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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

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    Surely Chelsea won't snatch him away now...

    It would be a solid signing. But man I am going to miss Rooney when he leaves. :(
     
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    I for one won't miss Rooney, lost respect for him when he tried to hold the club to ransom years back.
     
  3. TheAssassin

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    They won't. The transfer to Manchester United, it's happening.

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    It's always sad seeing one of club legends leaving. Luckily I think we will cope with that, Rooney hasn't been a regular starter in the last year anyway. Clearly not as amazing as he once was. Shame he declined so early, personally I wanted him to break Shearer's record.
     
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    I think Lukaku is a good signing for Man Utd. They need goals and he's got a good record on that front.

    I didn't want him back at Chelsea, I feel he goes missing and doesn't have the nasty streak that you need to lead the line in a Chelsea side (Drogba, Costa). There are rumours about Sanchez, but as good a player as he is, I feel the team in general would lose something with him as the focal point.

    I don't know if there is a player out there who has the DNA to fill that role, maybe Belotti, I've not seen enough of him. Either way, the way the Costa situation has been handled is the biggest disappointment for me personally.
     
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    And yeah. Think it is safe for Y'all to go down and get Lukaku on the back of your United shirts. :D
    Lukaku is too nice for Chelsea. I like that. That is some good spin. :p

    I would have been sounding a bit like Michael Owen earlier. He gave a message about Lukaku the other day, saying he isn't convinced by him. He got the usual witty replies. I can see where he is coming from though. Maybe he is talking about the big games or whatever.

    I must not have been paying attention. Didn't realise his scoring record is as good as it is.
     
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    In a way he is yeah! When you think of the Chelsea strikers in the Abramovich era it's been Drogba, Costa, Shevchenko and Torres. Only two of them have been a success.

    Centre backs know they're going to be battered and bruised all game, most often in the big games. Think of Drogba against Barcelona year after year, Costa single handedly turning the game against City away last Christmas etc.. Lukaku isn't that.

    I don't think the way Man Utd are playing at the moment requires that skill set, they definitely need goals though and he's got that nailed down. So good signing I think.
     
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    I know what you're saying. Doesn't matter how good somebody is. If they don't fit the system then ther talent might not be allowed to shine. Lionel Messi might not fit in at Oldham Athletic. United have Fellaini doing the Costa job. :p

    Looking forward to seeing Lukaku in action for United. Unless there is some last minute sabotage that spoils the deal.
     
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    Looks like Rooney will join Everton very soon. I wish he was in the squad against Real Madrid in the Super Cup...

    Hopefully I'll be able to catch some of the pre-season.

    Is it just me or does the boss look skinnier and spent more than ever? :oops:

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    Why? So the defeat can be blamed on this now championship level quality of player being in the side rather than Madrid being much better?

    He sure does, past his sell by date. Jose Mourinho, best before: August 2015. Although I think the seeds of his decline were already in place before then.

    He'd have been a completely different striker to your usual powerful target man. Though to look at him he looks like that but really isn't that sort of player, that's Mourinho's type of striker too so maybe he's forgotten that he isn't that.

    If you got Sanchez they might as well hand Chelsea the title now. Best player in the League for me, Sanchez and Hazard in the same team would be ridiculous.
     
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    Deal to Everton done. Wayne Rooney returns.

    Jose doesn't look worryingly thin or anything. Less weight is good as we get older. Can't have those stunning greasy locks forever. Better to have peaked and lost than never to have peaked at all.
     
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    Lots of players came and left during his time here. 13 amazing years. A record 253 goals. Over 100 assists. 6th most appearances - 559. Incredible work rate. For me, a greater player of the club than Ronnie. Easily one of the best ever players to wear a Manchester United shirt. Thanks for the memories Wazza.
    Rooney isn't championship level quality. And unlike some ungrateful Man United fans, I hardly ever pointed fingers at him for some bad result. The reason I wanted him to be present for the European Super Cup is because that's the only trophy he didn't win. All other trophies, at domestic, European and world level, he has won them. For sure Madrid are clear favorites but Manchester can cause an upset. Safe to say they have quality of a Champions League team so the difference isn't as colossal as when European champions meet some regular Europa League participant like Sevilla, Portuguese, Russian teams and so on in this Super Cup. This is a clash between the two biggest giants, it could well be a Champions League derby in the quarterfinals next year...

    We'll see. I think he recently said he's at a halfway point of his coaching career. Potential for a lot more success especially since he will always find a job at some big club.
     
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    Signing a player on sentiment is never a good idea. He's not a good player any more and Everton are now a pretty good side, not to mention the wages they will need to pay him, bought pretty well other than that though. Their place as best of the rest seems like it'll be even more firmly entrenched next season but I can't see them breaking into the top six barring a very poor season from one of the others.
     
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    There is sentiment and there is sentiment. I don't think he has reached that stage of sentiment yet.He is a good player. Having that sort of player in the changing room can be useful. He's not going to make them worse. Looks like money isn't an issue to Everton.
     
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    Been a great player I know that, and I do think it's pretty bad the lack of appreciation by some Man Utd fans for him considering what he's achieved. But he is past it now, maybe he's above Championship level quality, maybe a Swansea or a Brighton or something could be an ok level for him, but not a side who wants to break into the top 6 and beyond as Everton do. Think they're making a mistake.

    Well if Mourinho does a good old bus parking special they could nick it against Madrid to be fair.

    If he's at the halfway point now, the second half is not going to be favourable. The game has moved on without him, if he doesn't win a title with Man Utd, which I don't think he will, then the top level offers are going to dry up. Don't think he has the humility to take a drop to a smaller club and prove he's still got it, so once those offers dry up I think he'll give it up.

    Don't think he's very good anymore, can't see him getting into their first team even if they don't sign a replacement for Lukaku, but he does bring experience and a winning mentality from winning nearly everything that he could win, so on that front he could be good for the young players and what not. Does that make it a price worth paying, I know he's on a free but the wages will be huge even if they are not as much as he has been on seems like it could be better spent elsewhere.
     
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    Everton are building something. Several signings already.
     
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    I think Rooney will easily hit double figures of goals in the next Premier League season. Won't be a goal machine for them like Lukaku was but he will do well. He will also have some solid players around him to make it easier. I just hope they won't put him as a central midfielder, he does have some of the best passing skills among strikers but that's just not his position.

    Madrid are good at breaking buses. Actually they are good at breaking anything. Whatever tactic Mourinho chooses it's going to be hard to execute. Real have no major holes in the team right now. Only Barcelona remain a thorn for them somewhat but Manchester United don't have the players to play that style right now.

    The guy has easily found a job even after the recent meltdown he had in Chelsea, and he will never have a low like that again. For me it's safe to say that his future is brighter than for a lot of other big names. After all he's had big underdog triumphs at Porto and Inter so I don't think he has any points to prove nor that he would be scared to try something like that again. Anyway we have talked about this before. Let's wait and see what the future brings.
     
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    They've made a lot of signings, good signings too (Rooney aside) but the gap between them and the top six is going to be harder to bridge, the gap between them and 8th could well grow but to break into that elite group would take a special season, and as good as those signings have been, I don't think many of them would get into the other top 6 sides. Plus they've just lost a 20 goal a season striker. It's a hard thing to replace.

    I don't think he will, Everton have a good side maybe he could be first sub. But I don't think he's good enough for that either personally but whatever.

    Yup of course, but bus parking is what he's best at. Orchestrating a defence and keeping it type, it's his natural mode and something he's still managed to do reasonably successfully last season so would probably be his best bet.

    He found a job yeah, because people thought it was a blip. If he doesn't win a title or a champions league at Man Utd, he will essentially have failed there too. Then that would be two jobs, and a longer spell since his glory days, so of course big offers will dry up, and the arrogance of the man is such that he will not take a step down to a lower level to build himself back again because his ego couldn't take it. Porto was the start of his career and Inter were the best team in Italy at the time and a step up from Chelsea in terms of being a bigger club historically speaking so it wasn't like he was going to say West Brom or Chievo or Celta Vigo or whatever, so I don't think that's evidence that he would be willing to if he stopped getting those big offers. As you say though we shall see.
     
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    I'm guessing he's going to try and mould him into a Drogba type, maybe playing with better players and Mourinho's expertise in that area will be enough. If it doesn't happen and they just get the Everton Lukaku then they replace Zlatan's goals, so it's win win I suppose!

    Yeah i'd like to see Sanchez in one of the inside positions off a striker if he were at Chelsea. Hazard inside left like last year and Sanchez in the Pedro position on the right would be insane. A physical striker up top occupying the defence and creating space for them to run riot would just be unfair. Arsenal won't sell though and i'm sure he'll have his pick of teams when his contract expires so it's just a pipe dream, but fun to think about nonetheless.
     
  21. Slice'n'dice

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    Yeah either way a good signing most likely. Hopefully his barren form against top sides continues but if you have a player who scores 20 odd goals against the bottom 14 clubs, then that's still pretty useful.

    Reckon they will sell Sanchez especially if they can sell him abroad he obviously wants to go and they can still get a lot for him even with one year left because he is that good. If nobody comes in from the continent I think they would eventually cave and sell him to Chelsea or City or whatever, and whoever buys him could well be buying the title.
     
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    One of the greatest transfers happened on this day 16 years ago. Considering those times, 75 million Euros was an absolutely insane amount of money. This guy justified it though.

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    He also played his last professional game on this day 11 years ago. Who can forget that headbutt... Part of me wished France won the final because of him, even though I was bitter about their whole road to the final.
     
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    Looking at the 2008 squad which is the most recent one that won the Champions League. Michael Carrick is now the only guy who is still at the club. One of my first feelings of getting old. :(
     
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    It's official.

    Made for Manchester #RedRom

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    Young and proven EPL goalscorer. I am pleased.
     
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    Michael Carrick is the new United captain.
     
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    Danilo to Chelsea is almost done according to many reliable sources. Bakayoko also now very close.
     
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    James Rodriguez joins Bayern on a two year loan. Hopefully once that ends he'll have a place in Real Madrid's starting line-up, regularly.

    Milan's goalkeeper Donnarumma signed a contract extension. It looked inevitable that he would leave but that didn't happen. Safe to say Milan are building something this summer.
     
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    Donnarumma signing brings joy to my heart.
     
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    They even signed two Donnarumma's!
     
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    Not getting the dream move to Old Trafford has obviously taken its tol on Antoine Griezmann.

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    That's an interesting one. He clearly has a lot of ability but didn't really get many chances behind Carvajal, when he did he looked a bit out of form and the Madrid fans got on his back.

    It wouldn't surprise me if all the hype he had 18 months ago at Porto returns if he gets an extended run and faith shown in him from the manager, something he never got in Spain. It also wouldn't surprise me if he goes the way of other Brazilian wonder kids and ends up back home being a decent player in their domestic league, but nothing more in a couple of years (like a Pato, for instance).

    Time will tell I guess!
     
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    Kyle Walker signs for City.

    Matic and Diego Costa given permission to miss pre season far east tour.
     
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    Did you see Fargo this season? That weird fella coming in and purposefully destroying the company from within. I think the Chelsea lot have been taking notes o_O
     
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    Interesting transfer. Bonucci leaves Juventus to join rivals Milan. I miss Rossoneri competing for Serie A and CL, hopefully they will be back there soon.

    Looks like Juventus want to sign Matic, and Chelsea will probably prefer selling abroad to them, especially after we appeared to have snatched Lukaku from them.
     
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    I still haven't watched Fargo, but I've seen the storyline play out before.

    It reminds me of Vince McMahon back in 2002. He had a storyline going with Ric Flair over who had the most power. Pushed to the edge. Vince threatened to inject his own company with a lethal dose of poison if Flair would not give control back.

     
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    Haha sounds familiar! With Matic on his way, Chalobah being sold, Loftus-Cheek out on loan and Bakayoko injured we'll be going into the season with 2 midfielders, one of which being Fabregas who isn't really a holding midfielder anyway.

    I'm just struggling to get my head around the thinking behind all this, it's bizarre.
     
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    Morata going to Chelsea.
     
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    I've seen some hair transplants in my time. Some of these guys need to get in touch with Antonio Conte's barber. A sterling effort.

    Getting excited now. Be here before you know it. Hopefully, somebody can be bothered to make a thread for the predictions for this season.
     
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    Yeah, not particularly who I wanted, I think he's overrated. We were never going to get the top quality options though so, for the price (£58 Million initially), it's a decent signing in the current climate.

    We needed to do something. Have you seen the pictures of Chelsea leaving for preseason? It looks like Conte is leading a school trip to the Victoria and Albert museum with all the kids :eek: bet they had to stop every 5 minutes so one could go to the toilet and they were delayed initially because one parent forgot to sign the permission slip o_O
     
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    Yeah, 58 million is the new 10 million in the world of today. haha No, I did not see any pictures. I read something about it on sky sports news. The new sky sports setup is annoying. I've got them all on at the minutre because that is the way it is with virgin. But I don't watch Cricket, F1 and can do without golf. If I'm getting them for free then cool, but if not, I'll have to get them cancelled. No way I'm going to pay for F1 or cricket. Ewww :p

    Latest news about a centre midfielder to United is Barkley. United plotting a late window bid if/when his price goes down. Just by going by last season, I would expect Pogba to be better this season. Used to the team and all that. Still lacking in centre midfield. Matic got my hopes up. Not really feeling anything about Barkley. Not feeling anything right now. Just going through the jaded stage. Perisic will only be allowed to leave Inter if Martial is part of the deal. I'd hope that does not happen.
     
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    Yeah it was £30 Million less than what we supposedly bid, and had declined, for Higuain. It's crazy to think of £58 Million being a speculative punt, but I guess that's what it is at that price with today's market how it is.

    Yeah not sure about this new Sky setup! Can you pick any combination you like? I only really watch the football, cricket, rugby and NFL. Might have to research that and save a bit of money ditching the F1 and golf.

    I saw Man Utd are linked with Verratti? I think it's mostly a tedious link because of his new agent, not sure he's really what they're in the market for either, but it would be hard to pass up the opportunity if it's legit.
     
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    I have to get on the phone with virgin in the morning. Next thing I know my bill will be more expensive. Pretty sure you can choose any combination. You would be better off having a look.

    Now that would be one to be excited about. :D Was reading about Verratti earlier. Watch this space. Not buying it right now.
     
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    Yeah they usually end up shafting you with things like that! They'll probably put most of the big events and football on the "main event" channel, which is where I'm guessing they'll try and get you paying a premium. After watching Wimbledon on the BBC, the Sky coverage of sport is by far and away the best available, so it's worth it in a sense, but still.

    Oh yeah you'd find a way to fit him in for sure, the need for a defensive destroyer in midfield would be critical though. Pogba is positionally weak and lazy in defence, Verratti a bit lightweight. They've both had their best results with defensive players around them. Isn't that Keita that Liverpool want a Kante type?
     
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    Confirmed!

    Chelsea have signed Real Madrid's 24 year old Striker Alvaro Morata for the inital £58 million fees which will rise to £70 million as the addons include a mere Top 4 finish and certain number of appearances before the end of the season.

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    Real Madrid could have gained £10 m more on Morata had they accepted the £80 m offer from Manchester United.
     
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    #WELCOMETOCHELSEA
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    Who remembers this?
    Is this the worst headline ever written?

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