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Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Controversy in the Bayern Munich and Dortmund match.

Jude Bellingham hit out at the performance of Zwayer during the 3-2 defeat as Dortmund were left frustrated after the referee turned down appeals for a penalty - only to award Bayern one for a Mats Hummels handball.

And after the game Bellingham told ViaPlay: "You give a referee, that has match fixed before, the biggest game in Germany, what do you expect?

Yeah, I would expect more cheating. :/ If he's done it once, he is gone. That's really disturbing that a known cheat gets to call games.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Nice wee documentary about Pierluigi Collina. :love:


Samuel Kuffour showing that it is much more than a game. Always felt sympathy for him. Not so much for Oliver Kahn. haha
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Expecting a few changes tomorrow. The perfect game in a way. Can give the players a go and you don't have to worry about the result. The fixture list does look quite dreamy if we're just going by names. Excited.

It's all kickin off in Leipzig vs City. Kyle Walker sent off not long after City got back into the game.
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Both Milan and Atletico heading out the way this is going. Dortmund already out. Barcelona could follow.

Just had to check all group standings and OF COURSE Sevilla are third in their group at the moment. Everyone thinking what I am thinking... :laughing:
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Atletico go through. Milan finish bottom of the group.

Maybe it will even help focusing on the title race, who knows. All other contenders in Italy will play European matches in spring.

40 year old Zlatan leading the Rossoneri to old glory. Imagine that...
Been sitting here for about an hour and I'm still no closer to knowing. :p What's on your mind?
That they will win Europa League again. :D
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Michael Owen is going in on the group of death here.

''Won all 6 games. Some group of death.''

''The names are more powerful than their football. Man Utd style.'' OK, he didn't actually say the Man Utd bit.

''Bayern Munich, PSG or an English team will win this.'' Yes, leave the options open. Hail England.
 

Kralingen

Legend
Spurs have been absolutely lit up by COVID. 10 healthy first team players for the match vs Rennes tomorrow, basically more than half the first team squad and coaches have it.

As much as I want to just chalk it up to “Spursy” I think this will be a larger trend in football and we’ll see a lot of outbreaks this winter. Omicron is not playing around even with the vaccinated.
 

bezs

G.O.A.T.
Bayern are on a mission, good luck to Barca. Lewa is out for blood to make up for the Ballon'dor debacle.
 

Hamnavoe

Hall of Fame
The Scottish Championship has been exciting this year, separating into two groups of five with just three points between top and bottom in each of these mini-leagues.

It's been so exciting, in fact, that Hibs are doing their due best to get in on all the fun next season!
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Feels like wasted time. No stakes and never saw some of the players who were on the pitch today.

But there is a positive. After years and years, a Nemanja was the captain again. :cool::p
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
So PSG, Atletico, Inter, Salzburg, Benfica and Sporting are the possible opponents in last 16. Barring drawing Paris obviously, a quarterfinal is on the cards. Especially if Ralf gets us playing some decent stuff by February. And the upcoming schedule gives decent opportunity for that.

Barcelona, Dortmund, Leipzig, Milan, Sevilla all out. Ouch.
 

Tiki-Taka

Rookie
Although Benfica haven't showed some drastic improvement compared to their other continental campaigns in recent years by any means, we certainly don't belong in the last 16. Losing to Bayern is what everyone expected. But two lousy goals in six games, both in narrow wins against Kiev... Painful to see but Europa League is where Barca belong now and probably will in the next season too. So much for Leo's dictatorship holding other talents back. Look at this...

Best of luck to Manchester and Atletico in the knockout stages. Long shot for both of them but it would be great to see a relative underdog triumph.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
It was quite something to have Robbie Savage on commentary when his son came on for his debut in the closing moments. Not sure if I've ever seen a situation the same as this. Charlie actually making an appearance for the first team. Robbie was part of the goat youth team but never made it to the first team. Emotional.
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
After an away draw against Braga, and Midtylland failing to win their game, Red Star top their Europa League group and qualify for the last 16.

Second ranked teams in Europa League groups will play an extra knockout round starting from last 32, where they will be paired with those clubs who finished third in the Champions League groups.

Now here is a sentence I never thought I'd say in my lifetime. If Barcelona want to potentially meet Red Star, they will have to get through the last 32 stage in February first. WE are waiting for THEM to join. :-D:-D
 

Federer and Del Potro

Talk Tennis Guru
After an away draw against Braga, and Midtylland failing to win their game, Red Star top their Europa League group and qualify for the last 16.

Second ranked teams in Europa League groups will play an extra knockout round starting from last 32, where they will be paired with those clubs who finished third in the Champions League groups.

Now here is a sentence I never thought I'd say in my lifetime. If Barcelona want to potentially meet Red Star, they will have to get through the last 32 stage in February first. WE are waiting for THEM to join. :-D:-D
United wins UCL. Red Star wins Europa. Scenes
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Leicester out. Wee Brendan is suffering. o_O He doesn't know which competition he is playing in now. Thought he would have known with the United link. But, we're still in top 4ions league. wooohoo
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Cambiasso wants Inter drawn against United. Not because of where we are, but because of where he thinks we will be by the time we could play them. Right on, playa.

“I am convinced that United in February with Rangnick, who have very clearly in mind what they want to do, will be another team. They will have the ability to fight, in the transfer market, they will do a lot.

“I did not choose them because they are the weakest but because it is the most suggestive test for Inter.”

Looking forward to Saturday memes. :cool:
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
It's still not quite Milan style swarming when we lose the ball. That Arrigo Sacchi stuff was something else, but we're only beginning here with much less quality players.

Managed to find an ESPN stream. It's kinda sweet listening to them because my Spanish is ''a little rusty.'' It sounds like they're hyped. McTominay will be hyped because he won the ball back in the final third again before we did nothing with it again. Well, woohoo. Not much else to get excited about so far.
 
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Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
He plays on the left, he plays on the righhhhhhhtt.

Commentary was fabulous. goal goal goal goal!!!!!! Ronaldo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That would have been so like United to concede just after taking the lead. DDG with a couple of very good saves tonight.

Norwich going for it now. Looking dangerous.

Rashford with a lovely run and puts it on the plate for Ronaldo. One of those put your house on him to score and end out on the street. Bruno with a chance soon after that and then Donny got his 7 minutes. (y)
 
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Federer and Del Potro

Talk Tennis Guru
He plays on the left, he plays on the righhhhhhhtt.

Commentary was fabulous. goal goal goal goal!!!!!! Ronaldo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That would have been so like United to concede just after taking the lead. DDG with a couple of very good saves tonight.

Norwich going for it now. Looking dangerous.

Rashford with a lovely run and puts it on the plate for Ronaldo. One of those put your house on him to score and end out on the street. Bruno with a chance soon after that and then Donny got his 7 minutes. (y)
The last sentence lmao
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
The last sentence lmao
It would have been even funnier if no injury time. Going into the 88th minute and he comes in. Got those precious extra five minutes. The minions are doing the post match ratings thing. Unbearable, had to turn it off.

Or maybe I'm giving Rashford too much credit for his late run and the almost assist. Nah, I think I know their system well enough on the United stand. ''No agendas or anything here, lads. We're a democracy.'' lol
 

Federer and Del Potro

Talk Tennis Guru
It would have been even funnier if no injury time. Going into the 88th minute and he comes in. Got those precious extra five minutes. The minions are doing the post match ratings thing. Unbearable, had to turn it off.

Or maybe I'm giving Rashford too much credit for his late run and the almost assist. Nah, I think I know their system well enough on the United stand. ''No agendas or anything here, lads. We're a democracy.'' lol
“Your opinion is dead wrong. Thanks for the super chat” - Goldbridge
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
“Your opinion is dead wrong. Thanks for the super chat” - Goldbridge
If you give Fred or McTominay more than a 6 then you're out of your mind. They are just not good enough. We're MANCHESTER UNITED!''

Ralfmao.

But yeah, I do agree with some of his points, of course. Bringing Greenwood on as a number 10 is still baffling. I'm not even convinced with Sancho there. but I haven't seen enough yet and if the manager his preferred formation then we gotta get used to it. Just hope we do get some business done in January.
 

Hamnavoe

Hall of Fame
I have decided that I am going to use some words. Maybe it will be cathartic. Whatever the case I just want somewhere to denounce today's events for future record.

Never before have I seen such a disgusting and shameful cup final display. I say that having seen my team get skelped 5-1 by our city rivals in one. But in that case there were mitigating circumstances. The team was crap, full to the brim of journeyman, and had only just escaped relegation ahead of skint Dunfermline, while Hearts had assembled a team with money they didn't really have and were given a big helping hand by some dodgy refereeing decisions. Today there were no such excuses. The team had finished third, the club's highest finish in 16 years, and we had a golden opportunity for revenge against a functional St Johnstone team who had embarrassed us in the League Cup earlier in the year.

Hibs were a team with a point to prove and a cup to win. But today, there were players strolling around the park like it was a pre season friendly, while their opponents in blue harried and fought for every ball as thought it was the biggest game of their lives. I have specific criticism for several players:

Joe Newell struts around like he's Andrea Pirlo when he has the vision of Andrea Bocelli. A midfielder who offers no drive nor intensity, just aimless sideways passing which St Johnstone were only too happy to see.

Ryan Porteous - a rash, immature, error-prone shambles of a defender who never should have been playing and must be sold to the first mid level English championship club foolish enough to take him off our hands.

Jackson Irvine - I would compare him to a giraffe, but I think a giraffe could control a ball a bit better. A useless lump of a midfielder, genuinely among the worst I've seen.

Kevin Nisbet - a player who didn't much impress me early in the season despite scoring quite a bit, though I had turned around a bit on him recently after some good displays. Today completely vindicated my earlier impressions - a player who offers nothing physically, afraid to work and get stuck in, and for a striker he never seems to make runs nor get into positions to shoot. I thought his attitude was disgraceful and a slap in the face to any Hibs fan.

But the main man with whom I have a gripe is the manager, Jack Ross. I have never liked this guy. He's totally uninspiring, dull as dishwater, and his teams reflect that. Although we finished in a good position, this season has been an endless dirge of dreary industrial hoofball, scraping wins against the likes of Kilmarnock and St Mirren, while dutifully bowing down to the opposition in any game of note.

Ross' big game record is an embarrassment. 0 from 11 against the Old Firm. 1 from 3 against an awful Hearts team, including a humiliating home thrashing and a Scottish Cup semi-final loss. 1 from 4 at Hampden, with the only win coming against a terrible Dundee United side and the other defeat being a 3-0 humping off of St Johnstone in the League Cup, as alluded to previously.

When I look at Jack Ross, I don't see a leader of men. A competent coach, perhaps; he's shown he can put a team out to win fairly regularly. But in games that matter, his teams fail consistently, and they fail abysmally. Hibs had lost their last three games to St Johnstone without scoring prior to today. Ross' tactical genius saw him use... exactly the same line up that had delivered those abject losses.

In the future, I see no signs of change. With Hearts returning to the top flight, I expect to see more limp derby defeats. Perhaps another cup run or two before getting walked over by the first halfway competent team we meet. But hey, I'm sure we'll have some nice 2-1 wins over Ross County to cherish, and we might even get to enjoy getting pumped out of the Europa League third qualifying round by the fifth best team in Cyprus or whatever.

If Ross has any shame he will resign. If he refuses, he must be pushed. But unfortunately neither of those things will happen. He's too safe, too steady, too bloody dreary to fire. And so he and his insipid team must be endured for several more years.

Congratulations again to St Johnstone. They showed today what a real team with a real manager looks like, and the cup double is a remarkable achievement for a club of their size. (y)
I remember writing this post and decided to look back at it in the wake of recent goings-on. I think it stands up well barring a few aspects. I don't know what Ryan Porteous had done to enrage me so but I don't think he deserved an entry on the player roll of shame (the other three I stand by). In the end we got pumped out of the Conference League third qualifying round by the third best team in Croatia. And as of earlier this week we will no longer have to endure any more of Jack Ross and his insipid team, contrary to what I had thought.

After a run of 4 points from 9 games, with the only win in that period coming against a St Johnstone side who had 10 men and have since fallen to bottom of the table, Ross was dismissed. The wheels falling off hasn't surprised me at all and it shouldn't have surprised anyone who had paid attention throughout the rest of Ross' tenure.

I was surprised at the timing of the decision, coming just 10 days before a League Cup final against Celtic (the reaching of which Ross deserves credit for, particularly the semi-final win against Rangers), but I'm certainly glad to be rid of the stench of dreariness and apathy that he brought around with him, reflected in his team's performances and the half-empty stadiums. Some of what Ross did might look good on Wikipedia, but in terms of fan engagement he's once and for all banished the feel good factor that persisted for several years after our long-awaited Scottish Cup win in 2016.

Jack Ross is an archetypal figure of which there are currently quite a few and will be many more to come. Young, well-dressed, nice stern-looking stare, talks like a manager is expected to, but utterly lacking in character and vision. Sometimes these managers will stumble onto a good mix of players and it all goes well for them. Sometimes it'll go as it's gone for Jack Ross lately and they'll be sacked. Either way I don't think they're really making much of a difference other than being a sort of honorary mascot.

If Hibs go into the market for another of this sort, who the media are all too keen to suggest, we'll go back to our usual cycle of being vaguely mid-table, if not lower, with the odd good season thrown in. We're at a crossroads and we've got an opportunity to break the mould and try something a bit different.

There needs to be a coherent structure in terms of recruitment, with players recruited with a particular style in mind. The current squad is a mishmash of players signed by several different regimes, and as such they don't gel all that well and there's no real playing style. The manager should be someone who buys into the playing style but he shouldn't have a say in the transfer business. He's just a placeholder who'll get picked up by someone higher up in the food chain if he does well. Just implementing this basic structure in place I believe would give us a big advantage over our rivals, who will continue muddling along playing the same game that sees them cycle through managers, players and styles while shooting up and down the table.

Will something like this happen? Maybe. Our current owner, an American man named Ron Gordon, has been in charge for two years now and clearly has ambition, but I think he's going to be learning about Scottish football the hard way. He's learnt a bit already - big screens and more pie options won't get people into the stadium, a winning team that people enjoy watching will, and that's why he's been so decisive in getting rid of Ross. Whether he has the vision to set out a clear long-term plan or if he'll simply pick up another conveyor belt manager and give them a bit of money to spend in the hope of turning our fortunes around before giving them the boot when things go awry, I don't know. I'd probably lean towards the latter being the more likely option. I'd prefer the other one, but there are much worse places to be than a mid-table Premiership side with the occasional cup success and exciting team.
 

Fabresque

Hall of Fame
Manchester United are currently on a two game winning run and have kept two clean sheets in both. That’s more under Rangnick in two games than Ole’s entire 21/22 campaign.

Gary Neville’s response was to call out Diogo Dalot and Alex Telles and say they’re “not good enough” and actively advocated the return of Aaron Wan-Bissaka and Luke Shaw. Two players who, when they did play, were conceding 4 goals every week.

Why does Mr. Neville say that? Because he’s English. It is not the first time he’s been caught saying xenophobic comments to a non-English player while praising a far worse English one.

Throughout David Luiz’s professional career, he’s won league titles in 3 different countries, a domestic treble in France, and a Champions League. All while consistently playing in these sides. According to Gary Neville, he is “uncoachable”, a “nightmare to work with”, and “a PlayStation player”.

In Harry Maguire’s professional career, he has won zero trophies. He has consistently failed everywhere he has played in. During the 2021/22 season, he was consistently ar fault for a goal or two every single weekend Manchester United had played.

Gary Neville, November 2021: “Harry Maguire is a brilliant defender, he’s going through a rough patch at the moment, but he is a fantastic footballer.”

Gary Neville, a xenophobic shambles of a reporter.
 

TheAssassin

Legend
Got to milk the Messi vs Ronaldo thing while there is still a chance I guess. The favorite is obvious but it should be tough for both. Especially if there is some decent gameplan and momentum built by then.

Intrigued to see which team will @Tiki-Taka root for. :D
 

Federer and Del Potro

Talk Tennis Guru
What makes you think there won't be any goliath to face in the next rounds? Come on man...
Have to get to the next rounds first. Wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t beat Atletico given the volatility. I’d rather see PSG now and hope the coin flip lands on “good” United. More teams in front just more chances to fail. Not sure I’d consider them a favorite versus Atletico either so I’d rather be the underdog versus a team that got more than a whopping 7 pts in qualifying. Not much glory beating them. PSG though they’d never forget it if there was an upset.
 

TheAssassin

Legend
Can't wait for PSG vs Real Madrid. Tough to predict that one.

Seems obligatory nowadays that City and Bayern avoid being part of any interesting ties in earlier rounds. Lame.

Ajax can go far again. Drawn Benfica.
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Have to get to the next rounds first. Wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t beat Atletico given the volatility. I’d rather see PSG now and hope the coin flip lands on “good” United. More teams in front just more chances to fail. Not sure I’d consider them a favorite versus Atletico either so I’d rather be the underdog versus a team that got more than a whopping 7 pts in qualifying. Not much glory beating them. PSG though they’d never forget it if there was an upset.
A lot worse teams than Atletico could be called an even opponent to us if we go deep into our volatility issue but I think it's clear that of all the possible draws now PSG were the toughest by far, while in the latter stages they would be just one of several difficult opponents that we would inevitably play then. Yes got to get there first and there is regularly going to be worry of losing to someone inferior on paper but having some hellish sequence of PSG - Liverpool - Bayern for us while City clean their balls in guppy aquariums for the umpteenth time, just for the sake of us trying to gain some glory by beating one Goliath or two, really doesn't sound appealing either.

Tl dr version, I'd rather we "warm up" against someone less good and then chase that glory in latter rounds when it's not just the upset itself that is at stakes.
 

Tiki-Taka

Rookie
Barcelona and Napoli met in the first Champions League knockout round in 2020.

Two years later, the two teams will face each other in the first knockout round of Europa League.
Best of luck to Manchester and Atletico in the knockout stages. Long shot for both of them but it would be great to see a relative underdog triumph.
Would you look at that, one of them will definitely go out. :cautious:
Intrigued to see which team will @Tiki-Taka root for lol...
If it was Manchester against Paris?

 
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