"There are no ideal endings."
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weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Not really. It would have been had he announced his retirement prior to winning. With that being said I also take exception to this idea, some people do have perfect endings. Jordan had a perfect one in Utah, then ruined it by coming back. Other legends have retired on top (championship + still high level), Michael Strahan for example. But I cut Rafa some slack and recognize that we don't need to take him too literally here.
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Djokovic had the ideal Olympic ending.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
That's like saying Kobe had the ideal NBA Finals ending lol
inflation_era
Professional
Bolt ideal?
djokovic the conqueror
Professional
Unlike Fedal, Djokovic will have the ideal ending when he retires from tennis.
He's taken care of his body to make sure he doesn't have any long term injuries post retirement.
He's taken care of his body to make sure he doesn't have any long term injuries post retirement.
I don't get it what you mean with Jordan "ruined" it. It's always better if there's nothing to regret, and a so-called "failed" comeback proves that.
Just like it's good that Federer lost his last set 6-0. Another way to show there's nothing to regret. The only way that made it easy to accept that his time has REALLY come, and the only way a legend can show respect to the history of his sport: If every record is a genuine one to target, because it's a REAL target, and not a flawed one by a premature retirement.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
American movies are better than Japanese anime and manga. Nothing wrong with good feelings after movie ends.Damn. Harsh shot at American movies.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
I'm sure you understand what I mean. There is nothing positive that came from the Wizards years, especially now that LeBron is showing how much greater he is at 40.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
An ideal ending for a superhero is what ? Death?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
#RockyTheGOAT
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Put Jordan with the medical advances that LJ enjoys and the story would be totally different.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
But it was the ideal ending for Djokovic (at least for this season) as he finally claimed the 1 big title that had eluded him.
The Guru
Legend
No that never happened
Rafa24
Hall of Fame
lebron on juice.
Rafa24
Hall of Fame
medical advances aka steroids. olympics tested Curry, Durant and Anthony edwards after the gold and not leBalco. It's amazing to me how the media swept lebrons connection to the steroid clinic in miami under the rug. But he runs ESPN and owns a lot of media.Put Jordan with the medical advances that LJ enjoys and the story would be totally different.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
The positive thing from MJ’s wizardry is that it cracked open the door for LeBron to create a debate. Credit LeBron for seizing the opportunity to show the world what Jordan left on the table.
Cabeza del Demonio
Professional
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Bro, just left the internet for today.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
As long as you don't watch the post-credits scene of him hitting the snooze button instead of getting up to train again for 2003.
RaulRamirez
Legend
It's very hard to script things, and not retire too soon or too late.
As Roger indicated, while he didn't go out winning, he otherwise went out on his terms.
If I recall correctly, John Elway retired after two straight Super Bowl wins, his only two of an amazing career.
But they are two of few exceptions.
As Roger indicated, while he didn't go out winning, he otherwise went out on his terms.
If I recall correctly, John Elway retired after two straight Super Bowl wins, his only two of an amazing career.
But they are two of few exceptions.
gamelovergold
Semi-Pro
His ending was winning FO in 2022 and retire .But when you win you think you have still more to win. When you loose in round 1 and round 2 you know time has come . It is basic human nature .
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Reminiscent of that one Federer tweet after he retired
It's his own fault for convincing the ATP to make that silly exho count in the official records.
I enjoy it to an extent, but it truly carries no more weight than an exhibition.
gamelovergold
Semi-Pro
Surely before alcaraz and now sinner there were no player who was fighting on equal terms with big 3. Novak won 12 slams after turning 30. Nadal won 8 slams and fedrer who turned 30 way back in 2011 managed to get 4 slams and whole generation of players who start playing professionaly from 2003 to 2023 hadnt done any justice .
RSJfan
Hall of Fame
I was at the 2002 final. It was a nice moment. But as others have pointed out it wasn’t a hard ending. There was no announcement of any kind that it was the end nor any ceremony. Just a regular trophy ceremony. Nothing cinematic about it. He was subsequently in an uncertain state for almost a year until he formally ended his career. They had a ceremony acknowledging his retirement at the 2003 USO.
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Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
That's why they would have required a concerted effort. It didn't pan out that way. C'est la vie.
gamelovergold
Semi-Pro
3 players won 66 slams and rest of players (except murray and stan who won both won 3 slams) failed . No matter how great roger or rafa or novak was other players were not upto the mark.
NattyGut
Professional
more like a happy ending where he didn't tip after massage long time
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
But they were not up to the mark, in large part because Roger/Rafa/Novak were great. Although injuries also derailed a lot of careers around that time.
It's unfortunate that Delpo/Thiem/Murray/Raonic all had pretty substantial injuries. I think all three would be a little less cozy if these guys had been around in full force. But it's not their fault.
Tennfan123
Legend
Sampras and Graf enter the chat,
The benchmarks of byes.
The benchmarks of byes.
Cabeza del Demonio
Professional
Might be an exhibition, but it's still been such a great addition to the game. Where else could you get Federer joined in his retirement ceremony with Nadal playing alongside him, and Djokovic and Murray hyping them up from their corner?
NAS
Hall of Fame
I have already commented, atleast Big three can never have ideal ending as they were always dedicated to play more.
For Rafa 2022 was ideal ending, ending year end Ranking of no 2 at age of 36 with two slam but he wanted more.
Same with Djokovic he won three slam in 2023 and yec also, later won Olympics gold, now think if he has retired at Olympics after winning gold, it could have been his ideal ending but again he want more...
Wanting to play more or win more in late 30 is double edge sword
For Rafa 2022 was ideal ending, ending year end Ranking of no 2 at age of 36 with two slam but he wanted more.
Same with Djokovic he won three slam in 2023 and yec also, later won Olympics gold, now think if he has retired at Olympics after winning gold, it could have been his ideal ending but again he want more...
Wanting to play more or win more in late 30 is double edge sword
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
BlueB
Legend
Anything is better than Anime. It doesn't even end.
GloW
Professional
JoshDragon
Hall of Fame
What? Like in the movie Gladiator?
JoshDragon
Hall of Fame
What if Nadal wakes up after winning his 14th French Open, only to find that the whole thing had been a dream?
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