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  1. TheAssassin

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    It takes some time to win even with spending. In the last three summers the only big names Real Madrid brought were Kroos and James while reuniting with Morata, but great results have finally arrived, the rest of the squad that arrived long time ago have built some great chemistry. I thought that even when you are at the very top reinforcements for the next season are a must, but this Real Madrid seem to be an exception. Man United need some patience like Madrid, if the club or some stars in the team have an average season, there is no need to panic, it will get better. Selling Di Maria after just one year was one of the biggest mistakes we ever did. The great brand and financial power of Manchester United will guarantee world class transfers most of the time, even in these periods of struggle. But it would be foolish to expect dominance to happen over night.
     
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    Griezmann confirms he won't be leaving Atletico this summer. Damn you transfer ban.

    Getting linked with Real Madrid players now, Bale and James. Not sure they are the players we really need at this point...
     
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    Well Colombians overhype Rodriguez like Mexicans did with chicharito!
     
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    Poor Juventus get smashed once more. Wouldn't have won much, but United and Real were my tips for euro glory this season.

    Real are just that damn good.

    Nah, mate. Overrating him big time here. He would be lucky to get a game for Chesterfield reserves. :D
     
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    I understand what Ronnie means about Galactico and that is fair enough. He is a Galactico to me. Superstar player.

    Didn't even get to see a lot of the final last night. Crap when things happen. Such is life.

    Watch some of the Carrick match tonight.

    Giggs whips it in and Vidic heads it in. Flashbacks running wild. Good times.

    Sky and their best 11 not to win the champions league.
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    I hope so. I want this cycle of Spanish dominance in the CL to come to an end sooner rather than later. Real were definitely worth winners this year (although they were lucky to get past Bayern in the quarters), while they were lucky as hell to win it last year. Then again they were clearly the best team in Europe in 2011/2012, and were unlucky that a Clasico title decider at the Camp Nou was sandwiched in-between their 2 CL semi-final matches against Bayern.

    I just despise both Barca and Real. I think that the unfair advantages that they benefit from in Spain, the lopsided distribution of TV money, state aid (some of it deemed to be illegal), dodgy tax breaks and cosy relationships with the banks, have helped both of them a lot in the Champions League. Laporta admitted that if La Liga had a more equitable distribution of TV money like the Premier League or Bundesliga, then both Barca and Real would have found it far more difficult to win so many CL titles in recent years, and he's 100% right.

    And both clubs are dodgy to the core, with Real Madrid's notorious training ground deal with the Madrid city council and receiving loans from banks bailed out by the EU to buy Bale from Spurs, or Barca's never-ending Neymar transfer scandal, or the fact that they received bank loans to pay their players' wages and cover their overdraft during the middle of their Guardiola golden era (the summer of 2010 when they were openly tapping up Fabregas from Arsenal). Barca probably made an overall financial loss during the Guardiola reign, which is just disgraceful for a club of their stature and global appeal.

    It must be frustrating for clubs like Bayern who do everything fairly and by the book (making profits every year, not having a penny of debt and treating their fans so well with such cheap ticket prices) and don't rely on unfair advantages with TV money or state aid in Germany, to lose to dodgy clubs like these two in the CL.

    To me the beauty of La Liga isn't Barca or Real. It's Athletic Bilbao with their cantera policy being so successful and never getting relegating, or the small-town, debt-free Villarreal punching above their weight for so many years, or Alaves this season finishing 9th and reaching a Copa Del Rey with a squad that cost 5.5 million euros to put together, or Sevilla's amazing transfer business and youth development spear-headed by their amazing sporting director Monchi (who has now joined Roma), or Levante qualifying for the Europa League and doing well there a few years ago with the smallest budget in La Liga.
     
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    I wouldn't call it luck against bayern. I wasn't impressed with Bayern. I thought they would bring more to the table.
     
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    Welcome to strong competition, Bayern. :D They haven't been challenged in the Bundesliga for years now, and just in case that happens, they simply love buying from their domestic opponents, making all the biggest talent concentrated in one place. For sure it's fun watching other teams against each other but seeing Bayern win either by 5+ goals or thanks to injury time winners is quite boring.

    What happened in the 2nd leg against Bayern was really bad. I honestly felt like Real would have had a good shot at progressing even without the red card and the offside goal. They got outplayed in Munich and it was all to play for at home. Would have been one of the most convincing CL wins of all time and a great response after last year's win that was questioned. Easy draw back then, but Napoli, Bayern, Atletico and Juventus now, that's difficult. Anyway, Bayern were outclassed by Spanish teams in the previous three seasons. Clearly inferior to Real and Barca. Even Atletico knocked them out.
     
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    In Bayern's defense, they didn't know that red cards are given for clean tackles and that offside rules don't apply for Madrid. :D
     
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    The red card wa legit in the first match. That was clearly a red already haven gotten a yellow. It could have been worse
     
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    Yes it was offside but what can you do? I didn't see much from Bayern offensively.
     
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    Dabberific celebration for his equalising goal.
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    In the first match, yes. Clear red. In the second, hell no.
    Nemanja ooo
     
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    Well if Bayern followed Barca and Real's example and monopolised the German TV money and were backed by generous and illegal state aid from the Bavarian state government, that would help them close the gap :D

    Their Bundesliga dominance is boring, but it is the result of their hard work and superb management both on the pitch and off it, where they have been in the black financially 24 years in a row. Barcelona on the other hand lost money during their Guardiola treble winning year and were panicking about having to pay the increased prize money bonuses LOL. Bayern have had the perfect balance between ambition and financial prudence, and only spend the money that they have generated, not needing loans from bailed out banks to fund spending sprees like Real Madrid. It would be interesting to see how successful Barca and Real were in comparision if they were forced to operate in the same sensible way, like most businesses are. But of course everything in Spain is set up to favour them both.

    As I said before Bundesliga TV money is spread quite evenly, and unlike Real, Bayern haven't built up huge debts of hundreds of millions of euros and then had to go begging their city council to come to their rescue. And unlike Barca they haven't needed Bavarian banks to loan them money to pay their players' wages.

    It's not an even or fair playing field when clubs like Barcelona especially and Real Madrid to a lesser extent can operate so recklessly and get away with it, knowing that their city council, local government, and local banks will bail them out. Definitely tainted success in my opinion.

    2 of Ronaldo's goals at the Bernabeu were offside and Casemiro should also have been sent off. Bayern were robbed that night, but then again it was Javi Martinez's fault with his 2 stupid yellow cards that they lost in Munich in the first place.
     
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    Epic celebrations at the full Santiago Bernabeu happening as we speak.
    Campeones campeones ole ole ole
    Hala Madrid y nada mas...

    Ronnie's new haircut is kinda hilarious.
    Just posting the gifs so they can be found here for future use, don't mind me. :D
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    Another day, another Ballon d'Or for Ronald'Or.
     
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    Lukaku seems to of hinted he's agreed terms with Chelsea. Not that it means anything, the fee with Everton was always going to be the hardest part to agree upon.
     
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    Though he was never known for scoring, I remembered this player mostly for the volley that rescued a point for Newcastle against Arsenal after being 0-4 down. Happened 6-7 years ago. Played several years for Newcastle until leaving for China. He died yesterday during training, suffering a cardiac arrest.

    RIP Cheick Tiote
     
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    The Zlatan Ibrahimovic news has been confirmed. He will not be with Man United next season.

    What is the 411 on Morata? Can you picture him being the leading man?
     
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    Morata has been growing, 2016-17 was his best season to date. No longer just a bench warmer in Real Madrid, scoring 20 goals for the first time, second only to Ronnie.

    But I am not very confident on him being the leading man. Can't see him scoring as much as Zlatan and we struggled for goals even with him. For that reason, and to not rely on one individual, I'd say we should get another one of Morata's caliber, not just him.

    I bet Real Madrid will ask for a lot of money though, especially after spending 30 million to get him back from Juventus.
     
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    I didn't expect Real to consider selling Morata. They just bought him back, and with fading Benzema and injury-prone Bale I thought Morata had a secured future.

    Wouldn't surprise me if Hazard ends up playing for you, with Ronaldo playing as a striker all the time.
     
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    Anyone watching Euro qualifications?

    Lloris kicked the ball away when he was out of position and Sweden's player hit it from the halfway line to score a 93rd minute winner. :D This puts Sweden above France in their group.

    Andorra won their first game in 13 years, 1-0 win against Hungary. Puskas must be turning in his grave.
    That would be scary.
     
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    In the 70s I expected Scotland to beat England. So much has changed.
     
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    So close yet so far...
     
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    I still cant believe what I just saw. He kicks it into the corner and its over. Shocking.
     
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    GAWA with one of those lovely injury time steals. Showing Man Utd the way. :p
     
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    Fee for Linedolof to Man Utd has been agreed. All about him agreeing and getting a work permit.
     
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    Hopefully Jose's nose for defenders was good again. Bailly was the least loud and known name last summer but has been excellent in his first season IMO. Could be a great defensive duo if Lindelof turns out to be the same.
     
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    Glorious. What a team Michael has created.

    Favourites to reach the play offs now. A lucky draw there and we might somehow go to the world cup.
     
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    Looks like Bakayoko to Chelsea will be done early next week too. Thought Man City were the only ones who knew the window was open for awhile :p

    I only saw the Scotland and England highlights (destroying the Aussies in the cricket took precedent), crazy end to the game!
     
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    No doubt about it. I love it.

    Was funny yesterday down at the pub. Paul Ince would have enjoyed the conversation. Me (sober) and a bunch of drunks. Trying to explain to me that Northern Ireland are already there if they manage to finish second. I didn't stand a chance. But yeah, hopefully they do understand that there is a playoff involved. Strength of group matters not, drunkards! Stop drinking and realize what year it is and so on. :p
     
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    I had my eyes on the Northern Ireland game. The other TV in the place had Sctoland and England on. I was thinking of a new Joe Hart/ Benny Hill video in my mind when the second went in. :p
     
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    I have long thought Bradley was past it at this level but that goal was sublime.
     
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    Haha it wasn't the best! Apparently no club has come in for him yet either. It wasn't the best audition, but I can't believe he won't be playing next season.
     
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    Welcome to Manchester.



    Been hearing he will have to drop his wages by 75k if he wants to go to West Ham on loan. Pep really did a number on him. :p
     
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    Another 30 million player I hardly ever watched. It was a similar case with Bailly though I knew him before from some La Liga games. Here is hoping it's going to be a rock solid and very long center back partnership.

    Let's see who is next.
     
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    Looking forward to seeing what Lindelof can do. He is another one of my old football manager starlets.

    Gianluigi Donnarumma has the interest of Real Madrid and he will not signing a new deal with Milan. His current deal runs out at the end of next season. Apparently, he is on 2.5k a week at Milan and his agent is looking 80k a week for his next deal.PSG are interested in him as well. Since his deal runs out at the end of next season, you would think he will be on his way over the summer. Can understand the bitterness felt by Milan right now. Real are favorites for his signature. That is good news for United. Don't want to lose David DeGea.

    Just did some more research. Now it says that Donnarumma is willing to sign a new deal as long as there is a release clause in his contract.

    We shall see.
     
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    Sky Sports Italia saying Conte is frustrated, could end up leaving.

    Some rumors that Ronaldo wants to leave Madrid. Every single summer he is unsettled according to the media. I am afraid that one day soon he won't stay in Madrid or return to Manchester but end up somewhere else. That would be ugly to see. :(

    Summer transfer window can be very annoying.
     
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    Not sure why the club are making a big deal of it. Same thing happened at Juventus, so they knew what they were getting. After last season, he's more than earned the right to do things how he wants imo.
     
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    I read that on BBC. Maybe it's not just a rumor this time.

    Still it wouldn't surprise me if the potential saga ends in him signing a new, more valuable contract... Again.
     
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    Well that's not good. The number of times I switched between wanting him to return to Manchester and wanting him to stay in Madrid is countless. Pretty sure whatever decision he makes is the one I wouldn't like in that moment. :oops:

    To be fair there was suspense going on with some of Messi's contract extensions as well. ;)
     
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    If he returns he will not make the same contribution he did for Manchester a decade ago. He is older and slower now while Manchester United are weaker as well. He has been phenomenal and has proven me wrong so many times but making the EPL crowd go wild again is not happening. Anyway it looks like he and Messi have more things in common than we thought. He's been accused of tax fraud as well. :p
     
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    These tax cheats need to spend time in lock up like the rest of us commoners.

    Not a sweat of Ronaldo coming back to United. -100% chance by my calculations. We don't need a number 9 since we're getting Morata. :p

    Everton getting the cheque book out. 2 big signings so far.
     
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    Yeah, I agree. Chelsea behaving like Conte is big Phil Scolari.
     
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    I am not sure about either. Were your calculations on Griezmann any good? :p
     
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    That was a rare off day for me. :p

    -100 is a bit extreme. According to reports, his mind is made up and nothing will change it so he will be going somewhere and United would have to be one of the possibilities. Even if my calculations say something else.

    This is from the BBC article about teams that could get the funds together.

    ''Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Bayern Munich and Juventus would have the financial resources to put together a competitive offer within the realms of Financial Fair Play rules.''

    Then we have the China money.

    Ronny to make Arsenal great again? :D I wonder why PSG are not mentioned with the other teams. Surely they would be one of the options.

    At this minute, if I had to bet I'd bet on him staying at Real Madrid.
     
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    I think Chelsea have done extremely well the last 5 years or so, with the loan system especially. That seems to be the reason the club doesn't want to shake things up, but I can't see why Conte would want to change anything in that department. His concerns seem to be how slow we are in the transfer market (something I've been saying for years).

    We left things late last summer, zero activity in January (big mistake) and we're dragging our feet missing out on players that could of had deals in place before the end of the season, or at least moved a lot quicker than we seem to be doing. Bakayoko seemed like it was done months back, but it's dragging on, too slow with Van Dijk (the price for both players has shot up with interest from Man Utd and Liverpool respectively). Verratti was flirting with Conte in January but we weren't aggressive and now Barcelona have him. The club are still deciding what to do with Costa and Lukaku for £100 Million? I can see why Conte is pulling his hair (transplant) out :eek:
     
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    Surely he wouldn't join one of our Premier League rivals. :oops: Not sure how Ronnie would do in other clubs at this point of his career but he couldn't possibly leave on a bigger high than this if the transfer happens this summer.
     
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    So Ronaldo's a ******** eh? Who knew, wanting to leave because he's been caught out for being a tax cheat.

    You're the highest paid athlete in the world, pay your ****ing tax like the rest of us.
     
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    We'll see, wouldn't be the first time it was a false accusation. And I am sure you want Cristiano in England so it would be less likely for him to win more Ballon d'Ors. ;)
     

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