There have been way more 1HBH than 2HBH champions of the French Open

[BreakPoint]

In the Open Era:

One-Handed Backhand Champions:

1. Ken Rosewall
2. Rod Laver
3. Jan Kodes
4. Andres Gimeno
5. Ilie Nastase
6. Adriano Panatta
7. Guillermo Vilas
8. Yannick Noah
9. Ivan Lendl
10. Andres Gomez
11. Thomas Muster
12. Gustavo Kuerten
13. Albert Costa
14. Gaston Gaudio
15. Roger Federer
16. Stan Wawrinka


Two-Handed Backhand Champions:

1. Bjorn Borg
2. Mats Wilander
3. Michael Chang
4. Jim Courier
5. Sergi Bruguera
6. Yevgeny Kafelnikov
7. Carlos Moya
8. Andre Agassi
9. Juan Carlos Ferrero
10. Rafael Nadal

 

[Tenez101]

What about if we count wins with multiplicity?

 

[Bud]

Look at the date of your first entry for 2HBH wins. Borg - who used a hybrid BH was in that first wave of players using two hands on the BH side - starting in the mid 1970's.

Start in the mid 1970's and move forward counting the total wins of each.

 

[BreakPoint]

Look at the date of your first entry for 2HBH wins. Borg - who used a hybrid BH was in that first wave of players using two hands on the BH side - starting in the mid 1970's.

There were only 6 French Opens before Borg won it in 1974. There were 2HBH players before Borg, but they didn't win the FO.

 

[Bud]

There were only 6 French Opens before Borg won it in 1974. There were 2HBH players before Borg, but they didn't win the FO.

What was the ratio of players at the FO using 2HBH v. 1HBH from 1968 onward?

What were the total wins for each BH?

 

[bullfan]

There were only 6 French Opens before Borg won it in 1974. There were 2HBH players before Borg, but they didn't win the FO.

Since the advent of the 2 handed backhand, whats the differential, and is there a trend for 1 hbh to be more dominant. Or is it a 1 off?

 

[BreakPoint]

What was the ratio of players at the FO using 2HBH v. 1HBH from 1968 onward?

What were the total wins for each BH?

Way more 2HBH players than 1HBH players in 1995, 1997, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2009, and 2015, but guess who won?

 

[Bud]

Way more 2HBH players than 1HBH players in 1995, 1997, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2009, and 2015, but guess who won?

So, what were the total wins of each BH? You keep avoiding the question :lol:

 

[spirit95]

If Nadal wasn't the clay GOAT a few more 2hbhers would probably have won it in the past decade.

 

[thomasferrett]

If Nadal wasn't the clay GOAT a few more 2hbhers would probably have won it in the past decade.

Errr, no, I think Federer would have won most of them if Nadal didn't.

 

[Shangri La]

So, what were the total wins of each BH? You keep avoiding the question :lol:

Anybody can answer the question?

 

[Flash O'Groove]

Anybody can answer the question?

By my counts it's 27 2HB vs 20 2HB.

5 2HB players have won RG more than once (Borg, Nadal, Courier, Bruguera, Wilander). Only 3 1HB have won RG more than once (Kodes, Lendl, Kuerten).

 

[Steve0904]

Anybody can answer the question?

Yes, as Flash says I believe it's 27.

Nadal (9) Borg (6) (Wilander (3) Courier (2) Bruguera (2) Chang, Kafelnikov, Moya, Agassi, Ferrero (1 each).

 

[BreakPoint]

Considering that the vast majority of pros have had 2HBH's over at least the past 30 years, why haven't there been way, way, way more 2HBH French Open champions?

 

[President]

Considering that the vast majority of pros have had 2HBH's over at least the past 30 years, why haven't there been way, way, way more 2HBH French Open champions?

The one handed backhand has more topspin and more power, both of which are very good attributes to have on clay. The downside is that it is worse at taking the ball on the rise and worse at the return of serve, both aspects which a clay court mitigates.

 

[BreakPoint]

The one handed backhand has more topspin and more power, both of which are very good attributes to have on clay. The downside is that it is worse at taking the ball on the rise and worse at the return of serve, both aspects which a clay court mitigates.

But how about the high bounces and the bad bounces? Aren't both of those harder for 1HBH players? It's harder to hit balls shoulder high with a 1HBH and the more precise timing required to hit a 1HBH means bad bounces should be harder to handle than with a 2HBH?

 

[President]

But how about the high bounces and the bad bounces? Aren't both of those harder for 1HBH players? It's harder to hit balls shoulder high with a 1HBH and the more precise timing required to hit a 1HBH means bad bounces should be harder to handle than with a 2HBH?

Most players stand further back on clay, which helps to mitigate the effects of a bad bounce by giving more time to react (as well as take a full blooded swing at the ball).

 

[Rock Strongo]

1HBH players win RG more often, but 2HBH players win more titles at RG. OP is a moot point.

 

[Rock Strongo]

I wonder when this thread will turn into ego-massaging.