There is no better racquet then the Wilson RF 97a, won't you agree?

Fintft

Legend
Maybe it's a miss-understanding, but the goal isn't to "handle" it, the goal is to use the weight as a weapon and enhancer of your play. If you aren't using the weight to destroy people with a one-handed backhand or perhaps deadly volleys, why not opt for some maneuverability, it would probably help people's game more to have a maneuverable stick instead of the king of heft.
Exactly, my 1HBH has never been stronger and it's fun to see it go thru people's FHs...

You the instructor?
 

Fintft

Legend
It’s a badas- racquet for sure. It’s just too heavy for players over 47 who aren’t in peak physical condition and/or don’t play at least 3-4 times per week. I used it around 2015 for about a 9-10 months or so and could literally blow people off the court for about a set and a half in moderate weather. But I played singles 18+ state in Baton Rouge LA in July and I was done after about a set. Of course I was 46, playing against a 23yo.
Yes, I heard this also from a 23 old pro who tried Challengers and he usually prefers lighter racquets in matches...

I try to play at least 4 times per week myself.

Cheers!
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
Can't even find them on sale anywhere, not even on this forum.

I own 3, 2 black, one Tuxedo, but I would like more (around $100)...

The 1H BH is monster with this racquet, never felt better!

And strung with full bed natural gut is a joyfull weapon to beat people with FHs!
Precise as well.
You must have not played a leaded up 2013 APD with puddy in the handle.
 

Fintft

Legend
You must have not played a leaded up 2013 APD with puddy in the handle.
I did play with the APD for a couple of years, not leaded though, true it had tons of power, but not enough control. Switched to Wilson Kfactor and BLX 6.1 95. Kinda prefer even Djokovic's (older) racquet Head Graphene MP Speed 100 to the APD.
 
I understand, I do have a 1 handed backhand and tried the RF for awhile, just didn't think it helped that much, despite being 6'4" and pretty fit relative to the average rec player. Fun stick though. (settled on the Yonex 97 pro 330, probably move to the pure strike if it is good in august.)
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
Don’t like the weight and balance. The Blade works better as an all around stick with access to more customization.


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nick102potter

New User
RF97a is definitely an awesome racket. Had fun with hitting groundstrokes and volleys using the racket as there's so much plow through. Sadly, my serve suffers as it's too heavy for me and hurts my shoulder if I use it for too long. For me, I prefer Vcore 98 compared to RF97a.
 

Frans Bleker

Professional
There are more rackets that you can weigh up to the RF 97 category, and the will play as good imo. The weight does the trick.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
RF 97A is just too stiff of a racquet when you string it with full poly setup. I started experiencing tennis elbow using this racquet due to the stiffness. Once I switched back to my 2015 Blade weighted to 12 oz, all was good.
Kudos to those that can handle this racquet but most won't admit that it is beyond their ability and will keep using it even if they actually play better with another racquet.

It is a beast of a racquet similar to the KPS 88 which was such a great racquet as well but just too demanding to use.
 

Rally

Semi-Pro
I havent been able to play very much in the past few months and I got out for the first time in over 3 weeks last night. I forgot how easy the RF97 can be to flatten out balls with this stick. I really struggled to adjust to the RF97 after using the PS90 for 3 years, but now the RF is starting to feel more natural. Still trying to get the drop shot down, but the easy power is so nice against heavy hitters when I'm on the run. I don't have to hit the ball perfectly to dig myself out of a hole.

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Lukhas

Legend
It worked for me in one setup: when it came with 4G. It was 370g with the overgrip, but swung really well. I gotta measure the specs again. Otherwise it could have a bit less twistweight, and less weight at the top of the handle.
 

Rally

Semi-Pro
It worked for me in one setup: when it came with 4G. It was 370g with the overgrip, but swung really well. I gotta measure the specs again. Otherwise it could have a bit less twistweight, and less weight at the top of the handle.
What tension do you use? From everything I've heard about 4G, I assume it's an arm killer in the RF97 at tensions above 52ish pounds.

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Lukhas

Legend
What tension do you use? From everything I've heard about 4G, I assume it's an arm killer in the RF97 at tensions above 52ish pounds.

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I'm not using 4G; it came with 4G. :p When I strung it with a more reasonable string, yes the weight got cut significantly, but it felt like the racquet was turning above the handle, with the sweetspot in the lower hoop. I think that's what it feels like when the MGR/I is too high. It played well with 4G, it has very good snapback and control and it swung well; which is why I should've noted the specs to try to replicate it with lead tape. I think it was strung in the middle of the tension range if what I know about TWE is correct, so 25.5kg/55lbs. I'm not too sensitive about comfort, but a racquet that's over 13oz/370g strung is so heavy that it absorbs vibrations really well. A racquet that heavy allows you to get away with a lot more string setups that you could consider too stiff with lighter racquets.

OTOH, a 6.1 95 18x20 (still sold here at TWE!) is specced like a RF97 but without the overgrip. The beam felt thinner when I tried it, the twist-weight a bit lower. It still has quite a bit of weight at the top of the handle; the balance is a bit too HL. I remember trying the RF97A with a synthetic grip... it didn't work at all for me!
 
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zaskar1

Semi-Pro
i liked the PS97RF, but it was too headlight, and when i put leadtape on it to change the balance
to my liking
i couldnt swing the racquet for a whole match. i use the PS97 with 15gm leadtape in the hoop
works good for me
z
 

SlvrDragon50

Semi-Pro
RF97a is definitely an awesome racket. Had fun with hitting groundstrokes and volleys using the racket as there's so much plow through. Sadly, my serve suffers as it's too heavy for me and hurts my shoulder if I use it for too long. For me, I prefer Vcore 98 compared to RF97a.
I think I am going to try the VC98 or VCP97. Not too sure yet though.

I really love the RF97 for groundstrokes, but I find I am too slow on volleys with them if it's returned quickly to me. Yea I know, don't hit it to them, but I don't quite have all my control back yet :p My serve is actually great, I think I am getting a lot more power, but I am more mindful of my shoulder with the racquet.
 

TennisCJC

Legend
rf97a is a very solid racket but not my personal fav. I like some mass but it is a bit on the heavy side for me. feel is good but not my favorite either.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
This is my preferred racket of choice and I found that the only modifications I needed were to add a Fairway leather grip and about 3 grams to the handle to make the balance a bit more headlight. Other than that, this racket plays fabulous at around 360 grams.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
There are more rackets that you can weigh up to the RF 97 category, and the will play as good imo. The weight does the trick.
This post makes no sense. Why go through the trouble of buying a lighter racket and weighting it up only for it to play as good as the RF97 Autograph? Why waste the time and money?
 

nvr2old

Professional
This post makes no sense. Why go through the trouble of buying a lighter racket and weighting it up only for it to play as good as the RF97 Autograph? Why waste the time and money?
I have 2 RF's and 2 PS. Love the RF honestly but it does get a bit, or is a bit too much weight depending on how I feel that day. I weight up my PS to about 12.2 oz vs 12.7 for the RF to use on the days I'm not quite able to use the RF. I don't try to make the PS a RF as you stated, why waste time doing that, but as others stated you can adjust the weight and balance a little to your liking and still have the feel of a box beam, foam filled RF-like response.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
I have 2 RF's and 2 PS. Love the RF honestly but it does get a bit, or is a bit too much weight depending on how I feel that day. I weight up my PS to about 12.2 oz vs 12.7 for the RF to use on the days I'm not quite able to use the RF. I don't try to make the PS a RF as you stated, why waste time doing that, but as others stated you can adjust the weight and balance a little to your liking and still have the feel of a box beam, foam filled RF-like response.
I guess since I only play with the RF97, I never experience that feeling of it being too heavy. And actually, before I switched to the RF97, I used to use Volkl PB 10 Mids that I had weighted a few grams heavier than my 97 lol. My PB 10's were somewhere around 363-366 grams. You are correct though, you could modify a lighter racket much more than you can a heavy one like the RF97. That is one thing that I think sucks for those that don't like it, is that with it's stock weight, there's not much room to tinker around with the balance and adding weight. For me, it's a perfect setup, so I find it easy enough to just slap 3 grams on the pallet, wrap a Fairway and an overgrip over it and it's good to go.
 

Frans Bleker

Professional
I guess, but I mean if the end result is a racket that only plays as well as the 97, then it seems like a futile effort, but to each their own.

Every racket company has qc issues. That's just a fact of life.
Let me rephrase; better suited to your personal preference’s. The rf97 gets portrayed as being superior while its the weight setup that does most of the work, something which can be done on every frame and thus, I believe stating that the RF 97 is superior to other rackets makes no sense.
 

nvr2old

Professional
I guess since I only play with the RF97, I never experience that feeling of it being too heavy. And actually, before I switched to the RF97, I used to use Volkl PB 10 Mids that I had weighted a few grams heavier than my 97 lol. My PB 10's were somewhere around 363-366 grams. You are correct though, you could modify a lighter racket much more than you can a heavy one like the RF97. That is one thing that I think sucks for those that don't like it, is that with it's stock weight, there's not much room to tinker around with the balance and adding weight. For me, it's a perfect setup, so I find it easy enough to just slap 3 grams on the pallet, wrap a Fairway and an overgrip over it and it's good to go.
Ha yup. Oh to be young and fit! Age takes its toll. Enjoy!
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I guess since I only play with the RF97, I never experience that feeling of it being too heavy. And actually, before I switched to the RF97, I used to use Volkl PB 10 Mids that I had weighted a few grams heavier than my 97 lol. My PB 10's were somewhere around 363-366 grams. You are correct though, you could modify a lighter racket much more than you can a heavy one like the RF97. That is one thing that I think sucks for those that don't like it, is that with it's stock weight, there's not much room to tinker around with the balance and adding weight. For me, it's a perfect setup, so I find it easy enough to just slap 3 grams on the pallet, wrap a Fairway and an overgrip over it and it's good to go.
Roger... is that you...? ;):D

It's been a while since you had a Volkl PB10 in your hands though ;)
 
The RF97A is just sublime with Wilson Champion Choice, but that's $40 a month plus stringing fees. My only issue with the 97A is that is has so much plow, I would get lazy and bunt a lot of balls back rather than taking a full swing.
 

Dondon

Semi-Pro
Yes, I heard this also from a 23 old pro who tried Challengers and he usually prefers lighter racquets in matches...

I try to play at least 4 times per week myself.

Cheers!
The RF97A is just sublime with Wilson Champion Choice, but that's $40 a month plus stringing fees. My only issue with the 97A is that is has so much plow, I would get lazy and bunt a lot of balls back rather than taking a full swing.
It's too powerful on weak players
Need to be soft
Slice block is always a good winner when they expect a full stroke
 

iceman_dl6

Semi-Pro
The RF97A is just sublime with Wilson Champion Choice, but that's $40 a month plus stringing fees. My only issue with the 97A is that is has so much plow, I would get lazy and bunt a lot of balls back rather than taking a full swing.
So true! I’m currently testing the Head Gravity Pro (lighter racquet vs the Wilson) and realized I have to make the full motion for my slice backhand vs the RF97A.

Back to the topic, I have been using the RF97A for about 3 years now, such a awesome racquet indeed! However, I have tested the Yonex SV95 and the Prince PP100P for a lighter and softer alternative but keep coming back to my RF97A! Currently testing the Head Gravity Pro (mine has stock 12.0 oz and SW of 344 but feels so much more maneuverable and softer than the Wilson) will to see if it has the same benefits as the RF97A! So far, there is an adjustment period, but I just started though.

If there are any RF97A users that have tested the Head Gravity Pro, I would like to have your comments!
 

guardian2002

New User
I guess since I only play with the RF97, I never experience that feeling of it being too heavy. And actually, before I switched to the RF97, I used to use Volkl PB 10 Mids that I had weighted a few grams heavier than my 97 lol. My PB 10's were somewhere around 363-366 grams. You are correct though, you could modify a lighter racket much more than you can a heavy one like the RF97. That is one thing that I think sucks for those that don't like it, is that with it's stock weight, there's not much room to tinker around with the balance and adding weight. For me, it's a perfect setup, so I find it easy enough to just slap 3 grams on the pallet, wrap a Fairway and an overgrip over it and it's good to go.
Let me put it a different way. I use the RF97 today. A few months ago I got it into my head that a PS97 would be a better fit given I am a middle-aged has been. Anyways, long story short, I ended up adding weight bit by bit over a couple of weeks to the PS97 where it was 327 grams unstrung before I felt entirely comfortable. Save for the added weight of the stock leather RF97, I was right back where I started. So I have gone back to the RF97 because it is what I am comfortable with and gives me the best combination of power, control and feel.
 
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