Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.
Get rekt Barca.
The crowd was amazing during the extra time
That semifinal line-up is going to make me sick. The good old days when English and Milan clubs were competing at such level are as old as dinosaurs now.
This Monaco team are so beautiful.
Hope they pull off the French title.
Why do I feel we are going to get Bayer Leverkusen 2002 all over again.
2 teams chasing their first European cup. Plus one of the giants of Europe trying to end a 20 year title drought. What is not to love (bar the odious Real)
Hopefully Real Madrid-Juve final with Madrid winning 11-1. 10 goals for Ronaldo (9 + an own goal).
Loved the response from the Camp Nou. Our players aren't going to dominate anymore but if anyone deserved an applause during a bit tougher times, it's them. And the crowd was smart and classy enough to realize that.
I don't think the scoreline does justice, we had a few chances in both matches. But anyway, congratulations to Juventus. Clearly the better team over the two legs.
As for the remainder of this competition, it seems like I will be on anyone except Real bandwagon even though I don't want to sound like that. Disgraceful what happened last night plus it would mean much more to other three teams to win this competition. Atletico and Monaco are still looking for their first, Juventus are on a 20 year long drought. If there is karma, justice, whatever it's called, one of these three clubs should win this Champions League.
It's a beautiful scene. We've got all sorts of potential great story-lines and the beautiful villains of football still alive and kicking, ready to take out all that other crappy trash. Glorious.
We've got heroes and villains ready to rock and in the case of the heroes roll over like chumps.
Monaco have done Ligue 1 proud this season more than Paris have in the last 5-6. What a goalscoring machine they are. I hope they hold on in the French league if they lose in one of the next two rounds of CL. They lead PSG on goal difference with a game in hand. 5 or 6 games to go.
Unfortunately I agree with that. Winning it in the previous season was already a bit sad from the neutral perspective, but if this Real were the first to defend the title after several IMO better teams failed to do, it would be even worse. There is a good chance that I will still cheer for them though so this speech will make me sound so fake.
God bless the Europa League. Can be used as escapism after the CL delivers such horrific nights. And of course I am not saying this because we are in that competition, no no, not at all, honest.
Arsenal should hire Jardim.
Please explain your grudge against the other 3 teams.
Juve easy to hate with their history I suppose. Although hardly alone in that regard.
Their 96 title should have been stripped.
Just like 2016 we need Real Madrid to remind us that life is **** and fundamentally unfair.
Trump out lol
Indeed. McLeod sent him packing.
It's more about the quarterfinal ties not going the way I wanted. Always preferred Barca and Dortmund over Juve and Monaco respectively. Atletico are ok though I am not optimistic about them, two times already they worked so hard only to be denied by Real. It's just brutal unfairness with them in the Champions League, could have easily had three but instead they still have zero.
Shocking week for the officials. The game going ahead so quickly last week and blind judges last night.
Get your act together.
True. Conceded a 120th minute equalizer in the first, then 90+ minute equalizer in the second, then penalty shootout loss in the third final.
We all picture some what if scenarios at some point after a disappointing loss, but just imagine what Atletico Madrid fans have gone through.
Very impressive for Juventus to keep 2 clean sheets. Snooker had my attention tonight. Didn't see any of the football and I wasn't picturing another miracle. Juventus are for real.
4 great teams in the semis! Whatever the draw, we're in for some great ties.
I'd like to see a Juventus v Monaco final personally.
Would me nice to watch.
Team of the season has been announced.
Walker, Luiz, Cahill, Rose
Hazard, Kante, Alli, Mane
Looks good, apart from the defence...
Moses and Alonso have been much better than Rose/Walker (Trippier has looked better than Walker when's he played!)
I'd of had Alderweireld and Azpilicueta in over Cahill and Luiz too if i'm being honest. Maybe they thought that pairing was a bit of a mouthful
De Gea and Hazard making the team of the season for the fourth time, both missing out on it only once since they arrived in the Premier League. Super consistent quality.
Absolutely. Let's hope they're both still in England next season so they can add to it.
Oh, Paul. Oh, Henri.
A dangerous game now. A good game.
Rashford showing his inexperience with that wasted opportunity. Had more time than he thought. Don't always have to be at 100mph.
That was some peak Pro Evo stuff there. Shame it didn't end with a goal.
Half time in extra time. More chances wasted. Best of luck to Ibra. Part of me wants to see a penalty shootout. Push the nerves to the limit and all that. Another way to prove that I am still alive.
haha I love it when that happens. Inspiring words. Rashford delivers. No penalties. Still nerves because of the one goal advantage.
Thanks to Rashford's brilliance I didn't turn into an atheist tonight.
I think Lyon is the favourite to win the EL
You cannot be serious Man United. What should have been a straightforward tie you managed to complicate it to the max. So many chances wasted in both legs, and Anderlecht could have even scored the 2nd away goal if it wasn't for Romero's knee save. But more importantly I hope Rojo and Ibrahimovic didn't suffer a serious injury. With such a tight schedule no injury setback is welcome, and they don't deserve them for all the effort put this season in multiple competitions. Never tanked in any of them and I respect that.
It's a pity I didn't see other games. Three out of four quarterfinal ties went at least to extra time. Tough to find any other season where that happened.
Zlatan injury looks terrible not looking good
Madness. The one thing that I really love about the Europa League is the unpredictability. Different fields almost every year, there are hardly any regular participants. Sevilla skewed it a bit in the last decade but my point stands. Tonight literally all four ties could have gone the other way.
Genk and Celta played a 1-1 draw. The Belgians pushed for the winning goal that would have put them through after a 3-2 away loss but Celta held on. This team is midtable in La Liga so they won't be playing European football next season unless they go all the way in this Europa League.
Schalke managed to force extra time against Ajax (2-0 for the hosts in both legs). Then they took a 3-0 lead in the 1st extra period. Remarkably, despite being down to 10 men going to extra time, Ajax scored two away goals in the 2nd extra period to go through. Heroic response by the Eredivisie side.
As expected, Besiktas created a typical south European atmosphere in the 2nd leg against Lyon. A mirror 2-1 result forced extra time and then penalties. One of the best penalty shootouts I have seen in European competitions, goalkeepers read many takers but couldn't keep it out. 12 consecutive pens scored, then three missed, and after that Lyon converted their second match point.
And what else to say about Manchester United. Why do it simple when we can complicate it is most probably the club's motto nowadays. Catastrophically wasteful, this might be the best example all season. Basically yet another Old Trafford draw when not counting extra time. I really fear for Ibra and Rojo, hope they will be ok. With speculation about Ibra not extending his contract for another year it would really suck if his Man United and European chapter ended with an injury. His contribution was massive, and he deserves a standing ovation for it. Legendary player. Anyway, Rashford is a freaking genius! We must hold on to this kid, he is unreal.
Can't really say which team I'd like us to draw. Improvements are a must though, the next tight encounter could well go in our opponent's favor.
Such a sad way for the season to end for Ibra. I'm just picturing the worst. Never wise to show how tough you are in situations like this. Get on that stretcher.
I'd like to think so. That way I can make some coin on the reds.
That was a very nervy Man United performance, hope its not a serious injury for Zlatan
The guy responsible for what happened to BVB got caught tonight..
And i promise you won't believe the story behind what happened:
A couple of weeks ago, the guy went to his bank and wanted a credit ( i think i heard 80.000€) ...
The bank gave him the money and he rented a suite in the BVB team hotel ( where they sleep the night before matches).
He rented the suite for 3-4 weeks and lived the whole month since the beginning of april in the suite.
His window = direct view to the place he placed 3 b... ( i don't write this word hahaha)
he then used the money and placed a stock market-bid on falling price of shared on the bvb quotation ( they are the only team listed in the stock exchange in germany) + he placed a bet on " deaths" among bvb staff!
He " made" 2 millions with the " help" of the credit from his bank and the bets.
He pushed the button being in his suite IN the bvb hotel just looking outside his window.
So basically, he wanted to k i l l
People to win a BET
I have no words for this
Rest in peace Ugo Ehiogu.
The draws are out.
In the Champions League, we are now guaranteed a Madrid team in the final as Real drew Atletico. First leg at the Bernabeu. Monaco will play Juventus, first leg at Stade Louis II.
The formal hosts of the final will be the winners of Monaco-Juventus clash, that match will be played at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff.
In the Europa League, Manchester United drew Celta de Vigo and for the third round in a row, the return leg will be at Old Trafford. Ajax will play Lyon, first leg at Amsterdam Arena.
The formal hosts of the final will be the winners of Ajax-Lyon clash, that match will be played at the Friends Arena in Solna, just north of Stockholm.
Shocking news about Ehiogu.
Ibrahimovic out for the rest of the season. 28 goals and 10 assists in 46 appearances are the final numbers for this 35 year old in his first season in England. The team will gain more pace with him out but anyone questioning his abilities is silenced now. He scores when he wants, where he wants, because he is Zlatan. Honestly I hope he will stay for one more year.
His entire 2017 could be over, terrible news. Haven't seen someone with such a great combination of charisma and quality put on a Man United shirt in a very long time. Ibra didn't deserve such an ending.
Gutted for him. Played a huge part in helping United get towards where we want them to be. 30 is the new 20 and all that. But he went beyond my wildest dreams. Cruel ol game sometimes.
Sad news about Ugo Ehiogu only 44.
In other news it sounds like Paul Scholes has been smoking a little bit of crack. Rashford has the potential to be a world star like Neymar? Maybe in a future life if he's reincarnated into a better player. Maybe he could be the new Theo Walcott, that's a more realistic aim, and it would be a good career.
Fair play, he has been excellent. Don't think many were doubting his ability but I admit I was one that thought that coming into the League at 35 after several years in a weaker French League might be difficult to come in and set it alight. Obviously wasn't going to quite carry those numbers over but he has been crucial for the success your guys have had this season. Will be interesting to see how you do without him (although to be honest your reserves would probably win the Europa League). Has to be signing of the season.
Hopefully Atletico Juventus final in the Champions League. Atletico been so close in recent years (what was it two minutes away the other year?) and 3 finals lost or something like that, be good for them to get over the line. Although probably wouldn't be the best match, never liked Real Madrid and with Monaco being the tax haven it is I can't root for either side. Although footballing-wise probably the capacity to be the most exciting.
Manchester United's signing of the season or Premier League in general? Because I would say Kante and Mane have contributed massively as well to their respective teams.
I'd like that final too. Though to my knowledge Monaco haven't spent now as much as 3-4 years ago when they got back to Ligue 1. They went on a real spending spree back then straight after achieving promotion, that's when the Falcao deal happened. Hardly any superstar names in this squad, but it's crazy how many goals they are scoring. 90 in France and a lot in CL as well, 3 in each one of knockout round matches so far, now it's a real test against the best defense of all. They are more likely to become a feeder club than some new force in Europe.
I'm on the Juventus bandwagon.
I would say as a whole. Those two have been fantastic also but the fact he was on a free puts him ahead for me. Absolutely no question about being Man Utd's player of the season.
Yeah I think they reigned in their spending, but I mean in general speaking of Monaco itself as a sort of tax haven. Fantastic side to watch though it has to be said. as you say score so many goals. One imagines a few of those players could be getting some big moves in the summer.
Monaco are an upper-class Southampton.
Do you think the competition is that weak, or that Man United are too strong for it, or both?
Fun weekend coming up. Unlike a lot of people around me I have always liked to watch English teams, and two derbies in the FA Cup semifinals will be a real treat. Then El Clasico on a Sunday evening. It's a shame we probably won't win the title even if we beat Real away from home but we have only ourselves to blame for that.
Kante has been excellent, but I have to admit, Alonso was probably the better signing last summer. Something I could never imagine myself saying last August!
Put Fabregas next to Matic and it's still a good combination. Take Alonso out the team? Yeah, it all falls apart. Hazard is on his own down the left, he has to track back and help in defense, Azpilicueta has to move back there etc.. When one of the wing backs is missing, it's essentially losing 3 players, not to mention the effect it has on the system and the team from front to back.
I'm still scratching my head how Rose got in the team of the year ahead of him.
RIP Ehiogu. A top quality defender on the pitch and a nice guy off it. A tragedy for him to die at the young age of 44. He had a excellent defensive partnership with Southgate both at Villa and at Middlesbrough
I don't mind who wins the Champions League as long as it isn't the forces of evil that are Real Madrid. A truly despicable footballing club who benefit from a whole lot of unfair advantages.
The other 3 clubs winning it would be great story. Juventus, arguably the biggest underachievers in European Cup/Champions League history to only win the tournament twice despite reaching so many finals and dominating Serie A historically, could finally win another title. I used to hate them in the 90s and early 00s but now I don't mind them. Monaco play attacking, attractive football and have been racking up the goals all season. A first time winner and a French winner (French clubs have a pathetic record in European competitions generally) would be cool. Or Atletico have come agonisingly close to winning this competition on 3 occasions in 1974, 2014 and 2016, so it would be great to see them finally crossing the finishing line.
While Juventus are the biggest underachievers in Champions League history, Man Utd are arguably the biggest underachievers across all European club competitions, so a Europa League win would be good for their trophy cabinet. They have 'only' won 4 major trophies, which is actually a pretty poor return for such a huge football club. Arsenal are also underachievers with just 1 Cup Winners' Cup and 1 Inter City fairs cup (which UEFA don't even count as an official tournament I think) in their history.
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