The US Open draw was perfect,

Primavera

Rookie
Nadal has Thiem, Anderson, del Potro, Tsitsipas (sorry but I think he's awesome), Isner, Wawrinka

Federer has Cilic, Zverev, Djokovic, Kyrgios??,

Are we all so certain it's going to be a cake walk for Rafa?
I am mostly worried by Del Potro. I don't think that Tiem, Wawrinka or Tsitsipas can beat him in Bo5. As far as serving machines are concerned, anything can happen. If there serves are on, and Rafa's return is off, he may repeat Federer's Wimbledon.

Federer's half looks more dangerous IMHO. The first three are definitely a problem. Kyrgios doesn't belong to this company.
 

Primavera

Rookie
I am worried for the Nadal.

He is eating so many draw cakes, he could get diabetes.
Don't worry. Rafa has been a chocolate freak since his early childhood. The tonnage of chocolate products he consumed has been a good practice and prepared him to all the trials and tribulations :)
 

Azure

Legend
Yes I do. Do you understand getting your panties twisted because of one tough player in a draw? He had to be in either Nadal or Federer's draw. Had the draws been completely reversed, the Nadal fans would be whining it was unfair, the Djokovic fans would be whining this was just a way to get Federer in the final and the Federer fans would be whining because there were more potentially dangerous players in his draw than Nadal's.
You are being absurdly and unfairly reasonable.
 

Primavera

Rookie
Thiem - useless on HC and he’s a pigeon for Rafa outside of M1000s anyway
Anderson - LOL
Del Potro - fitness in doubt and never seems to trouble Rafa
Tsistipas - just a kid. Not developed as a player yet
Isner - this ain’t grass
Wawrinka - only one you listed who could surprise Rafa
USO 2008 semifinal Deo Potro - Nadal: 6-2, 6-2, 6-2. Never seems to trouble Rafa?
Anderson will be hungry for revenge and to show he can play with the big guys. Can he pull a Wawa AO 14 performance?
It wasn't the matter of WAWA performance. It was the matter of Nadal's back injury. With less pain Rafa would have stampeded over the pizza face.
 

Primavera

Rookie
2-1 is such a huge lead
My god Djoker can never overcome such a huge lead .
Although Djoker is what 16-7 h2h on hard court versus Rafa .
You talk as if Rafa is 11-1 versus Djoker at USO
Btw Djoker is the most consistent player at USO after Lendl..
In the number of R2 appearances?
 

Primavera

Rookie
As you say, Djokovic and Lendl are the two most consistent players at USO. Combined, they have 5 US Opens to show for. Federer has 5 also. At the end of the day, it's the number of titles that matters most, not consistency.
Jimmy Connors
Pete Sampras
Roger Federer with their 5 titles each are crying bitterly because such tennis greats as Djokovic and Lendl were acknoledged superior to them.

Richard Sears
Bill Larned
Bill Tilden with their meagre 7 titles each have already died of sorrow :(
 

Azure

Legend
USO 2008 semifinal Deo Potro - Nadal: 6-2, 6-2, 6-2. Never seems to trouble Rafa?

It wasn't the matter of WAWA performance. It was the matter of Nadal's back injury. With less pain Rafa would have stampeded over the pizza face.
Lololol
 

Enceladus

Hall of Fame
Anderson - LOL
Anderson is a more dangerous player in the QF GS tournament than in the final (in which nervousness will bind him). If there is a re-match last year finale, Anderson will play more relaxed and it will be harder duel for Nadal than last year's final.
Anderson never beat Nadal, but the same was true of Federer to Wimbledon 2018...
 

Enceladus

Hall of Fame
Lol. Nadal leads the H2H over Djokovic at the US Open. So Djokovic losing before the final is not a sine qua non condition for Nadal to win the US Open.
When last time Nadal defeated Djokovic on the hard court? Let me tell you: the final of the US Open 2013. Five years ago!
 

Enceladus

Hall of Fame
Djokovic only leads 1-0 at the Australian Open and 2-1 at Wimbledon. Double standard logic?

Also, we are talking about H2H in GS, not in Masters 1000 or WTF. The H2H in Masters 1000 and WTF is not necessarily indicative of what happens in GS. Otherwise, Djokovic would not have a losing H2H of 1-6 at Roland Garros against Rafa.
It is not Djoker's fault that Nadal was not able get to him. On Rafa's favorite GS tournaments (FO & USO) they played 10x (8-2 for Nadal), while Djoker's favorite majors (AO & WCh) only 4x (3-1 for Djokovic). If matches were more evenly distributed, the balance would undoubtedly be closer.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Uncanny resemblance, no?



I am worried for the Nadal.

He is eating so many draw cakes, he could get diabetes.
Toni, please no. Anything you want. Anything at all. Ferrer in round 1? You got it, you got it all.
This is why I love TTW. :D
 
Can he pull a Wawa AO 14 performance?
For that, you need a firing FH-BH-Serve combo with a good movement and, "I don't care if he is fedalovic" mentality. And unfortunately, apart from serve, kevin does not have any of these (you can't get an old suiciderer everytime)

Wawrinka is mental demon. Can’t compare him to a literal mental midget like Anderson.
+1
Against everyone but federer

With exception of del Potro, this is fair. I don’t see why delpo couldn’t beat Rafa.
Because, to beat rafa, first you need a good backhand, or even a backhand atleast, which delpo does not have anymore after surgery.
2nd, you should be able to either blast him off the court or grind out with him. Delpo is an expert in blasting off, but he lacks proper footwork and movement for that. Also, we can't even expect him to grind out anyone, let alone leave the physical beast nadal.

2-1 is such a huge lead

Btw Djoker is the most consistent player at USO after Lendl..
 
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USO 2008 semifinal Deo Potro - Nadal: 6-2, 6-2, 6-2. Never seems to trouble Rafa?
Wow, I did not know that murray transformed himself into delpo for beating nadl in SF..
Thanks for enlightening me..

It wasn't the matter of WAWA performance. It was the matter of Nadal's back injury. With less pain Rafa would have stampeded over the pizza face.
Yeah, rafa is always injured when he loses.
Utter crap by VB. The motto is "Fake injury and take credit away from opponent, when he is outplaying and beating the hell out of you"

Wwarinka was zoning that tournament, nothing was gonna stop him.
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
Probably the only player who can beat Rafa unless Rafa gets injured for real.

I expect a Djokodal final but maybe grandpa Fed has us all fooled.
Federer has no intentions of playing Rafa at the USO. It's the only slam in which he hasn't lost to Rafa so he'd like it to remain so by avoiding Rafa.
 

jm1980

G.O.A.T.
Nadal has Thiem, Anderson, del Potro, Tsitsipas (sorry but I think he's awesome), Isner, Wawrinka

Federer has Cilic, Zverev, Djokovic, Kyrgios??,

Are we all so certain it's going to be a cake walk for Rafa?
Thiem - useless on HC and he’s a pigeon for Rafa outside of M1000s anyway
Anderson - LOL
Del Potro - fitness in doubt and never seems to trouble Rafa
Tsistipas - just a kid. Not developed as a player yet
Isner - this ain’t grass
Wawrinka - only one you listed who could surprise Rafa
Wawrinka played a full season this year and is 11-13, and ranked outside the Top 100

There is a tiny chance he could make a deep run, but in all likelihood he is going to bow out in the first week
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
You don't seem to understand how the draw works. Let me explain:

First of all, Wawrinka has Dimitrov in R1 and is highly unlikely, given his recent form that he will prevail. Even if Wawa does win, he still has to go through (most likely) Raonic in R3 then possibly Isner in R4. Now an interesting R4 clash could be Tsitsipas vs Delpo and the winner of that will most likely face either Raonic/Dimitrov/Wawrinka/Isner in the QF. So only one of those names that you mentioned will/may get to Rafa in the SF.

Now looking at Nadal's quarter, he has a perfect warm-up match with Ferrer, then possibly a slight contest with Kachanov in R3, but I expect Rafa to win that in 3 tightish sets. Rafa then should make clean work of Edmund in R4. Not sure why you even brought up Thiem. In any case, assuming Thiem will play to his clay standards and gets to R4, he will most likely meet Anderson there. Bye-Bye Thiem. So now we're looking at a possible QF Nadal-Anderson. Capish?
Umm an even rustier Wawa beat Dimitrov at Wimbledon a few weeks ago, and grass is probably Stanimal's worst surface too.. There's no reason to think that Stan is unlikely to prevail on a surface he's more comfortable on and has won two majors on...
 
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Let’s be honest here, it all came down to which side of the draw Djoko landed in. This time Rafa got lucky and fed didn’t. Rafa is no1 though, so he earned it!
 
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Federer has no intentions of playing Rafa at the USO. It's the only slam in which he hasn't lost to Rafa so he'd like it to remain so by avoiding Rafa.
Ok sure. He'll deliberately lose to avoid him. Got it.
 

Mike Sams

Legend
Nadal has Thiem, Anderson, del Potro, Tsitsipas (sorry but I think he's awesome), Isner, Wawrinka

Federer has Cilic, Zverev, Djokovic, Kyrgios??,

Are we all so certain it's going to be a cake walk for Rafa?
Thiem has been dead since the end of clay.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
Wawrinka played a full season this year and is 11-13, and ranked outside the Top 100

There is a tiny chance he could make a deep run, but in all likelihood he is going to bow out in the first week
11-13 is a full season? :rolleyes:

Can I buy some pot from you?
 

Sudacafan

G.O.A.T.
Nadal has Thiem, Anderson, del Potro, Tsitsipas (sorry but I think he's awesome), Isner, Wawrinka

Federer has Cilic, Zverev, Djokovic, Kyrgios??,

Are we all so certain it's going to be a cake walk for Rafa?
Nadal’s draw is a cakewalk for the one and only reason that Nole is not in his half.
 

captainbryce

Hall of Fame
Nadal has Thiem, Anderson, del Potro, Tsitsipas (sorry but I think he's awesome), Isner, Wawrinka

Federer has Cilic, Zverev, Djokovic, Kyrgios??,

Are we all so certain it's going to be a cake walk for Rafa?
The only name that matters in any of these draws is Djokovic. Whichever one drew him has the tougher draw and it sucks to be them. In this case, Federer bit the dust!
 

Ann

Hall of Fame
The canonization of Djokovic was rapid and absolute.

I guess it wasn't Djokovic that I saw get his arse handed to him by Tsitsipas at the Rogers Cup way back then - 3 weeks ago.

BTW, it may have slipped everyone's attention but to win the US Open you have to win the final. Meaning IF Djokovic makes it to the final, someone has to beat him to actually win the US Open. So... logic would dictate that if Djokovic is the greatest, most awesomest, totally tubularest tennis player of all time, it doesn't matter whose draw he's in and they should just anoint the Great One now.

Or the tournament could just be played, as always and the best tennis player on that day, wins.
 

Azure

Legend
The canonization of Djokovic was rapid and absolute.

I guess it wasn't Djokovic that I saw get his arse handed to him by Tsitsipas at the Rogers Cup way back then - 3 weeks ago.

BTW, it may have slipped everyone's attention but to win the US Open you have to win the final. Meaning IF Djokovic makes it to the final, someone has to beat him to actually win the US Open. So... logic would dictate that if Djokovic is the greatest, most awesomest, totally tubularest tennis player of all time, it doesn't matter whose draw he's in and they should just anoint the Great One now.

Or the tournament could just be played, as always and the best tennis player on that day, wins.
:D:D what's tubularest? He bends like a hose tube?
 

Pantera

Banned
Basically everyone knows Nadal is the best player on american hard courts so all his jealous haters comfort themselves with claims he has an easy draw in case he wins. Its classic stuff.

This site is great as the underlying message is Nadal is undisputed GOAT .
 

dr325i

Legend
The draw is actually good for Novak. He’s always performed better when challenged more and when he goes through one of those unexpected 4 or 5 long setters (QF this year)

If the surface is indeed faster this year and lower bounce, Rafa will hit the wall

Negative for Novak is that neither of the big 3 has beaten the other two on the way to the Slam title. RF was so close this year on the grass. It would be a surprise if RF loses before the SF this year...even if he drops a set.
 

ibbi

Hall of Fame
Here we go again, eh? :-D

Come on now, guys. Who are we putting in his half for things to be different? Like to people on this forum is the member of the big 3 who gets his own half away from the other two just getting a cakewalk of a draw? I mean Federer essentially appears to have a bye to the semi finals but Nadal's draw we're going to complain about?

At least the potential quarter final with Khachanov is there in Nadal's way. Chance for a rematch of that dramatic evening last year.
 
Negative for Novak is that neither of the big 3 has beaten the other two on the way to the Slam title. RF was so close this year on the grass. It would be a surprise if RF loses before the SF this year...even if he drops a set.
Nadal did that at Roland Garros a few times, Djokovic did the same when he won his first US Open.
 
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