Stilljonesing
Rookie
? What about all the endorsements he probably lost just for showing up. 200+ million dollar NBA athletes go just to help support their brand.
The Value of an Olympic Gold Medal?
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octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
I have no idea what you are talking about.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
heftylefty
Hall of Fame
The rule regarding a Gold Medal in Tennis is: If my favorite player does not a Gold Medal or my least favorite player has one, it's worthless.
Fortunately for me...Andy Murray and the William Sisters are Gold Medalist.
Fortunately for me...Andy Murray and the William Sisters are Gold Medalist.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
You wrote: ¤¤ Sampras skipped the 1996 Olympic and focus on playing small events in his country.¤¤
I replied: ¤¤ Sampras was obviously focused on making money [by "playing small events in his country."]¤¤
Low tier events don't pay much.
Sampras considers the low tier event is more important than the Olympic.
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
AO is here, about time we move on from this silly "off-season" debate.
goldengate14
Professional
Add to that Djokovic Zverev Murray DelPotro and i believe Federer although indidnt hear federer say that but was told he said it.
TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
Its weight in faeces.
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
Still has the same value it's always had. It's just a more extreme WTF. It's more impressive to win it than it is to win a WTF, but it's a bigger disappointment to not win a WTF than it is to not win the Olympics. The difficulty of each is about the same - Olympics has easier opponents in general (at most 3 top-8 opponents + a few journeymen vs WTF's 5 top 8 opponents) but the mental drain is harder and you get 1 potential loss at the WTF. The difference just comes down to how often you get the chance.
Simple flukes or bad luck greatly change your chances of eventually winning a gold. A bad day can single-handedly wipe out 25% of the chances you have of ever earning a gold medal. However a bad day at the WTF doesn't even necessarily knock you out of that edition, and you can just try again in any of the next 3 years.
Same value overall as the WTF.
Simple flukes or bad luck greatly change your chances of eventually winning a gold. A bad day can single-handedly wipe out 25% of the chances you have of ever earning a gold medal. However a bad day at the WTF doesn't even necessarily knock you out of that edition, and you can just try again in any of the next 3 years.
Same value overall as the WTF.
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
Legend
For other sports yea.. For tennis? Its not that important. Its just another tournament
Daniel Andrade
Hall of Fame
1980 dollars
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fluffyyelloballz
Rookie
It’s a side event. Good for tennis to promote itself. Nice for the players to experience. A lovely medal and achievement. But it lacks weight in tennis history and I am not buying its recent upsurge in value by the tennis industry happy for the publicity.
itrium84
Hall of Fame
OG is great achievement.
I find it wrong to compare it directly to atp tour Big Title events.
It's in the group together with Davis cup and atp cup, where you fight for your country, not only for yourself. Among these 3, OG definitely has most significance, deserving to be called Big Title.
Most of OG value is drawn from patriotic emotional basis, and it should be recognized as such - much more as a national sport achievement than tennis history achievement.
What GS tournament is for ATP tour, OG is for nationality based events. They're both highest accomplishments in their own domain, not to be compared directly to each other.
I find it wrong to compare it directly to atp tour Big Title events.
It's in the group together with Davis cup and atp cup, where you fight for your country, not only for yourself. Among these 3, OG definitely has most significance, deserving to be called Big Title.
Most of OG value is drawn from patriotic emotional basis, and it should be recognized as such - much more as a national sport achievement than tennis history achievement.
What GS tournament is for ATP tour, OG is for nationality based events. They're both highest accomplishments in their own domain, not to be compared directly to each other.
Tennisfan339
Professional
Until 2012 the ATP awarded 750 points to the winner. No more points since 2016, but if we consider it's worth 750 points, it'd mean it's ranked between an ATP500 and a Masters 1000. So, if we compare the ATP points and prize money, it's below a Masters.
For me it's still more important than a Masters but definitely less than a slam. Equivalent of a WTF if I had to choose 1 option.
If you ask Nadal, Murray, Federer, Djokovic or Zverev it's clear they prefer the Olympics. Still, if I was a tennis player, I would pick Federer's 6 and Djokovic's 5 World Tour Finals over Nadal and Murray's 1 Gold medal. As I said in previous posts, for players who've won 20 slams and spent more than 200 weeks as #1, not winning WTF is a much bigger hole than not winning the Olympics. Only 3, maximum 4 opportunities to win medals, but more than 15 chances to win WTF. Plus, in Olympics if you lose a match, you're gone. In WTF you can lose 1 or even 2 Round Robin matches and still win the trophy.
For me it's still more important than a Masters but definitely less than a slam. Equivalent of a WTF if I had to choose 1 option.
If you ask Nadal, Murray, Federer, Djokovic or Zverev it's clear they prefer the Olympics. Still, if I was a tennis player, I would pick Federer's 6 and Djokovic's 5 World Tour Finals over Nadal and Murray's 1 Gold medal. As I said in previous posts, for players who've won 20 slams and spent more than 200 weeks as #1, not winning WTF is a much bigger hole than not winning the Olympics. Only 3, maximum 4 opportunities to win medals, but more than 15 chances to win WTF. Plus, in Olympics if you lose a match, you're gone. In WTF you can lose 1 or even 2 Round Robin matches and still win the trophy.
guanzishou
G.O.A.T.
As of July 29, gold was priced at $1,831 per ounce and silver was priced at $25.78 per ounce, according to Markets Insider and Monex.com. Under that calculation, an Olympic gold medal is approximately worth a whopping $810.
King_olaf_the_hairy
Semi-Pro
Almost two years late, but...
...isn't true on both counts; he consented to selection for Atlanta when he could have declined like Courier and Chang,{Buffalo News] and as he himself did in 2000.{BBC] He then withdrew the week before with an Achilles tendon injury.[LA Times, NY Times] Also, after Wimbledon finished in the first week of July, Pete didn't play again until Cincinnati in early August, the week after the Olympics had finished. Gold medallist Agassi was also in Cincinnati, demonstrating that there was no scheduling conflict.
Having said that, there's little doubt Sampras didn't miss being there; "[He] has never been more than lukewarm about the Olympics, frankly admitting that he was mostly looking forward to watching the basketball competition." (lifted from the above LA Times article) And six of his fellow top tenners, including all the reigning slam champs (Becker at AO, Kafelnikov at FO, Krajicek at W) were disinterested absentees, demonstrating that it had little significance for players in the 1990s.
Since 2008 it seems to have become a much bigger deal emotionally, probably because some of the Big 4 started to add it to their resumés and their internet fanbases got overexcited. Its rarity value adds to it too; Andy Murray was the only holder of an OGM in men's singles for a nine-year span, during which time nineteen different players won 74 Masters events. And I'm pretty sure the Scot wouldn't swap either of his golds for another common-as-muck M1000 title.
So if we look at things from a totally objective and neutral perspective, the only thing we can conclude is that all the Olympics have been rubbish non-events with the exception of 2012 and 2016 when they were more important than a CYGS.
...isn't true on both counts; he consented to selection for Atlanta when he could have declined like Courier and Chang,{Buffalo News] and as he himself did in 2000.{BBC] He then withdrew the week before with an Achilles tendon injury.[LA Times, NY Times] Also, after Wimbledon finished in the first week of July, Pete didn't play again until Cincinnati in early August, the week after the Olympics had finished. Gold medallist Agassi was also in Cincinnati, demonstrating that there was no scheduling conflict.
Having said that, there's little doubt Sampras didn't miss being there; "[He] has never been more than lukewarm about the Olympics, frankly admitting that he was mostly looking forward to watching the basketball competition." (lifted from the above LA Times article) And six of his fellow top tenners, including all the reigning slam champs (Becker at AO, Kafelnikov at FO, Krajicek at W) were disinterested absentees, demonstrating that it had little significance for players in the 1990s.
Since 2008 it seems to have become a much bigger deal emotionally, probably because some of the Big 4 started to add it to their resumés and their internet fanbases got overexcited. Its rarity value adds to it too; Andy Murray was the only holder of an OGM in men's singles for a nine-year span, during which time nineteen different players won 74 Masters events. And I'm pretty sure the Scot wouldn't swap either of his golds for another common-as-muck M1000 title.
So if we look at things from a totally objective and neutral perspective, the only thing we can conclude is that all the Olympics have been rubbish non-events with the exception of 2012 and 2016 when they were more important than a CYGS.
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R. Schweikart
Professional
You won't find even one player who would prefer a ATP/WTA Tour Final title over an Olympic Gold.
This poll's results are further proof how much detached some posters here are from real top tennis players and what makes them tick.
Many fans know all the Olympic gold winners from 1988 on.
But who won the ATP/WTA Tour Finals last year? Or the year before? Or in 2005? In 1991?
This poll's results are further proof how much detached some posters here are from real top tennis players and what makes them tick.
Many fans know all the Olympic gold winners from 1988 on.
But who won the ATP/WTA Tour Finals last year? Or the year before? Or in 2005? In 1991?
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