There can be only the Big 3...2.....1?

Spencer Gore

Hall of Fame
Will next year see Djokovic and Nadal pull away to be joint slam leaders on 21 slams, becoming the Big 2?

Then will Djokovic pull away to win his 22nd slam, becoming the Big One?

I have to admit, this is becoming more and more like the movie Highlander.
There can be only one!
And at this minute I can't see anyone stopping Djokovic from becoming Christopher Lambert.
 

goldengate14

Professional
Will next year see Djokovic and Nadal pull away to be joint slam leaders on 21 slams, becoming the Big 2?

Then will Djokovic pull away to win his 22nd slam, becoming the Big One?

I have to admit, this is becoming more and more like the movie Highlander.
There can be only one!
And at this minute I can't see anyone stopping Djokovic from becoming Christopher Lambert.
Have s better idea tomorrow. Djokovic cannot afford to lose to either Zverev or Medvedev really as they would be in his head probably.
Nadal probably wins FO. Djokovic if he wins Paris probably wins AO. If he loses tomorrow AO could be quite open as will USO be.
Cannot believe though they are still favourotes for all majors lol.
 
Have s better idea tomorrow. Djokovic cannot afford to lose to either Zverev or Medvedev really as they would be in his head probably.
Nadal probably wins FO. Djokovic if he wins Paris probably wins AO. If he loses tomorrow AO could be quite open as will USO be.
Cannot believe though they are still favourotes for all majors lol.
Djokovic's mission in Paris this week is already accomplished. 7th YE #1 baby. :love: Woohoo...:cool: Title would be nice, but honestly is of secondary importance right now. ;)
 

goldengate14

Professional
Djokovic's mission in Paris this week accomplished. 7th YE #1 baby. Woohoo... Title would be nice, but honestly is of secondary importance really. ;)
Djokovic had the Ye1 sewn up months ago in real terms. He is in paris to win the event now especially given who he will face in the final.
I actually thought he would pull out of Paris but he just loves tennis. Great guy.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Djokovic had the Ye1 sewn up months ago in real terms. He is in paris to win the event now especially given who he will face in the final.
I actually thought he would pull out of Paris but he just loves tennis. Great guy.
Yeah, just GOAT player doing GOAT stuff. :)
 

Spencer Gore

Hall of Fame
Djokovic's mission in Paris this week is already accomplished. 7th YE #1 baby. :love: Woohoo...:cool: Title would be nice, but honestly is of secondary importance right now. ;)
It is truly a remarkable accomplishment. Djokovic and Nadal are obviously now clear of Federer due to the Masters 1000 titles plus slams plus H2H but even if Novak sneaks ahead with another Masters 1000 title, Nadal could theoretically edge back ahead next season if Novak stumbles at the AO and Rafa regains his French crown. Still a lot of tennis to be played!
 

goldengate14

Professional
It is truly a remarkable accomplishment. Djokovic and Nadal are obviously now clear of Federer due to the Masters 1000 titles plus slams plus H2H but even if Novak sneaks ahead with another Masters 1000 title, Nadal could theoretically edge back ahead next season if Novak stumbles at the AO and Rafa regains his French crown. Still a lot of tennis to be played!
Federer does not get a single m1000 on grass.
Federer is still widely regarded as Goat amongst sport fans. Piers Morgan a couple of weeks ago had only Federer in top 10 sports persons of all time .
 

goldengate14

Professional
I think Djoker has already broken away from the pack. They may be tied at 20 a piece but Djoker has all the other records now
Golden Slam keeps Nadal on top currently. Simple way to determine that would be ask any professional sportsperson would they want 20 majors and no og or 20 plus OG.
djokovic is the most consistent.
However whoever wins slam race will be goat.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
It is truly a remarkable accomplishment. Djokovic and Nadal are obviously now clear of Federer due to the Masters 1000 titles plus slams plus H2H but even if Novak sneaks ahead with another Masters 1000 title, Nadal could theoretically edge back ahead next season if Novak stumbles at the AO and Rafa regains his French crown. Still a lot of tennis to be played!
Imo, another RG title would not place Rafa above Fed at 2nd place in GOAT race. Another AO title would.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Federer does not get a single m1000 on grass.
Federer is still widely regarded as Goat amongst sport fans. Piers Morgan a couple of weeks ago had only Federer in top 10 sports persons of all time .
It's a shame Fed never was good enough on clay+hc to match Rafa and Novak.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Golden Slam keeps Nadal on top currently. Simple way to determine that would be ask any professional sportsperson would they want 20 majors and no og or 20 plus OG.
djokovic is the most consistent.
However whoever wins slam race will be goat.
It doesn't work that way, but good effort.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Not very neutral really are you. Federer was way past his best and beat peak Djokovic on 2011. A match of historic importance.
Neutrally, the guy that wins less on clay is greater than the guy that wins more on clay. Novak beat Rafa at RG2021, a match of historic importance. Clay Novak > Clay Rafa. Case closed.
 

goldengate14

Professional
Neutrally, the guy that wins less on clay is greater than the guy that wins more on clay. Novak beat Rafa at RG2021, a match of historic importance. Clay Novak > Clay Rafa. Case closed.
A) nadal was on one leg
B) the h2h is 7-2 not 1-1
C) 2022 is for all the marbles.
 

goldengate14

Professional
GS record, BOATness record, Big Titles record, no1 record and Completeness record. That's what matters. Keep laughing, bud.
Lol. Every thing mentioned there is made up serbian records of little relevance to the sporting world as nobody would have a clue what any of those are lol.
Big titles Federer has anyway. 100 plus big ptofessional titles.
 

goldengate14

Professional
A) Clay Novak > Clay Rafa
B) 1-1 Fed clearly > Novak
C) 2022 may be for all the marbles, but Rafa is far behind Novak, unless Rafa wins AO2022.
Just cannot stop laughing. The mental gymanstics and goal.post moving above is brilliant.
Try and look at the positives. Djokovic has an equal chance to be Gost as Fedal in 2022. Embrace the challenge.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Lol. Every thing mentioned there is made up serbian records of little relevance to the sporting world as nobody would have a clue what any of those are lol.
Big titles Federer has anyway. 100 plus big ptofessional titles.
Grand Slam record (titles count, cyGS, ncyGS, CGS) is most important.
Big titles record (GS, YEC, M1000) is very relevant. Even OG medals are relevant.
BOATness is highest domination level achieved. Extremely important.
Completeness record - the more different big titles you win, the greater player you are. In any sport and in tennis especially.
 

goldengate14

Professional
Grand Slam record (titles count, cyGS, ncyGS, CGS) is most important.
Big titles record (GS, YEC, M1000) is very relevant. Even OG medals are relevant.
BOATness is highest domination level achieved. Extremely important.
Completeness record - the more different big titles you win, the greater player you are. In any sport and in tennis especially.
Nadal has GS record.as does afederer and Djokovic. No idea what boatness is.
nadal has the Olympic gold. Herefore his resume is most complete in terms of what he pros value the most.
but 2022 willndecide everything. Not even a dispute.
 

Rosstour

Legend
Nadal in Paris and NY and possibly Medvedev in Melbourne and if fit Federer at W.
With what we saw of Rafa this year, do you really think he can beat Novak in Paris and NY?

By the time US Open rolls around it will be three years since he won it.

And Fed...if you just dropped him in the Wimbledon Final vs Djok, maybe he could take it. But I can't see him getting through to the Final without stumbling to a younger, fitter player.

Djok is the only player who can still break these younger guys down and make them look bad. But after the US Open beatdown from Med, even that is in doubt.
 

goldengate14

Professional
With what we saw of Rafa this year, do you really think he can beat Novak in Paris and NY?

By the time US Open rolls around it will be three years since he won it.

And Fed...if you just dropped him in the Wimbledon Final vs Djok, maybe he could take it. But I can't see him getting through to the Final without stumbling to a younger, fitter player.

Djok is the only player who can still break these younger guys down and make them look bad. But after the US Open beatdown from Med, even that is in doubt.
Nadal has bougt himself another 2 years due to his lack of playing time these past 3 years. Given how imconsistent the next gen are incan see Nadal winmig FO easily and maybe the Uso. Federer made Qf at wimbledon not even half fit. If he gets fit ibcan see him winnig wimbledon as he isnthe onlybreal natural on grass. As for Medvedev i just feel AO is somewhere he feels very comfprtsble.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Nadal has GS record.as does afederer and Djokovic. No idea what boatness is.
nadal has the Olympic gold. Herefore his resume is most complete in terms of what he pros value the most.
but 2022 willndecide everything. Not even a dispute.
BOATness is highest domination level achieved. Peak domination. Highest level. Top gameplay. Laver was BOAT. Fed was BOAT. Novak is BOAT.

Novak has better GS record than Rafa and Fed. GS title count is a part of GS record. Achieving cyGS, ncyGS and CGS are other important parts of GS record. Consecutive GS match wins are part of GS record.
 

Rosstour

Legend
Nadal has bougt himself another 2 years due to his lack of playing time these past 3 years. Given how imconsistent the next gen are incan see Nadal winmig FO easily and maybe the Uso. Federer made Qf at wimbledon not even half fit. If he gets fit ibcan see him winnig wimbledon as he isnthe onlybreal natural on grass. As for Medvedev i just feel AO is somewhere he feels very comfprtsble.
I hope you are right but I have to be realistic at this point.

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