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Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. TheMuzziah

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    lets be honest - Liverpool would have destroyed Ajax in the final. Sevilla beats Man United 8 times out of 10 in a EL final.

    again, man united are NOT bigger than Liverpool. Quite the opposite in fact. Until they win a couple more league titles to widen the gap or get to 5 CL titles, Liverpool will rightly be considered the greater club and no amount of Charities Shields will change that. :D
     
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    I am sure even you don't believe that. :D

    Whatever buddy, I think otherwise. We can run in circles all day. Both of those tasks you're giving to Man United will happen in like a decade max, so unless your demands become higher after that just enjoy these remaining few years. :p;)
     
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    Now they're saying Man City have hijacked it :eek:

    Still expect him to end up at Real Madrid, but wow. I think City have the most expensive player in 4 positions (mostly defence and keeper after this summer). If they go on to spend £170 Million on Mbappe too? Crazy.
     
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    So much ******** in the papers about this stuff. The guy's going to Madrid, almost doubling the world transfer record at 18. No pressure then mate.

    To be honest considering how much you struggled against the likes of Celta Vigo and Anderlecht, that does suggest that Sevilla would've wiped the floor with you.

    Could happen, very much doubt you'll get up to five champions Leagues, Fergie took about twenty odd years to win two, from his beginnings to 2008. Do think Mourinho's archaic methods will be better suited to the Champions League, a good bus parking can be a classic European away performance. Realistically though you aren't winning either until you get a more modern forward thinking manager.

    As for who's the bigger club, Liverpool are, you think Man Utd, but for us to argue that would be moronic. Something tells me we wouldn't agree.
     
  5. Tiki-Taka

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    Excellent day coming, if you are in the American time zone. Barcelona-Manchester United, Real Madrid-Manchester City, PSG-Juventus.

    Frustrating, no great players have arrived yet. Come on board and Valverde, time is running out.
     
  6. Slice'n'dice

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    Not really though is it? Over a month, and hands off Phil Coutinho. He's best served staying in Liverpool and so are we.

    Some good matches, but friendlies are frendlies, could never get that excited about even glamorous friendlies like that, and when Liverpool played Barca last year. Was good but I'm a fan of Liverpool high profile friendlies not including my club are not really so interesting for me. For people in the US though it's a good opportunity to see a good level of football live I guess.
     
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    On the other hand Sevilla getting beaten by Leicester last season could easily suggest we'd smash them. Level of play can vary a lot from a match to match as we all know.

    He's won both competitions before so I certainly don't see him as someone who is holding the club back, at least not at the moment. And who knows if there is going to be one or several managers in the next decade, I didn't say it's going to be under Mou and honestly I don't care which manager guides the club to success. But I really think clubs from other leagues will challenge the Spanish ones soon, with Man United being one of them.
     
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    ''Everton are building something.''

    ''Yeah, a new ground.''

    LOL best comeback ever. :p
     
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  9. Slice'n'dice

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    Do kind of feel Everton are little Andy Murray like with the other three. Far ahead of the rest but some way short of the best.

    Leicester's style of play shows them to be dangerous against attacking sides that like to try and dominate matches especially when they are on their game as we've seen the last couple of years. Dunno about 8 out of 10 but I think they'd have the edge.

    He sneaked you into the Champions League through the back door so that's helped keep the club from potentially being left behind this time. If he doesn't win something big this year though he never will, second year is usually his best, and his 3rd never is and he's not in this for the long term. Get someone good in after that though and you have a chance with the kind of money you will throw at the problem. But with the quality in the League at the moment means that it's harder to compete in Europe with teams in less competitive Leagues, and just generally, don't see anyone dominating the Premier League for a while regardless.
     
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    Just a random thought

    Pretty sure I haven't heard the word triumpahlism since Sir Alex Ferguson retired.
     
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    Long ball United in action now. Barcelona winning 1-0 after a Neymar goal.
     
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    Is this you by any chance? The hashtag is pretty much the same message that you gave me. :p

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    I think he will stay, a lot of time left on his contract if I am not wrong and he is not trying to force a move.
     
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    Haha, no not me no. Yeah I don't think he's going this summer, seems pretty settled, hasn't been making any noise about leaving, think he probably will go in the future though. Don't think he's ready for the move to be honest yet, especially if Neymar stays, not getting into that front three.
     
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    Perisic fee just went up another 7.5 million.
     
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    That Kondogbia own goal was epic. :p

    He was an absolute rock against Bayern.
     
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    Amazing! Was the only way we were going to score today lol.

    Conte did well showing how weak the squad is. Morata on the wing for 60 minutes, Moses left midfield, Fabregas and Kante in a midfield two etc.. People are slamming him for getting it wrong, but he was probably trying to make a point.
     
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    First El Clasico outside of Spain since 1982. Miami got a goalfest as expected.

     
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    Looks like Matic is on his way. After him, 1-2 more solid signings in the right spots and we are good to go.
    We'll see you during the real deal - The Spanish Super Cup tie. The Miami friendly could be the last game of MSN. :p Any updates on Neymar?
     
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    Brilliant signing for Man Utd imo, they've made a few but that's their best this summer for me.

    Chelsea effectively won the title last year with 13 players, ditched a few in January (Oscar, Ivanovic, Mikel etc..). A few more have gone this summer. With the season opener next week, we're going to be battling on 4 fronts with a similar number of players it seems. Ouch!
     
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    Quoted for truth.

    Very excited with the signing of Matic, wasn't even excited when they signed Pogba. My kind of player gets the job done without any fuss and is such an essential part of the team.
     
  21. Tiki-Taka

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    We beat Madrid last time without Neymar and plenty of times before that, we can easily do that again. ;) Looks like the transfer is likely, and I would be disappointed in him if he decides to leave. I can't see what PSG offers him that Barcelona can't. But I would be disappointed with our board even more if we don't bring in a great player or two with the money that we get for Neymar.
     
  22. Poisoned Slice

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    To quote a former member here. No excuses this season. United now have a defensive midfield bodyguard.

    Deal has been made public. It's done.

    Welcome to Manchester you Chelsea reject. :cool:
     
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    Red looks way more awesome on him, let's be objective. :D

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    If he does half as good as the previous Nemanja, it's going to be a successful period.
     
  24. TheAssassin

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    Sweet. Now if Perisic/some other quality winger and/or another good defensive player comes, it would be a successful transfer window IMO.
     
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    Loved it how he mostly called the club just Manchester during his interview. It's like the sky blues don't even exist. :D
     
  26. Poisoned Slice

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    So now that we pretty much know the 4. Jose Mournho has what he wanted. Or close to it. Full back would be a bonus since that was another position linked with Man Utd.

    Wondering how the team will line up now.

    DDG
    Shaw (please)
    Bailly
    Lindelof
    Valencia
    Matic
    Herrera
    Pogba
    Lukaku


    Then it gets more difficult. As far as the estbalished players go. Rashford, Martial, Mata, Mkhitaryan, Perisic. (maybe) United going to pay so much to have Perisic be a sub? So I guess you can consider him part of the team. So that leaves one place for Rashford, Martial, Mata and Mkhitaryan. Not to mention the non attacking players,

    @Slice'n'dice I'll put it on the line. :p I'll definitely give it to you this season if Man United don't do better in the league, champions league etc. I know you say last season was mediocre for United. Obviously, I think that is rubbish, but whatever. All I'm saying is I think United team looks really strong now. Stronger than it has been for a long time.
     
  27. TheAssassin

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    Good transfers, at least Lukaku and Matic are. Martial and Rashford will improve compared to last season. Pogba after settling and with a more attacking role will be better too. And obviously the finishing will be better. The only way is up actually, all those moronic home draws will never happen in a period of just a few months again. Not positive yet on a title win straight away but there is some real quality in the team, going to be hard to beat for anyone.
    Obviously Matic knows what's a football institution and what's just a sheikh project.
    I still think he will stay. Maybe a part of me wants to see him stay. Don't like when world class players go to France nowadays instead of Spain, England or even Italy. And obviously Barcelona would get an insane amount of money which they would spend well IMO, and I don't want that. :D
     
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    Yeah this is what I think too. If we did better in the league last time I would have been more optimistic. But such a massive improvement from 6th to 1st in a year, I am not sure they can pull that off. We will see, Chelsea have had bigger contrasts in the last few years. Anything can happen.

    Hope you are enjoying your honeymoon. Are you in Skopje yet?
     
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    Finishing 6th doesn't tell the full story at all. Margins weren't big between 3rd and 6th, but all of them went against us. I am sure direct CL entry and a deep run in Europe will happen. It remains to be seen whether it's just 3rd and QF or 1st and 1st but the club is going to be where it belongs again, among the best.

    It's nice. Currently in Montenegro, will arrive in Macedonia during the weekend and stay there for 3-4 days. Then it's Bulgaria for a week where my aunt has an empty apartment and after that we are going home.
     
  30. Poisoned Slice

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    Bit of optimism would be nice. :D
     
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    Yeah I've said for years that midfield is where matches are won. Keep possession, start attacks, protect the defence, set the tone etc.. if you're strong there, you're going to do well.

    I think Matic will be even better at Man Utd in a 3 with Herrera and Pogba. He's great at what he does, but a bit limited to excel in a 2 like he played at Chelsea. Seeing himself or Kante with the ball at their feet, it looked like a giraffe and a 3 year old kicking a full size ball around with their dad in the garden at times. No need to worry about that with his new team mates around him.
     
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    that's fair enough, agree to disagree. surely you cannot argue with the following though?

    (as far as European success is concerned)
    tier 0: Real Madrid
    tier 1: Liverpool, Milan, Munich, Barcelona




    tier 2: Ajax, Dortmund, Inter Milan, Man United

    oh dear, so what you're saying is you basically think there's NO chance yous finish outside the top3?! that's could well come back to bite you if so,looks like you've yet to learn your lesson. :p as for Europe unless united get a **** easy group I think they'll struggle to even get to the last 16. and even if they do, they'll get absolutely hammered by the first decent team they come up against. this ain't Europa :p

    of course, but there's a fine line between optimism and delusion. ;)
     
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    Yeah, it is a very fine line, but I think I did just enter delusional territory after the way the premier league ended last season. Now with this excitment I'm feeling you know I will be tipping them again. Or will I?

    Not saying it is the new class of 1999 or anything, but this is as good as the team has been overall since 2008 maybe. Think 2008 is the last great team of the Fergie era and then it has been on fumes ever since. Barca beat a shot team in 2011. JK I'm painting a worse picture than reality, but you know what I mean. Centre midfield maestro Ryan Giggs. The joy of saying he can still do it after finally getting his first assist in 15 games. :p Signing Matic did make me feel this way. Just more confident than I've been. I think last season was more hope over expectation. Now I have to believe I'm expecting and I am. Of course, upgrades for other teams too. Let's get it on.
     
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    Sounds about right.
    It's just a prediction, no jinx BS. I sometimes get them perfectly but it wouldn't be the first time I am wrong either. Last season I was certain Manchester United would finish in top 4 but they gave up on chasing it with 3-4 games to go. Luckily they entered CL anyway.

    You're underestimating Manchester United. Maybe it's you who is yet to learn the lesson. ;)
     
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    I'm surprised Unai Emery is still in charge of PSG after last season the collapse in the Champions League and losing the Ligue 1 title.

    Couple of good buys available from PSG, Grzegorz Krychowiak, Serge Aurier and a risky one in Hatem Ben Arfa.
     
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    Neymar has asked to leave Barcelona.

    Very disappointed in him. Can't believe he would ditch them for someone like PSG.
     
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    In a way I am glad Pogba didn't have the tag of most expensive player for long, but this is just getting insane. Even clauses of hundreds of millions will be triggered from now on. Watch out, someone will pay the one billion for Ronaldo in a year or two.

    Now Barcelona have a chance to buy several excellent players. MSN is no more but if they spend wisely, this would be a very good transfer window for them.
     
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    Like @Tiki-Taka said, no player is bigger than the club. Even if I don't believe that to be true, I can still see the point. Funny to think that a team could be better without Neymar, but if they invest it well.
     
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    Damn right, show him the money.
     
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    Blame oil.

    Lentini. :(

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    lolz
     
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    I don't think we will think about him the same way from now on. Most of us saw Neymar as the new leader, what Cruyff was several decades ago, what Rivaldo and Ronaldinho were over a decade ago, what Messi is right now. I don't know why would he give up on that possibility, especially when he has already proven himself to be one of the best in the world while playing in the best league there is. 105 goals and 80 assists in 186 games, that's excellent. Winning Ligue 1 right now can't be as great as beating Real and Atletico to La Liga. (Unlikely) Champions League win with the new project that is PSG won't be as great as winning it in Barcelona that has the same, beautiful football philosophy for a long time and whose players have learned that when they were little. Not angry but disappointed with his decision. I really am.
     
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    I keep hearing the old, Neymar wants to be the best in the world and is no longer happy being in Messi's shadow. No chance to win the best in the world award if you're not even the best player in your own team. I don't know if I can take this seriously, but it doesn't really matter. It wouldn't be the worst yarn I've ever listened to. It makes sense.

    Barcelona has been expected/favorites to win the champions league for years now, ever since the Guardiola golden era, they are always contenders. Not the same with PSG. I reckon a champions league win for PSG would be just as great as winning it with Barcelona. I get what you're saying about the philosohpy and so on. PSG are a ''soulless organisation.''
     
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    I can understand those ambitions but is it going to happen for him if he plays in the French League? Premier League or Serie A or Bundesliga would have been a better option IMO.

    I am biased towards Barcelona obviously but I think there are other solid teams that aren't main contenders for Champions League just like PSG, but they don't want to buy everything good in this world to do that. Obviously getting Neymar for this amount of money would make anyone look like instant glory hunting club, but I think you get my point. There could have been a better transfer story. But I will look at the positive side, Real could have been the ones to trigger his clause. :oops: Never liked when that kind of transfer happens, and I rate Neymar very highly as well.
     
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    So Blind had a backpass going into the corner of our goal, De Gea saved it and Sampdoria got an indirect free kick on the edge of the six yard box. Manchester United defended it and scored right away from the counterattack. Blind was a genius.
     
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    Go and win the Super Cup. :) I'm with you guys. Or at least don't flop like Juventus did in the CL final.
     
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    My mate and his nephew are away down to Dublin. He was looking me to go and asked a few weeks ago, but some work today and I couldn't get out of it. Also, the trip down and back to Dublin in a car put me off, not to mention the eyesight prevents me seeing the ball clearly. I'm not the dedicated fan I used to be. The latest jolt of excitment after the Matic signing might have made me change my mind. Anyway, I was looking Matic info even though you can't tell much from just a half in a pre season friendly. I just got ''he looks good in the red shirt'' haha Big mate is such a fanboy. :p
     
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    double post. Weird.
     
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    I heard he was ok. Doing his usual, breaking down their play, starting our own. He isn't going to make us drop our jaws, that is not his job anyway. But he will be really useful.
    It would be nice to start a season with a European prize. But until I see us smash them in the Champions League (after what happened last time we met), there will be unfinished business.
     
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    £198 Million and £600k a week.. after tax :eek:

    Barca will be fine, they'll probably get Coutinho or Hazard, maybe even both.

    What a huge transfer that would be, doubling the world record, the impact it could have on Chelsea and Liverpool losing key players, the Premier League would be worse off for it etc.. crazy times.
     

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