread, if it makes sense. Nobody seems to have the clear advantage from what I have seen. Maybe Manchester United a decade ago had more tough decisions going their way than not but still it's nowhere near what the big 2 here get, what PSG gets in France, Juventus in Italy, Bayern in Germany and so on. I'd take your FA and referees over ours any day.
     
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    When a team has the glory and success plus numerous decisions, one only has to look back to last weekend for a huge helping hand and a huge slice of luck to win them the cup. One shouldn't feel sorry for them. Feel sorry for the teams who have terrible owners who run them into the ground don't care about the club and screw over the fans. Not a team with more money than anyone else, more success domestically than anyone else in that country so when a little club like Bournemouth who have done wonderfully well to get themselves up to the top table, not spending a great deal, well managed and playing good football get a point against them, fans of football as a whole should say bravo Bournemouth. Not poor old Manchester United who have had more than their share of good luck over the years. Likewise with Liverpool when they capitulated they absolutely threw it away, their own fault, just like it's Man Utd's fault they couldn't beat them. Man City have spent ridiculously as well of course and it would be a truly wonderful thing for football of both Manchester clubs finished outside the top 4 spending about 300 million between them in one year, and that is something which could very possibly happen, which is something that absolutely should be celebrated not pitied for their inability to kill off some small teams.

    Both should probably be suspended, not certain whether it was an intentional stamp or not, only he knows. But only the Bournemouth player will be suspended, watch this space...

    What you lack in penalties (although if you aren't getting fouled in the box it's not a penalty) plus of course with the most defensively minded manager of the top sides, probably in the box the least anyway. But you make up for it with offside goals as someone mentioned before, not the glory days of Fergie basically having the FA on his payroll and Howard Webb being Man Utd's star player but you still do very well with getting decisions going your way. Just because Mourinho says it, doesn't make it true, in fact more often than not it means the opposite.
     
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    Certainly we did. There were some where I was a bit red faced. Offside winning goal against Chelsea who were down to nine, non-penalty to win the FA Cup tie vs Liverpool, extremely harsh straight red on Kompany, and other few bad calls but it's so blown out of proportion it's ridiculous. Look at any other powerhouse from other leagues and you'll see there might be far bigger devils than us.
     
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    Which is what I said on that day after the cup final finished, they were lucky to come out as winners. Some of their late or controversial wins during their glory years also happened thanks to luck. Maybe these bad results they are having are some sort of an equalizer because everyone goes through good and bad periods at some point, but I am hardly ever focusing on the past but only on the current match. A truly wonderful thing for football would be us witnessing Leicester type of stories every other year but that won't be the case, the stronger richer teams will rule most of the time. And I certainly wouldn't celebrate anyone's failure, that's just wrong.
     
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    Assuming whatever the number of offside goals is makes up for the lack of penalties, it's balanced at best so there should be no story about favoring from the officials. Mou tends to blow things out of proportion when results don't go his way but on the other hand you are way too critical towards him and his club. I am sure you are aware of the brutal wastefulness we are going through this season. That should tell you we aren't playing defensively even though he is our manager. The low number of goals we have is because of poor conversion, not because of Mou's occasional defensive tactics, though he should show some balls and drop Ibra and Pogba once in a while when they are doing poorly. Captain Wazza easily lost his first team spot, those two shouldn't have theirs cemented so easily.
     
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    Pride yourselves on being devils, come on it's in the name. But having 8 offside goals given and 9 onside goals against you not given certainly suggests you are getting more than your fair share of decisions even now that's 17 goals. Penalties aren't the only factor and that's without even coming into Rojo's two footed challenge obsession or stuff like that Feghouli red card. Not to mention penalties can be missed as you might recall from yesterday.

    When you play smaller teams they sit back so you are likely to have more chances when that happens, doesn't make you attacking as such. He has been forced to be a little more adventurous given the team he's managing but it's still hardly gung ho. I'm surprised that you would consider the statement that he's the most defensive minded manager of the top sides a point of contention bit of a no brainer for me.

    Someone's failure is usually someone else's success in football. So it's not just celebrating someone else's failure and it be a victory in a sense against all this crazy money spending in football. It's not good for the game when people spend absurd amounts like Man City and Man Utd have in recent years, like Chelsea before them, like PSG in France and anyone really who does this, that's why one reason why Leicester's story was so magical last season, it's not as big a disparity, but if Man Utd and Man City finished outside the top four that would be a victory over this method which is not good for the game. Ultimately the war will surely be lost but these are victories and should be celebrated.
     
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    Of course some penalties can be missed but some goals can also be irrelevant depending on what the final outcome was. Talking about those offside onside goals, and who knows whether those numbers are even true. Certainly far from it if we are talking about the league alone, and we would also have to consider goal decisions that went the other way. Herrera was also sent off in one of the games for a totally unlucky incident that could have been ignored. As far as I can remember Rojo hasn't damaged anyone so it's not an issue.

    Can't control the game by yourself, two teams are playing. When you play a bigger team or if you are having a slender lead you will also have more defensive duties, but it doesn't make you a defensive team overall, and Manchester United have hardly ever been that. Maybe you see it differently and that's fine.
     
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    The typical anybody but United crap. Always a real page turner. So exciting reading the same exact thing week after week. Cheers.

    Never get boring, no?
     
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    A goal is definitely a goal though. A penalty can be missed and I can't really remember Man Utd having loads of stonewall penalties not given, been some that probably should've been given but it's the same for everyone else also had penalties not given for fouls by your players. Sure you've had a few decisions go against you just like everyone but that happens with everyone. But you do get more decisions for you than against you, all top teams do of course and Man Utd as bad as anyone for that. The fact that he hasn't damaged anyone is irrelevant to whether he should have been sent off doesn't look like Ibrahimovic or that Bournemouth guy were damaged by the incidents but there's no doubt that they were red cards assuming they were intentional. The two footed tackle has been a straight red offence for decades.

    Not really am especially defensive team right now, but the most defensively orientated of the top six, I don't see how that could be questioned really. Obviously historically with Fergie it was a very attacking side and it most certainly is not now.
     
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    Yeah well, you can always come back later. Nobody's forcing you to read it. Think it's winding down now anyhow. Just play a game of tennis elbow or something and it'll probably be clear for you to return.
     
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    Main issue is this sympathy for Man Utd stuff is just ludicrous, like people feeling sorry for Federer or Nadal or Djokovic for their powers waning or losing a match. These guys have had a career that most tennis players can only dream of (let alone people) so when a more modest player (or team) fights hard and beats them or gets a draw then people are sorry for the giant who's won everything, oh what bad luck for that absolutely spoilt rotten with success player/team. Sorry, **** off they have been incredibly lucky to have get what they got. If a minnow and take a draw or a win against them, that's credit to them. If it's two giants head to head, maybe bemoan the luck. But if Goliath loses to David you don't say poor old Goliath, you say fair play David, you've done well. Suppose it ties in with the way Arsenal fans behave about constantly getting top fourth as if it's the worst thing in the world. Bit of perspective required.
     
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    Good advice, but I'm just not in the mood for a Tennis Elbow lesson right now. How about you? Do you ever play online? This is not exactly the thread for it, but I keep it short. If you ever want a game.
     
  42. Because it's hard for big clubs to exceed expectations, it's either a satisfying but expected result or a disappointment, heartbreaker. Majority of football fans are spread across these several clubs so in the end you get this.
     
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    True I suppose, some are worse than others. Arsenal fans just about the worst for it at the moment, was watching Arsenal Fan Tv on youtube after the match last and it's ridiculous. People have their expectation too high basically, nothing wrong with optimism but most teams don't succeed in that sense most seasons and people should be able to keep this more in mind, for their own enjoyment of the sport as much as it being annoying for others but there's always sections of support like that of any club. The Liverpool fans calling for Klopp out after a couple of bad results are another example of it.
     
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    Never been able to get it to work for some reason, not sure why it is, maybe it's the mod I use isn't good for online I'm not sure. Probably would be up for a game if I ever get it working, haven't played it in quite a while though.
     
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    Looks like it is coming together for City right now. On a good run recently.

    I think that is why. The same thing happened to me when I was looking for an online game. Finally got one started, but then it wouldn't play. Noticed my opponent was using another mod. Shame that it seems too complicated and it probably isn't.
     
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    That's **** yeah, you managed to play matches though? Just a matter of getting people on the same Mod I suppose, what one are you using?
     
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    Maxou atp 2016. The links are there in the tennis elbow thread. I've experimented with a couple of other mods. The rest are missing something for me. Maxou seems to have everything covered. Even if the stats for players in 2011 are way over the top. Everything else is sweet. Now have a Sampras game going in 2009.

    That is what I thought. It has to be the mod you're using to get a game online.

    Playing against the computer is still fun, though. Think I was aiming for too much. I had it on incredible 1 for a while and was just getting blasted off the court, against the big names. That became boring. No shame to say I'm playing on master 6-10 now and I think that is my true limit. I Still have even contests and don't feel that it is too easy, compared to it being far too hard for me on incredible.

    And sorry everybody else. Here I am complaining about football and this has nothing to do with football.
     
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    Yeah that's the one I'm using actually seems pretty good really overall. Like having those snippets of commentary even though it is the same half dozen phrases that are used which gets a bit repetitive of course.

    Still on Pro 8 myself not really advanced for a while I don't think, start to think it's a bit easy at times then play someone like Nadal or Ferrer or even worse, Robredo and get destroyed most of the time and don't really want to switch skill level depending on opponent.
     
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    No comments necessary from me. Maybe next year, United might be relevant again then ;)
     
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    Well both players charged as it turns out. The right decision of course, a long ban should follow for both. But probably will be three games. Kevin Friend should probably never referee a match again. So many wrong decisions.
     

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