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theroleoftheunderdog..

you are cheating... changing your prediction according to Cocacola's.

This should be noticed by tourny people and prevented.

Poor gamesmanship

LOL poor gamesmanship. please take your crap somewhere else. gamesmanship is already implied as bad, so if you say "bad gamesmanship" that means its not bad at all. its a double negative. i flamed you for creating that nadal vs federer thread prematurely, its good to see you still think otherwise
 
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Oooo I see...Changing to Del Potro in 3

all these time you just copied my predictions. Now I know that I'm the best.

ok mr bitter. continue to be bitter please. thanks. i am also unaware that is illegal to pick favorites to win matches which is what i have done
 
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CocaCola

Professional
ok mr bitter. continue to be bitter please. thanks. i am also unaware that is illegal to pick favorites to win matches which is what i have done

This guy is amasing...

You idiot, everybody just saw you doing it...I waited to see you copying me. You did it, I changed it to Delpo in 4 and after 5 minutes you also changed it, no?
You just had that little trick the whole time - pick the matches one by one just before they start so that it look like you'r "still thinking". You are pathetic.

Someone should punish this guy.
 
This guy is amasing...

You idiot, everybody just saw you doing it...I waited to see you copying me. You did it, I changed it to Delpo in 4 and after 5 minutes you also changed it, no?
You just had that little trick the whole time - pick the matches one by one just before they start so that it look like you'r "still thinking". You are pathetic.

oh so it is illegal to play smart? i can't go safe? no one else is threatening so why should i take my chances and let you back in. get over it. deal with it.
 

OddJack

G.O.A.T.
LOL poor gamesmanship. please take your crap somewhere else. gamesmanship is already implied as bad, so if you say "bad gamesmanship" that means its not bad at all. its a double negative. i flamed you for creating that nadal vs federer thread prematurely, its good to see you still think otherwise

STFU you little doggy, we now know how you got those points here, all with cheating and copying so the score stays the same,

That's laughable, sitting there like a sniffing dog waiting for Cocacola to post his predictions and then post yours, how childish and stupid is that?

Grow up, learn to depend on your own efforts rather than others.

They should throw you out of this competition.
 

CocaCola

Professional
oh so it is illegal to play smart? i can't go safe? no one else is threatening so why should i take my chances and let you back in. get over it. deal with it.


This is basically a confession. If it's legal to keep 1st place by copying your biggest threat for days than this game has no sense at all.
 
oh so it is illegal to play smart? i can't go safe? no one else is threatening so why should i take my chances and let you back in. get over it. deal with it.

We've had this happen before in a prediction game in the past. Hopefully TM and some of the other veterans will come and help deal w/ the situation, b/c I can't remember how things were resolved.

But I'm pretty sure what TROTU is doing is against the rules and etiquette of the game.
 

OddJack

G.O.A.T.
This league is getting better and better as it continues,

My Suggestion:

When the scores get close like this do not allow change of predicitons or make it private to the score keeper.
 
STFU you little doggy, we now know how you got those points here, all with cheating and copying so the score stays the same,

That's laughable, sitting there like a sniffing dog waiting for Cocacola to post his predictions and then post yours, how childish and stupid is that?

Grow up, learn to depend on your own efforts rather than others.

They should throw you out of this competition.

obviously you have an objective of your own. you aren't even participating. i don't see anyone else other than you and cocacola flaming me. if you can't understand the fact you can win this competition in the first week and also lose it, then that's too bad
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
oh so it is illegal to play smart? i can't go safe? no one else is threatening so why should i take my chances and let you back in. get over it. deal with it.

Good grief man,this isn't that serious,it's just a fun game.You don't get 1000$ prize money for the first place LOL.
 
We've had this happen before in a prediction game in the past. Hopefully TM and some of the other veterans will come and help deal w/ the situation, b/c I can't remember how things were resolved.

But I'm pretty sure what TROTU is doing is against the rules and etiquette of the game.

see jbf can write his post without flaming. i am unaware of any of these rules or the etiquette that has so far been established. if a solution can be found such as sending pms, then i will support it
 

CocaCola

Professional
STFU you little doggy, we now know how you got those points here, all with cheating and copying so the score stays the same,

That's laughable, sitting there like a sniffing dog waiting for Cocacola to post his predictions and then post yours, how childish and stupid is that?

Grow up, learn to depend on your own efforts rather than others.

They should throw you out of this competition.

tnx for support.
 

フェデラー

Hall of Fame
it is suspicious activity, i mean it is odd that he would rig the game so obviously, when he knows a smart(er) move would have been to change later. Im surprised that he would make such an error in judgement so blatantly obvious.
 

Chelsea_Kiwi

Hall of Fame
This happened in Madrid with Safinator who no longer plays.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=259191

I don't have time to look into the thread so I will give a brief outline of what happened.

He won the league in the end but I cannot remember what his punishment was. I propose that the Del Potro pick is void as there is clear evidence of cheating. TM did this last time I remember. TM did email Seffina his picks but it got messy so I do not know what he wants to do this time...
 
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seffina

G.O.A.T.
Honestly, it's just a game.

I'll just do the scores with the final edits in the morning, but I'll change them according to what T_M says about both this situation and the other one that was brought up with the last set of scores.
 
This happened in Madrid with Safinator who no longer plays.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=259191

I don't have time to look into the thread so I will give a brief outline of what happened.

He won the league in the end but I cannot remember what his punishment was. I propose that the Del Potro pick is void as there is clear evidence of cheating. TM did this last time I remember. TM did email Seffina his picks but it got messy so I do not know what he wants to do this time...

definition of cheating:

–verb (used with object)
1. to defraud; swindle: He cheated her out of her inheritance.
2. to deceive; influence by fraud: He cheated us into believing him a hero.
3. to elude; deprive of something expected: He cheated the law by suicide.
–verb (used without object)
4. to practice fraud or deceit: She cheats without regrets.
5. to violate rules or regulations: He cheats at cards.
6. to take an examination or test in a dishonest way, as by improper access to answers.
7. Informal. to be sexually unfaithful (often fol. by on): Her husband knew she had been cheating all along. He cheated on his wife.
–noun
8. a person who acts dishonestly, deceives, or defrauds: He is a cheat and a liar.
9. a fraud; swindle; deception: The game was a cheat.
10. Law. the fraudulent obtaining of another's property by a pretense or trick.
11. an impostor: The man who passed as an earl was a cheat.

did i do any of the above?? nope. on the other hand, posters will just ignore the fact that cocacola has looked at my picks and changed his accordingly. in the second r16 day, we both had tsonga in 4, he had nadal in 5 and i had nadal in 4. he changed his pick to gonzalez in 4 and said "i need to catch him up".

Changing prediction Tsonga in 4 to Gonzalez in 4...just because the underdoger predicted everything same as me...and I desperately need to catch him up.

even today, when he changed to potro in 4, i made my pick accordingly. he saw this and accordingly changed to potro in 3. did i change? nope.

so have we both been guilty of looking at the other's picks and picking accordingly? yes. does this fit any definition of "cheating"? nope. is this violating the rules? nope. is this less than being an angel? yes, both cocacola and i have done the same. so i guess we are both "cheaters". why shouldn't we both be punished for this so called "cheating" and being equally "desperate to win": looking at another's picks and choosing/changing accordingly? because i'm in front? this is LAUGHABLE. if you don't like it, go change the rules.

what's the point in taking a poll? obviously people will side with the one who appears "less guilty" in this supposedly context of "cheating".

look who is flaming: cocacola and oddjack. they can only resort to name calling to prove a point. "idiot", "cheater", "pathetic", "bad gamesmanship", "should be banned".

i obviously have committed high treason in their eyes.
 

dafox

Rookie
I haven't laughed more in a long time...I can't believe someone would be copying someone elses picks to win this...isn't this supposed to be fun...theroleofunderdog is the guy you play in a tourney and calls everything out and you want to kick his *** after the match for cheating....
 

Chelsea_Kiwi

Hall of Fame
definition of cheating:

–verb (used with object)
1. to defraud; swindle: He cheated her out of her inheritance.
2. to deceive; influence by fraud: He cheated us into believing him a hero.
3. to elude; deprive of something expected: He cheated the law by suicide.
–verb (used without object)
4. to practice fraud or deceit: She cheats without regrets.
5. to violate rules or regulations: He cheats at cards.
6. to take an examination or test in a dishonest way, as by improper access to answers.
7. Informal. to be sexually unfaithful (often fol. by on): Her husband knew she had been cheating all along. He cheated on his wife.
–noun
8. a person who acts dishonestly, deceives, or defrauds: He is a cheat and a liar.
9. a fraud; swindle; deception: The game was a cheat.
10. Law. the fraudulent obtaining of another's property by a pretense or trick.
11. an impostor: The man who passed as an earl was a cheat.

did i do any of the above?? nope. on the other hand, posters will just ignore the fact that cocacola has looked at my picks and changed his accordingly. in the second r16 day, we both had tsonga in 4, he had nadal in 5 and i had nadal in 4. he changed his pick to gonzalez in 4 and said "i need to catch him up".



even today, when he changed to potro in 4, i made my pick accordingly. he saw this and accordingly changed to potro in 3. did i change? nope.

so have we both been guilty of looking at the other's picks and picking accordingly? yes. does this fit any definition of "cheating"? nope. is this violating the rules? nope. is this less than being an angel? yes, both cocacola and i have done the same. so i guess we are both "cheaters". why shouldn't we both be punished for this so called "cheating" and being equally "desperate to win": looking at another's picks and choosing/changing accordingly? because i'm in front? this is LAUGHABLE. if you don't like it, go change the rules.

what's the point in taking a poll? obviously people will side with the one who appears "less guilty" in this supposedly context of "cheating".

look who is flaming: cocacola and oddjack. they can only resort to name calling to prove a point. "idiot", "cheater", "pathetic", "bad gamesmanship", "should be banned".

i obviously have committed high treason in their eyes.

Ok if you are dumb enough to think you are right I will put it simple so you understand:

You copied Cocacola = Making the game not fun and uncompetitive.
Cocacola did whatever you didn't do = Making the game fun and competitive.

In fact Cocacola did the complete opposite of what you did so I have no idea how you can compare the two of you.
 
Ok if you are dumb enough to think you are right I will put it simple so you understand:

You copied Cocacola = Making the game not fun and uncompetitive.
Cocacola did whatever you didn't do = Making the game fun and competitive.

In fact Cocacola did the complete opposite of what you did so I have no idea how you can compare the two of you.

LOL. translation of what you are saying: making the game not fun and competitive="cheating". i'm not aware i'm suppose to be a saint and not look at other ppl's picks. sorry, if you don't like it, let's change the rules. cocacola did not do as well through the first 122 matches, so now he complains that i'm making it difficult for him the the last five matches of the tournament(quarters/semis/finals).

so unless this game is to be conducted in a saintly and angelic manner please continue to whine and moan about it.
 
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CocaCola

Professional
Ok if you are dumb enough to think you are right I will put it simple so you understand:

You copied Cocacola = Making the game not fun and uncompetitive.
Cocacola did whatever you didn't do = Making the game fun and competitive.

In fact Cocacola did the complete opposite of what you did so I have no idea how you can compare the two of you.

I know right...the guy is just soo annoying.
 
TROTU, it seems you are clearly in the wrong here, even if it's not "cheating", it goes against the etiquette of the game that was agreed upon after the last similar situation came up w/ pick copying.

Hopefully TM will decide on a resolution.
 

CocaCola

Professional
TROTU, stop with all those dumb explanations. I saw you copying, proved it, you admitted it. My opinion is that this is against the rules and that the game has no sense with it.
I think that you should be banned from game, but I will agree with every resolution that TM offers.
 
This happened in Madrid with Safinator who no longer plays.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=259191

I don't have time to look into the thread so I will give a brief outline of what happened.

He won the league in the end but I cannot remember what his punishment was. I propose that the Del Potro pick is void as there is clear evidence of cheating. TM did this last time I remember. TM did email Seffina his picks but it got messy so I do not know what he wants to do this time...

I think the discussion a/b pick copying, emailing picks, etc starts somewhere around here:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=259191&page=17

You guys should look back to gain some perspective on the situation, as it was clearly decided pick copying was a No-No.
 
TROTU, stop with all those dumb explanations. I saw you copying, proved it, you admitted it. My opinion is that this is against the rules and that the game has no sense with it.
I think that you should be banned from game, but I will agree with every resolution that TM offers.

sorry, it is not stated in the rules. your opinion doesn't doesn't resolve this issue, and the fact you think i should be banned just shows your bias. and i was not here on the forum to witness the last time it happened, so i cannot be held responsible for what safinator did. and you say copying=cheating, i guess i have broken some copyright law:rolleyes:, as your picks can be sold for some kind of monetary value.

you do not offer up any sort of counterarguments. you instead brush off my explanations as "dumb". this is a forum where we are free to express our opinion. mine holds as much weight as yours. dismissing is it low.

i will support any fair resolution TM cam come up with, but if it is based on just an opinion, the resolution cannot stand as i did not violate in terms of the competition and therefore did not cheat. is it lame? yes. but did i "cheat"? only the most biased would say that
 
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JoshDragon

Hall of Fame
theroleoftheunderdog..

you are cheating... changing your prediction according to Cocacola's.

This should be noticed by tourny people and prevented.

Poor gamesmanship

He's not cheating, leave him alone.

If he wants to take this as a serious competition and change his prediction so that it matches Cocacola's then just let him do it. It's not that big of a deal.

There's no rule against changing your prediction before the start of the match.
 

FlamEnemY

Hall of Fame
prediction: 
–noun
1. an act of predicting.
2. an instance of this; prophecy.


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Origin:
1555–65; < L praedictiōn- (s. of praedictiō) a foretelling.

Synonyms:
2. forecast, augury, prognostication, divination, projection.


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What theroleoftheunderdog is doing is not predicting. Therefore it's not legal in this game.

The end.
 
prediction: 
–noun
1. an act of predicting.
2. an instance of this; prophecy.


---------------

Origin:
1555–65; < L praedictiōn- (s. of praedictiō) a foretelling.

Synonyms:
2. forecast, augury, prognostication, divination, projection.


***

What theroleoftheunderdog is doing is not predicting. Therefore it's not legal in this game.

The end.

* Main Entry: pre·dict
* Pronunciation: \pri-ˈdikt\
* Function: verb
* Etymology: Latin praedictus, past participle of praedicere, from prae- pre- + dicere to say — more at diction
* Date: 1609

transitive verb : to declare or indicate in advance; especially : foretell on the basis of observation, experience, or scientific reason

LOL. hahahahaha. i declared and indicated my picks in advance of the matches based upon "observation, experience, and/or scientific reason", not after they ended, so it is predicting. the end
 

CocaCola

Professional
* Main Entry: pre·dict
* Pronunciation: \pri-ˈdikt\
* Function: verb
* Etymology: Latin praedictus, past participle of praedicere, from prae- pre- + dicere to say — more at diction
* Date: 1609

transitive verb : to declare or indicate in advance; especially : foretell on the basis of observation, experience, or scientific reason

LOL. hahahahaha. i declared and indicated my picks in advance of the matches based upon "observation, experience, and/or scientific reason", not after they ended, so it is predicting. the end

:shock::shock::shock:
 

DCM

Banned
Federer will win now. Djokovic = ****. Del Potro = npt good enough Nadal = not good enough. Cilic and Gonzalez = not good enough.

Murray should still be in, but Fuglic beat him :mad:
 

RFLEGEND

Rookie
im in ok
winner- federer
runner up- nadal
think i posted before but i checked through and its not there so im in ok tennis maestro
 
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woodrow1029

Guest
Hi all. I am leaving tomorrow for a cruise to Alaska and am not sure what the internet situation is going to be. I'd like to, if it is ok with you all, put in my picks now for the rest of the tournament. Please let me know if this is ok.

Fed def. Djokovic in 4
Nadal/Gonzalez def. Del Potro in 4

For finals, in different scenarios
Fed def Nadal/Gonzalez in 4, or Del Potro in 3

Djok def Nadal in 5, or Gonzalez/Del Potro in 4
 
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