Sentinel
Bionic Poster
I hate to be the one to say it ... is it nadal-Freak aka backhand-winner ?
^^The US Open 2009 - Men's Singles Draw Thread!^^
- Thread starter GasquetGOAT
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Yeah, sure.. it's hard to do mentally, no doubt. People are just too quick to say players have a mental block. I for one feel Roddick, despite his miserable record does NOT have a mental block against Federer. He's just a horrible matchup. Sure because of that he has tried things in the past he shouldn't have tried, but it's rather Fed neutralizing his biggest weapon than Fed gettin in Roddick's head.
People said Del Potro was a mental midget when he went down to Fed in Australia and Madrid easily. That he was looking up to Fed way too much etc. etc. Well, guess what.. he IS looking up to Federer, but still threw the kitchen sink at him in one of the biggest matches of Federer's life.
Sure, Ferrer, Robredo, they've never beaten the mighty Fed, and it'll make them maybe make a poor decision sometimes.. but they ALSO just don't have the weapons to hurt Federer for instance. Ferrer is a grinder, a man who knows how to fight. He won't hand it to Federer.
I agree that Roddick seems to be the kind of guy that's not easily intimidated, and I haven't seen him choke important points against Federer very often. However as I said it also works in reverse, and I'm pretty sure Federer plays the tight points much better against Roddick than against Nadal, because he feels confident he can always beat Roddick.
With Del Potro, I don't think him pushing Federer to 5 sets at the FO means he doesn't have a mental block. To me if you have a mental block against a player DOESN'T mean you get destroyed every time and that you hand over the match. Quite the opposite, many times these guys come out firing at the start of a match, until the pressure really gets to them.
The biggest sign that a player has a mental block against another player is not when they lose in straight sets, it's when it's a tight match and their level of play really drops once they reach the stage where they start thinking "OMG I might win this match". Ferrer was a perfect example last week. As you said he didn't just surrender the match. He fought hard and given Federer's terrible play he really should have won, but you could tell beating Federer was too big a task emotionally for him that day.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Wow, so all the guys that can beat Roger (besides Novak and maybe some day Haas again) all the others are on Nadal's side of the draw? Simon, Murray, Nadal, Almagro, Tsonga, Berdych, Monfils some day.
So out of 9 guys that have a real lagitamate chance of beating Roger only 2 are on his side???
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Lol @ Simon or ALMAGRO, of all people, having a shot vs Fed at the USO. Yeah, Fed's sleeping easier now that the legend killer Almagro isn't in his half...:lol:
luckyboy1300
Hall of Fame
the moment i've seen the username the names that popped into my mind are NadalWonWimbledonAgain, HappyforThevictory, etc. the same troll that kept coming back after getting banned.
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Serendipitous
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Serendipitous
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Yeah, but you're forgetting that Federer has Blake.
35ft6
Legend
Chase Buchanan is going to get a sweet look at ATP level power against Tsonga.
Poor Safin, he'll probably lose to Melzer at this last US Open.
Wonder if Gasquet can come out with a nothing to lose attitude to upset a out of form Nadal?
The Bjorn Phau versus Roddick first round could be the cracker jack match of the first round. Should be explosive with a lot of crazy shot making.
Too bad Lopez and Dent have to play each first round, Lopez almost being kind of like a serve and volleyer and all.
Poor Safin, he'll probably lose to Melzer at this last US Open.
Wonder if Gasquet can come out with a nothing to lose attitude to upset a out of form Nadal?
The Bjorn Phau versus Roddick first round could be the cracker jack match of the first round. Should be explosive with a lot of crazy shot making.
Too bad Lopez and Dent have to play each first round, Lopez almost being kind of like a serve and volleyer and all.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Nope, why ?
Is it a cakewalk ????
Breaker
Legend
Let's just say if we got a bunch of kids together with music playing and had them walk around in a circle on round pads indicating different possible cakes they could win depending on which one they'd stopped on when the music stopped - that would be Federer's draw.
RAFAwon09usopen
Banned
Out of form Nadal? So out of form that he led Del Potro 5-2 in the tie-breaker 1st set? Can't be that out of form, certainly not enough to lose to a comeback druggie.
When you compare this Nadal comeback to the comeback in January (also following a 3 month tendinitis layoff), he was beaten in straight sets by Monfils, and then won the Australian Open (including the longest singles match in Australian Open history). You haters have to be nervous when you look at the similarities.
Challenging draw for Murray, but he is too good now to lose early. He will surely be there in the final Sunday either as the winner or the runner up. Ofcourse Federer is the main guy and will probably end up winning but Murray will be the only other player who could lift this trophy. 
The-Champ
Legend
Challenging draw for Murray, but he is too good now to lose early. He will surely be there in the final Sunday either as the winner or the runner up. Ofcourse Federer is the main guy and will probably end up winning but Murray will be the only other player who could lift this trophy.
man, that's the problem. It's quite possible Murray will beat Rafa in the semi-final, but I'm afraid he will choke again in the finals against federer.
Murray, if you're reading this, if you know you can't beat Federer in a slam final...then let Rafa win, so he could get the job done!
man, that's the problem. It's quite possible Murray will beat Rafa in the semi-final, but I'm afraid he will choke again in the finals against federer.
Murray, if you're reading this, if you know you can't beat Federer in a slam final...then let Rafa win, so he could get the job done!
While Murray may not win it, but choke won't be a reason for that. It's simple, beat 7 players and win a slam and the player who manages to do that wins it. I am hoping it's Murray.
The-Champ
Legend
Well, if Nadal can't win it...I hope Murray does.
But he should win it, not just reach finals.
^^ What we hope doesn't always materialize and if that were to happen I would want Murray to go undefeated an entire year winning everything in sight.
You will always have players better than you and you have to accept that. Only thing you can do is aim to be the best and one day will be yours.
You will always have players better than you and you have to accept that. Only thing you can do is aim to be the best and one day will be yours.
The-Champ
Legend
^^ What we hope doesn't always materialize and if that were to happen I would want Murray to go undefeated an entire year winning everything in sight.
You will always have players better than you and you have to accept that. Only thing you can do is aim to be the best and one day will be yours.
If my knowledge of history serves me right, that is something nobody has done before. I doubt he can do that.
he can go undefeated if:
he wins the first tournament he enters, then gets injured the whole year.
Unfortunately Murray is not as gifted in that aspect as Nadal is. :twisted:
The-Champ
Legend
Speaks volumes of what an incredible player Rafa truly is. Playing with injury his whole career and accomplished quite a lot.
Murray on the other hand has been healthy the whole year and has nothing to show for it. :twisted:
I want to remind you that Murray is playing quite a physical game as well...who knows what will happen to him in a year?
zagor
Bionic Poster
man, that's the problem. It's quite possible Murray will beat Rafa in the semi-final, but I'm afraid he will choke again in the finals against federer.
Murray, if you're reading this, if you know you can't beat Federer in a slam final...then let Rafa win, so he could get the job done!
You know it is actually possible by some miracle that Fed will actually outplay Murray in the USO final if they both get there,not that Murray will "choke".Not every match Fed wins is because his opponent choked against him.
Nadal is incredible for sure if he wins he gets fully fit and when someone takes him to the woodshed he becomes injured again. That's some talent!
Murray has a very good defensive game I agree but he moves a lot more smoothly (ofcourse that doesn't mean he can't get injured and in his case an actual injury and not like a pretender). :twisted:
Omega_7000
Legend
^^^ "Roddick usually outplays Federer from the baseline"-Grafselesfan
WHAT?!?? :shock::shock::shock: :lol:
WHAT?!?? :shock::shock::shock: :lol:
Well if Nadal is ALWAYS injured, why do his fans use injury as an excuse for a loss? If he has been injured during every match he WON, why would injury make him LOSE?
Cyan
Hall of Fame
Exactly..... Murray better man up if he reaches the final of slams because his playing style(running down every shot and pushing 100% of the time) is not long lasting....
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Nadal is not ALWAYS injured, it's just that since RG his knees have really just blown away.
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Serendipitous
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Yea OK maximo, I can believe that. (I'm not being sarcastic)
It's just the person I quoted said Nadal was always injured. So I guess I was referring to their opinions; yours don't seem to be the same.
35ft6
Legend
Whenever somebody is out for several months, they're not going to be at their best.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Roger Federer vs. Gilles Simon
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hahahahhahahha, oh oh so funny!
I think he was laughing at your mention of Almagro more than anything, which is in fact, quite laughable.
ha ha ha
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Silly me, i thought it was the legendary NF. Anyway, welcome back from Bansville, maximo (peche).Hi maximo.
Woe is me!!! i can't believe anyone takes the Roger - Simon h2h seriously.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
Roger Federer vs. Gilles Simon
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hahahahhahahha, oh oh so funny!
Yeah Simon's gonna take Fed out at a slam...please call me when you get some common sense...:lol:
Oh gosh... Fed's gonna lose to Simon!!! Calamity!!! xDDD
GasquetGOAT
Hall of Fame
Grafselesfan is not the brightest poster on here. He/she can be forgiven...
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
You sound really stupid, so let me help you here.
And out of Rogers draw, besides Murray that is, who has a better chance of beating Roger than Almagro???
Sure as heck is not going to be Roddick (love the guy) but we saw Roddick at his absolute best ever with absolute best strategy ever and Roger did not look his best yet Roddick still could not put Roger away.
And Davydanko sure as heck is not going to get it done, just like he never does.
So who out of Roger's current draw besides Murray has a better chance of beating Roger. You need to support your claim with most current numbers.
Peace!!!
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Wow, what is with all these ignorant people. Riddle me this, who were they players that made Roger cry "I am happy the hard court season is over with!"?
I am sure you are one of the slobs that thought Nadal would not win the AO, or Wim. etc etc.
These people will never stop looking like fools:roll:
First of all, only stupid and ignorant people (as you put it) would resort to name calling and personal insults.
Secondly, let ME help YOU out. Reading comprehension lesson 1,
The fact jamesblakefan wrote ALMAGRO in capital letters and the last sentence being about Almagro, should be clear enough for any people with reasonable intelligence that he found both of these names laughable and more so Almagro.
Can't believe I'm really doing this.
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
How many times has Almagro beaten any top 10 player? Google that for me. Roddick's beaten Federer twice and sure as hell has a better shot than Nicolas freaking Almagro and Gilles Simon. Roddick and Djokovic are both slam champs and capable of taking out Fed. Simon and Almagro, how many slams do they have again?
I'd say Hewitt, Blake, Soderling, Davy, Djokovic, all have immensely better shot than chronic underachiever Almagro. He'd probably get triple breadstick like Nadal did to him. He still hasn't recovered from that one. :lol:
Murray was one, Djokovic, the other, is on Fed's side. I guess you choose to ignore him to fit your agenda.
Thank you for displaying to jackson ville what common sense is...
To even mention Almagro as having a shot to beat Fed at the open is laughable, has he ever beaten anyone worth mention in his illustrious career? :lol:
And as has been mentioned, slams and MS events are two different animals for Federer...no one not named Nadal or Djokovic has beaten Fed at a slam in nearly 4 years...think about that, then think about how ridiculous it sounds to think Simon and the clown Almagro could take out Fed at an event he's won 5 years running...gimme a break.
You are the stupid one. Simons career peaked in 2008 and his 2 wins over Federer were not in slams. If you think Simon would ever beat Federer in a slam, particularly this year, then you need to lay off the crack. Name anyone with a better shot from Rogers draw to beat him than Almagro. Nearly everyone in the top 50 has a better shot to beat Roger in a hard court slam than Almagro. 3rd tier clay courter Almagro is now somehow a special hard court player or nemisis of Roger based upon reasoning nobody can even imagine (he didnt even have a couple fluke wins over Roger in small tournaments like Simon to go by). My the fantasies of young children these days. Yeah Roddick and Davydenko have hardly any chance to beat Roger but 5% or 1% is still better than 0.0000000000001% (Almagros chances of beating Federer if they had met at this years U.S Open).
Love Game
Talk Tennis Guru
well Simon's beaten Federer twice, too...>
True, even tho both times Gilles beat Roger were in 2008, rogerer and gilles are both different players than they were last year.
Oddly enough, in their H2H, Simon is 2-0 over Federer. This year's USO will give Federer a chance to improve that H2H, especially with Gilles now having the Rknee problems.
Advantage1
New User
Does anyone no who Peter Polansky plays first round just saw that he qualified and dont have time to look at the draw yet
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
He plays Guillermo Garcia Lopez
Advantage1
New User
Thanks Peter Polansky is my favourite canadian player considering we dont got a lot i like his game and hoping he get in the top 1-- by the end of the year
navratilovafan
Banned
Do you even have a brain. Monfils cant even beat Federer on clay, in fact couldnt even do it last year on clay when he was playing the tennis of his life and Federer was playing some of his worst tennis ever. He has no hope in hell of beating Federer on a hard court. Simon had a couple small tournament wins over Federer last year when he was playing the tennis of his life, but he has no shot of beating him in a slam ever, especialy in his current form. Almagro. ROTFL!!! Berdych hasnt beaten Federer since 2004 now and is already on the downslope of his career at only 24. Roddick has more chance to beat Federer at this years U.S Open than anyone except Murray and maybe Nadal (and Nadal is highly doubtful given his current form and surface).
