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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Gizo

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    Mourinho has won the league title during the second season of each of his past 5 managerial positions; Porto in 2003 (or 2004 in his second full season as he joined midway through 2001/2002), Chelsea in 2006, Inter in 2010, Real Madrid in 2012 and Chelsea again in 2015.

    With the strength in depth of Man Utd's squad already, including a lot of talented young players, and the fact that they will inevitably spend a lot of money over the summer, and I think that there is an excellent chance that he will continue that trend next season. I still think that they have underachieved in the league this season as they should have been closer to title contention with their squad and options, but I'm sure that they will be the real deal next season.

    Regarding the title race this season, I would love to see Spurs overhauling Chelsea, but I think that Chelsea will win enough points from their remaining games to hold them off. Spurs look so well balanced combining exciting attacking play with a rock solid defence, and I really hope that Pochettino stays there for a long time to come.
     
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    They made a mess of this league season, those numerous frustrating draws could have been avoided. But so far Man United aren't going in a bad direction. Youth is given a chance and great players are being brought.
     
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    Yes even in the early stage of the season when they were drawing at home to the likes of Burnley, there were still clear signs of improvement from the LVG era, i.e. getting the ball forward with more speed and creating a lot of chances, rather than sideways passing and struggling to get any shots on target.

    But regardless of their league finish, if they end the season having won both the Europa League and League Cup, which would give them more major trophies this season alone than Liverpool in the last 11 years (and more than Spurs won from 2000-2016), then I think it's been a success overall. And unlike finishing 4th, I think that winning the Europa League would give them a direct passage into the Champions League group stage without having to play qualifying round.
     
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    Agree on that. More direct, more creative, it simply felt alive most of the time. If Mourinho sets up the perfect tactics more often in the future as well like he did against Chelsea then it's a very promising future.

    About the bold part, that is correct, and the only thing that would change that is Leicester winning the Champions League. If that happens, then Manchester United, assuming they finish outside top 4 but win the Europa League, would have to play the final qualifying round, while the 4th team in England would miss out on Champions League completely.
     
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    Ah ok thanks for the information there. I have to admit that this sort of thing always confuses me !

    Regarding Leicester, since they won their first 6 matches under Shakespeare to pretty much guarantee league survival and overcome Sevilla, I think that overall it's been a successful season for them. As long as they avoided relegation, it was far more important for them to have a good run in their one and only season in the Champions League and make the most of this big dream, than it was to finish a few places higher up in the Premier League.

    They have done something which Man Utd and Chelsea haven't achieved since 2014 (3 years without a deep CL run is a long time for clubs of that size), Spurs haven't since 2011, Arsenal haven't since 2010 and Liverpool haven't since 2009, reach a Champions League quarter-final. Yes they had a easy group, but then again they've had a noticeably weaker squad and smaller wage bill than those other clubs so it all evens out. And many of those bigger clubs have messed up in easy Champions League groups over the years anyway.
     
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    Honestly I don't follow the rules myself, this is just something I read accidentally while going through football news.

    It has been a good season and after their miracle league win you couldn't blame them for whatever they did after it anyway. Shame that Ranieri got sacked, managers just can't have any breathing space in today's game.

    Those were great days when English teams were regular in final stages of CL. Maybe you ignored them on purpose but since we are talking about English teams, City reached the CL semifinal last season. Didn't think they played impressively that season at all but a newly born project like them will take all the positives from that deep run I guess.
     
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    I did ignore City on purpose due to their SF run last year, but overall the fact that they've only progressed beyond the last 16 once in the their 6 attempts is poor, given how much money they've spent on transfers and wages.

    Yes they've had some tough draws, not least being drawn in the same group as Bayern, Barcelona or Real Madrid in 5 of those 6 years, but still I think they should have made more of mark in the competition by now. The Barcelona team that beat them in 2014 for instance weren't exactly unstoppable.

    Overall since Chelsea's success in 2012, the record of Premier League teams in the Champions League has been very poor given their financial power. Assuming Leicester don't overcome Atletico, it would be just 2 semi-final appearances by Premier League teams in the past 5 years.
     
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    Come on Real
    Come on Atletico

    Gambling is bad, but I couldn't resist the 7-1 double.

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    Good night Leicester. Last eight, amazing result.
     
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    Real losing 10-0

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    Real winning 10-0

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    I'd prefer seeing his first reaction. :D
     
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    Weird how neither side scored in the first half. It's not like they didn't have several chances to do that.

    Simeone turning Atletico into a regular Champions League contender. They will make me neutral if there is an all Madrid final, just like last year. Rock solid passionate team.
     
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    Real were the team I was concerned about since they had a handy lead.

    Bet looks to be over, but the game is now on.
     
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    This became interesting
     
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    Ramos!! What a goal.

    Real are just hanging on right now.
     
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    What a game so far.
     
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    Vidal's tackling fuel used against him there. That looked like a clean tackle too.
     
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    This is ridiculous! Vidal was sent off for nothing but Casemiro is somehow still on the pitch.
     
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    Lolzz ramos
     
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    Disgusting decision. And people still have the cheek to accuse Barcelona of getting a lot of help from the referees.
     
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    Should've been sent off earlier probably but that's a terrible decision.
     
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    Bad decision, ruined a really entertaining tie.
     
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    A bit like the fa cup game with United and Chelsea. Lewandowski having to be subbed off because of the bs red.

    I'm now hoping for a shootout.
     
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    What was Kassai thinking there. It's a tragedy when supposedly best referees make those kinds of mistakes at such big stages. It was already sad when Real scrapped through last season to win the Champions League but defending that title this season would take it to a whole new level.
     
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    Now it all makes sense why Real weren't active during the most recent summer transfer window.

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    And now an offside goal.

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    That boy Ronaldo does it again.
     
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    Actually The goal was offside
     
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    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
    Seriously now, even rooting for Real, I feel terrible for Bayern. They still need only one goal to qualify, but it is tough.
     
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    Bayern is finnish
     
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    Ronaldo made 2 offside goals lol
     
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    So Bayern robbed then? King of Spain strikes again.

    Leicester out, the ****ing snakes, good to see. Means that 4th place will definitely get Champions League football so more reason to be happy with their demise. Will they ever play in the Champions League again?
     
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    The record books will show that Ronaldo undressed his opponents once more. :p

    One more time.

     
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    VAR can't come soon enough.

    Never underestimate the massive horseshoe lodged up Real Madrid's ****
     
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    A great match turned into a travesty by refereeing. Quite disheartening that such disregard for fairness of the result is normal in football.:(Everyone who watched the game knows this wasn't a fair result, but all there's to do is to accept that and move on.

    So sorry for Bayern. Their effort was worth more than that.
     
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    I will say it again

    Anyone believes Barca is gonna make another comeback?
     
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    The ref was a total joke. Took all the joy away from me as a Real supporter. The talk about this 2nd leg won't end in a long time because of all the horrible decisions. What could have been a tie for the ages is now one of the lowest points of the Champions League instead. One of those extremely rare moments when I am ashamed to have supported the winning side.

    Big respect to Bayern. In my opinion they behaved like crybabies in a few previous Champions League seasons when things weren't going their way, but tonight when they have probably never been a bigger victim in their history, their behavior was absolute class, and I hope this group of players wins this competition in the near future.
     
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    5th Ballon d'Or incoming because only this genius could score two offside goals in one match. Both in extra time, meaning they are extremely important goals.

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    Ok, end rant. Sorry everybody.
     
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    Wow. That is brutal.

    Don't let Paul Ince hear this.

    I do agree, even though Ince was complaining like some stone age geezer, the actual video did help with 2 wrong decisions in the match he was watching. How the hell can this be bad?
     
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    And let's not forget at 0-1, Lewandowski should have been clear on goal but that time the assistant called non-existent offside. Don't know about Casemiro staying on the pitch but Vidal's red card was a joke.

    Comical really. Robben's cynical laugh during extra time sums it up, all Bayern's effort gone to waste, and they did absolutely nothing bad to deserve it. I hope this will be a stain on Real for a very long time even if they don't win the Champions League in the end. Disgraceful.
     
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    I would not expect it.
     
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    Paul Ince will be happy that the match has more wrong decision talking points that he can talk about. :confused:

    Aint that right, Darlin?
     
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    Xabi Alonso played the last Champions League game of his career. When subbed off in the 2nd half, the Spaniard got a standing ovation from the entire Santiago Bernabeu.

    He didn't manage to become only the second player in history to win the Champions League with three different clubs. Won it with Liverpool in 2005, won it with Real Madrid in 2014, but didn't repeat that success in Bayern Munich.

    Legend

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    A man of many talents. A great comedian.

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    But but we would lose all the talking points for down the pub.

    That is what makes football a great game apparently or something
     
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    Typical big time Charlie talk. Absolute bollocks.
     
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    A ridiculous set of refereeing decisions in Real's favour again. I don't usually subscribe to conspiracy theories, but both Real and Barca keep getting helping hands from the referees time after time in European matches, it can't be a co-incidence. Uefalona and Uefadrid for sure. It's not one club or the other, it's both of them.

    I don't Bayern like much, but out of Europe's modern day big 3 of Real, Barca and them, they are easily the most likeable club. They do everything properly off the pitch, they make a profit every year without fail (24 years in a row and counting), they don't have any debt (playing off all of their stadium costs something like 16 years early), they don't have any unfair financial advantages in Germany (the Bundesliga TV money is spread quite fairly) and they treat their fans well with cheapest ticket prices out of Europe's big clubs (even cheaper than Dortmund I believe).

    That's in sharp contrast Barca and Real who are both so reckless financially racking up large debts and have indulged in a lot of dodgy dealings and creative accounting over the years, whether it has been the Neymar transfer in Barca's case or a Real's deal with the Madrid council over their training ground. And they both benefit from a series of unfair financial advantages in Spain which have aided them in Europe as Joan Laporta admitted a few times, a ridiculous distrubution of Spanish TV money , state aid (not always legal), dodgy tax breaks, and very cosy relationships with the local banks. Barca have need to take out bank loans to pay their players' wages in recent years which is ridiculous for a club their size, and Real Madrid have taken out bank loans to fund spending sprees.

    I despise both clubs and to me their success is partially tainted. If both clubs were forced to run their finances responsibly like Bayern do, I doubt they'd be racking up so many Champions League titles in recent years.

    Rant over.
     
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    Kind of unfair that Barca haven't scored a single goal yet, they had several opportunities in both games. Juve pretty much safe after not conceding in the first half.

    Monaco looking awesome. 2-0 at home and 5-2 on aggregate at the moment.
     
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    Hot damn Neymar what skills.
     

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