The underestimated athletic means of Jannik Sinner

Sinner athletically one of the best tennis players around?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 63.3%
  • No

    Votes: 11 36.7%

  • Total voters
    30

Winner Sinner

Hall of Fame
Mine is more of a rhetorical question, you just need to have two eyes to give an affirmative answer to the question. Sinner in the past has often been compared to Djokovic and today the comparison is increasingly popular, the Serbian legend himself in the press conference after the Shanghai final essentially decreed him as his heir. At most in terms of the game there are some similarities in how both exert strong pressure from the back of the court to strangle their opponent, but also substantial differences considering that Djokovic strangles and above all strangled his opponents by weaving his web, therefore maneuvering the exchange at will from both sides making the unfortunate player on duty act as a windshield wiper until the opponent, exhausted by his continuous search for angles, metaphorically threw in the towel on the ground (the 2013 Australian Open semifinal against Ferrer is emblematic). Sinner, on the other hand, exerts his constant pressure from the back of the court in a much more linear way, therefore without seeking too many open angles, but at the same time with a much more violent and aggressive and less measured rhythm, due to the fact that his ball travels much faster than the Serb's has ever traveled. No, for me the aspect where Sinner is increasingly approaching Djokovic consists in the coverage of the court, which then reflects on the ability to know how to defend himself in an excellent way in situations where the opponent has apparently taken command of the exchange, thanks precisely to those defensive skills that Sinner is continuing to develop, he manages, as Djokovic had accustomed us, to often overturn the inertia of the exchange. In short, as I have already had the opportunity to say in another thread, the secret of Pulcinella of this sensational escalation of Sinner in the last 12 months consists mainly in his movement, he is increasingly quick, fast and coordinated, and all this is reflected in a total mastery in the exchanges where he allows himself fewer and fewer unforced errors compared to the past, taking full control of them. Even when lately, due to force majeure, his opponents set up a more aggressive and risky tactical plan against him, he incredibly does not lose his composure and manages to be so much in control of the exchange. Yesterday during the exhibition match with Medvedev, the Italian commentator who commentated on the match underlined how on the court Sinner gives the impression of skating so much is his ease in moving around that is negligible. And I would like to remind you that he combines all this with great balance skills that he has had with him since he was a kid excelling in the national alpine skiing categories younger in the most technical specialty of all, the giant. So if we consider that we are talking about a player who is 1m93 tall with a great wingspan, just to get back to the focal point of the thread, we can say that Sinner is one of the best athletic freaks that have been seen in the history of tennis.
 

GloW

Professional
Mine is more of a rhetorical question, you just need to have two eyes to give an affirmative answer to the question. Sinner in the past has often been compared to Djokovic and today the comparison is increasingly popular, the Serbian legend himself in the press conference after the Shanghai final essentially decreed him as his heir. At most in terms of the game there are some similarities in how both exert strong pressure from the back of the court to strangle their opponent, but also substantial differences considering that Djokovic strangles and above all strangled his opponents by weaving his web, therefore maneuvering the exchange at will from both sides making the unfortunate player on duty act as a windshield wiper until the opponent, exhausted by his continuous search for angles, metaphorically threw in the towel on the ground (the 2013 Australian Open semifinal against Ferrer is emblematic). Sinner, on the other hand, exerts his constant pressure from the back of the court in a much more linear way, therefore without seeking too many open angles, but at the same time with a much more violent and aggressive and less measured rhythm, due to the fact that his ball travels much faster than the Serb's has ever traveled. No, for me the aspect where Sinner is increasingly approaching Djokovic consists in the coverage of the court, which then reflects on the ability to know how to defend himself in an excellent way in situations where the opponent has apparently taken command of the exchange, thanks precisely to those defensive skills that Sinner is continuing to develop, he manages, as Djokovic had accustomed us, to often overturn the inertia of the exchange. In short, as I have already had the opportunity to say in another thread, the secret of Pulcinella of this sensational escalation of Sinner in the last 12 months consists mainly in his movement, he is increasingly quick, fast and coordinated, and all this is reflected in a total mastery in the exchanges where he allows himself fewer and fewer unforced errors compared to the past, taking full control of them. Even when lately, due to force majeure, his opponents set up a more aggressive and risky tactical plan against him, he incredibly does not lose his composure and manages to be so much in control of the exchange. Yesterday during the exhibition match with Medvedev, the Italian commentator who commentated on the match underlined how on the court Sinner gives the impression of skating so much is his ease in moving around that is negligible. And I would like to remind you that he combines all this with great balance skills that he has had with him since he was a kid excelling in the national alpine skiing categories younger in the most technical specialty of all, the giant. So if we consider that we are talking about a player who is 1m93 tall with a great wingspan, just to get back to the focal point of the thread, we can say that Sinner is one of the best athletic freaks that have been seen in the history of tennis.
F this website im not reading that.
 

Robert F

Hall of Fame
I leaned towards yes.

We have since his power baseline game grow almost exponentially in the past 3 years.
But what has really improved is his court coverage.

The combination of the two allows him to hit through many players. Watching Sinner hit fairly easily through Tommy Paul, who has great court covering skills and ability to take the ball on the rise was mind blowing.
The consistency he brings with that level of power is amazing.

He doesn't have the best court coverage in the game, but it has really amped up this past year and some of the offense he brings on the defense is next level.

His strength off both wings, with great court coverage and great returns have allowed him to dominate with moderately good serve and forecourt skills.
Pretty impressive.
 

Purestriker

Legend
Those two things go hand in hand, kiddo.
No, most non-tennis athletes take PED's to get stronger. In other sports, they take them because of the grind so that they can actually perform at a standard level (Barry Bonds vs. a Cyclist). Sharpova wasn't trying to add muscle mass.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Gut Reaction: I need at least three eyes to read this.
Can you edit this into paragraphs?

I think he's quite athletic, but don't know how to compare this with others on tour. Alcaraz and ...still...Djokovic...impress me as superior athletes.
He can probably hang with most of the rest of the tour.
 

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
Stop trying to make Fetch (Exciting Sinner) happen. It's not going to happen.
He is one of the most athletic players on tour. The ability to hit with that power and recover every single shot back into position is absurd. The stamina needed for that continuous power is also elite.

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Bill Lobsalot

Hall of Fame
Mine is more of a rhetorical question, you just need to have two eyes to give an affirmative answer to the question. Sinner in the past has often been compared to Djokovic and today the comparison is increasingly popular, the Serbian legend himself in the press conference after the Shanghai final essentially decreed him as his heir. At most in terms of the game there are some similarities in how both exert strong pressure from the back of the court to strangle their opponent, but also substantial differences considering that Djokovic strangles and above all strangled his opponents by weaving his web, therefore maneuvering the exchange at will from both sides making the unfortunate player on duty act as a windshield wiper until the opponent, exhausted by his continuous search for angles, metaphorically threw in the towel on the ground (the 2013 Australian Open semifinal against Ferrer is emblematic). Sinner, on the other hand, exerts his constant pressure from the back of the court in a much more linear way, therefore without seeking too many open angles, but at the same time with a much more violent and aggressive and less measured rhythm, due to the fact that his ball travels much faster than the Serb's has ever traveled. No, for me the aspect where Sinner is increasingly approaching Djokovic consists in the coverage of the court, which then reflects on the ability to know how to defend himself in an excellent way in situations where the opponent has apparently taken command of the exchange, thanks precisely to those defensive skills that Sinner is continuing to develop, he manages, as Djokovic had accustomed us, to often overturn the inertia of the exchange. In short, as I have already had the opportunity to say in another thread, the secret of Pulcinella of this sensational escalation of Sinner in the last 12 months consists mainly in his movement, he is increasingly quick, fast and coordinated, and all this is reflected in a total mastery in the exchanges where he allows himself fewer and fewer unforced errors compared to the past, taking full control of them. Even when lately, due to force majeure, his opponents set up a more aggressive and risky tactical plan against him, he incredibly does not lose his composure and manages to be so much in control of the exchange. Yesterday during the exhibition match with Medvedev, the Italian commentator who commentated on the match underlined how on the court Sinner gives the impression of skating so much is his ease in moving around that is negligible. And I would like to remind you that he combines all this with great balance skills that he has had with him since he was a kid excelling in the national alpine skiing categories younger in the most technical specialty of all, the giant. So if we consider that we are talking about a player who is 1m93 tall with a great wingspan, just to get back to the focal point of the thread, we can say that Sinner is one of the best athletic freaks that have been seen in the history of tennis.
Do you still have those Sinner posters on your bedroom wall? Didn't read your post due to length and lack of proper paragraphing.
 

RSJfan

Hall of Fame
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Winner Sinner

Hall of Fame
Do you still have those Sinner posters on your bedroom wall? Didn't read your post due to length and lack of proper paragraphing.
No, don't worry, never had the Sinner poster. And by the way, you know how much I care that Bill Lobsalot (who?) didn't read my comment, less than zero. Goodbye
 

Winner Sinner

Hall of Fame
Lots of people underestimated the sheer strength of very tall but lanky people...
You hit the point. It is clear that Sinner's movement is not as fluid as that of the best Djokovic, nor as explosive as that of Alcaraz or prime Nadal, but if we consider everything based on his physical structure, the Italian also combines first-rate athletic means. How many centimeters of difference in height are there between him and Djokovic, 6 (1m93 vs 1m87)? and between him and Alcaraz 10(1m93 vs 1m83)?
This must also be taken into account, theoretically the taller you are and the less mobility you have, the taller you are and the more effort you have to coordinate compared to someone with a low center of gravity. Also for this reason I consider Medvedev and Zverev themselves, i.e. players who are close to 2m, to be super athletes.
 

JMR

Hall of Fame
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Interestingly, the faux Latin that is used to fill up space in layouts is actually known as "greeking."
 

Net Beast

Rookie
OP, you should learn how to use paragraphs. Nobody is asking you to write a Shakespearean sonnet, or to format your posts using stanzas. But a paragraph here and there would be appreciated.

Really appreciated.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Mine is more of a rhetorical question, you just need to have two eyes to give an affirmative answer to the question. Sinner in the past has often been compared to Djokovic and today the comparison is increasingly popular, the Serbian legend himself in the press conference after the Shanghai final essentially decreed him as his heir. At most in terms of the game there are some similarities in how both exert strong pressure from the back of the court to strangle their opponent, but also substantial differences considering that Djokovic strangles and above all strangled his opponents by weaving his web, therefore maneuvering the exchange at will from both sides making the unfortunate player on duty act as a windshield wiper until the opponent, exhausted by his continuous search for angles, metaphorically threw in the towel on the ground (the 2013 Australian Open semifinal against Ferrer is emblematic). Sinner, on the other hand, exerts his constant pressure from the back of the court in a much more linear way, therefore without seeking too many open angles, but at the same time with a much more violent and aggressive and less measured rhythm, due to the fact that his ball travels much faster than the Serb's has ever traveled. No, for me the aspect where Sinner is increasingly approaching Djokovic consists in the coverage of the court, which then reflects on the ability to know how to defend himself in an excellent way in situations where the opponent has apparently taken command of the exchange, thanks precisely to those defensive skills that Sinner is continuing to develop, he manages, as Djokovic had accustomed us, to often overturn the inertia of the exchange. In short, as I have already had the opportunity to say in another thread, the secret of Pulcinella of this sensational escalation of Sinner in the last 12 months consists mainly in his movement, he is increasingly quick, fast and coordinated, and all this is reflected in a total mastery in the exchanges where he allows himself fewer and fewer unforced errors compared to the past, taking full control of them. Even when lately, due to force majeure, his opponents set up a more aggressive and risky tactical plan against him, he incredibly does not lose his composure and manages to be so much in control of the exchange. Yesterday during the exhibition match with Medvedev, the Italian commentator who commentated on the match underlined how on the court Sinner gives the impression of skating so much is his ease in moving around that is negligible. And I would like to remind you that he combines all this with great balance skills that he has had with him since he was a kid excelling in the national alpine skiing categories younger in the most technical specialty of all, the giant. So if we consider that we are talking about a player who is 1m93 tall with a great wingspan, just to get back to the focal point of the thread, we can say that Sinner is one of the best athletic freaks that have been seen in the history of tennis.

Super long post, but I managed to read it. The comparison to Djokovic is true, but not sure we need another thread about it.

So, the heart of this is that Sinner posses incredible balance, which is very true. Has he grown athletically? Yes.

Is he one of the most athletic on Tour? It's hard to say because he's also faced quite a few injuries. Like to see him go a year without a retirement.
 

Better_Call_Raul

Hall of Fame
LOL. If you were going to take PED"s for tennis, it would be about recovery and not athletic gains.

No, most non-tennis athletes take PED's to get stronger.
In other sports, they take them because of the grind so that they can actually perform at a standard level (Barry Bonds vs. a Cyclist). Sharpova wasn't trying to add muscle mass.


This is an interesting splitting of hairs that you make.
If it is the case that clostebol merely aids in recovery and does not raise actual tennis level perhaps it should just be legalized for all.
 

1H-Backhand

Rookie
Voted no.

If he was so athletic he wouldnt need PEDs.
Watch out mate, you risk getting sued for defamation. He might get a suspension for negligence (though that would be unfair) but everyone, including WADA, have ascertained he is super clean.
 
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