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  1. Tiki-Taka

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    Sorry for the late reply, it was a very busy day yesterday.

    Just the usual videos that include player's goals, assists, chances created, passes, interceptions and so on. Those are easy to find for most bigger La Liga names. You know which player I would recommend. :p But honestly it's worth it to check out other stars as well. Apart from disliking the recent dominance of the biggest two clubs in Spain or lack of viewer's time, there is no other excuse for not watching La Liga. After all some other clubs from the country have had some great recent results in the last decade or so, so all the quality can't be based in just two clubs.


    Our official Youtube channel used to be great with providing detailed and high quality resumen (highlights) of every match, not just those that involve the biggest two or three clubs. Now the ones they upload are very short, kind of like what Roland Garros are doing in tennis. Lacks content. Luckily our league doesn't have such a strict copyright policy like Premier League so the highlights other people create either last longer or aren't taken down at all. Even full matches of El Clasicos aren't rare to find.
    To sum it up, it's not hard to have access to La Liga.
     
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    Harry Kane the Hurricane two hat-tricks in a row. :eek:
     
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    Burnley! What a free kick
     
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    Sweet strike from Lingard still plenty of work to do.
     
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    At this rate City will win the league by a 30 point margin.

    Good impact by Lingard, scoring two after coming on, sweet backheel and injury time equalizer. Shaw was solid too. The rest deserve Fergie's hairdryer treatment.

    Still unbeaten on Boxing day since 1978. Merry Christmas you mugs.

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    It's a shame that Burnley couldn't hold on for a famous victory.

    Still what a job that Sean Dyche has done there during his 5 years at the club, with tiny resources at his disposal compared to other Premier League clubs and an incredibly low net spend. He was perfectly happy for the club to allocate more funds towards improving their training facilities than signing new players, and they are incredibly well run off the pitch.

    £ for £, he has easily been the manager of the season so far, ahead of Guardiola or anyone else. This is Burnley's 4th season as a Premier League club, and Man Utd have failed to do the double over them in any of those seasons.
     
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    Why did Ronaldo win the Ballon dor again?
     
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    Being vital in four out of five competitions that his club won in 2017 and owning all Champions League opponents sounds like the guy had a solid case to eventually win the Ballon d'Or.

    It's all good, with the way things are going at the moment, I'd put my money on Messi getting to #6 next year.
     
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    To make this so called rivalry look close I guess...
     
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    As it’s Christmas, the season of good will and giving to those less fortunate, I thought it might be a nice idea to have a TW whip round to collect funds for Mourinho. Understandably £300 Million isn’t enough, so please, give generously :p
     
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    Looks like Liverpool are finally getting their man.

    The real reason why stadium increase won't go ahead. They said because it is too expensive but that is the reason why. They don't have any idea how much it is going to take to make United great again. Anywhere between 100-150 billion. Who really knows?
     
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    Shame there was only one goal, but anyway it's 18 wins in a row now for City. I would like to say this is getting ridiculous but that was probably said over a month ago. :oops:
     
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    Sterling won't have a sniff at the Christian Dior. Should be in line for the footballer of the year.

    A really exciting team. Grrr.
     
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    I wonder how many of the following Premier League records Man City will break/match this season:

    - Chelsea’s 95 points in 2004/2005
    - Chelsea’s 30 victories in 2016/2017
    - Arsenal’s 0 defeats / unbeaten season in 2003/2004
    - Chelsea’s 103 goals in 2009/2010
    - Man Utd’s 18 point title winning margin in 1999/2000
    - Chelsea’s 15 away wins in 2004/2005

    I hope Newcastle stay up. It is an excellent city where the football team is the focal point (the stadium dominates the city centre). No-one has a divine right to be a Premier League club, but the league is definitely much better place with them in it.
     
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    £75 million for a defender, wow. :eek:
     
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    Van Dijk, 8th most expensive player ever and most expensive defender. Holy sh1t... Liverpool are the last club I expected to make a transfer like this happen. Welcome to the money splashing club, Scousers. Took you a while to join the rest of us. :p
     
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    Imagine how much money Liverpool would have saved if they'd scouted these players and beaten Southampton to sign them all in the first place, rather than having to pay over the odds for them.
     
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    Cheerleaders at Palace look cold
     
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    So Mourinho thinks Lukaku is rubbish because he’s too big and strong..

    Has he not seen him play for the last 4 years? He’s always been a donkey, the Heskey/Carroll type. Exactly what I’ve always said, and everytime I get told how wrong I was :rolleyes:

    Sure, he does it better than those two, but he’s in the same category still. Seems Mourinho and the MOTD pundits are starting to realise it
     
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    Swansea appointing Carvalhal is very strange, given how desperate their situation looks, and the fact that Sheffield Wednesday were in free-fall before they sacked him recently.

    There have been a series of clubs that have been hanging for dear life in the Premier League for a quite a few seasons before their luck has finally run out, Wigan (although they over-achieved to spend 8 consecutive years in the Premier League in the first place), Aston Villa and Sunderland, and Swansea appear to the next in line there.

    I'm a Blackburn Rovers fan (with it being my home town) as I was saying to a few friends that I prefer the fact that they we are a lower league club, but are winning more matches, scoring more goals and playing more attacking football. Being a Premier League club but only making up the numbers, like Stoke or West Brom, would be incredibly boring. The novelty of being a Premier League club and playing the likes of Man Utd and Chelsea soon wears off. Or being a Premier League whose only ambition is survival, who play negative football, hardly create any chances and play weakened teams in the cup competitions, quickly gets old. And when we were a Premier League club (for a total of 18 seasons) we punched above our weight with 6 top 10 finishes in 9 seasons from 2002-2010 after we no longer had Jack Walker's money.
     
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    Interesting points. I would add Fulham to that list of teams who kept holding on for dear life for a couple of years. These teams do nothing all season then win a few games to stay up right at the end, obviously it’s great from a monetary point of view, but as you say, it’s probably better to be in a league where you’re competitive.

    I’m from the Midlands and my Mother’s side of the family are all Wolves fans, so as you can imagine, they’re on cloud 9 at the moment.. the whole of Wolverhampton is really. It looks like they’ll be back in the Premier League next season, but I doubt that’ll be talked about like this season where they’re playing beautiful stuff, winning games and the town is buzzing. Those things are all any fan wants at the end of the day.

    Going off on a tangent, that last point is why I think international football is way past it’s sell by date, in England anyway. The love people have for their club means everything to them. I know the Wolves fans in my life would of taken a Championship title this season over England winning the World Cup, and who can blame them?
     
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    Hey Noleberic, good to see you back. Don't go missing during Nole's absence so much. ;)

    It was a fantastic 2nd half and the result. I didn't expect that. Obviously I miss the 2011 days considering the way we played back then. But I won't complain about the current situation either. :)
     
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    The only criticism he could have is Lukaku has evolved and is no longer a donkey? He has been looking like a footballer lately instead. Maybe that is what upsets him. :p

    There's only one PHIL TAYLOR.
     
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    Agreed 100%. If I had a vested interest in our finances of course I would want us to remain a Premier League club with all the TV money and sponsorship riches. From that point of review we got relegated at a terrible time, 1 year before BT entered the ring and the TV money shot up dramatically.

    But if we were still in the Premier League, we'd be one of a big cluster of clubs who would just be targeting survival and at best mid table mediocrity year after year, who would approach 'glamorous' games Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge by playing 10 men behind the ball and defending for our lives. Boring.

    And if you support a smaller club it's inevitable that you will see your team getting relegated several times during your lifetime, that's just the cyclical nature of the sport. Things were looking incredibly rosy for us when Hughes was our manager and John Williams was our chief executive, but a few years later we were run by the Venky's and had sacked Allardyce and were in free-fall.

    Recently when West Brom sacked Pulis, there was a lot of media outrage with people saying that West Brom fans needed to be careful what they wished for. Under Pulis they had seen their team average less than 1 goal per game, and have the worst stats in the PL for shots on target and possession. Their football was beyond dire to watch, and they even approached away games against the likes of Huddersfield playing 5 defenders and 3 holding midfielders, and have 0 shots on target away to the likes of Sunderland and Palace. They had seen their team down tools after reaching 40 points (a Pulis speciality during his career) and do nothing in the cups with a series of defeats against lower-league opponents.

    Can anyone really blame Baggies fans for wanted to get rid of Pulis in that position? Football is about more than just existing. And regardless they had only won 2 out of their last 21 league games under Pulis and were leaking goals all over the place. If a Tony Pulis team with his style play can't even win games or defend, what's the point of him?

    And I agree that in England it appears like the majority of fans would rather see their clubs doing well than the national team. It appears to be different in many other countries. I work with people from Chile who get excited about international breaks, and value their national teams Copa America titles in 2015 and 2016 far more highly than any of their club teams' successes. Then again it helps that in South America there are no minnows so every qualifying game is exciting and basically war on the pitch. I laugh when people ask me if I want to go to the pub to watch an England vs. Estonia (no disrespect to them) qualifying match.
     
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    Think they will lose eventually I think that might be the least likely to break personally, doubtless gonna breaking a few of them.

    Think Rafa will keep them up, still a top manager, if he does get to sign players in Jan then he'll do it comfortably. Otherwise it'll be closer, their squad is pretty dreadful to be honest but I think he would still keep this one up though without signings but it'd be a tough job.

    Need to sign their scouts really.

    An absolutely mental amount for a centre back it is, but if it sorts Liverpool's defence out then that's a small price to pay. Made more money from sales than we've spent the last few years so just balancing it out.

    Top centre backs are at a premium these days, expect that record won't take so long to be broken again.
     
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    Broken record Shearer doing his thing once more. I find it impossible to say somebody is a waste of money/not worth it before they have even played a game. Good for the game that a centre back moved for that sort of fee. You gotta pay the price if you want the titles.
     
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    Hamsik dethroned Maradona as Napoli's all time top goalscorer last week. He scored another one a few minutes ago. Well done to him, remained loyal throughout the years when he probably could have played for a bigger club.

    I'd like to see them keep their consistency and challenge for the title, make it interesting.
     
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    Not sure it's good for the game as such but in terms of the value of centre backs being more in line with attacking players I think is right. There is absolutely too much money, all this TV money should be more towards making going to the games more affordable for the fans and could still get more money in from these deals. Never going to happen unfortunately though. Essentially what someone's worth is what someone is willing to pay however, Liverpool's defence has been a problem for years so if this is the man that finally sorts it out (and if he can get back to last season's form, then he very well could do) then it's hard to put a price on that. Likewise Sigurðsson was worth far more than 45 million to Swansea as without him they look to be going down for sure.
     
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    Seems that Mourinho has forgotten that Martial and Rashford are both strikers, can't rest Lukaku indeed. While I do think Rashford is massively overrated he is a solid back up option to rest your main striker. Martial is an excellent player who's best player is a striker. Neither are big lumps though which is why Mourinho considers Ibra and Lukaku his only strikers.

    One has to assume he means this as there's no diabolical display of his team to distract attention off this time.
     
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    Another dire match.
     
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    A truly disastrous December for Man Utd that's for sure.

    I do wonder if the Mourinho to PSG rumours will gather pace this season.

    At Man Utd he faces stiff competition domestically from numerous other heavyweight clubs (a big 6 is great for neutral fans like me but not for the various managers who face more rivals for trophies, top 4 places etc). He has never developed the same bond with his players at Man Utd as he did at Chelsea (before falling out with many of them), Inter or Porto. At Real Madrid he had an insanely good squad and Ronaldo at his physical peak which offset any tension and bust-ups during his first 2 years there. Plus there is clearly friction between Ed Woodward and him over transfer policy.

    At PSG he would probably have a bigger transfer budget than what he currently has at Man Utd, would face a significantly easier ride domestically enjoying a one horse race rather than competing within a big 6, would inevitably win a league title in a 5th different country, and most notably could be the hero to deliver them their long awaited Champions League title (I think that RM will knock out them this season).

    Maybe I'm completely wrong and he's more determined than ever to topple Pep's Man City. He was highly motivated to topple Pep's Barcelona when he was at Real Madrid. The difference is that in England he also has the likes of Chelsea and Liverpool to compete with, and possibly also Spurs provided that they don't have to sell their best players and Arsenal when they finally get rid of Wenger. So obsessing over Man City could be very costly. Simeone's Atletico Madrid hadn't peaked yet by the time Mourinho left Spain.
     
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    ''Jose hoping for divine intervention.''

    I had to laugh.
     
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    Don't know about other records, pretty sure some of them will be broken. But it looks like Man United are doing their best to help City beat their record of the 18 point margin. :oops:
    I think he will stay at Manchester United for another season at least. People can say anything they want about him but he loves a challenge. Otherwise he wouldn't have taken charge of this club left in a pretty poor state at the time and all other clubs that were in need of taking at least one step higher rather than being a complete finished article just waiting for someone to have the joy of managing them. And even if he does replace Emery, I wouldn't hold it against him (unless he starts talking trash about Manchester United in the media of course :D). He's earned himself an easier ride for once in his career.
     
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    Yeah, shame he didn't join Bolton or something. That would have been a challenge. He's just not right for United, plain and simple. We're always going to have somebody go, that is not the United way blah blah blah. Boring the fans to death. He is running out of string fast. Not sure about next season. Time for him to rise to the challenge at the second half of the season.

    Bring back the champions league. lol
     
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    That was me with my pundit hat on. Really, I'm not quite sure about Mourinho next season. I'm not giving up on him. Even if the play is awful.
     
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    man utd/Southampton was even dull via the radio..and why wasn't Zlatan even on the bench ?.
     
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    Injured again. Out for a month.
     
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    Jose is too negative at times for my taste and admittedly I wanted him to fail at pretty much every previous club he managed because he was so classless in certain moments (plus I prefer all of his rival clubs: Benfica, Man United obviously, Arsenal, Milan, Roma, Barcelona). He toned some of it down recently. Whether it's because he is managing a club he always respected and never criticized, because he lost the energy, because he matured or all of this I don't know. In the previous four seasons I've seen way worse stuff than what's happened this December so I am certainly not on the Mou out train. There are several quality players and youngsters and since we are not a feeder club to anyone and have a big budget, things will improve, the players will start clicking on a consistent basis sooner or later, whether it's under Mourinho or someone else. It's a good thing I only witnessed a part of Sir Alex's team's dominance because it didn't spoil me as much as it could have. I'm definitely not as frustrated as older fans and followers of the club. Plus there is always Messi and co to entertain me if the Red Devils disappoint. :D
     
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    Yeah, I was definitely spoiled. lol I'm not that old though. Least I didn't have to suffer through relegation or anything. :p
     
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    oh no, sad. time to retire soon maybe age 36, and after his acl injury a year ago.
     
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    Must calm down and get my licence before I board the Jose out choppa.

    Felt like he was rushed back, even with his alien and lion blood.
     
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    Maybe this season will turn out similar to Pep's 3 seasons at at Bayern, when their results during the first half of the season were amazing and practically flawless, but took a tumble during the second half of the season. Of course in all of those cases they still had a large enough lead to win the title comfortably which City will do this season, but they lost momentum ahead of the business end of the CL.

    I think that Liverpool could beat them at Anfield at January. Hopefully it will be an attacking feast anyway.

    Chelsea should have broken their own points record 1 year later in 2005/2006. They only dropped 5 points from their first 22 games, but as they had such a huge lead complacency and boredom set in plus they suffered a hangover from their CL exit against Barcelona. And after wrapping up the title they played weakened teams and lost their remaining fixtures.

    I would agree that he will probably stay 1 more year before moving on for a new challenge. As he doesn't just have 1 direct rival here like a Benfica, Roma or Barcelona but 3 or 4, this his is biggest ever challenge from a domestic point of view. The club have still scored a healthy number of goals this season, and even last season I thought that until February they were also playing good football in the league, but they kept wasting chances and drew too many games.

    No club has defended the title since Man Utd themselves in 2009, and as amazing as City are looking this season, you'd imagine that Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool will all be stronger next season. In recent years in the Premier League when 1 club has raised the bar and looked like starting a period of dominance, their rivals have quickly caught up.

    I don't see Pep being at Man City for more than a couple more years (he gets bored quickly and always wants a new project), so maybe their next battle will be for that PSG job, or maybe Pep will go to Italy. Eventually I'm sure that Pep's retirement gig will be managing in either New York or LA in the MLS, while Mourinho's will be managing the Portuguese national team.
     
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    I'd say the unbeaten season is the only record I think is highly unlikely. I think they will fall short of away wins as well.
     
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    Mourinho averages about 3 seasons at a club before the wheels come off. It seems at United it’s taken 2 and a half, so I’d be shocked to see him back next year. PSG was where I thought he should of gone personally, right now he would of assembled the worlds most expensive squad and be working his way towards winning the holy grail in the Champions League and immortalising himself (like he did with the 04 Porto season, first spell at Chelsea, being the man to get Inter that European Cup etc..).

    Taking on the United job made very little sense for Jose, and the club. Was Jose going to be worshipped for winning a League or two? Not with Ferguson’s achievements still relatively fresh. Are United going to produce a foundation of young, exciting players who will play together for the next 10 years playing in a way that United are expected to? The answer to both questions was, is and always has been no.
     
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    Us fans have hope, it clouds the realism at times, makes us all delusional. Well I can speak for myself. Yeah, you talk about how there will be no real progress under Jose, despite the trophies. The board were more interested in attracting big names, even though those big names haven't really lived up to expectations. Ibra did last season. Don't think there was much future planning involved. More of a live by today situation. Jose has the winners record. It does all look pretty sweet. Then you watch a United match.

    Still don't think it is that delusional to think United have a chance to win the champions league.
     
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    The board are searching for a new era after Ferguson (or at least should be), bringing in a big name manager with plenty of baggage ain’t going to achieve that.. never has and never will.

    Faith, delusion.. whatever you want to call it, it’s all well and good, but it’s not going to change the fact it was a ridiculous appointment.

    Look at the Steelers in the NFL, they’ve had 3 coaches in 50 years. All of them have had great success, stuck to what makes the franchise unique and the appointments have been based on long term success over the flavour of the month. Who would of thought some young kid who’s only really coached defensive backs would achieve what he has? The owners get their decisions right, the Man Utd ones get it wrong too often. That’s the problem imo.
     

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