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Poisoned Slice

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Welcome back.

They got outplayed by the Chelsea under 11’s last weekend, but somehow won. Scrappy hoof up the middle, a penalty, scuffed shot that got deflected etc..

I have to admit, I’ve enjoyed all the hype off the back of it this last week knowing they had Wolves coming up. United are still the same team a season last year and Neville and Carragher are fuming about the mess that is the Pogba penalty situation. Normal service has been resumed!
Didn't lose, though. Dominated. It wasn't same old United.

''Something ain't right here.''

OK, maybe it is. I knew it would be tricky game but unfortunate not to win.
 

Tiki-Taka

Hall of Fame
They got outplayed by the Chelsea under 11’s last weekend, but somehow won. Scrappy hoof up the middle, a penalty, scuffed shot that got deflected etc..

I have to admit, I’ve enjoyed all the hype off the back of it this last week knowing they had Wolves coming up. United are still the same team a season last year and Neville and Carragher are fuming about the mess that is the Pogba penalty situation. Normal service has been resumed!
I thought they were outplayed by Chelsea in the first half. But they ran over those kids in the second.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
What was the rationale behind Pogba taking it?
Sounded like a lot of jibber jabber. Ole said that he has 2 penalty takers, and they just sort it out between themselves when a penalty comes. Rashford also defended Pogba. He's all like, sometimes you just wanna take the penalty. OK then. Gary Neville speculating that this could just be Pogba protection. lol
 

Tiki-Taka

Hall of Fame
What am I thinking... I should really stop talking about who outplayed whom. We have lost in such manner plenty of times over the last decade or so and never got sympathy for that, with the simplistic explanations how you don't deserve it if you don't score more than the opponent. Apparently context becomes important when we are discussing someone else. Those who don't like United gave the explanations why they actually didn't deserve to knock out PSG. Then Liverpool's missed opportunities at Camp Nou were quickly pointed out. But ours at Anfield, and Ajax throwing it away as well... Crickets. 4-0. 2-3. Good night Tiki, reality check Tiki, Premier League rules the world...

Si, I can see on myself that even the old frustrations are back. So football is back. And welcome back. (y)
 
Sounded like a lot of jibber jabber. Ole said that he has 2 penalty takers, and they just sort it out between themselves when a penalty comes. Rashford also defended Pogba. He's all like, sometimes you just wanna take the penalty. OK then. Gary Neville speculating that this could just be Pogba protection. lol
Need another scorer. Lindgard looked shambolic today. He got 2-3 perfect deliveries into the box or right outside of it and scuffed all of them.


What am I thinking... I should really stop talking about who outplayed whom. We have lost in such manner plenty of times over the last decade or so and never got sympathy for that, with the simplistic explanations how you don't deserve it if you don't score more than the opponent. Apparently context becomes important when we are discussing someone else. Those who don't like United gave the explanations why they actually didn't deserve to knock out PSG. Then Liverpool's missed opportunities at Camp Nou were quickly pointed out. But ours at Anfield, and Ajax throwing it away as well... Crickets. 4-0. 2-3. Good night Tiki, reality check Tiki, Premier League rules the world...

Si, I can see on myself that even the old frustrations are back. So football is back. And welcome back. (y)
People do that in every sport and it's almost impossible to ever make it not sound like sour grapes. The only thing that matters in football are the goals. Which is why United will once again drop a ton of pts this year that they "shouldn't" have. Because they have very few finishers.
 
What am I thinking... I should really stop talking about who outplayed whom. We have lost in such manner plenty of times over the last decade or so and never got sympathy for that, with the simplistic explanations how you don't deserve it if you don't score more than the opponent. Apparently context becomes important when we are discussing someone else. Those who don't like United gave the explanations why they actually didn't deserve to knock out PSG. Then Liverpool's missed opportunities at Camp Nou were quickly pointed out. But ours at Anfield, and Ajax throwing it away as well... Crickets. 4-0. 2-3. Good night Tiki, reality check Tiki, Premier League rules the world...

Si, I can see on myself that even the old frustrations are back. So football is back. And welcome back. (y)
To clarify I can see how one could argue things such as who outplayed the other but it's arbitrary. The only non arbitrary thing we ever have is the final score. But that's just my take on it. I am not a big fan of moral victories unless the moral victor was a gigantic underdog.

Bamos.
 

Tiki-Taka

Hall of Fame
Coutinho joined Bayern on a season long loan. Dembele set for another five weeks on the sidelines. That kid is actually made of poor quality glass, not just any glass. With Suarez out and Messi doubtful, Griezmann might be all on his own against Betis in our first home game of the season. And the Neymar rumors just won't stop. Poor beginning...
People do that in every sport and it's almost impossible to ever make it not sound like sour grapes. The only thing that matters in football are the goals. Which is why United will once again drop a ton of pts this year that they "shouldn't" have. Because they have very few finishers.
Not replacing Lukaku with anyone will make it tougher, but I think they are not creating a lot for Rashford and Martial to work with anyway. When the opponents keep Pogba quiet, there goes a big threat, and he sometimes does a wonderful job at keeping himself quiet as well. Like today. Mata and Alexis are also too much past it to make the impact they used to be well known for.
To clarify I can see how one could argue things such as who outplayed the other but it's arbitrary. The only non arbitrary thing we ever have is the final score. But that's just my take on it. I am not a big fan of moral victories unless the moral victor was a gigantic underdog.

Bamos.
That explains your massive love towards the Guppy Cups. :whistle::p
 
Coutinho joined Bayern on a season long loan. Dembele set for another five weeks on the sidelines. That kid is actually made of poor quality glass, not just any glass. With Suarez out and Messi doubtful, Griezmann might be all on his own against Betis in our first home game of the season. And the Neymar rumors just won't stop. Poor beginning...

Not replacing Lukaku with anyone will make it tougher, but I think they are not creating a lot for Rashford and Martial to work with anyway. When the opponents keep Pogba quiet, there goes a big threat, and he sometimes does a wonderful job at keeping himself quiet as well. Like today. Mata and Alexis are also too much past it to make the impact they used to be well known for.

That explains your massive love towards the Guppy Cups. :whistle::p
Wigan beating City in the FA Cup Final and then getting relegated in the Premier League speaks to the FA Cup's magnitude.
 
Good night Tiki, reality check Tiki, Premier League rules the world...

(y)
La Liga is better. All the Premier League is any team that plays Liverpool or City park the bus and whoever out of those 2 break more buses throughout the year win the league.

It's incredibly cumbersome to watch. Even Tottenham did nothing but park the bus and counterattack vs City. 30-3 shots. How shambolic.

Thankfully the park the bus stratagem is almost always exposed in the Champions League. Though the away goals rule helps bus companies stay afloat.

However I must say it is highly satisfying when one of the two beats a BUS FC team by like 4-6 goals.
 

TheAssassin

Legend
Frustrating, thought we were in control for majority of the game. But Molineux is a tough trip for many recently so I am at least glad we got it out of the way.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Coutinho joined Bayern on a season long loan. Dembele set for another five weeks on the sidelines. That kid is actually made of poor quality glass, not just any glass. With Suarez out and Messi doubtful, Griezmann might be all on his own against Betis in our first home game of the season. And the Neymar rumors just won't stop. Poor beginning...

Not replacing Lukaku with anyone will make it tougher, but I think they are not creating a lot for Rashford and Martial to work with anyway. When the opponents keep Pogba quiet, there goes a big threat, and he sometimes does a wonderful job at keeping himself quiet as well. Like today. Mata and Alexis are also too much past it to make the impact they used to be well known for.

That explains your massive love towards the Guppy Cups. :whistle::p
Yeah, the creativity is lacking.

I think they are looking to Greenwood as the Lukaku replacement. Didn't exactly get much time to make impact tonight. On with 2 minutes left and injury time. Didn't look threatening in the second half apart from the penalty. James had the difficult first start. Maybe too keen to make an impression even though he came on and scored last week. None of his crosses finding the target. Got booked for diving.

In the end if I'm just considering this one game then. I'm glad we didn't get beat. Wolves are a bit of a recent bogey team. :p
 

Tiki-Taka

Hall of Fame
Wigan beating City in the FA Cup Final and then getting relegated in the Premier League speaks to the FA Cup's magnitude.
That's what cups are for, testing everybody's form in the moment and giving weaker teams a chance, while a European competition is up for grabs for any winner, even extreme, relegated cases like Wigan. No "neutral" wants to see a 6-0 demolition like the last FA Cup final. We see way enough of those matches in the leagues.

Our Copa would have delivered more often recently if there weren't two legs in all rounds before the final. But even before the most modern times, Barca and Real had long droughts in that competition. We are talking 10 and 17 years. Yet it was wonderful witnessing other clubs delivering good football and winning that competition. Well, Espanyol aside. :whistle:
La Liga is better. All the Premier League is any team that plays Liverpool or City park the bus and whoever out of those 2 break more buses throughout the year win the league.

It's incredibly cumbersome to watch. Even Tottenham did nothing but park the bus and counterattack vs City. 30-3 shots. How shambolic.

Thankfully the park the bus stratagem is almost always exposed in the Champions League. Though the away goals rule helps bus companies stay afloat.

However I must say it is highly satisfying when one of the two beats a BUS FC team by like 4-6 goals.
Back when Madrid and us would comfortably finish La Liga with 90+ points, I heard that spoke about the poor quality of the rest. Even though the goal difference is not our first tiebreaker so there is clearly less motivation here to at least keep the scoreline closer once you are getting beaten. And again, no sign of such talk now when City and Liverpool both got nearly 100.

It's not as exposed as much as I would like unfortunately. :confused: But yes, just one bus breaking goal is very satisfying.
 
That's what cups are for, testing everybody's form in the moment and giving weaker teams a chance, while a European competition is up for grabs for any winner, even extreme, relegated cases like Wigan. No "neutral" wants to see a 6-0 demolition like the last FA Cup final. We see way enough of those matches in the leagues.

Our Copa would have delivered more often recently if there weren't two legs in all rounds before the final. But even before the most modern times, Barca and Real had long droughts in that competition. We are talking 10 and 17 years. Yet it was wonderful witnessing other clubs delivering good football and winning that competition. Well, Espanyol aside. :whistle:

Back when Madrid and us would comfortably finish La Liga with 90+ points, I heard that spoke about the poor quality of the rest. Even though the goal difference is not our first tiebreaker so there is clearly less motivation here to at least keep the scoreline closer once you are getting beaten. And again, no sign of such talk now when City and Liverpool both got nearly 100.

It's not as exposed as much as I would like unfortunately. :confused: But yes, just one bus breaking goal is very satisfying.
Barcelona and Real Madrid at their peak teams in the past 10 yrs would have dominated the Premier League too. Liverpool did well to earn England a scrap for themselves in UCL competition. But they've got many more scraps to claim before they can start comparing themselves to the two Spanish giants.

I honestly wish they were all together so we could see for ourselves. And plus it would be a lot more interesting because Tottenham/United/Chelsea/Arsenal are several pegs below City/Liverpool right now. Maybe Tottenham being the closest.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Barcelona and Real Madrid at their peak teams in the past 10 yrs would have dominated the Premier League too. Liverpool did well to earn England a scrap for themselves in UCL competition. But they've got many more scraps to claim before they can start comparing themselves to the two Spanish giants.

I honestly wish they were all together so we could see for ourselves. And plus it would be a lot more interesting because Tottenham/United/Chelsea/Arsenal are several pegs below City/Liverpool right now. Maybe Tottenham being the closest.
We need to give ol Captain Project Justice a call.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Word around the camp fire says that Marcus Rashford is now undisputed number one penalty taker. A shame it was not this way before the match vs Wolves.
 
POGBA SHOWS OFF AND LOSES THE BALL FOR THE HUNDREDTH TIME THAT RESULTS IN CRYSTAL PALACE SCORING IN INJURY TIME

BUT AT LEAST FERNANDES WASN'T SIGNED BECAUSE HE TAKES TOO MANY RISKS AND AT LEAST MATIC WASN'T IN THE LINE UP, AMIRITE?!

FCUK THIS GAME! I QUIT!

See ya tomorrow...
 

Tiki-Taka

Hall of Fame
Maybe next time they will think twice before letting go one of their best midfielders and their best goalscorer, without replacing either one of them.

How can you make that many poor choices in the last several years while having the resources to remain at the top is beyond me... Then again we don't have to look further from our own backyard to find another bad example of that. :cautious:
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Maybe next time they will think twice before letting go one of their best midfielders and their best goalscorer, without replacing either one of them.

How can you make that many poor choices in the last several years while having the resources to remain at the top is beyond me... Then again we don't have to look further from our own backyard to find another bad example of that. :cautious:
I wouldn't expect United to be on top of any maybe next time event. I came out of the Wolves game pretty satisfied but it was unacceptable to lose today. A little heartbreaking in the way football breaks hearts. Palace at home, early season. :/ Then you think the defense is good. Bloody possession, yeah, that is cool if you do something with it like you guys.

The only maybe next time event they have mastered is the art of passing side to side and backwards.
 

Tiki-Taka

Hall of Fame
I wouldn't expect United to be on top of any maybe next time event. I came out of the Wolves game pretty satisfied but it was unacceptable to lose today. A little heartbreaking in the way football breaks hearts. Palace at home, early season. :/ Then you think the defense is good. Bloody possession, yeah, that is cool if you do something with it like you guys.

The only maybe next time event they have mastered is the art of passing side to side and backwards.
We are not doing much with the possession compared to the past either. A lot of opponents have been able to impose their game at their grounds recently. Which is bad news for us since we usually have to dominate. The two Champions League titles we won in this decade were back when we were realistically head and shoulders above the rest. Teams like Real and Liverpool thrive in tight, dramatic situations, which is how they won their recent titles. Manchester United in the past as well... We want to avoid that, which makes it a lot more difficult considering the strong competition at the top.

I guess Ole should give the kids as many chances as possible now, you don't have much to work with anyway. Maybe go for the Europa League... After Sevilla nobody stands out there.
 
I can handle bad results all day long, my anger is directed at how slow and predictable our plays are. Hard to get hypes even after some wins because they don't change much. That's what really exhausts me during and after our games. To make it worse it's Liverpool and City who are enjoying themselves now the most.
 

TheAssassin

Legend
Told ya it wasn't just about Jose. It's going to take a while to find a better manager than him and in the meantime there will be no ideal scapegoat to go after. :whistle:

On to next week. Patience.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Yeah, I'm still happy about the defensive signings and believe my own phase talk. Still doesn't mean Ole can go on and fall way behind. ''Your midfield is competing with Norwich and Sheffield United, mate. Wolves are clearly a step above.'' Can't argue with that

But then just losing 2-1 to Palace is ball busting. Especially when you get late goal to make it 1-1, and then preparing to be a little more happy than you were, despite being unhappy at the result. Then Palace score again. lol Nooooooo.

Was hoping for 7 points at worst at this point. :/
 
Yeah, I'm still happy about the defensive signings and believe my own phase talk. Still doesn't mean Ole can go on and fall way behind. ''Your midfield is competing with Norwich and Sheffield United, mate. Wolves are clearly a step above.'' Can't argue with that

But then just losing 2-1 to Palace is ball busting. Especially when you get late goal to make it 1-1, and then preparing to be a little more happy than you were, despite being unhappy at the result. Then Palace score again. lol Nooooooo.

Was hoping for 7 points at worst at this point. :/
It should have been 7 points now if our guys knew how to take penalties. But then we'd collapse next week, guaranteed.
 

Tiki-Taka

Hall of Fame
Real Madrid only managed a draw in their first home game of the season against Valladolid. Benzema scored a beautiful goal with less than ten minutes left but the guests worked a nice quick move in the 89th minute, finished off by... Guardiola. :D

First home game for us tomorrow as well, and a chance to bounce back from the opening day defeat. Due to Suarez's and Dembele's injuries, as well as Messi being a doubt, several academy players were called, while Rafinha is also expected to join Griezmann in attack.

Whatever the selection, really looking forward to it. Competitive football returns to Camp Nou after over three months, it's been a long wait. Time to react... :)
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
I was keeping my eyes on the Barcelona score. The arrogant one scored a brace, and we had a new youngest player.

Newcastle beat Spurs 1-0. That was kind of wow but not really.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Could be worse, could be Milan. They didn't manage one shot on target against Udinese. They lost 1-0

I misspoke earlier. Ansu Fati became the second youngest player to play for Barcelona.

The 16-year-old replaced Carles Perez after 78 minutes to write his name into the history books, coming behind only Vicente Martinez, who was 18 days younger than Fati when he played for Barcelona in 1941.
 
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Tiki-Taka

Hall of Fame
No Messi, Suarez or Dembele last night, but Barcelona won 5-2 over Betis, equalizing just before halftime and then responding with another four. Most of those who played that game took their opportunities in a 5-2 victory over Real Betis.

Our B team winger Carles Perez was lively and crowned his performance with a nice goal, getting away from his marker with one touch and scoring with the next one into the low corner, just outside the penalty area. Rafinha had another good showing and it would be a shame to lose him. De Jong was the most composed of midfielders. Vidal came off the bench and minutes later finished a quick counter attack move with the most precise of finishes into the very corner.

Pique made his 500th Barcelona appearance. However it's little Anssumane Fati who will never forget this game. Brought on for Perez with a little over 10 minutes left, at only 16 years of age, he became the youngest player to feature for Barcelona since 1941. And he showed no fear, taking players on like he's been there before...

Predictably, the defense wasn't praiseworthy. Couldn't have done anything with Loren's goal, long range rocket that happens. The first one was poor. Loren split it wide open and their new signing Fekir easily finished the move. And it's far easier to threaten our goal these days. That part of the squad is the reason I don't trust this team anymore. You can get away with a bad day in La Liga, but what if Leo and the rest in attack have an average day in Europe?

The one who has made headlines is Griezmann, who scored a brace and assisted on his Camp Nou debut. First time finish from Roberto's chipped ball for the equalizer, and then bending it into the far corner just outside the area for the lead. Kind of Suarez-like and Messi-like goals, fittingly in their absence. He said if he has to say sorry, he will do it on the pitch. This is nowhere close yet, but it's a good start.

May the floodgates open.

 
No Messi, Suarez or Dembele last night, but Barcelona won 5-2 over Betis, equalizing just before halftime and then responding with another four. Most of those who played that game took their opportunities in a 5-2 victory over Real Betis.

Our B team winger Carles Perez was lively and crowned his performance with a nice goal, getting away from his marker with one touch and scoring with the next one into the low corner, just outside the penalty area. Rafinha had another good showing and it would be a shame to lose him. De Jong was the most composed of midfielders. Vidal came off the bench and minutes later finished a quick counter attack move with the most precise of finishes into the very corner.

Pique made his 500th Barcelona appearance. However it's little Anssumane Fati who will never forget this game. Brought on for Perez with a little over 10 minutes left, at only 16 years of age, he became the youngest player to feature for Barcelona since 1941. And he showed no fear, taking players on like he's been there before...

Predictably, the defense wasn't praiseworthy. Couldn't have done anything with Loren's goal, long range rocket that happens. The first one was poor. Loren split it wide open and their new signing Fekir easily finished the move. And it's far easier to threaten our goal these days. That part of the squad is the reason I don't trust this team anymore. You can get away with a bad day in La Liga, but what if Leo and the rest in attack have an average day in Europe?

The one who has made headlines is Griezmann, who scored a brace and assisted on his Camp Nou debut. First time finish from Roberto's chipped ball for the equalizer, and then bending it into the far corner just outside the area for the lead. Kind of Suarez-like and Messi-like goals, fittingly in their absence. He said if he has to say sorry, he will do it on the pitch. This is nowhere close yet, but it's a good start.

May the floodgates open.

Does Dembele deserve to be mentioned with those 2 though :unsure:
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Bury have been expelled by the English Football League after a takeover bid from C&N Sporting Risk collapsed.

The League One club had been given until 17:00 BST on Tuesday to complete the deal, having been granted an extension to Friday's initial deadline.

Bury are the first team to drop out of the EFL since Maidstone's liquidation in 1992.

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Alexis Sanchez completes loan move to Inter.

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Bolton have 14 days to find a buyer or prove they have the funds to complete the season, or they will be expelled from the English Football League.

The EFL suspended the withdrawal notice while Bolton, in administration since May, negotiated a proposed takeover by Football Ventures (Whites) Limited.

It appeared the sale collapsed on Saturday, with administrators saying the club was close to liquidation.


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Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
I find the situation with Bury to be quite heartbreaking. The football fan part of me wonders which team the fans will now support. :( Things like this can ruin life. Expelled from the league after 125 years.

Bury captain Neil Danns delivered a strong message to owner Steve Dale yesterday.
''I would say look what you’ve done. This should never have happened. If you thought you could not move this club forward in a positive way you should never have taken over because you’ve literally destroyed lives, because that’s what this football club meant to so many fans. When you see the devastation of the fans I just think I have to say something. It’s unbelievable. I still can’t believe it. We have been in as normal, training. I don’t think anyone really believed that this was going to happen. We were just preparing every single week as though the next game was going to be on, the next game was going to be on. For it to happen so suddenly, it’s still really unbelievable. For a club with so much history and that has added so much to the league, for it to just be gone like that is just unimaginable.”

Danns was captain of the side that won promotion from League Two last season.
''I’ve come to have a special bond with the fans and created some amazing memories, especially last year. At this moment in time I just feel for them the most because you have got people who have been going to the game for years. It’s like every story, you go to the game with your Grandad, your Mum, your Dad, your brothers, it’s such a community. It means so much to people. For me, it’s starting to hit me harder because I have got young sons myself. I know what it is like to take them to watch my boyhood team Liverpool and the bond that gives us. To see that taken away from future fans is just devastating. Football brings not just football on the pitch but it is so much more than that. This whole situation just does not feel real.”


Absolutely heartbreaking. :(
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Still shocked at how such a thing could happen. Red Nev and Phil are obviously devastated. Family worked there for years, we have a stand named after Neville Neville. Desperate altogether. :mad:
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Bolton will not suffer the same fate as Bury. Their takeover has been completed. The latest news says Bury now have a consortium that can prove they have funds. etc Maybe this will have a happy ending.

About time to go back to talking about United. Luke Shaw being out for five weeks means the time might be coming for ''the next Dennis Irwin'' Brandon Williams. Ole did say he would be hoping that Williams will provide stiff competition for Shaw. Hope to see him in on Saturday. Can't help but think it will be Ashley Young out there instead.
 
Red Star have qualified for the Champions League for a second season in a row, once again after going through all four qualifying rounds, and will face Bayern, Tottenham and Olympiacos in the group stages.

Less difficult than the absolute group of death that had Liverpool, PSG and Napoli last season, where we still managed to earn 4 points. Although at one point when I saw Barca, Dortmund and Inter waiting for the fourth opponent, I could have totally seen Sneijder and Cech drawing us with them. :laughing:
 
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