Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by Ross K, Aug 10, 2008.
One down, one slaughter next weekend to come :grin:
United won the European Cup in 1999. The second leg against Juventus is still one of my favourite matches.
Also, LOL Madrid. All that money spent and they still end up chasing shadows as Xavi threaded the ball through the eye of a needle for both goals.
What happened to Morrissey?
The less pressure we have going into the Tottenham and Liverpool games the better.
They didn't look good did they, did you see Raul push Benzema out of the way near the end of the game?
At the start of the season I was hearing stories about Raul and Benzema working really well in training, yet when they got on the pitch Raul would just ignore Benzema, which doesn't really surprise me. When Anelka joined Real Madrid as a kid Raul went out of his way to unsettle him aswell.
Raul's like the Triple H of Madrid with all his backstage powers. I wouldn't surprised if it was him who got Ronaldo all fat because he was jealous of his awesomeness.
iso valdes' first cap in south africa
at least put him at 3rd string, he's going to win zamora for the second straight year
Xavi was simply brilliant against Real.
Guess the Premier League title is almost as good as Chelsea's, good performance from Pompey showed a lot of heart i just hope they don't get smashed in the final.
I'm pleased for Avram Grant, when he was at Chelsea he got alot of stick and he did get a few things wrong (he got his team selection wrong for the Carling Cup final, aswell as making a few tactical errors in two 4-4 draws against Spurs and Villa that ended up costing us the title). Having said that though he did get us to our first Champions League final and sent out a team that were incredibly unlucky not to win it.
Now he's at Portsmouth he's working miracles with the players he has, most of them don't even know if they are going to be payed. He's got them playing some pretty decent stuff though and it's good that the fans will have this FA Cup run to remember when they look back at this awful season.
No comments on Terry's horror tackle?
The guy is vile and shouldn't play for England again.
ouch, is that milner? did he get injured at all?
Wow!!!! That tackle was horrible! He comes in high, studs up, and only a yellow?
Football would become pretty boring if you were only allowed to tackle when the ball is on the ground.
Terry took the ball and then the player, Milner actually got none of the ball and leathered Terry's left knee. It was obvious the player who decided to flop around like a fish on the deck would be the one who won the free kick, not surprising to find out it was the player who lost the challenge just outside his own penalty area.
Sorry but he could have broke Milner's leg, foot off the floor with studs showing that impacted on Milner's knee, definatley a red card.
I agree. He is also accident prone and his errors lead to far too many goals.
Yeah and i'm sure you'd feel the same if someone took you out like that wouldn't you?
lol, so the player who won the ball and got his left knee kicked in should of been sent off? You could see how late Milner was because the ball had actually been taken off him by Terry and was behind him when he swung his boot into Terry.
No way was it a red card, remember Lampard being sent off against Liverpool last season? It was a bouncing ball, Lampard and Alonso went in, Lampard won the ball and both players made contact with each other on their follow throughs. Almost straight after the game the referee had appologised to Lampard and the red card was withdrawn. The precedent is there to show that the challenge was perfectly fine as Terry was in control of it.
Yeah, he's rubbish really isn't he.
Being voted by your fellow pro's into the FIFPro World XI for 5 straight years (the only player EVER to of been selected every year) must be a fluke, right? I mean, what do the best players on the planet who play against him know about the game?
I suppose being the only defender to be voted the best in Europe 3 times is also pure luck, that award is voted for by the top 16 coaches in Europe. I suppose all the arm chair critics know more about the game than the best coaches in the world, right?
Haha of course!
I've played Sunday league football, if you don't see 5-10 challenges like that a game there's something wrong.
Football is a contact sport, if you want to be like Barcelona and cry whenever someone has the nerve to tackle you then so be it.
Last statement is silly and yeah, just silly. If you want to look at crybabies who dive look no further than Arsenal.
Yeah, the way their players and manager talk isn't good. Any tackle they don't like they think it's their God given right to have the player sent off.
I know alot of Wolves fans and they weren't happy that Karl Henry was sent off for a fairly average challenge on Rosicky a few weeks ago.
Things are going too far the other way recently, I was at Chelsea v Stoke earlier in the season and I think there was something like 8 minutes of injury time in the first half and 7 in the second. It was a 3 o'clock kick off and the game was still going on at 5.05. Both teams are quite physical but the referee just blew for ANY tackle, the game had no rhythm at all and was one of the dullest you could wish to see.
If you start sending players off for 50/50 challenges off bouncing balls it would be a real shame.
Agree with the last bit. But that challenge was harsh. However referees need to take practical exams to remain compitent. Too many mistakes in big matches. Bayern Munich didn't even have the right to play MU, Chelsea somehow always get the calls go their way.
Anyway i'm not really a football fan, i'm more into ice hockey and basketball.
Chelsea get things their own way in big matches?
2005 we were knocked out by Liverpool in the Champions League semi final by a goal that has since been proven to of not crossed the line. In last years Champions League semi final we were knocked out by a referee who didn't award 4 penalties, and this year we lost to Inter who got away with 3 blatant penalties over the 2 legs.
I'm an ice hockey fan too, the physical side is brilliant. I'd hate for it ever to become like football has these days where you're almost forbidden from trying to defend.
It's sad when a poster needs to go back 5 years ago to prove a point.
Don't worry about Ice Hockey, it won't change. Footballers are just weaklings. I'm not a Chelsea fan or MU fan. Aston Villa fan and proud!
Eh? The big games for the big teams are the Champions League ones, and there aren't many of them.
Yes, but if the last mistake the ref did to Chelsea was in 2005 then you can't complain.
The last mistakes the referee's did against Chelsea in Europe was last month at Stamford Bridge, Drogba was wrestled to the ground twice on corners and no penalty was awarded. Also in the San Siro in the first leg, Kalou was through on goal when Samuel hauled him over, which would of led to a penalty and a red card for Samuel (who would of missed the second leg in London) which would of been huge.
Who can forget this time last season aswell when Ovrebo the Norwegian referee failed to award any of the 4 penalties that should of been awarded. Barcelona then went on to score with their only shot on goal all game to go through on away goals. Would that of happened if he had awarded just one of the 4 penalties he should of? Of course not.
The 2005 "ghost goal" was just the start of our rotten luck in the big games.
Rubbish he isn't. What he is is accident prone, and his errors concede too many goals. If you like a player who waves his fist in the air and who commentators can describe as "brave", and lots of people do, then you will like Terry.
Have you noticed when a player crashes into another bings them down they always indicate to the ref "I got the ball" like it's some sort of get our of jail card, in truth most people don't realise that the ball isn't mentioned in the laws of the game regarding a foul.Hack a guys knee bfore or after the ball and it doesn't matter where the ball goes or if it changes path.
Terrys tackle deserved a straight red, poor challenge but i on't think it was intentional could of done a lot of damage but the slow motion always makes them look wose. Lets just be thankful Milner isnt an arse player and we dont have to listen to Wenger going on and on.
Point well taken. It's always sad to see a player hurt someone else and fall back on the "I got all ball" excuse and walk away without a warning. Stuff like that, while it is somewhat clean, if intentional deserves a straight red card. I've been a certified (by the national federation) referee for almost 5 years and the only time I've seen a tackle like that go down we had to cart the poor kid off in a stretcher with a broken knee. Ugly, ugly stuff. That's not saying that contact is bad, but reckless contact is a major problem these days.
I'm not sure Terry would've noticed that while the dirty bugger was putting his foot through Milner's leg.
My cousin is too, it was he who used to shout at the players on tv shocked that they didn't know the rules/how ignorant they are.
I think you got it on the head there, contact is necessary, we don't want basketball style games but reckless needs to be (pardon the pun) stamped out.In fact i'd propose the next person who makes a ball shape with his hands at the ref after sliding through an opposition player gets sent off, i'm sure its only when you do that that they unerstand!
Think back to Moore's tackle in the 1970 world cup against Brazil, just waited his moment and pounced.Terry should of known better and if he'd had the sense to stay at the acaemy and finish his training he'd be a better ball winner too, but no he took the easy path, moved to the dark side, only fear and suffering did he find.:|
Noo #### off Spuds, amazing goal from Rose though.
Don't worry about it, there's 3 easy points waiting for you on Saturday, no?
Yeah but we all know the FA is going to ban Tevez for his celebration after his 5th goal, ruining the rest of our season and giving spuds a sliver of hope.
Great result for Spurs... superb goal by Danny Rose... well done monkey boy Gareth Bale!... ( Welsh or not - is there really no way we can't get him into the England team???)... I hereby declare the battle for the 4th Champ.'s Lge spot is on!
Haha, what about the 7-0 thrashing Spurs will take at the weekend?
They'll curl up in a tiny ball and stare into distance for the rest of the season. If you can't grab 4th after that then you've got problems!
Gomes is about to be hunted down by hundreds of angry City fans, just to let you know .
They'd better! Though have to say Chelsea were less than convincing against Bolton so tell those boys to sharpen up for Sunday!
7 points (4 after Saturday) should be enough for 4th from there on out.
Rubbish weren't they.
I think it was a mixture of Bolton playing very well, and Chelsea having a mental dip after huge games against Man Utd and Aston Villa, with Liverpool and Tottenham coming up fast.
Not to mention Drogba getting away with his basketball act.
You and Owen Coyle should really practice your stories!
I found it quite funny how he gave an interview to ESPN, Sky and then the media. In every single one he came out with the exact same line "I know Drogba is a world-class player, but Drogba could play world-class volleyball for anybody on that evidence."
Hilarious! The third time I heard him come out with that little rehearsed anecdote in the space of half an hour, it was Owen Coyle who the joke was on.
But how many times did Chelsea fans come out with the "bawwwwwww we would have been in teh Champions League final if we'd been given twelve blatant penalties."? :roll:
Yup, and blatant penalties they were too! Bolton are crying over a penalty they should of had, yet they also should of had one against them when Zat Knight did exactly the same thing in exactly the same spot towards the end of the game.
Chelsea had one big decision go for them, and one go against them. Same with the Man Utd game, yet you now hear all these Man Utd fans saying that Drogba's offside goal has ruined their season! lol, conveniently forgetting that goal meant nothing as Macheda's handball 30 seconds later cancelled it out.
Spurs have released a DVD after their win yestarday, shows how rare wins are against us. Feel sick, worst defeat of this season by far. Seeing them celebrate like they'd won the world cup was a sickening, yids are a joke.
Scholes wins it for United. Tough loss Breaker, I guess "Fergie time" exists after all. Still, a hell of a clutch goal.
You realise a lot of clubs sell dvds of all their wins. Heck, back in the day you could buy VHS's after every game. Football is a business more than ever today and the club is just trying to profit.
Hopefully Woolwich bounce back next week against City.
1. Yes, a Spurs win against Arsenal is ridiculously rare, hence the big celebrations...?!... love the magnanimous vibes around here eh? :?
2. Can't say I'm wild about the turn of phrase :shock: ... and, yes, we all know that some Spurs fans call themselves this... however, can't help but feel this is pushing being 'acceptable' in the context of where it's being displayed (ie a world-wide forum where thousands from every corner of the globe log on, as opposed to a playground in Holloway), and the intention... is it to offend or be aggressive or provocative or something?...
Don't think that should be seen as offensive. If anything it's a word that represents defiance against racist opposition fans, something to be proud of.
I have YIDDO on the back of my shirt and I'm not Jewish.
Well... ok, maybe some Spurs fans sing this - and ok, some even have it on their backs :roll:, but I stand by what i said:
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